Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

I thought in the vanilla game that was Total Mobilization having a manpower nerf and women in the workforce actually resolved this issue. Elaborate on this further.
it raises the amount of civ factories needed for the public (literally the worst fucking thing ever, I would give up 3 mil or 5 doc before a single fucking civ factory)
 
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A bunch of shit from the snowflakes anonymous discoord channel

So the thing about Panzer is that he has always played off his shitty attitude and ego problems as his "sense of humor", acting like his constant bitching and talking down to other team members and constant desire to be better than everyone else is just him being "ironic, I'm only joking when I say that you're a fucking stupid retard". Even if that were true, it still comes off as awful to other people and genuinely hurts folks that thought that he respected them. Team members always talked about Panzer's attitude problems, and even Panzer admitted himself that his "sense of humor" was rude and shitty in a team announcement a while back, yet he said something along the lines of "I know I act like a cunt a lot, but I can't promise I can change that", which is basically saying he's not going to even try. He also admitted it in a reddit interview a year back, which you can see here.

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I feel as if Panzer hides his genuine disdain and hatred towards other people behind a veneer of irony, which eerily reminds me of members of a certain 4chan board. And again, if he really is joking around, the "haha im such a cunt fuck you faggot you'll never amount to anything you dumb fucking piece of cocksucking trash" personality is obnoxious as fuck.

Bonus: some more autistic self-fellatio.
 
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Some time ago, our favourite North Carolinian troon Pacifica (now lead developer for TNO) had a portrait made for the game: https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/agzfui/apparently_pacifica_has_a_portrait_in_game/
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One thing lead to another, and someone posted this unflattering photograph of him which not only bears a strong masculine skull shape, but a striking resemblance to the above picture:

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Despite the fact he already made a poorly redacted version to be posted on reddit, Pacifica went apeshit (despite the leak probably not even existing in the first place) and TNO redux was purged.

It seems much more likely that (assuming this wasn't cooked up entirely by him) this was used as an excuse to bully the TNO Redux developers into deleting their discord and ceasing work on their mod, something which appears to be in the process of backfiring.

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Is it me or does it resemble Freddie Mercery
 
So here's a question:
Are freakouts and drama storms common in modding communities?
Because I figured it'd be the pony modders who dissolve into madness and trooning out, not some random mod creator.
 
So here's a question:
Are freakouts and drama storms common in modding communities?
Because I figured it'd be the pony modders who dissolve into madness and trooning out, not some random mod creator.
yes freakouts and drama is hella common in modding communities especially in the hoi4 community i've been in the community for a while and i've witnessed hella drama
 
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yes freakouts and drama is hella common in modding communities especially in the hoi4 community i've been in the community for a while and i've witnessed hella drama
lol TNO devs have a history of starting BS in other mods Rule Britannia/Totp is a great example Mango, Calph and their merry band of monkys went through a fucking huge sperg out when someone tried to revive their mod they fucking lied and manipulated the truth to fucking ruin the people in the fan fork reputations this behavior in this community isn't surprising.
 
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I am covered in grease, need a burger and I am probably about to shit myself so I can't dwelve too deep into it but there seems to be trouble building up in the Ultimate Apocalypse mod for dawn of war soulstorm.
Lord Cylarne made a video addressing some allegations apparently.
So yes, modding comes with sperging.
Before that there was the whole Grorc Fiasco and his shitty mod.
 
Yeah HGO is owned by SkylarWeston, a pedo tranny. I'm making a long post about him later since he's probably the most interesting person in the community. What happened there is that Skylar promoted some creepy guy to mod, and then he got #MeToo-d to oblivion because someone started to accuse the mod of DMing her creepy shit. Someone made a Reddit post about it and it became one of the most upvoted posts in that subreddit with 1.2k upvotes.
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Yeah HGO is owned by SkylarWeston, a pedo tranny. I'm making a long post about him later since he's probably the most interesting person in the community. What happened there is that Skylar promoted some creepy guy to mod, and then he got #MeToo-d to oblivion because someone started to accuse the mod of DMing her creepy shit. Someone made a Reddit post about it and it became one of the most upvoted posts in that subreddit with 1.2k upvotes.
Pic is Skylar btw
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I used to have drama with this guy lol I have evidence of him admitting he got nudes from a minor.

