Garamok
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Rainer "Drachenlord" Winkler - The German Youtube Sensation
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Reading this, I have to wonder how someone like Rainier even functions on a day-by-day basis. It explains why his house was a decrepit mess though.
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Even the literal mother fucking autist Chris Chan is less retarded than him.
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There hasn't been an update for some weeks now and this post isn't really an update too.
The current state of the Drachengame is that Rainer streams several times a day on TikTok, uploads several boring Let's Play video on Odysee and tries to post at least once on his blogpage. But the posts are usually like this:
"Hi
i do this today. Gib mony.
DrachneLord"
That's the state of his Odysee channel.
No one gives a flying fuck.
And the views for his TikTok streams are plummeting too. We speak about 150 actual viewers on average.
Besides some normie TikTok retards and ween retards showing up in his streams or in his chat trying to trigger him nothing happens.
So as long as nothing is really happening -like he gets at least spotted in the outside world again or he finally looses one of his legs to diabetes or he dies- I will cease to give updates.
The current state of the Drachengame is that Rainer streams several times a day on TikTok, uploads several boring Let's Play video on Odysee and tries to post at least once on his blogpage. But the posts are usually like this:
"Hi
i do this today. Gib mony.
DrachneLord"
That's the state of his Odysee channel.
No one gives a flying fuck.
And the views for his TikTok streams are plummeting too. We speak about 150 actual viewers on average.
Besides some normie TikTok retards and ween retards showing up in his streams or in his chat trying to trigger him nothing happens.
So as long as nothing is really happening -like he gets at least spotted in the outside world again or he finally looses one of his legs to diabetes or he dies- I will cease to give updates.
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Nothing new under the sun. Rainer keeps uploading Lets Play videos that nobody watches and doing TikTok streams where he constantly bleeds views and paid subscriptions.
But a very short video appeared, showing wandering around at night. Location unknown, same for the date of the recording. It must be a few months old bc he hasn't his shitty tattoo on the hand yet.
So here is fatfoot. In colours.
But a very short video appeared, showing wandering around at night. Location unknown, same for the date of the recording. It must be a few months old bc he hasn't his shitty tattoo on the hand yet.
So here is fatfoot. In colours.
Chris Chan has a college degree (even though it is just an associate degree) and a highschool diploma.
Raini doesn't even have the lowest degree possible in Germany, the Hauptschulabschluss after 9 years of school.
He can claim otherwise, his "graduation" from special needs school is not a degree in any way shape or form.
Town Crier
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I'll be visiting Germany for the first time this winter on a vacation with my fiancee. I'm not autistic enough to derail our trip by going to Emskirchen or Nuremberg, but I'm certainly going to buy some ofenkase and krapfen to see why Rainer loves them so much,
Unfortunately, my brain is busted like Boneclinks and I can't speak German. However, following the Drachenlord saga and interacting with the helpful haiders here has also taught me a bunch of expressions in German that I'm probably never going to use, such as: haggebudne, seggsschreibne?, wie bidde?, TRAUT EUCH KOMM ZU MIR, wassertiere, meddl loide, der jeniche, kotmidas and kagduschne. If I get harassed by beggars or an ogre during my travels, I'm comforted knowing that I can deescalate the situation by screaming "HALDE MAOOOOL! HAU AB! VERPISS DICH!"
Jokes aside, I'm genuinely very excited to visit Germany. With Drachenlord being one of my favorite lolcows, I've become very curious about the country and am really eager to explore it.
Unfortunately, my brain is busted like Boneclinks and I can't speak German. However, following the Drachenlord saga and interacting with the helpful haiders here has also taught me a bunch of expressions in German that I'm probably never going to use, such as: haggebudne, seggsschreibne?, wie bidde?, TRAUT EUCH KOMM ZU MIR, wassertiere, meddl loide, der jeniche, kotmidas and kagduschne. If I get harassed by beggars or an ogre during my travels, I'm comforted knowing that I can deescalate the situation by screaming "HALDE MAOOOOL! HAU AB! VERPISS DICH!"
Jokes aside, I'm genuinely very excited to visit Germany. With Drachenlord being one of my favorite lolcows, I've become very curious about the country and am really eager to explore it.
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You want to look out for these:
Depending on where you are going you might get something different if you just ask for a Krapfen bc they are not everywhere called Krapfen. Like in Berlin they are called "Pfannkuchen" or "Berliner Pfannkuchen".
Garamok
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Episode 51 subtitles finished. Video is censored for youtube, if you want the uncensored version you will have to look for it on odysee.
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Rainer has been spotted in Berlin at the side of a woman.
Not much is known about her. She too streams on TikTok, allegedly is 40 years old, seems to have multiple slcerosis and has at least one profile on a "dating" site.
Pics below, post from the German thread.
Not much is known about her. She too streams on TikTok, allegedly is 40 years old, seems to have multiple slcerosis and has at least one profile on a "dating" site.
Pics below, post from the German thread.
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Hello frens and followers of the Lord of the Dragons, long time no see. Happy new year. Before we start this new year, the year of the (wodden) dragon, we some new shenanigans let me recap what happened since the last post.
So what happened since the end of November 2023?
Well, literally nothing. Or at least nothing that would be worth mentioning. The international terror collective known as the Haiders™ decided to ignore Rainer for the whole of December. As a consequence Rainer's views and clicks didn't really change or go down bc they are already in the gutter. Rainer put out some TikTok videos that nobody archived bc they were so absolute shite, he streamed a lot but nobody watched and he tried to stir shit up with some more well known trolls by attacking them but nobody cared.
How did Rainer spent his christmas? Alone and forgotten sitting in his discord server with nobody to talk to or yell at.
