Rainer "Drachenlord" Winkler - The German Youtube Sensation

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On Monday, March 6th, Reiner got in a another fight with one of his trolls.

- He was at the main train station in the city of Jena.
- A troll came up to Rainer and was filming him with his smartphone.
- Rainer gets aggressive and tells the troll to fuck off but the troll doesn't back up.
- Rainer slaps the smartphone out of the trolls hand and it falls on the train tracks.
- A scuffle ensues and bystanders get involved. One of them also calls the cops.

The troll claims that Rainer broke his glasses and pressed charges against Rainer.
The cops press charges against the troll he jumped on the train tracks to get his smartphone back but entering the train tracks without being authorized is a minor offense.

Rainer wasn't investigated and went on a train he was waiting for. He then started a live stream and bragged about "headbutting the troll". The cops claim that there is video footage from security cameras but none shows Rainer headbutting anybody.

Video of the incident (potato quality):

News article about the incident (translated):

Video blogger is on probation

Fight at the train station - what are the consequences for the "Dragonlord"?


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After an altercation, the "Dragonlord" shows his bruises in the stream. (Source: Tiktok)

New trouble around the "Dragon Lord": Because the controversial video blogger fought dangerously close to the track, it came to police action at a train station. The incident has an aftermath.

This time, the cat-and-mouse game about Rainer Winkler ended in blood. The man from Middle Franconia, who has gained dubious notoriety with video streaming, got into a physical altercation with one of his so-called "haters." They now speculate that Winkler may have forfeited his probation as a result and will have to go to prison. But from the authorities' point of view, the incident currently has consequences for the opponent at best.

A bloody finger, a cell phone in the track bed and damaged glasses: This is the result of an altercation between Rainer Winkler and an opponent that took place on Monday at a train station in Jena. The net community around the "Dragonlord" witnessed it partly live in the stream on TikTok. The police confirmed the incident to t-online - a spokesman says: "It could have ended much worse.
Rainer Winkler fights at the station - police alerted
It was around 2 p.m. on Monday at the Jena Paradies train station in Thuringia, when the YouTuber was apparently waiting there for a regional train. Suddenly, a man approached him and held his cell phone in his face. What happened before that cannot be reconstructed. This is how Karsten Täschner, spokesman for the Erfurt federal police, who are responsible for the area, describes it, having looked at the footage from the station, which is under video surveillance.

Winkler turned away and gave the man to understand that he wanted to be left alone. But the man allegedly did not let up. Thereupon the dragon lord "made a punching motion, as a result of which the cell phone of the opponent fell into the track bed". As the recordings show, a scuffle ensued - dangerously close to the track, where a train was due to arrive at any moment. Bystanders intervened and someone alerted the police.
Videos of this circulate in the community, which follows Rainer Winkler's every action - a small part quite literally and not just virtually. At the same time, the 33-year-old himself repeatedly fuels the hype surrounding the so-called Dragon Game with controversial content and often provides clues as to where he can be found.

Täschner from the Erfurt Federal Police Inspectorate can only shake his head at this phenomenon. He tells t-online, "From a police perspective, the incident was definitely explosive. "Not at all to imagine if this tangle of people had fallen into the track bed at the moment the train was coming in."

The press officer reconstructs based on the footage from the station and on the net: Winkler was not the aggressor, but the "hater" who provoked him. The videos show that Winkler had turned away "in the sense of de-escalation". But the other had not let up. Thereupon, the video blogger "made a punching motion, as a result of which the opponent's cell phone fell into the track bed," and his glasses were also damaged.
"Dragonlord" afterwards in the stream: "This is what my life looks like".
The incident lasted for just under half an hour. In the end, Winkler boarded the regularly departing regional train - from where he again addressed the net community live. The 33-year-old, who hails from a tranquil little town in central Franconia, showed his bleeding finger with a torn nail. He says, "This is what my life looks like."

Winkler had not been the subject of their police investigation that day, Täschner explains. Neither would they have taken his personal details before he traveled on. The officers only got wind of the fact that the "Dragonlord" was involved through posts on the Internet.

In the community of his "haters," some users are literally waiting for the man from Middle Franconia to commit a crime. In March 2022, he was given a legally binding suspended sentence. In the event of a new incident, this could be revoked and he could have to go to prison.

Winkler had attracted attention because of insults and bodily harm to "haters". This was preceded in each case by provocations by the uninvited visitors. Several times in the past, there were confrontations after which the participants did not press charges - because they feared possible consequences for themselves. In Jena so far nobody reported, stressed the speaker on Wednesday noon. But that does not mean that one might not follow.

