Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

[CascadiaLifter]

Source, also who the hell thought that made any sense?

Because Yockey szicho meanie

 

[NynchLiggers]

That's for the initial GCW. In TNO2 the RAF/DSR is a huge protagonist. And with the Speer Rework it's gonna be a Anti Nazi Circlejerk

So they are just going to make it a anarcho-peepeepoopooist power fantasy in the 70's? The butthurt after the leaks probably motivated it.

 

[winderson_silva]

Also the canon Russian unification being just normal commies without something remarkable after two decades of warlordism makes no sense.

a guy said that the canon timeline is "a triunph of mediocrity"

 

[NynchLiggers]

a guy said that the canon timeline is "a triunph of mediocrity"

But the thing that makes the libsoc power fantasy be more clear is the fact for some reason the U.S allies with a crumbling Germany against a implied Libsoc or Social Democratic Russia against all reason in the 70's.

 

[winderson_silva]

Kek, a redditor tried to defend the RAF with "unlike in the 9/11 they got popular suport". i'm sure lots of people in saudi arabia comemorated 9/11

https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/8vluc0/new_dsr_leak_from_the_discord/

 

[CascadiaLifter]

So they are just going to make it a anarcho-peepeepoopooist power fantasy in the 70's? The butthurt after the leaks probably motivated it.

Like I said earlier it's gonna be Soviet Collapse but the whole ideological rainbow. And if you pick any other candidate for Fuhrer 2 electric Boogaloo it's gonna MASSIVE Failstate

Kek, a redditor tried to defend the RAF with "unlike in the 9/11 they got popular suport". i'm sure lots of people in saudi arabia comemorated 9/11

https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/8vluc0/new_dsr_leak_from_the_discord/

What left wing ideology does to a nigga

 

[winderson_silva]

Source, also who the hell thought that made any sense?

dev comments on discord.

https://kiwifarms.st/attachments/wat-png.1888467/

 

[CascadiaLifter]

dev comments on discord.

https://kiwifarms.st/attachments/wat-png.1888467/

This doesn't make sense with TNO2 Lore because it's "Canon" That Bormann Failstates and cucks to the OFN/America

 

[Iceland Heavy]

But the thing that makes the libsoc power fantasy be more clear is the fact for some reason the U.S allies with a crumbling Germany against a implied Libsoc or Social Democratic Russia against all reason in the 70's.

Because even in a timeline where Nazis won the real bad guy still has to be the US stopping wholesome chungusite Real Communism from happening apparently.

 

[PisciumPenuaria]

Kek, a redditor tried to defend the RAF with "unlike in the 9/11 they got popular suport". i'm sure lots of people in saudi arabia comemorated 9/11

https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/8vluc0/new_dsr_leak_from_the_discord/

And Israel

 

[CascadiaLifter]

Because even in a timeline where Nazis won the real bad guy still has to be the US stopping wholesome chungusite Real Communism from happening apparently.

Yea I think TNO2 Canon US President is McNamara you know the Military Industrial Complex Shill, who is gonna ally with Lifesupport Germany over Wholesome 100 Big Chungus Among Us Sablin Russia

 

[HumanHive]

This doesn't make sense with TNO2 Lore because it's "Canon" That Bormann Failstates and cucks to the OFN/America

Doesn't have to German state supported Nazis. It can just be those random Nazis that exist just about anywhere.
(still a stupid fucking idea)

You know what would be a fun idea? DB Cooper but it turns out to be a rabbit hole of trying to fund terrorism in Europe. Like the IRA, but an endless loop of "Himmler is using leftist terrorists to fund Nazi terrorism, who are using Himmler to fund left wing terrorism, who Himmler is using to..."

 

[winderson_silva]

This doesn't make sense with TNO2 Lore because it's "Canon" That Bormann Failstates and cucks to the OFN/America

besides, why would neonazis target the wtc in specific? won't make more sense to bomb lincoln memorial or something? the wtc as choose as a target because bin laden hated what it simbolized.
it's like saying that in TNO timeline the 1995 sarin attack in Tokyo was made by the japanese red army, despite having no reason to do it in the same way as the cult did.

 

[CascadiaLifter]

Doesn't have to German state supported Nazis. It can just be those random Nazis that exist just about anywhere.
(still a stupid fucking idea)

You know what would be a fun idea? DB Cooper but it turns out to be a rabbit hole of trying to fund terrorism in Europe. Like the IRA, but an endless loop of "Himmler is using leftist terrorists to fund Nazi terrorism, who are using Himmler to fund left wing terrorism, who Himmler is using to..."

Himmler would make sense for 9/11, If Oil Crisis America decides to either side with the Ba'athists (Than we have a standard Wahabist 9/11) or with the Saudis (Ba'athist 9/11), Japanese Nationalists. But Neo-Nazi's?