But boy oh boy did things change with the new year bc Rainer came up with another banger of a plan for his future. Out of nowhere he started talking about founding a community where everybody can live truely free, experience his spirituality and most important be naked the whole fucking time (fucking is meant literally)!
Yes, Rainer wants to be a sex guru and start his own hippie community dedicated to so called Freikörperkultur, where all the members live, sleep, eat (and fuck) in one house, grow their own food, carve their own electricity and become some spiritual beings. Everyone is welcome, nobody excluded. The rich, the poor, kids, grandpas, everything goes.
Welcome to his new blog space dedicated to this new project,KRAFT DURCH FREUDE KOMMUNE DER FREIHEIT (KdF)!
The following posts will contain all his blog posts, translated with much love and patience* by me for you.
*I used DeepL
So what happened since the end of November 2023?
Well, literally nothing. Or at least nothing that would be worth mentioning. The international terror collective known as the Haiders™ decided to ignore Rainer for the whole of December. As a consequence Rainer's views and clicks didn't really change or go down bc they are already in the gutter. Rainer put out some TikTok videos that nobody archived bc they were so absolute shite, he streamed a lot but nobody watched and he tried to stir shit up with some more well known trolls by attacking them but nobody cared.
How did Rainer spent his christmas? Alone and forgotten sitting in his discord server with nobody to talk to or yell at.
But boy oh boy did things change with the new year bc Rainer came up with another banger of a plan for his future. Out of nowhere he started talking about founding a community where everybody can live truely free, experience his spirituality and most important be naked the whole fucking time (fucking is meant literally)!
Yes, Rainer wants to be a sex guru and start his own hippie community dedicated to so called Freikörperkultur, where all the members live, sleep, eat (and fuck) in one house, grow their own food, carve their own electricity and become some spiritual beings. Everyone is welcome, nobody excluded. The rich, the poor, kids, grandpas, everything goes.
Welcome to his new blog space dedicated to this new project,
The following posts will contain all his blog posts, translated with much love and patience* by me for you.
*I used DeepL
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The following text is in fact one large blog post but I split it up and spoilered it.
A lot of spelling and grammar mistakes got lost through the translation. I myself did not alter anything in English translation.
I include the links to the original blog although the texts there are in German language. But just in case you are curious.
THE IDEA OF YOUR OWN COMMUNE!!!
bei Drache Dezember 29, 2023
To summarize, I think that's the most important thing for now. But as I said, there will be more posts in the coming days, one or two per day, in which I will address many other points, so please don't judge too quickly.
Comments and feed Beck welcome.
Your Dragon
A lot of spelling and grammar mistakes got lost through the translation. I myself did not alter anything in English translation.
I include the links to the original blog although the texts there are in German language. But just in case you are curious.
THE IDEA OF YOUR OWN COMMUNE!!!
bei Drache Dezember 29, 2023
Your own commune?
Hello everyone, first of all: Yes, this blog is about the idea that has been on my mind for years and that I have been thinking about and working on more and more in recent months. Nevertheless, I would like to start at the very beginning. What exactly is a commune anyway? It's a term that not everyone can relate to. A commune is nothing more than a municipality. I've only had the basic idea for a few years now, but some of the things I'm going to write about in detail have been with me since I was a child. Even if I didn't think about using them in the form of my own commune.
Hello everyone, first of all: Yes, this blog is about the idea that has been on my mind for years and that I have been thinking about and working on more and more in recent months. Nevertheless, I would like to start at the very beginning. What exactly is a commune anyway? It's a term that not everyone can relate to. A commune is nothing more than a municipality. I've only had the basic idea for a few years now, but some of the things I'm going to write about in detail have been with me since I was a child. Even if I didn't think about using them in the form of my own commune.
But now to the basic form of the idea.
I want to set up my own commune. Yes, there is a lot to think about, and in this and the following posts I will repeat, address and explain many things. Questions or ideas are welcome, but keep in mind that I have been holding on to this idea for many years and have therefore put a lot of thought into it. Also, since there will not only be this post, but others to follow, the points you have considered may come up in later posts. So please be patient. Before I publish this post, I will write others and publish one or two of them every day.
The community I want to found should be as self-sufficient as possible. This means that food, wood and the like should ideally be grown and/or processed in-house. Such projects are not uncommon in communities. However, as many know, I am also someone who is not happy with how uptight many people still are today, especially in relation to issues such as homosexuality, bisexuality, polyamory or general sexual freedom. (The list could logically be even longer.) I would therefore also like to focus on this in the community project, as well as nudism. Other things to consider are the location where you can build such a community and what you need for it, such as houses, tools, barns, stables, animals, etc. (As I said, I will gradually go into all the points you are wondering about).
I want to set up my own commune. Yes, there is a lot to think about, and in this and the following posts I will repeat, address and explain many things. Questions or ideas are welcome, but keep in mind that I have been holding on to this idea for many years and have therefore put a lot of thought into it. Also, since there will not only be this post, but others to follow, the points you have considered may come up in later posts. So please be patient. Before I publish this post, I will write others and publish one or two of them every day.
The community I want to found should be as self-sufficient as possible. This means that food, wood and the like should ideally be grown and/or processed in-house. Such projects are not uncommon in communities. However, as many know, I am also someone who is not happy with how uptight many people still are today, especially in relation to issues such as homosexuality, bisexuality, polyamory or general sexual freedom. (The list could logically be even longer.) I would therefore also like to focus on this in the community project, as well as nudism. Other things to consider are the location where you can build such a community and what you need for it, such as houses, tools, barns, stables, animals, etc. (As I said, I will gradually go into all the points you are wondering about).
Let's start with self-sufficiency.
With the commune, I also have the goal of being as self-sufficient as possible.