The opponent has meanwhile announced that he wants to file charges against Winkler, as an often well-informed Hater account tweeted on Wednesday evening.

Winkler wants to have given "Hater" a head butt
After all, Winkler had told afterwards in a livestream that he had given the opponent "full headnut", i.e. a head butt, after he had attacked him. In the video, he made the movement of a bump with his head. According to the police, this could not be seen on the surveillance pictures of the train in the confusion. With the possibly strongly exaggerated description Winkler attracted attention in any case.

Investigated after the pictures of the police is already now because of a misdemeanor against the opponent, who remained at the Jenaer station and whose personal data the police took up afterwards. "A male person of German nationality," said Täschner, but he was not allowed to reveal more for reasons of personal protection. The misdemeanor comes to the man because he jumped into the track bed afterwards to get his cell phone. According to the railroad construction and operating regulations, trespassing on tracks is not permitted.

The district court in Nuremberg had sentenced the video blogger in March 2022 to a suspended sentence of one year for, among other things, attacking a man with a flashlight and throwing a stone at another.

During that live stream Rainer got into another scuffle with someone on the train.
It can be heard on here (German audio only, sorry).

The incident could become problematic for Drachenlord bc he still is on parole.
 
LMAO this is not true at all.
Yeah, it actually is. There's social housing, which is low rent and for the less fortunate. I.e. a jobless homeless broke person. Naturally, not being a quadriplegic NAFRI mother of 4 slims his chances of getting a sweet apartment for free. But that's a thing in place.

What makes you say it isn't?

Let me explain: ALG2/Bürgergeld is clear. You get 500 buckaroos to live. The state will also cover up to 500 or 600€ of rent depending on where you live and how much your rent is.

Social living spaces, "Sozialwohnungen", are low rent, living spaces given out by the state if you are jobless or unable to work, or your job makes it hard to find a place on the regular market. You need to pay a small amount to the Gemeinde where you want the Appartment, and get a piece of paper stating you are eligible for one of them. Then the waiting game begins because as a white male you are far down the line. They're meant exactly for people like Rainer and other such types. North African immigrants for instance.

But do let me know what I got wrong.
 
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Wasn't it 85? Like, close to retarded but not quite there yet?

At least Rainer manages to travel between cities and knows how to find food and hotels. I don't think a 58iq person could do that.

I usually stick with the 58 bc it is way more likely than the 85. The IQ of 85 simply doesn't make sense.
But yeah, I should have gone more into detail there.

Here is the issue with the whole debate about his IQ: wEe simply don't know. We can only estimate it bc of the circumstances. The whole IQ situation is a bit more complexe.

During the original trial in Oktober 2021 and the retrial in March 2022 trolls have been at the trials to document the trials.

In the 1st trial the public was allowed to stay while the report about Rainer's mental state and issues has been discussed. But as far as I remember the trolls didn't mention an exact number in their report about the trial. But it was mentioned that Rainer got some sort of bonus on his sentence bc of being a retard.
In the 2nd trial the public wasn't allowed to stay while report was discussed. IIRC the trolls couldn't give much information in their report. But IIRC again Rainers IQ and inability of guilt mattered for his sentence again and gave him some sort of bonus.

I may misremember what the trolls reported though.
Both reports have been described as very accurate from a jounro who was at both trials and does communicate relatively normal with Rainers trolls (although he doesn't endorse them or their actions)

In German legal system we have the so called "Schuldunfähigkeit", roughly translated to "being inable of guilt" or "inability of guilt".

Being inable of guilt affects the abillity of being sentenced or the sentence itself.
Being inable of guilt has different levels and different reasons of being inable of guilt. Like if you were completely shitfaced during a crime or if you a true and honest retard. Or if you have any really massive psychological malfunction.

There are different levels of being a true and honest retard.
We use the ICD (International classification of diseases) system for these levels:

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1) IQ 50 - 69, simple mental retardation
2) IQ 35-49, moderate mental retardation
3) IQ 20-34, massive mental retardation
4) IQ below IQ, literally potato

IQ is over 70? Being inable of guilt for being dumb is off the table. Simple as that. But there is more about the specific IQ level of 85:

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With an IQ of 85 he wouldn't even qualify for having a learning disability.

So why would have been his IQ a topic in the 1st trial when he even doesn't have a learning disability? The answer is: it wouldn't have been a topic at all.