Also D.B. Cooper as Burgundian spy or even a Neo Scramble for Africa in a Post Greater African Reichstaat.

besides, why would neonazis target the wtc in specific? won't make more sense to bomb lincoln memorial or something? the wtc as choose as a target because bin laden hated what it simbolized.
it's like saying that in TNO timeline the 1995 sarin attack in Tokyo was made by the japanese red army, despite having no reason to do it in the same way as the cult did.

The New York Stock Exchange? The Pentagon? Congress? Like it's stupid leftie circlejerk

 

[Corpun]

muhhh Holesome Libsoc Germany incomming .
Lead by Kween Meinhoff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrike_Meinhof
For those who dont know Deutsche Sozialistische Republik is splinter faction from Speer if German civil war goes on for long enough . (At the moment it is disabled because they dont have content ).
It was supposed to be Short lived Communist state. That would act like Khmer rouge . Before collapsing .

https://i.redd.it/bmuq6pcn54x11.png

View attachment 1940509

Good to know the only lip service that this mod Isn't a leftist circle jerk is now going to be reworked. I guess all of Russia, Germany, and several US Presidents need reworked now to be more in line with their OTL beliefs.

Some people on youtube said the documentary was "racist", because you know, showing actual ethinic cleasing is racist, you should instead let africans kill other groups without filming because it's as bad as the killing.

Reminds me of those people who whine wildlife documentaries show animals being killed. What are a handful of filmmakers going to do to stop an army or warlord band of rebels from slaughtering a village?

Yea and with the whole TNO Conservative Bormann ending it basically is the Devs going full RAF circlejerk Like the IRL German Autumn on steroids but it's wh0lsome 100% chungus bash the fash

My favorite part of Bormann's god awful tree is how everything is going fine then you are railroaded into a failstate because you can't investigate the commies somehow despite them supporting Speer in lore. Yeah I am sure Speer is able to be killed shortly into Bormann's run all the way in the US but a few dozen communists can't get investigated in Germany.

If I was tabby developer, Id have him be an autocratic russian nationalist that has monarchist undertones , not some scatterbrain who thinks that alex is still alive.

But muh wackiness!!!!!!!!!!

The DSR's very existance in the game was so the trannyjannies could show "Look guys, this mod is not a power fantasy at all"
So we are going to look forward to decades of Nazi propaganda being undone by homo rights?

It is gonna be another KR CSA. Miraculously everyone is on board with legalized miscegenation, LGBT rights, and monument destruction in 1930s/1940s America with no protests whatsoever.

I know, from what they implied it was just a replica of the soviet collapse but earlier and more chaotic because nazis are dumb.
But, the fact they collapse like that cuz realism yet fag rights in Russia just works.
Also the canon Russian unification being just normal commies without something remarkable after two decades of warlordism makes no sense.
They began to ban people in the subreddit for asking lore questions after the shitshow.

They made it a rule on the Discord not to talk about their autistic lore changes to make America just as bad as literal Nazi Germany somehow. My favorite game to play with them back when I was on the sub was the mental gymnastics they go through to argue the mod is supposed to be super realistic and gritty with how badly Fascism ruins the world but muh big lake in Congo and Feudal LARP in Siberia.

DSR really doesn't make sense for any German unifiers except Speer. Especially Since Bormann is a Orpo coomer

But fascism inevitably fails you Nazi bigot! Can you even name one police state in the world other than China or North Korea?

This doesn't make sense with TNO2 Lore because it's "Canon" That Bormann Failstates and cucks to the OFN/America

I still don't understand the hoops they've gone through to come to America bad rather than just supporting Zhukov. Doesn't matter since they'll never have their LibSoc 90s mod where the US is collapsing, Germany is some ultra wholesome state or some shit, and Russia is now led by Sablin.

Because even in a timeline where Nazis won the real bad guy still has to be the US stopping wholesome chungusite Real Communism from happening apparently.

"The US napalms Africa if they take it over though!!!! See same thing."

They actually advocate a partial OFN victory in Africa since the Afrikan RKs are railroaded to collapse into warlord states and apparently it is far better for a bunch of chaotic warlord states to exist rather than the US taking over and building new countries ground up (That yes, the US is forced to fail at because even more railroading).

besides, why would neonazis target the wtc in specific? won't make more sense to bomb lincoln memorial or something? the wtc as choose as a target because bin laden hated what it simbolized.
it's like saying that in TNO timeline the 1995 sarin attack in Tokyo was made by the japanese red army, despite having no reason to do it in the same way as the cult did.

Because they are dogshit at althist and think simply replacing the actors will make it good. It would be like making Lincoln lead a northern revolt against a Southern president who continues slavery, loses the war, and said Southern president (Presumbly Jefferson Davis) is subsequently assassinated by a Abolitionist actor. Entirely different scenario with entirely different motivations, the original plot Booth had was even to just kidnap Lincoln and ransom him for peace with the South.

 

[CascadiaLifter]

Good to know the only lip service that this mod Isn't a leftist circle jerk is now going to be reworked. I guess all of Russia, Germany, and several US Presidents need reworked now to be more in line with their OTL beliefs.