I used to be apart of the TNO dev team, they put us on massive time crunches constantly.
 
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So I just remembered I had these, so I might as well dump them here to put more fuel on this dumpster fire
Awhile back, someone in a Hoi4 mod server (which Im going to keep ambiguous for their sake) somehow got ahold of and posted these 4 documents. What are they? They're the files which gives an outline for US content from 1972-1980, I'm going to offer a basic tldr for the basic mechanics and presidents below, but please feel free to pour over them at your leisure.

-The 70's will feature a Culture War gui mechanic which broadens the ability for the player to tackle social issues
-These issues include things such as gun control, abortion, immigration, homosexuality etc
-Party factions can adopt a stance on these issues into their official platform
-The mechanic can possibly effect attitudes in American society, making it easier for more extremist presidents to come into office

Party candidates for 1972
RD (D)-Robert McNamara: Basically a pro-interventionist conservative who seeks to enhance US military power while rolling back some provision of social security
RD (R)-George McGovern: The most "wholesome" according to the US team leader meaning he'll be the most boring, focuses on international de-escalation and detente along with other lib LARP
NPP (FR)-Jeane Kirkpatrick: Literal neoconservative and perhaps the most interesting of the 72 candidates, her whole gimmick is overthrowing regimes via the CIA mechanic while installing pro-US ones, economics revolve around exploiting these countries (get it cuz American imperialism le Vaush style) and promoting conservative values at home.
NPP (C)-Henry "Scoop" Jackson: Also a neocon but more socdem oriented, main thing is welfare, interventionism, and cucking the NPP's communists and Yockeyites, will possibly cause an American Vietnam in Venezuela
NPP (L)-Gus Hall: I don't think I need to elaborate much here tbh, he just slowly chips away at American institutions to create a communist state.
NPP (Y) Francis Parker Yockey: Same as Hall when it comes to chipping at the institutions only he wants to create his ideal western state or whatever, will also try and spread his values to other OFN members rather than leaving it outright.

1976 Candidates
RD (D)-Jimmy Carter: The RD equivalent of MCS as his mechanic revolves around uniting or breaking the party, will also try to get America to be energy independent and pursue a human rights oriented agenda in foreign policy, probably the most liberal leaning Democrat candidate overall
RD (R)-Jerry Brown: Not much is known about him in the document other than "Buddhist Economics", do with that what you will (perhaps the stupidest candidate pick as well imo, Nelson Rockefeller would've worked better here working as a right leaning Republican to contrast Carter, but what the fuck do I know)
NPP (FR)-Spiro Agnew: This is perhaps the most insulting candidate here. Angew's whole thing is, I shit you not, being the "American Farouk" meaning he'll be the most corrupt candidate out of any. His economics revolves around pro-business actions such as tax cuts and right to work laws, social policy is essentially same as otl with him utilizing conservative populist rhetoric to cement his party wing (even building up pro-NPP media outlets as well, my hunch is he's will help establish FOX news knowing these devs). His VP is also corrupt and braindead, meaning you'll have to whip him in line for blackmail him off the ticket before he does enough damage to get impeached, if blackmailed off Angew's new VP is John Connelly. Don't get me wrong, Agnew was fairly corrupt in our timeline, but MCS to Agnew makes no sense and the way its worded in the document makes it seem like they're purposely making him cartoonishly malicious.
NPP (C)-Maurine Neuberger: Imagine a progressive socdem like Bernie Sanders and make him a woman for the 76 candidacy, that's literally her whole thing
NPP (L)-Bill Epton: The "New Left" candidate, wants to radically transform (destroy) American society to make it more socialistic while screwing arounf with Germany and Japan
NPP (Y)-Matthias Kohl: This would be the most meme candidate if it weren't for the 80 NPPY candidate. Flirts with esoterism and paganism but main goal is make the Yockeyite faction a legitimate electoral party while cementing wignat and anti-Semitic ideas in society, foreign policy is him spreading his ideas to the OFN and beyond.

