Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

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RX-78NT-1 Alex Gundam said:
The whole idea of the nazis winning World War 2 is a /pol/ wet dream. And yet it was SJWs who made the mod and took it so seriously. Just get /pol/ to come up with the most triggering and bizzare nightmare scenarios and super-events. And then balance it properly. It'll be more popular than the main mod for sure.
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Leftists and globohomos have this thing about fagging on about how evil Nazism was and how close the world came to being dominated by them, but then downplaying how effective they were. You see that on all the History, Inc. channels on YouTube. If the Nazis were so incompetent and ineffective, then were they really that big a threat to the world? They like to have it both ways. That's why mods like TNO like to tell you how close the Nazis were to world domination, yet go on about how fragile they supposedly were by imploding into non-sensical civil wars.

Given the degeneracy that seems to be a defining characteristic of Lefties of all stripes, I'm guessing their fascination with Nazis stems from a bizarre BDSM fetish fueled by self-loathing. You sometimes hear these guys openly fantasizing about being raped and dominated by Nazis. Like everything these guys do, it's an extension of their fetishes.
atlanticnoobowner said:
ironically trannies with no test are probably more likely to commit violence (including to themselves) than the normal test filled man
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More true than you would realize. I know a tranny like that who says he's big into violence, but would never get into actual activism that would get him hurt. Still, his obsession with violence seems to reflect this trend among a lot of trannies.
Monky said:
Generally speaking I stay away from kraut victory mods, it's the most overdone concept in alternate history and I just find that shit boring. Sadly all of the mods based around interesting concepts seem to get stuck in development hell.
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Nazi Victory timelines are just difficult to pull off well in general, because they usually go in stupid directions like excessive grimdark (as if 40 years of Communism in Eastern Europe wasn't a form of real life grimdark) or Neoliberal triumphalism like in TWR.
HumanHive said:
This is standard Paradox, though. We saw it in HOI3, where basic problems were never fixed and we just got several DLC that added new stuff nobody asked for and OH LOOK IT'S TIME FOR HOI4
It's increasingly clear that HOI5 is just around the corner. Maybe not announcement-wise, but dev wise definately. Paradox is looking at HOI4 and saying to itself "there's so much unfixable at the base level, better start all over and release the same features as DLC once again". HOI is a barbarossa simulator, nothing more. It cannot handle the pacific, it can't handle the battle of britain, it can't handle north africa or the atlantic, and it can BARELY handle D-Day. Only just barely. No matter how hard you scream on the paradox forums, they'll never add features that will make these theatres remotely playable or worth fighting in - just look at North Africa, in real life it was all about the oil fields but really there's nothing in the Middle East or Africa worth figthing for and is better off ignored for an all-or-nothing invasion of the UK proper - instead they'll just add two or three focus trees at a time over several years, while modders prove that you can easily make and test a focus tree in the course of a week.

It's all a sick joke. All of it. In some ways that's why TNO got so much attention, it promised a bunch of new systems and mechanics that were leagues above what Paradox farted out in between scratching its bum. We could easily have super events and complex logistical systems that make a battle for the Atlantic/Pacific island hopping worth doing, but no instead it's always going to be "send army to capture enemy capital". Because that's all Paradox's Barbarossa simulator is meant to be. Capture Moscow/Capture Berlin.
I absolutely will not be buying HOI5 when it comes out. Because fuck it, I have better uses of my time.
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Paradox realizes that they have a niche market that will never grow, so they opt to find new ways to milk their audience with useless DLCs. Mods are really the only reason to buy the games, anyway. I bought HoI IV and CK II for that reason. At this point, Paradox really doesn't care
Anglo-Saxophone said:
Goddamn I sure have missed a lot, as others have said, the HoI IV community is absolutely fucked, probably because not only are paradox games a mongoloid magnet, but WW2 in general is as well, but don't get me wrong, CK3 seems to be getting fucked by troons too.
Take the lead dev of the After the End: Fan Fork mod, who recently came out as trans, 9Kbits has quite a history himself on things such as the Kaiserreich dating sim server, he posted a trilogy's worth of rants, so much so that the rest of the server pretty much started to ignore him. It also further proves that the incel - transbian pipeline is very much real.
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I remember seeing that post on the AtE subreddit after Ellen Page needed more attention. It's incredibly annoying when mods feel the need to use fan communities for validation of their degenerate lifestyles.
 
