Racemixing Debate - Do you support it? Are you again it?

[Fapcop]

What I have found that black culture is the thing that actually hurts them more than anything else.

Agreed.

At least in my experience actually getting to know them. Intelligence isn't necessarily the issue. It's how they are brought up. How they learn to live, what they are taught is important.

Important to remember however, that America is far from the only place where blacks are… Underperforming.

Indeed, it would seem that blacks are the underclass in all countries they live in, and majority black countries don’t exactly excel in science, business and intellectual arts.

Obviously that doesn’t mean that there aren’t extraordinary blacks, I of course have met intelligent black people just like Inhave met dysfunctional whites.

But we are talking about averages and populations here.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

https://youtu.be/33gQ1VuGgSs?si=4evDqtX_tyAGKXqt

At 7:30 seems perfect for this thread

"your white if I like you"

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Agreed.

Important to remember however, that America is far from the only place where blacks are… Underperforming.

Indeed, it would seem that blacks are the underclass in all countries they live in, and majority black countries don’t exactly excel in science, business and intellectual arts.

Obviously that doesn’t mean that there aren’t extraordinary blacks, I of course have met intelligent black people just like Inhave met dysfunctional whites.

But we are talking about averages and populations here.

I can't say genetics plays no role. Because of course it's going to have some role in anything. But, even with the rest of the world to say that is still the main cause, would really be simplifying it.

Psychology is such a complicated thing, how we act because we are raised a certain way. The things around us growing up. What we learn that the world is. Then adding in all the socioeconomic factors, no matter where in the world we are talking about. It just complicates things even more.

For me with genetics, I feel like it's a correlation doesn't necessarily equal causation kind of thing. But I don't think that necessarily describes this situation correctly. Because it does have some causation. It's just a small fraction of the cause.


Edit: oh! I wanted to add.

Something people might not know. Is how you live your life. What you do. If you do drugs or not. Can actually cause physical changes to peoples brains. How neural networks are formed and reinforced. So that is something else to think about with this.

 

[Oligarca Caballero]

I mean with Hispanic stuff. I think you need to be a bit more specific since it's a fairly large region with a a bunch of different nations.

Most are a shit show for one reason or another. For sure.

I think Cia, and russian/soviet meddling really hasn't helped them much either. With certain countries.

And drug cartels in others.

Yeah, but the issue I touched upon is general on all of the nations in question. I am not denying all the other structural issues but lack of identity has in fact played a role in the modern disaster developing there. In Peru for instance during the end of the XIX the pseudo-aristocracy that ruled the country couldn't give less of a shit about the mutts and indians they were ruling, they virtually had no attachment to their countries and exploited them endlessly for economic gain at the expense of the development of the nation. Same goes for Mexico where the ruling technocrats (both during the porfiriato and later on during the PRI) saw the masses as something completely foreign to them, engaging in all sort of abuses against poor mutts and indigenous peoples.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Yeah, but the issue I touched upon is general on all of the nations in question. I am not denying all the other structural issues but lack of identity has in fact played a role in the modern disaster developing there. In Peru for instance during the end of the XIX the pseudo-aristocracy that ruled the country couldn't give less of a shit about the mutts and indians they were ruling, they virtually had no attachment to their countries and exploited them endlessly for economic gain at the expense of the development of the nation. Same goes for Mexico where the ruling technocrats (both during the porfiriato and later on during the PRI) saw the masses as something completely foreign to them, engaging in all sort of abuses against poor mutts and indigenous peoples.

I can't say I know enough about Latin America to say you are right or wrong. But surely even there it was still more complicated than just that.

I mean. For me. I really think my issue with political discussions about race. Whether it be far right, or far left. I feel like they get over simplified. And because of that part of the cause gets ignored.

The lefties won't acknowledge genetics at all, they won't point out actual issues with a culture. Unless it's white culture, and they basically only seem to think about privilege, and socio-economic issues.

The far right, seems to be mostly concentrated on the genetic part. They do look at culture, but don't seem to pay much attention to how socio-economic factors come into play with parts of it.

Of course this is just a generalization of what I see from the outside. And of course I can get a better idea of what the far left actually believes because they are very vocal about it.

 

[MDWU]

I care more about eugenics than I do racism.
If you care about keepin da huwhite race pure, take a drive through the Midwest sometime, stop at any of the 80%+ white towns you'll come across along the way and have a gander at the women.
Those pan faced descendants of the Amish are the only evidence needed to prove having a little mix of literally anything else at all can be a good thing.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

I can't say genetics plays no role. Because of course it's going to have some role in anything. But, even with the rest of the world to say that is still the main cause, would really be simplifying it.