Self-sufficiency is a difficult issue, especially in communities like this. You have to get some things from outside. It is certainly difficult, especially in the early days, and it may take some time until a community is largely ready for self-sufficiency. A good point in this context is, of course, the start of the season. So it's best to start setting up such a community in spring or shortly before spring so that you can get the food supply ready to go, for example. I'm thinking of animals such as cows and pigs, for example, but also fish or crops. There is a lot to think about. I grew up in the countryside, so I know how hard the work is and what it takes. But also how beautiful it is to see things grow and develop.
However, food supply is only one part of self-sufficiency. You also need wood in winter, as well as a few other things. Therefore, you need a variety of different people for such a project, who ideally should all have different experiences and/or skills in the respective professions. (A willingness to learn new things is also important.) From people who are familiar with field work to animal husbandry. But not only that. Forestry work or craftsmen are also needed for such a project. For my part, as I said, I grew up on a farm and therefore learned various things from an early age. I think there are many others for whom this is similar. (I would write a more specific post on this though).
That's basic self-sufficiency for now.
With the commune, I also have the goal of being as self-sufficient as possible.
Self-sufficiency is a difficult issue, especially in communities like this. You have to get some things from outside. It is certainly difficult, especially in the early days, and it may take some time until a community is largely ready for self-sufficiency. A good point in this context is, of course, the start of the season. So it's best to start setting up such a community in spring or shortly before spring so that you can get the food supply ready to go, for example. I'm thinking of animals such as cows and pigs, for example, but also fish or crops. There is a lot to think about. I grew up in the countryside, so I know how hard the work is and what it takes. But also how beautiful it is to see things grow and develop.
However, food supply is only one part of self-sufficiency. You also need wood in winter, as well as a few other things. Therefore, you need a variety of different people for such a project, who ideally should all have different experiences and/or skills in the respective professions. (A willingness to learn new things is also important.) From people who are familiar with field work to animal husbandry. But not only that. Forestry work or craftsmen are also needed for such a project. For my part, as I said, I grew up on a farm and therefore learned various things from an early age. I think there are many others for whom this is similar. (I would write a more specific post on this though).
That's basic self-sufficiency for now.
Things that would/must come from outside.
No country has everything. That's how trade came about. Even in the past, people had to trade to get different things or get rid of surplus goods. That is basically the origin of money. I would like to say right away that I have no intention of taking advantage of anyone. I am mentioning this because the following could otherwise be misunderstood.
Money should not play a role within the community. That probably sounds ridiculous to the majority of people. Nevertheless, I want to explain it to you. (I also don't know who has already read or read up on municipalities). The system of a self-sufficient community is basically quite simple. You do everything collectively, which means you work together and eat together. And you do it from the things you have produced yourself. So far everything is clear. Within the community that I am planning or striving for, everyone is busy with the respective tasks that they have according to their knowledge and talent. Everyone is good at something different and so everyone is an important part without whom it wouldn't work.
This means that someone who repairs things, for example, does not work in the field. In the normal world (I know, stupidly expressed) he would get money for his work, which he can spend to buy food, for example. Within the community it's not necessary, because he's provided for because he's doing something that nobody else is doing. In the same way, others do something that he can't or doesn't do. (I know, a silly statement for anyone to make since it's obvious. But I'm being thorough.)
Still, money is needed, because unfortunately it doesn't work without it.
A commune or community needs a plan and more importantly its own system that makes decisions. For example, a council of elders or community council (whatever you want to call it). This council also manages the money. Electricity, water and internet are just three of the things that need to be sourced from outside (although water and electricity can be sourced in other ways). (I will write about this in more detail in another post).
Other things would be fuel for vehicles and machines, for example, if they are needed. I will also write more about this in another post. But just to get it out in the open,
I don't want to have to do without certain amenities altogether. Electricity, water and internet should be available. I need two of the three mentioned above for my work alone. And yes, I would continue to do my work.
However, there are two reasons for this. Firstly, I also earn money with my job, and not a little, so ideally a municipality would have a little more security. (at least from a financial point of view) and secondly.
In my job, I have more than enough opportunities to help out anywhere else. For example, in the fields or (possibly) in animal husbandry. I grew up with both. I'm not as experienced as some people might be, but I know what I'm doing.
I also know how to use different tools. Besides me, there might also be two others working to earn money. Of course, it always depends on how much I earn. You have to look into that and then clarify it within the community. (I'm bringing this up mainly to show that I've also thought about it). I can help out with other work in the community despite my job because I can organize my time and therefore have more time as I won't have the commute to a forma, for example.
No country has everything. That's how trade came about. Even in the past, people had to trade to get different things or get rid of surplus goods. That is basically the origin of money. I would like to say right away that I have no intention of taking advantage of anyone. I am mentioning this because the following could otherwise be misunderstood.
Money should not play a role within the community. That probably sounds ridiculous to the majority of people. Nevertheless, I want to explain it to you. (I also don't know who has already read or read up on municipalities). The system of a self-sufficient community is basically quite simple. You do everything collectively, which means you work together and eat together. And you do it from the things you have produced yourself. So far everything is clear. Within the community that I am planning or striving for, everyone is busy with the respective tasks that they have according to their knowledge and talent. Everyone is good at something different and so everyone is an important part without whom it wouldn't work.
This means that someone who repairs things, for example, does not work in the field. In the normal world (I know, stupidly expressed) he would get money for his work, which he can spend to buy food, for example. Within the community it's not necessary, because he's provided for because he's doing something that nobody else is doing. In the same way, others do something that he can't or doesn't do. (I know, a silly statement for anyone to make since it's obvious. But I'm being thorough.)