1980 Candidates
RD (D)-George HW Bush: Basically the same thing as in our timeline, IE disability rights/welfare, dentate, trade, military expansion, pretty inoffensive overall. Also works with Republicans to screw over the NPP
RD (R)-Birch Bayh: Typical Republican policy along with making it easier to vote plus doubling down on secularism, wants to make government more efficent.
NPP (FR)-Robert Byrd: I take it back, this might be more offensive than Agnew. Byrd is a "Neo-Segregationist" who seeks to gut the civil rights act, decrease federalization, taking away welfare from certain people, tax cuts, favoring the South, essentially Wallace's 64 tree if he goes all out on segregation and states rights. As a chance at "redemption" via a crisis tree where he realizes that he don goofed, making him reverse all the things he did prior then finishing my enacting MLK Day, and yeah this causes the NPP to collapse in on itself too btw. I don't get why the devs have it out to make Byrd some Klu Kluxing boogieman (as Wallace's defense secretary he's portrayed as that too with his description), but hey I guess its for le narrative and artistic expression with no possible bias here.
NPP (C)- Jessie Jackson: No info was provided other than "look as his campaign platform when he ran for president", so expect more civil rights and welfare stuff from him maybe.
NPP (L)-Angela Davis: No info was provided, but seeing how she was Marxist terrorist otl you can use your imagination.
NPP (Y)-William Luther Pierce: Here we fucking go, the one meme candidate to rule them all. Pierce's only goal is to bring about SIEJ on the American institutions and culture, not even bothering trying to be discrete by chipping away at the foundation or solidifying his wing as an electoral force but just by being a bull in a china shop. He leaves the OFN immediately meaning no foreign policy so you can enjoy his wild ride to the fullest. Except that you can't because Pierce will always be assassinated towards the end of his term, meaning that its a total trap path.


However, because I got these documents around a month ago and given everything that's gone down the contents of these might be in doubt. Specifically because Dread (who wrote the Yockeyite doc) and Victoria (who I'm assuming is Pacifica because literally who else would go that in depth on communism and US history) are gone indefinitely to my knowledge. Anyways, I'm not sure if you guys will enjoy this or not but I just found it interesting enough to spur some kind of discussion.
 

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So I just remembered I had these, so I might as well dump them here to put more fuel on this dumpster fire
Awhile back, someone in a Hoi4 mod server (which Im going to keep ambiguous for their sake) somehow got ahold of and posted these 4 documents. What are they? They're the files which gives an outline for US content from 1972-1980, I'm going to offer a basic tldr for the basic mechanics and presidents below, but please feel free to pour over them at your leisure.

-The 70's will feature a Culture War gui mechanic which broadens the ability for the player to tackle social issues
-These issues include things such as gun control, abortion, immigration, homosexuality etc
-Party factions can adopt a stance on these issues into their official platform
-The mechanic can possibly effect attitudes in American society, making it easier for more extremist presidents to come into office

Party candidates for 1972
RD (D)-Robert McNamara: Basically a pro-interventionist conservative who seeks to enhance US military power while rolling back some provision of social security
RD (R)-George McGovern: The most "wholesome" according to the US team leader meaning he'll be the most boring, focuses on international de-escalation and detente along with other lib LARP
NPP (FR)-Jeane Kirkpatrick: Literal neoconservative and perhaps the most interesting of the 72 candidates, her whole gimmick is overthrowing regimes via the CIA mechanic while installing pro-US ones, economics revolve around exploiting these countries (get it cuz American imperialism le Vaush style) and promoting conservative values at home.
NPP (C)-Henry "Scoop" Jackson: Also a neocon but more socdem oriented, main thing is welfare, interventionism, and cucking the NPP's communists and Yockeyites, will possibly cause an American Vietnam in Venezuela
NPP (L)-Gus Hall: I don't think I need to elaborate much here tbh, he just slowly chips away at American institutions to create a communist state.
NPP (Y) Francis Parker Yockey: Same as Hall when it comes to chipping at the institutions only he wants to create his ideal western state or whatever, will also try and spread his values to other OFN members rather than leaving it outright.