Is it plausible that Rainer doesn't even have a learning disability? Absolutely not. Just no.
Rainer is a complete dumbfuck. Not only bc of simple things that he don't know (like what is the Holocaust) but he can barely read or write. His writing skill is only the minimum level. He has no idea of numbers bigger like 10. He is ability of abstract thinking is completely lackluster. His pattern recognition is absolutely shit. He can't memorize the easist things.

And isn't it strange that he is exactly on the verge with 85? With the self-proclaimed 85 might I say. If he doesn't even show a learning disability why was he on special needs school in his schildhood? Rainer didn't life during the 80s or 70s. He went to school during the very late 90s and early 2000s (he is born 1992). I simply refuse to believe that he didn't undergo any sort of evaluation during his childhood. Kids don't simply get dumped in special needs schools. As fas as it is known he never went to any sort of regular school. So there must have been some sort of evaluation during his kindergarten years.

But there is another point to talk about: Whatever the report on his mental state in the 2nd trial shows I simply don't trust it. The whole story stinks because of the person who evaluated Rainer. This expert is involved in one of Bavaria's most infamous political scandals. It's the story about a guy called Gustl Mollath.
Mollath got sent into psychiatry and the person who evaluated Mollath back then is the same person who evaluated Rainer before the 2nd trial.
That guy also misevaluated a sexual offender once who got set free and committed new sexual related crimes.
Basically I don't trust that guy. In my books his reputation is tarnished although he still holds a noteworthy reputation in his field. Rainer's lawyer knew who he got for a new psychological evaluation.

So to recap the situation:
1) If Rainer has some sort of mentally retardation, like the 1st trial showed, his IQ simply can't be 85.
2) If he shows no signs of mental retardation there was no reason to go easy on him in the 1st trial (in the end he only got 2 years without parole. 2 years is the absolute minimum of jail time without parole in his case; he was a repeated offender, committed the crimes he already has been found guilty before several times again, he should no lack of remorse, no job, no family, no friends, no stable social life, nothing. Absolutely nothing that would have spoken for Rainer).
3) With an IQ of 85 he wouldn't qualify for having a simple learning disability (which has nothing to do with mental retardation).
4) A simple learning disability doesn't grant you any sort of bonus for being inable of guilt.
5) Why did Rainer say the specifict number of 85/58? He simply switched the numbers of course. But where does it come from? I'm pretty sure 58 has been mentioned somewhere in a document that we are not aware of/don't have a copy of.

That's why I stick with 58. Because it is simply more likely than 85 bc 85 doesn't make any sense at all.
 
Yesterday a 53 year old disabled guy (Marcel) who lives from welfare money went on TikTok and attacked Rainer for his lifestyle, his neverending begging for money and shifting every blame for the mistakes in his own life onto his trolls.


(TikTok video from Marcel, German audio)

This garnered some sympathies among Rainers trolls and they decided to collect some money for this older guy as he only has 320€ per month for living. They contacted the man but he declined to get any donations. Instead he asked Rainers trolls to donate to a hospice for children where he volunteers.

Today it was announced that over 11.000€ have been collected.

Marcel thanks the people for the donations:

(TikTok video, German audio)


background trivia: This wasn't organized by some random troll but by a small collective of trolls who are seen as to be trustworthy as they are involved in rhe Drachenlord saga for years now.

They did this in the past when there has been a flood in Ahrtal in July 2021 with over 130 dead and hundreds of destroyed homes.

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(Ahrtal, taken from Wikipedia)

Another fund-raiser happened years ago for an institution that helps seals in the East- and North-Sea.
 
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Update on the donation situation

Yesterday (Friday) Rainer presented a screenshot of a donation he allegedly made towards the hospice.

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The black bar is where Rainers bank account number (IBAN) appears. He censored it himself. But we have his IBAN fully documented in the German thread and the last four numbers on the screenshot match the last four numbers of the known IBAN.

Trolls are discussing if the screenshot could have been faked or not. No proof for it being fake or not has appeared so far.

The hospice gave a statement about the situation on their own webpage:
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Translation:
"Note on a call for donations
17.03.2023 | Andreas Wagner

Currently, an appeal for donations for our hospice St. Peter goes viral on the Internet. I cannot make any statements about the motives of the call for donations. We have already had contact with the initiator, Mr. Marcel C., who is described in some places as a volunteer of the hospice, thanked him and pointed out a misinformation. In the call for donations, the term "children's hospice" is used. We expressly point out that the hospice St. Peter is not a children's hospice. Also Mr. C. is contrary to individual contributions, not honorary in our house active.