Still, money is needed, because unfortunately it doesn't work without it.
A commune or community needs a plan and more importantly its own system that makes decisions. For example, a council of elders or community council (whatever you want to call it). This council also manages the money. Electricity, water and internet are just three of the things that need to be sourced from outside (although water and electricity can be sourced in other ways). (I will write about this in more detail in another post).
Other things would be fuel for vehicles and machines, for example, if they are needed. I will also write more about this in another post. But just to get it out in the open,
I don't want to have to do without certain amenities altogether. Electricity, water and internet should be available. I need two of the three mentioned above for my work alone. And yes, I would continue to do my work.
However, there are two reasons for this. Firstly, I also earn money with my job, and not a little, so ideally a municipality would have a little more security. (at least from a financial point of view) and secondly.
In my job, I have more than enough opportunities to help out anywhere else. For example, in the fields or (possibly) in animal husbandry. I grew up with both. I'm not as experienced as some people might be, but I know what I'm doing.
I also know how to use different tools. Besides me, there might also be two others working to earn money. Of course, it always depends on how much I earn. You have to look into that and then clarify it within the community. (I'm bringing this up mainly to show that I've also thought about it). I can help out with other work in the community despite my job because I can organize my time and therefore have more time as I won't have the commute to a forma, for example.
Personal possession.
Well, this is similar to the possession of money. Of course, the following is only an example, but it could be applied to all material objects. Everyone should be able to have a TV and PC as well as a cell phone. (Or access to them.) (The question is how to regulate this with cell phone billing, or if you get rid of cell phones altogether and only have a normal phone, either way, I haven't given it the slightest thought so far). I would want to store DVDs and Blu-rays as well as books in a kind of video library room, for example. Where anyone can help themselves at any time, of course. Of course, everyone would have to bring it back, but it would be free to use!
Where do you get them? Well, everyone who joins the community has different things that they bring to the community. So you can take this together.
As I said, this is just an example. Everyone within the community has to contribute. That's how it should work, that everyone shares everything. At least that's the basic idea.
Well, this is similar to the possession of money. Of course, the following is only an example, but it could be applied to all material objects. Everyone should be able to have a TV and PC as well as a cell phone. (Or access to them.) (The question is how to regulate this with cell phone billing, or if you get rid of cell phones altogether and only have a normal phone, either way, I haven't given it the slightest thought so far). I would want to store DVDs and Blu-rays as well as books in a kind of video library room, for example. Where anyone can help themselves at any time, of course. Of course, everyone would have to bring it back, but it would be free to use!
Where do you get them? Well, everyone who joins the community has different things that they bring to the community. So you can take this together.
As I said, this is just an example. Everyone within the community has to contribute. That's how it should work, that everyone shares everything. At least that's the basic idea.
Free Body Culture (FKK)
Anyone who knows me is probably not exactly thrilled by the idea of seeing me naked. I can even understand it, even if I don't share the view of others. The free body culture, or nudism for short, is something I came into contact with early on. And something I still enjoy doing today. Unfortunately, I hardly know any people who are also enthusiastic about it.
In my eyes, clothing has two purposes. It keeps you warm or cool. And it's there for protection. (That was three points?) Actually, it was only one. Clothing should protect. Both from heat and cold and from injuries. That's the basic idea. Nowadays, people wear clothes for charm and for aesthetic reasons. Both points that I cannot understand.
(Which, by the way, leads to envy and arguments, not only but especially in schools).
Besides, being naked is the natural state. For us humans and healthier too. Many sleep in underwear or even pyjamas. The joke is. Everything that has an elastic band is unhealthy. Especially when you sleep, where you move less. The reason for this is that the elastic prevents the blood vessels from being properly supplied with blood. Not exactly the best way to sleep. For my part, I have been sleeping naked for years, with a few exceptions.
How exactly would nudism work within the community?
For my part, I would leave it up to each individual how and when he or she is naked. (However, it goes without saying that it is more or less compulsory. The reason for this statement is, as you can imagine. There are always people who like to look but don't trust themselves).
Basically, as I said, clothing is intended as protection and partly also for hygiene. Clothing should therefore only be worn where it is needed. For example, at work where you could injure yourself or where hygiene is required. For example (not a must) cooking.
Otherwise, I would prefer nudism, so that goes without saying.
Anyone who knows me is probably not exactly thrilled by the idea of seeing me naked. I can even understand it, even if I don't share the view of others. The free body culture, or nudism for short, is something I came into contact with early on. And something I still enjoy doing today. Unfortunately, I hardly know any people who are also enthusiastic about it.
In my eyes, clothing has two purposes. It keeps you warm or cool. And it's there for protection. (That was three points?) Actually, it was only one. Clothing should protect. Both from heat and cold and from injuries. That's the basic idea. Nowadays, people wear clothes for charm and for aesthetic reasons. Both points that I cannot understand.
(Which, by the way, leads to envy and arguments, not only but especially in schools).
Besides, being naked is the natural state. For us humans and healthier too. Many sleep in underwear or even pyjamas. The joke is. Everything that has an elastic band is unhealthy. Especially when you sleep, where you move less. The reason for this is that the elastic prevents the blood vessels from being properly supplied with blood. Not exactly the best way to sleep. For my part, I have been sleeping naked for years, with a few exceptions.
How exactly would nudism work within the community?
For my part, I would leave it up to each individual how and when he or she is naked. (However, it goes without saying that it is more or less compulsory. The reason for this statement is, as you can imagine. There are always people who like to look but don't trust themselves).
Basically, as I said, clothing is intended as protection and partly also for hygiene. Clothing should therefore only be worn where it is needed. For example, at work where you could injure yourself or where hygiene is required. For example (not a must) cooking.