1976 Candidates
RD (D)-Jimmy Carter: The RD equivalent of MCS as his mechanic revolves around uniting or breaking the party, will also try to get America to be energy independent and pursue a human rights oriented agenda in foreign policy, probably the most liberal leaning Democrat candidate overall
RD (R)-Jerry Brown: Not much is known about him in the document other than "Buddhist Economics", do with that what you will (perhaps the stupidest candidate pick as well imo, Nelson Rockefeller would've worked better here working as a right leaning Republican to contrast Carter, but what the fuck do I know)
NPP (FR)-Spiro Agnew: This is perhaps the most insulting candidate here. Angew's whole thing is, I shit you not, being the "American Farouk" meaning he'll be the most corrupt candidate out of any. His economics revolves around pro-business actions such as tax cuts and right to work laws, social policy is essentially same as otl with him utilizing conservative populist rhetoric to cement his party wing (even building up pro-NPP media outlets as well, my hunch is he's will help establish FOX news knowing these devs). His VP is also corrupt and braindead, meaning you'll have to whip him in line for blackmail him off the ticket before he does enough damage to get impeached, if blackmailed off Angew's new VP is John Connelly. Don't get me wrong, Agnew was fairly corrupt in our timeline, but MCS to Agnew makes no sense and the way its worded in the document makes it seem like they're purposely making him cartoonishly malicious.
NPP (C)-Maurine Neuberger: Imagine a progressive socdem like Bernie Sanders and make him a woman for the 76 candidacy, that's literally her whole thing
NPP (L)-Bill Epton: The "New Left" candidate, wants to radically transform (destroy) American society to make it more socialistic while screwing arounf with Germany and Japan
NPP (Y)-Matthias Kohl: This would be the most meme candidate if it weren't for the 80 NPPY candidate. Flirts with esoterism and paganism but main goal is make the Yockeyite faction a legitimate electoral party while cementing wignat and anti-Semitic ideas in society, foreign policy is him spreading his ideas to the OFN and beyond.

1980 Candidates
RD (D)-George HW Bush: Basically the same thing as in our timeline, IE disability rights/welfare, dentate, trade, military expansion, pretty inoffensive overall. Also works with Republicans to screw over the NPP
RD (R)-Birch Bayh: Typical Republican policy along with making it easier to vote plus doubling down on secularism, wants to make government more efficent.
NPP (FR)-Robert Byrd: I take it back, this might be more offensive than Agnew. Byrd is a "Neo-Segregationist" who seeks to gut the civil rights act, decrease federalization, taking away welfare from certain people, tax cuts, favoring the South, essentially Wallace's 64 tree if he goes all out on segregation and states rights. As a chance at "redemption" via a crisis tree where he realizes that he don goofed, making him reverse all the things he did prior then finishing my enacting MLK Day, and yeah this causes the NPP to collapse in on itself too btw. I don't get why the devs have it out to make Byrd some Klu Kluxing boogieman (as Wallace's defense secretary he's portrayed as that too with his description), but hey I guess its for le narrative and artistic expression with no possible bias here.
NPP (C)- Jessie Jackson: No info was provided other than "look as his campaign platform when he ran for president", so expect more civil rights and welfare stuff from him maybe.
NPP (L)-Angela Davis: No info was provided, but seeing how she was Marxist terrorist otl you can use your imagination.
NPP (Y)-William Luther Pierce: Here we fucking go, the one meme candidate to rule them all. Pierce's only goal is to bring about SIEJ on the American institutions and culture, not even bothering trying to be discrete by chipping away at the foundation or solidifying his wing as an electoral force but just by being a bull in a china shop. He leaves the OFN immediately meaning no foreign policy so you can enjoy his wild ride to the fullest. Except that you can't because Pierce will always be assassinated towards the end of his term, meaning that its a total trap path.