The hospice St. Peter accompanies young and older adults at their end of life, but no children. We hope to counteract any misunderstandings that may arise with this information.

We would like to thank all past and future donors and assure them that 100% of the donations will be used for the care of our residents.

Kind regards
Andreas Wagner"


So the hospice confirms that they received some donations.
The trolls involved in this saga stated on their Telegram channel that it has been more than 20.000€ but no proof is given.

Also the hospice corrected some misinformation:
- The guy who confronted Rainer in the beginn, which led to this donation campagin, does not voluntarilly work for the hospice.
- The hospice is not for children but for young and elder adults.
 
What has happened in the last days and weeks

A few weeks ago Reiner started to hang around a clique of unknown TikTok retards (the guys who where pushing him to donate to a hospice; see my last two posts in this thread).

Last week or so the TikTok retards and Rainer decided that it's time for a chance in Rainers life. That he should start eating healthy and do sports to lose weight.
The TikTok retards losely agreed on to help Rainer with his x-th crusade against being a fat slob. When questioned during his own streams Rainer shifted all responbility to the TikTok retards. Like he can't say how his diet will look like bc others are planning his diet. He can't say how or where he will exercise bc others are going to plan this for him. Etc.

On Monday Rainer uploaded a TikTok video where he was talking about the situation and for some unknown but probably very dumb reason he stated he has a contract with the TikTok retards (which is obviously bullshit).

Yesterday during a stream with the TikTok retards it came to a fallout and Rainer rage quitted.

Today in a dramatic video* (gay sad piano music) Rainer announed that he will leave the internet forever and not upload any videos or do any streams in the future.

But don't be sad that it's over. Smile bc it happened Bc it's not over. It's his 4628254825285265th announcement to quit the internet.



*German audio; he's apologizing to the TikTok retards for being a dick and calls his quits
alternative link:
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Rainer's last blog entry from today

I didn't correct any grammar or misspelling in the original German text bc I wanted to see if I can break DeepL but it somehow turned out with having less errors than in the original text.

"Hello all

As some who have already noticed my TikTok I will retire from public life. My Odysee and my Insta I have already deleted. My TikTok will also be set to private during the day tomorrow and will no longer bring new content.

What about this blog? Well like I said. i want to completely withdraw from public life. That includes this blog. I will delete all posts tomorrow during the day or except for the daily blogs everything is already deleted while you are reading this. But on Monday these will be gone as well. I will leave this post here for a while so that everyone can see it but in a while I will take this offline as well.

some of you are probably asking yourselves. How can you even do this financially? You won't find a job and financially you won't have any possibilities if you delete all this. Well I already don't have any money anymore so I won't have to change much. I'm especially sorry for the paid subscriptions on TikTok because they have now unfortunately got nothing for their money. on YouTube I've always organized it so that people got their money back. that can not at TikTok but unfortunately not because there is no such function.

I would therefore like to apologize to all paid subscribers. I hope you understand and I am sorry. I have neither the desire nor the strength left to continue to fight such a hopeless battle. If the insignificance and hateful actions want to dominate our society, then I'm just glad I don't have children, because I don't want to know them in such a world. You probably think that I am weak because I surrender now.
But consider that I had to defend myself for more than 10 years alone and on lost posts day after day against more and more haters. I may be strong, I do not know. But what I do know is that even my strength has a limit. This I have now reached.

I want to live a normal life again, I want to be able to walk anonymously through the streets, go to the movies, go to the swimming pool, etc. without being permanently addressed. I just want to live a normal life. I went against my fate in the attempt to do something good and in the attempt to earn more money than I can without training. I failed.

I still thank you for all the years and hope you have a better future ahead of you than my past."
 
On Wednesday Rainer announced in a sad video that he will leave the internet. No videos, no streams, no nothing. Total Drachenlord Death! Raawwr!
On Thursday he deleted his Instagram profile and cleared his blog webpage of most of its entries.
On Friday he streamed on TikTok one last day for his paypigs. After the stream he privated his TikTok account.

R.I.P. Rainer Drachenlord Winkler. His saga has ended.

Or has it?

Of course not!

On Saturday, not even 24 hours later, his TikTok account went public again and today the first video was uploaded.



More details, videos and pictures in the German thread in this post.
 
lol, Prodeus was my game of the year for 2022 and I played through it all the way and even though I found this backer/credit level I never noticed that Drachenlord was jokingly placed on it. Amazing.
 
A second video of the last scuffle has appeared. It's from another perspective and Rainer is showing off his martial arts skills.