Otherwise, I would prefer nudism, so that goes without saying.
Free love
Something you've been hearing more and more about in recent years is polyamory. The word is clickable and you can read up on what it means if you want. So for the commune, I would prefer to have people of different genders and sexualities. But what would stand in the way of the concept of free love would be a few individual points. (But of course you don't want to discriminate against anyone.) That would be monogamy, of course. (The word is also clickable if required.) Then asexual people and the like. (As I said, I don't want to discriminate against anyone, on the contrary.) Nevertheless, people who only lead or strive for a monogamous relationship are rather wrong in such a community. This point will also need to be discussed in more detail and, above all, planned.
Something you've been hearing more and more about in recent years is polyamory. The word is clickable and you can read up on what it means if you want. So for the commune, I would prefer to have people of different genders and sexualities. But what would stand in the way of the concept of free love would be a few individual points. (But of course you don't want to discriminate against anyone.) That would be monogamy, of course. (The word is also clickable if required.) Then asexual people and the like. (As I said, I don't want to discriminate against anyone, on the contrary.) Nevertheless, people who only lead or strive for a monogamous relationship are rather wrong in such a community. This point will also need to be discussed in more detail and, above all, planned.
Property Building and location.
I would like to divide this section into three points. I would start with the location.
I would like to divide this section into three points. I would start with the location.
Location?
The location is something that still gives me the most stomach ache. On the one hand, I would like to do it in Germany. On the other hand, because of my haters, health insurance for community members and similar things, I'd like to do it abroad. Maybe Italy, Spain or Portugal. There's a lot to be said for that. But for me personally, there are also some contradictions. Starting with the laws. I'm not an expert on laws in Germany either, but I've lived here all my life and know at least the basics. Many things can (not necessarily) be different abroad. One example is nudism in Germany, which is generally regulated by law, but it is also tolerated. At least in part. So within a community where some of the rules come from the community itself, it is feasible. But there are also other issues. For example, as just mentioned, compulsory health insurance. Founding a village, i.e. a commune (municipality), is also associated with legal matters. I am not at all familiar with this, for example. In Germany, however, there are others who may be able to cope with this afterwards. Abroad, on the other hand, you have to learn everything or a lot from scratch.
Then there's the language barrier, which I might be able to cope with, but others might not. (I myself only speak German and a little English and even less other languages like Italian or Japanese). As I said, it's generally not easy. And, as I said at the beginning, you have to consider a lot.
The location is something that still gives me the most stomach ache. On the one hand, I would like to do it in Germany. On the other hand, because of my haters, health insurance for community members and similar things, I'd like to do it abroad. Maybe Italy, Spain or Portugal. There's a lot to be said for that. But for me personally, there are also some contradictions. Starting with the laws. I'm not an expert on laws in Germany either, but I've lived here all my life and know at least the basics. Many things can (not necessarily) be different abroad. One example is nudism in Germany, which is generally regulated by law, but it is also tolerated. At least in part. So within a community where some of the rules come from the community itself, it is feasible. But there are also other issues. For example, as just mentioned, compulsory health insurance. Founding a village, i.e. a commune (municipality), is also associated with legal matters. I am not at all familiar with this, for example. In Germany, however, there are others who may be able to cope with this afterwards. Abroad, on the other hand, you have to learn everything or a lot from scratch.
Then there's the language barrier, which I might be able to cope with, but others might not. (I myself only speak German and a little English and even less other languages like Italian or Japanese). As I said, it's generally not easy. And, as I said at the beginning, you have to consider a lot.
Building
Buildings and land are somehow connected. Nevertheless, I am deliberately starting with the building.
I would say that, depending on the number of people living in the community, you definitely need different numbers of residential buildings. To be honest, I have various thoughts on this.
I would start by thinking about one house. In the beginning, I'm thinking of about 24 people living in the commune. Now that free love and nudism are planned/desired for the commune, I have the idea of having a kind of dormitory, for example, in which 6 or perhaps more people can sleep. With 6 per room, there would be a total of 4 rooms needed for sleeping. That would be enough for a house with a large shared bathroom, a large kitchen and perhaps a large shared room. I also had another thought, namely that you could also have a large room in which you could install a projector, for example, where you could have meetings as well as movie nights and the like from time to time. Just communal activities.
There are many options for this.
I think two houses would be enough for 24 people in total. At least to start with. But of course you need more buildings. It also depends on what you want. I would definitely try to keep various animals such as chickens, sheep, pigs and cows. Pigeons, geese and rabbits are also a good idea. Of course, you also need appropriate buildings for these as well as enclosures for them to run around in. Then you also need a barn and storehouse or something where you can store things like oats, grain and other foodstuffs. Which is also a bit difficult because of vermin and many other things. A small wind or water mill would also be useful.
Tents?! I've been thinking that in addition to the buildings I've already described, you could set up a corner where you can put up large tents. Maybe not quite as big tepees, but in a similar style to the Native Americans. There are various reasons for this. If you want to be close to nature, this is always a good idea. The idea can of course be spun even further in the group, just as an idea. But I would prefer to make my own tents, not what you can buy in the store. You can then also add your own ideas.
Buildings and land are somehow connected. Nevertheless, I am deliberately starting with the building.
I would say that, depending on the number of people living in the community, you definitely need different numbers of residential buildings. To be honest, I have various thoughts on this.
I would start by thinking about one house. In the beginning, I'm thinking of about 24 people living in the commune. Now that free love and nudism are planned/desired for the commune, I have the idea of having a kind of dormitory, for example, in which 6 or perhaps more people can sleep. With 6 per room, there would be a total of 4 rooms needed for sleeping. That would be enough for a house with a large shared bathroom, a large kitchen and perhaps a large shared room. I also had another thought, namely that you could also have a large room in which you could install a projector, for example, where you could have meetings as well as movie nights and the like from time to time. Just communal activities.