Reminds me of those people who whine wildlife documentaries show animals being killed. What are a handful of filmmakers going to do to stop an army or warlord band of rebels from slaughtering a village?

My favorite part of Bormann's god awful tree is how everything is going fine then you are railroaded into a failstate because you can't investigate the commies somehow despite them supporting Speer in lore. Yeah I am sure Speer is able to be killed shortly into Bormann's run all the way in the US but a few dozen communists can't get investigated in Germany.

But muh wackiness!!!!!!!!!!

It is gonna be another KR CSA. Miraculously everyone is on board with legalized miscegenation, LGBT rights, and monument destruction in 1930s/1940s America with no protests whatsoever.

They made it a rule on the Discord not to talk about their autistic lore changes to make America just as bad as literal Nazi Germany somehow. My favorite game to play with them back when I was on the sub was the mental gymnastics they go through to argue the mod is supposed to be super realistic and gritty with how badly Fascism ruins the world but muh big lake in Congo and Feudal LARP in Siberia.

But fascism inevitably fails you Nazi bigot! Can you even name one police state in the world other than China or North Korea?

I still don't understand the hoops they've gone through to come to America bad rather than just supporting Zhukov. Doesn't matter since they'll never have their LibSoc 90s mod where the US is collapsing, Germany is some ultra wholesome state or some shit, and Russia is now led by Sablin.

"The US napalms Africa if they take it over though!!!! See same thing."

They actually advocate a partial OFN victory in Africa since the Afrikan RKs are railroaded to collapse into warlord states and apparently it is far better for a bunch of chaotic warlord states to exist rather than the US taking over and building new countries ground up (That yes, the US is forced to fail at because even more railroading).

Because they are dogshit at althist and think simply replacing the actors will make it good. It would be like making Lincoln lead a northern revolt against a Southern president who continues slavery, loses the war, and said Southern president (Presumbly Jefferson Davis) is subsequently assassinated by a Abolitionist actor. Entirely different scenario with entirely different motivations, the original plot Booth had was even to just kidnap Lincoln and ransom him for peace with the South.

The Lategame Bormann Tree is fucking retarded. Like somehow everyone from the Catholic and Lutheran Church to Conservatives and Libreals and Militarists WW2 Heroes Hans Spiedel and most of the Reich's Intelligence Community are apart of a July Coup like event and suddenly 2nd Night of the Long Knives and what the vents read as a Mini Civil War with Wehrmacht units battling in the streets. And order restored and he can't do a fucking simple investigation into college communist groups.

 

[winderson_silva]

But the thing that makes the libsoc power fantasy be more clear is the fact for some reason the U.S allies with a crumbling Germany against a implied Libsoc or Social Democratic Russia against all reason in the 70's.

Even a guy on reddit made a post saying it makes no sense, all the canon american presidents are liberals and they had absolutly no reason to prefer Bormann to Zukhov

 

[CascadiaLifter]

Even a guy on reddit made a post saying it makes no sense, all the canon american presidents are liberals and they had absolutly no reason to prefer Bormann to Zukhov

Yea the TNO Canon Lore is such good writing that no NPP candidates are elected president. And Russia having a population of less than a 100 Million (70 Mil If I am correct) is going to Industrialize, Modernize and have a military capable of taking on the Reich. Oh nevermind the Oil Crisis just doesn't affect Russia even though their Central Asian Natural Gas hasn't been developed, Siberian Oil TOTALLY unscathed by SEVERAL unification wars, and the Cacauses under German control. And Post Soviet Brain Drain.

 

[K-On!Ethnostate]

muhhh Holesome Libsoc Germany incomming .
Lead by Kween Meinhoff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrike_Meinhof
For those who dont know Deutsche Sozialistische Republik is splinter faction from Speer if German civil war goes on for long enough . (At the moment it is disabled because they dont have content ).
It was supposed to be Short lived Communist state. That would act like Khmer rouge . Before collapsing .

https://i.redd.it/bmuq6pcn54x11.png

View attachment 1940509

ngl, Khmer Rouge Germany would be kinda based. (in the mod)

 

[winderson_silva]

And Russia having a population of less than a 100 Million (70 Mil If I am correct) is going to Industrialize, Modernize and have a military capable of taking on the Reich. Oh nevermind the Oil Crisis just doesn't affect Russia even though their Central Asian Natural Gas hasn't been developed, Siberian Oil TOTALLY unscathed by SEVERAL unification wars, and the Cacauses under German control. And Post Soviet Brain Drain.

People justify with "but germany will have a civil war/stagnation", even if the german are retarded enough to keep the civil war while being attacked by a common enemy, russia just finished not one, not 2, but dozens of civil wars, 20 years of bombing and etc, to the point where now germany have more people than russia and full superiority in military and tech.
Doesn't matter if Zukhov is a genious or a retarded, one thing is for sure: he isn't a magician, he can't grow tanks on trees and wars between over 40 states will fuck the country.
If germany is 80's USSR, a reunited russia will be 90's Congo.