 
After curiously lurking Schanzenwatch telegram using google translate, I've got some random questions about Rainer that other non-German kiwis might find informative:

What do the words "Wingl/Wongl" mean? It seems like every shitposter has some variation of that in their username.

Why do people constantly reference donuts ("krapfne"?) when talking about Rainer?

What's the deal with Rainer and 'Ofenkäse' (oven cheese?)

Has Der Beck cafe become the new pilgrimage destination, given that Rainer is essentially living there at this point?

What's the talk about him planning a trip to Portugal? Is he going to follow in the footsteps of the Gunt?
 
After curiously lurking Schanzenwatch telegram using google translate, I've got some random questions about Rainer that other non-German kiwis might find informative:

What do the words "Wingl/Wongl" mean? It seems like every shitposter has some variation of that in their username.

His family name is "Winkler". If you pronounce it the slurred way Rainer talks it becomes "Wingler". Also something is off with the way he walks. People suspect one of his hips being damaged besides his weight of around 220 kg. So people started speaking of Rainer not walking but wongling.

There he goes = Da geht er entlang = Da wonglet er entlang.
Why do people constantly reference donuts ("krapfne"?) when talking about Rainer?

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That are Krapfen, at least one form of bc there are different types of them. In Southern Germany (and Austria) they are called Krapfen but in other parts of Germany say have different names. Like in Berlin they are called "Pfannkuchen".

But context of the Drachenlord saga these Krapfen are meant. You get them mostly or especially around the time of "Fasching" (kind of carneval). Rainer likes them and they appeared here and there on streams where he was eating some of them.

His trolls spell them "Krapfne" instead of "Krapfen" bc of Rainers retarded pronounciation of certain words.
What's the deal with Rainer and 'Ofenkäse' (oven cheese?)

Oven cheese once is a favourite food of Rainer, especially in the early stages of his saga. He once showed a pic from inside of his house with like dozens of empty packages and so it became just another running gag.

One of the more active trolls at the moment calls himself "Heiliger Ofenkäse" (sacred oven cheese).

Has Der Beck cafe become the new pilgrimage destination, given that Rainer is essentially living there at this point?

Every time Rainer is there a few pics or videos show up. If people try to speak to him he reacts like always and tells people to fuck off. A few weeks ago 2 videos appeared where it was later in the day and where Rainer had a scuffle with some trolls outside of the shop. So yes, people show up there to annoy Rainer but it's far away from the levels of pilgrimage we saw at his house.

What's the talk about him planning a trip to Portugal? Is he going to follow in the footsteps of the Gunt?

Last week a TikTok video from a young woman showed up where she invited him to live with her and her friend in Portugal. Not much is known about her but she seems to be a Qanon type of person.
On April 1st Rainer posted a long bitchass crazy rant on his blog post where he was talking about going to Portugal and he mentioned it a few times in his streams so far.

But noone is really expecting him to go there. Also Rainer denies that his sudden plans of going to Portugal have anything to do with that youn woman.
 
So has he done anything in the last 28 days?

Not much was going on. More or less the usual stuff. He was spotted here and there, mostly in his favourite place, a local backery shop, and some retarded streams and videos on TikTok.
His TikTok account got suspended for 7 days this week. He used another TikTok account to circumvent the suspension but only for some minor stuff. It's unknown to me if his 2nd TikTok account got suspended too or not.



But a little highlight was this video (German audio only, no English subtitles).


In the video he shows his "survival gear" and announces more "survival" videos.

His "survival gear" includes an unused shovel, a still packed rope, a tent plane, a pack of lump sogar, a pack of tea, a cheap gas cocker, an eggbeater, condoms and a wodden stick, two bottles of water and two packs of these cheap Yum Yum soups.
He has a spoon and a fork but he has no (pocket) knife with him.
He also shows a plastic bag with some meds in it and some trolls spotted Viagra pills in.

The most hilarious thing though is that he is talking about how looked for a spot in the wilderness to record this video while you can see in the background the shopping mall with the before mentioned bakery shop where he hangs around most of his time nowadays. It's like a few hundred meters away. Later in the video a nearby village can also be seen.

I would post some screen scaps but the forum doesn't let me posts pictures at the moment.



Oh, another little funny incident happend on his blog. He posted two pictures of a person he thinks is one of his main trolls. He censored the faces on both pics but the troll posted the second picture on his Instagram account and it's a picture of Sido, a quite wellknown German rapper. 2-3 years ago Rainer even streamed together with Sido.
 
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