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Based_Papa_John said:
Leftists and globohomos have this thing about fagging on about how evil Nazism was and how close the world came to being dominated by them, but then downplaying how effective they were. You see that on all the History, Inc. channels on YouTube. If the Nazis were so incompetent and ineffective, then were they really that big a threat to the world? They like to have it both ways. That's why mods like TNO like to tell you how close the Nazis were to world domination, yet go on about how fragile they supposedly were by imploding into non-sensical civil wars.

Given the degeneracy that seems to be a defining characteristic of Lefties of all stripes, I'm guessing their fascination with Nazis stems from a bizarre BDSM fetish fueled by self-loathing. You sometimes hear these guys openly fantasizing about being raped and dominated by Nazis. Like everything these guys do, it's an extension of their fetishes.

More true than you would realize. I know a tranny like that who says he's big into violence, but would never get into actual activism that would get him hurt. Still, his obsession with violence seems to reflect this trend among a lot of trannies.

Nazi Victory timelines are just difficult to pull off well in general, because they usually go in stupid directions like excessive grimdark (as if 40 years of Communism in Eastern Europe wasn't a form of real life grimdark) or Neoliberal triumphalism like in TWR.

Paradox realizes that they have a niche market that will never grow, so they opt to find new ways to milk their audience with useless DLCs. Mods are really the only reason to buy the games, anyway. I bought HoI IV and CK II for that reason. At this point, Paradox really doesn't care

I remember seeing that post on the AtE subreddit after Ellen Page needed more attention. It's incredibly annoying when mods feel the need to use fan communities for validation of their degenerate lifestyles.
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I'm a piratechad and refuse to give shekels to Paradox.
Fucking lazy niggers took years to make a focus tree for Turkey and Mexico.
 
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Sneed said:
Freedom of speech for everyone. I consider that the doxxing of the team members was wrong, but they are shutting everything that criticizes them in a way that they don't consider "constructive."

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Calph#9756 is the new lead developer of TNO with the shadow leadership they formed. TNO team members are part of a massive Reddit conspiracy with leftists groups, I know it.

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I don't support doxxing. I think it was logical for them to make this. This post will be deleted soon, knowing that TNO devs have agents here checking the forum and I don't want for the flames to further increase. This was solely to give the community transparency.
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"Planet TNO"? Fucking lmao, it's literally the Fuhrerbunker. These motherfuckers are going underground. I have to commend their step up in security, though if this server is team only, I have a hunch this will only increase the rift between the community and the team.

Remember devs, you will never escape the drama. It doesn't matter if you completely disconnect all ties to your community, someone somewhere in your bunker will inevitably get pissy, leak/dox shit, and start the cycle all over again.

Ask yourselves this; is it really worth going through all this suffering, having your private details leaked, harassed, mocked, constantly on the run, etc, all for a mediocre mod (that's for an even more mediocre game)?
 
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absolut_rtrd said:
I might be off mark here, but i don't think the problem is with trans people per-se, just that when a bunch of the more deranged ones get together, form a dilation-grooming cult and start embodying the tranny archetype that shit starts going downhill.
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whoever leads the server really needs to act as a vanguard against deranged troons otherwise this shit happens. i think that even if troons werent a part of this mod it would suffer from the same problem. its more of a problem with the leadership that refuse to crack down on freaks because they get fellated by them endlessly rather than who the people that are acting like degenerates are.

i still dont understand why a discord for a non-porn game even needs NSFW channels or why a discord for something specific as a HOI4 mod has Offtopic channels. i see this with a lot of discord servers that act more like a general hangout than a server dedicated to a certain thing.
 
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Based_Papa_John said:
Leftists and globohomos have this thing about fagging on about how evil Nazism was and how close the world came to being dominated by them, but then downplaying how effective they were. You see that on all the History, Inc. channels on YouTube. If the Nazis were so incompetent and ineffective, then were they really that big a threat to the world? They like to have it both ways. That's why mods like TNO like to tell you how close the Nazis were to world domination, yet go on about how fragile they supposedly were by imploding into non-sensical civil wars.

Given the degeneracy that seems to be a defining characteristic of Lefties of all stripes, I'm guessing their fascination with Nazis stems from a bizarre BDSM fetish fueled by self-loathing. You sometimes hear these guys openly fantasizing about being raped and dominated by Nazis. Like everything these guys do, it's an extension of their fetishes.

More true than you would realize. I know a tranny like that who says he's big into violence, but would never get into actual activism that would get him hurt. Still, his obsession with violence seems to reflect this trend among a lot of trannies.

Nazi Victory timelines are just difficult to pull off well in general, because they usually go in stupid directions like excessive grimdark (as if 40 years of Communism in Eastern Europe wasn't a form of real life grimdark) or Neoliberal triumphalism like in TWR.