It play a significant role , genetics give you the possible upper bound of a persons iq however lot of environmental factors can reduce the a persons iq. Abuse can lower it for 10- 15 points, terrible nutrition and disease also. Kenya for example due to consistent good nutrition in the past few decades and Access to tvs has registered ever increasing iq among their children.

My country on the other hand has registered 10 point iq drop due to anything with a brain leaving the country. Niggers in USA have the same problem look at most successful negroes with some brain half of them are married to asians and whites. Clarence Thomas the supreme court judge comes to mind . Their kids will probably marry whites and asians . They dont count as niggers too.

As for Hispanics its what you get with open borders and welfare for all. You get the bottom feeders showing up. You aren't going to see at the border the engineers and doctors they are all having comfortable life in latin America and probably will never leave unless you give them a contract plus various perks and a direct flight to whatever place you want them to work. Though i doubt anyone will show up now everyone can see what a shit show USA has become and how much terrible the housing costs are .

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

It play a significant role , genetics give you the possible upper bound of a persons iq however lot of environmental factors can reduce the a persons iq. Abuse can lower it for 10- 15 points, terrible nutrition and disease also. Kenya for example due to consistent good nutrition in the past few decades and Access to tvs has registered ever increasing iq among their children.

My country on the other hand has registered 10 point iq drop due to anything with a brain leaving the country. Niggers in USA have the same problem look at most successful negroes with some brain half of them are married to asians and whites. Clarence Thomas the supreme court judge comes to mind . Their kids will probably marry whites and asians . They dont count as niggers too.

As for Hispanics its what you get with open borders and welfare for all. You get the bottom feeders showing up. You aren't going to see at the border the engineers and doctors they are all having comfortable life in latin America and probably will never leave unless you give them a contract plus various perks and a direct flight to whatever place you want them to work. Though i doubt anyone will show up now everyone can see what a shit show USA has become and how much terrible the housing costs are .

I would say this is decently reasonable.

My argument about genetics, is more along the line of race, than just general genetics. Like I think genetics plays just as much of a role in a white person being a retard as a black person. I feel like I could word it better but you can probably get my point.

 

[The Great Mountain Juju]

No shit shitlock, how is that not obviously the answer? I guess the only group that gets to continue existing as a distinct and unique thing is jews you jew nigger?

I believe any individual should be free of others claiming to have a stake in their life. That also includes jews you obsessed soynigger. Also thanks for admitting you don't have a problem with in group preferences. You're just jealous that others are winning at it. What an inspirational and principled point to make.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

this site is fun. Idk why all the troons have to try and ruin it.

 

[trash cat]

I don't support race mixing.

While 94% of US adults say they support race mixing, only a tiny fraction of whites (<2%) will actually engage in race mixing.

I would be upset and would not approve if my own children decided to marry outside their own race.

98% of married whites in the US do not race mix.

92% of married blacks in the US do not race mix.

Then why is every. single. commercial. these days showing mixed race couples?

Ridiculous.

It's 100% normal and healthy to want to start a family and spend your social time with people ethnically similar to yourself.

If you, dear reader, want to date or marry outside your race, I don't care, and I don't want to stop you. I wish you a good life.

I just want the pro-miscegenation corporate propaganda and unrestricted illegal immigration to stop.

All I want to do is to be able to raise my family and children as I see fit, to live peacefully without serious crime, and live with people ethnically similar to myself.

Racial homogeneity leads to higher trust societies. If you don't want that, then move to downtown London or downtown San Francisco.

I hear the bright orange heroin needles are quite lovely this time of year.

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Then why is every. single. commercial. these days showing mixed race couples?

question is again who is watching them? Do you even watch anything that has comercials? I dont watch much western tv most of my "shows" are basically drama streams and various political videos commenting on the current events . The last show i watched that was of western production was The Shogun , prior to that was animes that i find interesting or old tv shows like fringe. I know of people who watch koreand and russian shows. Every single show that pushes girlboss and DEI shit fares badly. Look at the fallout show everyone are now vomitting how trash it is . My kid watches various productions on youtube that are made by white people because those shows are mostly sucsessfull and what my kid wants to watch.

 

[geckogoy]

I believe any individual should be free of others claiming to have a stake in their life. That also includes jews you obsessed soynigger. Also thanks for admitting you don't have a problem with in group preferences. You're just jealous that others are winning at it. What an inspirational and principled point to make.