There are many options for this.
I think two houses would be enough for 24 people in total. At least to start with. But of course you need more buildings. It also depends on what you want. I would definitely try to keep various animals such as chickens, sheep, pigs and cows. Pigeons, geese and rabbits are also a good idea. Of course, you also need appropriate buildings for these as well as enclosures for them to run around in. Then you also need a barn and storehouse or something where you can store things like oats, grain and other foodstuffs. Which is also a bit difficult because of vermin and many other things. A small wind or water mill would also be useful.
Tents?! I've been thinking that in addition to the buildings I've already described, you could set up a corner where you can put up large tents. Maybe not quite as big tepees, but in a similar style to the Native Americans. There are various reasons for this. If you want to be close to nature, this is always a good idea. The idea can of course be spun even further in the group, just as an idea. But I would prefer to make my own tents, not what you can buy in the store. You can then also add your own ideas.
Plot of land
As you can see, the location and the buildings are already half-finished. Of course there's more to it, but that's the rough plan. Of course, you also need land in the community so that you can grow crops, keep animals and, of course, have a forest for wood. Should you want that! I have an additional idea for the tents. Where you also need a place, but where you can also set up a fireplace, for example, where you can set up tents and the like. If you also want to have fish, do you also need a pond or something similar?
As you can see, I have a lot of thoughts.
As you can see, the location and the buildings are already half-finished. Of course there's more to it, but that's the rough plan. Of course, you also need land in the community so that you can grow crops, keep animals and, of course, have a forest for wood. Should you want that! I have an additional idea for the tents. Where you also need a place, but where you can also set up a fireplace, for example, where you can set up tents and the like. If you also want to have fish, do you also need a pond or something similar?
As you can see, I have a lot of thoughts.
Children in the commune?
In a commune where nudism and free love are practiced, the question is of course what about children and young people. I don't know exactly what the rules are with nudism and children. I have friends and even in my youth there was no talk about it, but children and teenagers were also allowed to participate in nudism as normal (for example on the beach or lake). Ultimately, it's nothing unusual for a child, especially if they grow up with it.
I don't know how it is regulated by law, I haven't looked into it yet. There are similar and comparable municipalities. Especially when it comes to nudism, lakes and beaches or even camping are not unusual. I can't tell you the legal consequences so far because I haven't dealt with the subject.
As far as free love is concerned, I don't think I need to say anything. Children are kept away from it, period. If anything like that happens, the police will of course be informed and the person will be handed over to the authorities, and the person will be banned from the community for life. That should go without saying anyway.
As far as the work on the farm is concerned, the children should help out here and there, depending on their age and abilities, but of course they should not be obliged to work. Child labor is a punishable offense, but apart from that, children need to know how to do things here and there. If, as adults, they feel the need to continue living in the community.
School? That, in turn, might be a somewhat difficult point. School is compulsory in Germany. But I don't have a good experience with the school system myself. (I'm only talking about the learning system, not classmates.) But don't get me wrong. School is important, especially if the children later want to leave the community to work somewhere, but even in the community it will happen here and there that you need at least some of the things. I also find reading and writing important, just like math, even if I don't like it. But other things like history are also important. I think mistakes are always repeated if you don't learn from the past. So that's important too. Just like other things.
The only question now is whether you send (have to send) children to school outside the community or whether, if you have people within the community who are allowed to teach, the community really does have a kind of small school. As I said, the children also need an education - the question is how this is regulated. Both legally and at school. Perhaps someone is familiar with this and we can plan for when the community is actually founded.
In a commune where nudism and free love are practiced, the question is of course what about children and young people. I don't know exactly what the rules are with nudism and children. I have friends and even in my youth there was no talk about it, but children and teenagers were also allowed to participate in nudism as normal (for example on the beach or lake). Ultimately, it's nothing unusual for a child, especially if they grow up with it.
I don't know how it is regulated by law, I haven't looked into it yet. There are similar and comparable municipalities. Especially when it comes to nudism, lakes and beaches or even camping are not unusual. I can't tell you the legal consequences so far because I haven't dealt with the subject.
As far as free love is concerned, I don't think I need to say anything. Children are kept away from it, period. If anything like that happens, the police will of course be informed and the person will be handed over to the authorities, and the person will be banned from the community for life. That should go without saying anyway.
As far as the work on the farm is concerned, the children should help out here and there, depending on their age and abilities, but of course they should not be obliged to work. Child labor is a punishable offense, but apart from that, children need to know how to do things here and there. If, as adults, they feel the need to continue living in the community.
School? That, in turn, might be a somewhat difficult point. School is compulsory in Germany. But I don't have a good experience with the school system myself. (I'm only talking about the learning system, not classmates.) But don't get me wrong. School is important, especially if the children later want to leave the community to work somewhere, but even in the community it will happen here and there that you need at least some of the things. I also find reading and writing important, just like math, even if I don't like it. But other things like history are also important. I think mistakes are always repeated if you don't learn from the past. So that's important too. Just like other things.
The only question now is whether you send (have to send) children to school outside the community or whether, if you have people within the community who are allowed to teach, the community really does have a kind of small school. As I said, the children also need an education - the question is how this is regulated. Both legally and at school. Perhaps someone is familiar with this and we can plan for when the community is actually founded.
Activities away from work?!
Let's come to another perhaps interesting point. Life is not just about working. In my opinion, you should work to live but not without living. In other words, work should not take up the whole day. Of course, especially if you work on a farm, there is always something to do, but you should also sit down to have a drink, eat something, play with the children or simply relax.