Paradox realizes that they have a niche market that will never grow, so they opt to find new ways to milk their audience with useless DLCs. Mods are really the only reason to buy the games, anyway. I bought HoI IV and CK II for that reason. At this point, Paradox really doesn't care

I remember seeing that post on the AtE subreddit after Ellen Page needed more attention. It's incredibly annoying when mods feel the need to use fan communities for validation of their degenerate lifestyles.
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They are so mad the fuckers are putting pro trannyjanny flairs
 
Based_Papa_John said:
Leftists and globohomos have this thing about fagging on about how evil Nazism was and how close the world came to being dominated by them, but then downplaying how effective they were. You see that on all the History, Inc. channels on YouTube. If the Nazis were so incompetent and ineffective, then were they really that big a threat to the world? They like to have it both ways. That's why mods like TNO like to tell you how close the Nazis were to world domination, yet go on about how fragile they supposedly were by imploding into non-sensical civil wars.

Given the degeneracy that seems to be a defining characteristic of Lefties of all stripes, I'm guessing their fascination with Nazis stems from a bizarre BDSM fetish fueled by self-loathing. You sometimes hear these guys openly fantasizing about being raped and dominated by Nazis. Like everything these guys do, it's an extension of their fetishes.

More true than you would realize. I know a tranny like that who says he's big into violence, but would never get into actual activism that would get him hurt. Still, his obsession with violence seems to reflect this trend among a lot of trannies.

Nazi Victory timelines are just difficult to pull off well in general, because they usually go in stupid directions like excessive grimdark (as if 40 years of Communism in Eastern Europe wasn't a form of real life grimdark) or Neoliberal triumphalism like in TWR.

Paradox realizes that they have a niche market that will never grow, so they opt to find new ways to milk their audience with useless DLCs. Mods are really the only reason to buy the games, anyway. I bought HoI IV and CK II for that reason. At this point, Paradox really doesn't care

I remember seeing that post on the AtE subreddit after Ellen Page needed more attention. It's incredibly annoying when mods feel the need to use fan communities for validation of their degenerate lifestyles.
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Isn't downplaying the Nazi's effectiveness a recent pivot designed to make comparisons between the actual Nazis and /pol/ spergs more believable, and to counteract the exaggerations the older "America saved the world from the strongest evil in human history, fuck yeah!" narratives used?
 
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FreshThrowawayKiwi said:
Ask yourselves this; is it really worth going through all this suffering, having your private details leaked, harassed, mocked, constantly on the run, etc, all for a mediocre mod (that's for an even more mediocre game)?
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This might be a bit of an unpopular opinion but I think TNO in some ways does improve the overall experience of Hoi4 that elevates it above some other mods. I think a lot of the mechanics are unique and add to the overall experience (such as the US senate mechanics), decisions feel like they matter more though small mini-games or just in general with something that isn't a generic stability/war support/party popularity boost, and events, while admittedly there are a lot of poor and downright edgy events, can be interesting to read or add to the flavor. Those things can make up for the mostly railroaded experience present in TNO while offering a unique cold war esque game in an alternate reality. That being said, it doesnt make up for the many issues plaguing the mod such as its political bias, incoherent lore, the work environment and general attitude of the devs, and the downright awful community to name a few. At the same time though, if the mod does die or at least become stagnant it really would be a shame to let the unique mechanics and features go to waste.
 
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succmin said:
This might be a bit of an unpopular opinion but I think TNO in some ways does improve the overall experience of Hoi4 that elevates it above some other mods. I think a lot of the mechanics are unique and add to the overall experience (such as the US senate mechanics), decisions feel like they matter more though small mini-games or just in general with something that isn't a generic stability/war support/party popularity boost, and events, while admittedly there are a lot of poor and downright edgy events, can be interesting to read or add to the flavor. Those things can make up for the mostly railroaded experience present in TNO while offering a unique cold war esque game in an alternate reality. That being said, it doesnt make up for the many issues plaguing the mod such as its political bias, incoherent lore, the work environment and general attitude of the devs, and the downright awful community to name a few. At the same time though, if the mod does die or at least become stagnant it really would be a shame to let the unique mechanics and features go to waste.
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I'm going as far as to say TNO made HOI4 gain momentum. The lore sucks ass, but when you play for the first time you think "WOOOW THOSE MECHANICS ARE SOO COOL" until you look deeper and see that just because it has effort on it doesn't mean it's good.
 