However, because I got these documents around a month ago and given everything that's gone down the contents of these might be in doubt. Specifically because Dread (who wrote the Yockeyite doc) and Victoria (who I'm assuming is Pacifica because literally who else would go that in depth on communism and US history) are gone indefinitely to my knowledge. Anyways, I'm not sure if you guys will enjoy this or not but I just found it interesting enough to spur some kind of discussion.
It's always like this, they portray the Democrats (In TNO they are the Conservative party) as bad and the Republicans as slightly less bad, then the NPP-C as the wank liberal socialist bullshit.
I wish TNO Redux came in and fixed this retardation.
 

The last nail in the coffin?
MountainGeneral is pretty famous and respected in the TNO mod community, so I'd say that this is when the mainstream fans of the mod will know about all of the drama and autistic stuff that happens behind the curtains.
Expect this thread to get much more attention, probably from reddit users.


I just don't agree with the "He made Heydrich a good guy" argument, considering that Heydrich's campaign always ends with the world getting nuked or Europe becoming a lawless wasteland after Heydrich commits suicide because he regrets killing Himmler.

I'd even say that this mod is biased towards communists and far-left ideologies, considering that leaders like Sablin, Zhdanov, and Bukharina are portrayed as "blessed big chungus social-democracy", not only by the community, but by the developers themselves. Just compare the unification themes of any of the communist leaders and put them side-to-side to any of the fascist/ultranationalist leaders and you will notice a very different feel despite the fact that those regimes are in par with the communist dictators.

This is something that Kaiserreich suffers from as well, but in a smaller scale.
 
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MountainGeneral is pretty famous and respected in the TNO mod community, so I'd say that this is when the mainstream fans of the mod will know about all of the drama and autistic stuff that happens behind the curtains.
Expect this thread to get much more attention, probably from reddit users.


I just don't agree with the "He made Heydrich a good guy" argument, considering that Heydrich's campaign always ends with the world getting nuked or Europe becoming a lawless wasteland after Heydrich commits suicide because he regrets killing Himmler.

I'd even say that this mod is biased towards communists and far-left ideologies, considering that leaders like Sablin, Zhdanov, and Bukharina are portrayed as "blessed big chungus social-democracy", not only by the community, but by the developers themselves. Just compare the unification themes of any of the communist leaders and put them side-to-side to any of the fascist/ultranationalist leaders and you will notice a very different feel despite the fact that those regimes are in par with the communist dictators.

This is something that Kaiserreich suffers from as well, but in a smaller scale.
You also forgot about the fact that even if Himmler succeeds in his autistic plan, it will be in the long term a failure because the decendants of the people in the Bunkers will believe everyone that survived the nukes is Aryan regardless of phenotype, like he did not even made propaganda about the appearance of the Aryans?
 
So the thing about Panzer is that he has always played off his shitty attitude and ego problems as his "sense of humor", acting like his constant bitching and talking down to other team members and constant desire to be better than everyone else is just him being "ironic, I'm only joking when I say that you're a fucking stupid retard". Even if that were true, it still comes off as awful to other people and genuinely hurts folks that thought that he respected them. Team members always talked about Panzer's attitude problems, and even Panzer admitted himself that his "sense of humor" was rude and shitty in a team announcement a while back, yet he said something along the lines of "I know I act like a cunt a lot, but I can't promise I can change that", which is basically saying he's not going to even try. He also admitted it in a reddit interview a year back, which you can see here.

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I feel as if Panzer hides his genuine disdain and hatred towards other people behind a veneer of irony, which eerily reminds me of members of a certain 4chan board. And again, if he really is joking around, the "haha im such a cunt fuck you faggot you'll never amount to anything you dumb fucking piece of cocksucking trash" personality is obnoxious as fuck.

Bonus: some more autistic self-fellatio.
No wonder the team is currently the way it is then. Certain types of folks attract/play off each other and the Discord has that in spades. Everyone is a self-admitted wreck in some way (which would be sad, but my sympathy ends when you go "boohoo my life sucks reassure me" to the same minors you're being creepy with.)
 
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