I have therefore thought about trying to create different places for activities. For the summer, for example, I would suggest having a swimming pond. Or something similar. A festival meadow where you could have a summer spring or fall festival, for example. I've already said that I'm also thinking about a campsite where you could set up a nice big fire pit where you can sit together in the evening and relax, talk to each other and do other things.
As described above, I have thought about a room where we can gather as a community if necessary to discuss important issues that affect everyone. But also movie evenings, game evenings or the like. Just a room where you can do something even in bad weather.
Of course, you can also have parties from time to time, for example to celebrate the harvest or something similar, but you can also use the festival meadow or the fairground. And I'm sure you have lots of ideas too. After all, life is not just about work.
Let's come to another perhaps interesting point. Life is not just about working. In my opinion, you should work to live but not without living. In other words, work should not take up the whole day. Of course, especially if you work on a farm, there is always something to do, but you should also sit down to have a drink, eat something, play with the children or simply relax.
I have therefore thought about trying to create different places for activities. For the summer, for example, I would suggest having a swimming pond. Or something similar. A festival meadow where you could have a summer spring or fall festival, for example. I've already said that I'm also thinking about a campsite where you could set up a nice big fire pit where you can sit together in the evening and relax, talk to each other and do other things.
As described above, I have thought about a room where we can gather as a community if necessary to discuss important issues that affect everyone. But also movie evenings, game evenings or the like. Just a room where you can do something even in bad weather.
Of course, you can also have parties from time to time, for example to celebrate the harvest or something similar, but you can also use the festival meadow or the fairground. And I'm sure you have lots of ideas too. After all, life is not just about work.
Religion?!
Yes, my personal demon. I am an atheist, or at least I call myself one. I have a belief but none that exists as a religion. Hence atheist. But one or the other will probably belong to a faith. I personally believe that religion tends to cause arguments. Therefore, religion in the community is rather unimportant to me personally. I would handle it in such a way that everyone can and may believe what they want. But people who actively go to churches, mosques or other religious institutions are probably a bit difficult. On the other hand, such people will probably not be interested in the project anyway.
Yes, my personal demon. I am an atheist, or at least I call myself one. I have a belief but none that exists as a religion. Hence atheist. But one or the other will probably belong to a faith. I personally believe that religion tends to cause arguments. Therefore, religion in the community is rather unimportant to me personally. I would handle it in such a way that everyone can and may believe what they want. But people who actively go to churches, mosques or other religious institutions are probably a bit difficult. On the other hand, such people will probably not be interested in the project anyway.
To summarize, I think that's the most important thing for now. But as I said, there will be more posts in the coming days, one or two per day, in which I will address many other points, so please don't judge too quickly.
Comments and feed Beck welcome.
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THE BEGINNING
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Land Location Buildings
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People for the community
Every community stands and falls with its residents. Without a group of people who live or want to live in the community, there is no chance that the project can be implemented at all. But what are the requirements for moving into such a community? What is expected and what do you need to be able to do?
Basically, you don't need to be able to do anything. Everyone has some kind of experience, be it in cooking, crafts, animal husbandry, agriculture or other areas. The most important thing is to have a group that is as large as possible, but not too large and, above all, made up of as many different people as possible.
I would now like to end this section here and say.
Thank you for your interest and I am pleased that you have looked at it.
Your Dragon
Every community stands and falls with its residents. Without a group of people who live or want to live in the community, there is no chance that the project can be implemented at all. But what are the requirements for moving into such a community? What is expected and what do you need to be able to do?
Basically, you don't need to be able to do anything. Everyone has some kind of experience, be it in cooking, crafts, animal husbandry, agriculture or other areas. The most important thing is to have a group that is as large as possible, but not too large and, above all, made up of as many different people as possible.
The three pillars of the municipality
The three pillars of this commune are, so to speak, the things I would like to see in the commune. The first is self-sufficiency. One of the trickiest points here is that self-sufficiency is always a question of what you need. Of course, food and water supplies are at the top of the list. But things like electricity are also important. Depending on the size of the self-sufficiency, gasoline for any vehicles is also important, as well as many other less important things. And the more people, the more things you need, especially food.
Next would be nudism (naturism). This is important to me personally for various reasons. Even as a child and teenager, I had experiences such as bathing naked with friends or simply lying naked on the grass in the meadows. For me, that was one of the epitomes of freedom. Unfortunately, as I got older, I lost touch with it and only reconnected with it around 15 years later. But unfortunately never again as free and carefree as back then, as nobody in my immediate environment had and/or has any interest in it.
And the third point is spirituality. However, this point should be multifaceted. This means that spirituality means something different for everyone. For me, it is the flow of energy. This is neither positive nor negative, but what we as individuals make of it. We all live on several different levels: the physical world and the spiritual world. But many do not realize the latter. It is divided into even more levels, but I would create a post for that. To get back on topic, for some, spirituality is the belief they have in gods, for example, or the belief they have in other things in the universe. Basically, everyone has the right to live out their spiritual freedom as they wish. You can also support each other in this, for example. Yesterday in the stream, for example, someone said that he could teach tai chi, which also goes hand in hand with mental relaxation. For my part, I like to meditate. I just have one request for anyone watching this who might be interested: If it is clear that someone is not interested in your kind of spiritual world, that is accepted. I, for one, am not interested in gods and don't want to be constantly bothered by them. I'm sure others find my way just as creepy. ACCEPTANCE is the motto.
So much for the three pillars of the municipality. Then there are others that build on them. Should they be called crossbeams? Oh, today it's getting philosophical.