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succmin said:
This might be a bit of an unpopular opinion but I think TNO in some ways does improve the overall experience of Hoi4 that elevates it above some other mods. I think a lot of the mechanics are unique and add to the overall experience (such as the US senate mechanics), decisions feel like they matter more though small mini-games or just in general with something that isn't a generic stability/war support/party popularity boost, and events, while admittedly there are a lot of poor and downright edgy events, can be interesting to read or add to the flavor. Those things can make up for the mostly railroaded experience present in TNO while offering a unique cold war esque game in an alternate reality. That being said, it doesnt make up for the many issues plaguing the mod such as its political bias, incoherent lore, the work environment and general attitude of the devs, and the downright awful community to name a few. At the same time though, if the mod does die or at least become stagnant it really would be a shame to let the unique mechanics and features go to waste.
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I'll admit that TNO is a improvement on HoI4. The custom mechanics are much more in depth (combat still sucks ass though), some of the writing is, eh, ok, and the graphics are a bit flashier. It's when you dig deeper that you see how horribly it holds up. Like you said; biases, terrible lore, devs with sticks up their asses and a horrible work environment (excessive quotas for example) that encourages crunch and stress on team members, and all while not getting a cent out of it.

Ultimately its all relative. HoI4 is an extremely bland game, and TNO just barely has a pinch of salt and pepper to give it the slightest bit of taste.
 
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Alright, i'm seeing more posts about him so..

Meet Joseph Cash Pcola IV, the lead developer of HGO. He's now known as Atlantica but he has previously been known as SkylarWeston and Cass. PFP on the left and face on the right - many such cases! His address is 129 POWERLINE ROAD, FREEDOM PENNSYLVANIA.
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He's the head of the Historic Geographic Overhaul mod, a mod that turns HOI4 into a mapping tool to remake historical borders or create althistory maps. It adds over 11000 states to the game's map. The mod is really fucking awful, but it isn't as awful as its creator.

Skylar was born Joseph Cash Pcola on the 5th of September of 2001. He claims to be heir to the house of Kyburg because one of his ancestors is related to it. He is diagnosed with gender dysphoria, Asperger's syndrome, depression, and anxiety.

He joined the Mapping community (a community based around Youtube videos of countries talking to each other, yes it's as autistic as it sounds) in 2017. Here's a 2 hour long livestream of him making a map of Austria-Hungary. I remember that people in the Mapping community made fun of him for looking retarded. He became an admin in a pretty big mapping Discord server but left after he rigged the server's elections in his favor because he was really fucking desperate to have a mod position in a mapping discord server. Joe later turned to HOI4, which is where it gets really interesting.

On late 2018 Joe created the HGO mod. I already described the mod. Here's where people like Crasher started to appear. Sometime in 2019. At the age of 18 Skylar started dating an autistic communist called Filip after they bonded over banning people together. At some point they broke up and Skylar leaked his DMs with Filip. 1 year later Skylar filed a DMCA against him.
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Then Skylar started dating a mentally retarded (not joking, a girl who is actually mentally damaged) girl. They currently are 'engaged'. When his girlfriend was asked about being engaged, she said she didn't know what it meant. He also sexually assaulted a girl IRL while dating her.

In the post you guys posted earlier he talks about the 'Price incident'. Last year on May Skylar promoted a creepy pedophile to mod in one of his servers which. This pedo refused to ban some 27 year old who solicited nudes from an underage girl called Price and Skylar banned the girl and started to defend the pedos because he 'didn't want to start drama'. This resulted in a huge #MeToo movement that got him banned from pretty much every HOI4 mod. There was a post on r/hoi4modding about this which became one of the most upvoted posts in the subreddit. I think after this he threatened suicide. This resulted in the HGO mod server getting nuked for the 15th time by some gay furry who was angry at Skylar.
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The HGO server has been nuked 22 times and Skylar is on his 5th account. He has doxxed himself multiple times. One time he shouted his address on VC and he obviously revealed his name (Joseph Cash Pcola). He also posted multiple pics of his face because some trolls convinced him that if he posts 3 pics replicating YandereDev's face pics they will stop trolling him. Also, he sent his dick pic to someone and it was leaked.
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Tamerlane_1453 said:
Also in case you guys think I’m a TNO spy, this is an example of the troonouts that happen in TNO redux. Imagine this but all the time, can you see why I want to join the 4channer redux now?
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>We are losing our team

So that announcement they put out saying "Well ACKSHUALLY only six people stepped down" is just another falsehood. The absolute state of TNO that even when under the internet's microscope they just lie and hope no one in their 200 staff member team doesn't flip.
 
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