Yea if only I cared about jews more than my own people how inspiring

 

[The Great Mountain Juju]

Yes yes fellas, how do we win at racism? Truly one of the great questions of our time.
edit: Screaming niggos aside, all I'm offering is that if you want to fight collectivism, you do it with individualism. Not with more of the same.

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

If you avoid sleeping with people just because of their race you're missing out. Not that you'd be able to get any in the first place.

 

[grimacefetishist]

I think it's funny that China hated women so much that now Chinese men have to race mix if they want kids

 

[Oligarca Caballero]

I can't say I know enough about Latin America to say you are right or wrong. But surely even there it was still more complicated than just that.

I mean. For me. I really think my issue with political discussions about race. Whether it be far right, or far left. I feel like they get over simplified. And because of that part of the cause gets ignored.

The lefties won't acknowledge genetics at all, they won't point out actual issues with a culture. Unless it's white culture, and they basically only seem to think about privilege, and socio-economic issues.

The far right, seems to be mostly concentrated on the genetic part. They do look at culture, but don't seem to pay much attention to how socio-economic factors come into play with parts of it.

Of course this is just a generalization of what I see from the outside. And of course I can get a better idea of what the far left actually believes because they are very vocal about it.

I generally agree with all you say. I was approaching the issue from a political and social standpoint. As I was saying I don't think race mixing is inherently bad, but I do see the genetic appeal not to do it.

 

[trash cat]

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question is again who is watching them? Do you even watch anything that has comercials?

I see the nonstop "racial harmony" commercials when I visit older family members who watch cable TV, or when I travel and use smart TVs that have YouTube without ad block.

It used to be occasional and plausible when you'd see a few commercials showing mixed families, but now it's just non-stop lunacy with no basis in reality ... literally all modern commercials push the idea that a situation which occurs in as little as 2% of US marriages is both ubiquitous and highly desirable.

I'm offering is that if you want to fight collectivism, you do it with individualism. Not with more of the same.

None of your ancestors had the luxury of surviving without some measure of collectivism.

Even the most individualistic cultures historically would be aghast at the modern day loss of community and loneliness epidemic.

The individualism you so cherish came from a very peculiar set of geographical and historical circumstances

It's not healthy or normal for people to be atomized, alienated, and deracinated.

Whoever they are.

 

[Norbert the Tiger]

a situation which occurs in as little as 2% of US marriages i

Unless there is a very radical shift that jettisons a lot of sacred cows (including Mill's Marketplace of Ideas, induvidual autonomy exists in a vacuum, that race is only skin deep, that people have inalienable rights), that number is going to go up, probably already has.

When Brown v Board was decided, it was very unpopular, so was Roe v Wade. Gay marriage was rightly opposed by a large majority until SCOTUS conjured a constitutional right to so called gay marriage from "penumbras" and all that. But, very quickly after these decisions were made, backed by a collaborative mass media, public opinion shifted in lock-step with these decrees and the propaganda. The masses go whichever way power is wielded, women much more than men.

Democracy is rule by mass media, simple as. In order to preserve European man and civilization, an energetic, radical contingent of 25 percent of the population needs to discern these truths and then just seize power by any means available, not caring if they are in the majority or not. Most crucially, seize the instruments of mass media, and people will, as they always do, follow the dominant narrative backed by 1) the assertion of power and political violence 2) a minimally competent propaganda and education campaign.

The idea that mass media has no effect on the tastes and beliefs of the individual is so absurd I'm incredulous that anyone could believe it. Culture ALWAYS determines the make up of the individual in ways even I can scarcely fathom.

 

[AgendaPoster]

I care more about eugenics than I do racism.

Richard Dawkins did yet another acknowledgement of eugenics working with humans on his podcast. Love it when libs are doing this shit.
As for the dysgenic whites, I know you're baiting, but there is some truth to that.
For example, there is no inherent correlation between having the proper genetics to carry 7 children like those Amish and IQ. The fact that mayos are very easy to pacify i.e. not doing too much crime, unlike the PoCs, is also quite problematic, because you want both a peaceful, productive society, but you also want the men to be capable of violence and bloodshed, and able to revolt against their ruling class or go to war as needed.
We should really have some proper eugenic policies and selection, that's for sure. Only after decades of testing we will understand the exact mix of qualities that's desirable.
So many diseases could be eradicated with eugenics. It's beyond sad that we are not doing it.