One of the crossbeams, for example, is the communal activities, such as having dinner together - in the morning and at lunchtime, of course. Simply the time you spend together, or to put it in one word: community. Some of my haters always make fun of things that I start. For example, they often make fun of my preference for sex. Many in this hater community are either too prudish or simply grew up in a different situation. I'm sure some are also simply influenced by culturally different views. Therefore, another crossbar is free love. Love between same-sex couples in particular, or between partners in general, is often perceived as abnormal. Despite modern times and a much higher level of tolerance, there are still too many people who are upset about this and don't understand it. Free love, be it between same-sex or different genders, even polyamory, is something that many not only do not understand, but also stubbornly refuse to understand.
That's why this is also an important point for me: as a bisexual man who also wants to live freely, I don't want to constantly justify why I am the way I am. This is who I am and that's it. I imagine that there are many others who also have problems with this. There is also more to the point of "free love". Another aspect is living as far away from cities or larger villages as possible. For me at least, freedom begins with taking a deep breath and the quiet sounds of nature. Be it animals, the wind in the leaves and grass, or water in a stream. I also love things like rain or thunderstorms and could just sit there for hours, lost in thought, listening to the sounds without constantly hearing a horn, a car or other people shouting in general.
The three pillars of this commune are, so to speak, the things I would like to see in the commune. The first is self-sufficiency. One of the trickiest points here is that self-sufficiency is always a question of what you need. Of course, food and water supplies are at the top of the list. But things like electricity are also important. Depending on the size of the self-sufficiency, gasoline for any vehicles is also important, as well as many other less important things. And the more people, the more things you need, especially food.
Next would be nudism (naturism). This is important to me personally for various reasons. Even as a child and teenager, I had experiences such as bathing naked with friends or simply lying naked on the grass in the meadows. For me, that was one of the epitomes of freedom. Unfortunately, as I got older, I lost touch with it and only reconnected with it around 15 years later. But unfortunately never again as free and carefree as back then, as nobody in my immediate environment had and/or has any interest in it.
And the third point is spirituality. However, this point should be multifaceted. This means that spirituality means something different for everyone. For me, it is the flow of energy. This is neither positive nor negative, but what we as individuals make of it. We all live on several different levels: the physical world and the spiritual world. But many do not realize the latter. It is divided into even more levels, but I would create a post for that. To get back on topic, for some, spirituality is the belief they have in gods, for example, or the belief they have in other things in the universe. Basically, everyone has the right to live out their spiritual freedom as they wish. You can also support each other in this, for example. Yesterday in the stream, for example, someone said that he could teach tai chi, which also goes hand in hand with mental relaxation. For my part, I like to meditate. I just have one request for anyone watching this who might be interested: If it is clear that someone is not interested in your kind of spiritual world, that is accepted. I, for one, am not interested in gods and don't want to be constantly bothered by them. I'm sure others find my way just as creepy. ACCEPTANCE is the motto.
So much for the three pillars of the municipality. Then there are others that build on them. Should they be called crossbeams? Oh, today it's getting philosophical.
One of the crossbeams, for example, is the communal activities, such as having dinner together - in the morning and at lunchtime, of course. Simply the time you spend together, or to put it in one word: community. Some of my haters always make fun of things that I start. For example, they often make fun of my preference for sex. Many in this hater community are either too prudish or simply grew up in a different situation. I'm sure some are also simply influenced by culturally different views. Therefore, another crossbar is free love. Love between same-sex couples in particular, or between partners in general, is often perceived as abnormal. Despite modern times and a much higher level of tolerance, there are still too many people who are upset about this and don't understand it. Free love, be it between same-sex or different genders, even polyamory, is something that many not only do not understand, but also stubbornly refuse to understand.
That's why this is also an important point for me: as a bisexual man who also wants to live freely, I don't want to constantly justify why I am the way I am. This is who I am and that's it. I imagine that there are many others who also have problems with this. There is also more to the point of "free love". Another aspect is living as far away from cities or larger villages as possible. For me at least, freedom begins with taking a deep breath and the quiet sounds of nature. Be it animals, the wind in the leaves and grass, or water in a stream. I also love things like rain or thunderstorms and could just sit there for hours, lost in thought, listening to the sounds without constantly hearing a horn, a car or other people shouting in general.
Now to the people.
We in the municipality are looking for people of various kinds for the project. Previous experience is not essential at the moment, but could be an advantage. However, they are not the most important criteria. One experience that you should already have, however, concerns the basic principles. Hence the explanation: it would be an advantage to have experience with nudism and at least feel comfortable naked in the presence of other people. However, it is not absolutely necessary, as in my experience it is not as uncomfortable as many people think, as everyone involved is naked. Nevertheless, it is advisable to have perhaps already taken part in a nude hike or done some nudist camping for a while where you are permanently naked. This way you can find out whether you feel comfortable with it.
It would also be good if everyone has experience in a few different areas, e.g. cooking, gardening or dealing with animals. After all, you want to be a self-sufficient community and need as little outside help as possible. Skilled craftspeople would also be an advantage, as you will probably have to do a lot of work on the property at the beginning, depending on which property you end up looking for or finding. In addition, some people should also have an idea of numbers, so that if you have to deal with the outside world - i.e. the state - in terms of taxes, insurance and the like, you have someone or several people who can take care of it. In addition, if you really implement the idea of a campsite, people could go on vacation there and the municipality could also earn some extra money.
Another thing that should also be open is physical desire. I don't want to go into too much detail at the moment, otherwise it will just be misunderstood again. But I will say this much: it's not just about satisfying physical desires, it also has spiritual implications if you fully engage in it. Free love really means that it's not just about sex. Polyamory, for example, involves emotionally loving multiple people, not just one other person. The monogamous relationship concept is always about two people; regardless of sex, there are only two people in the relationship. However, free love should be more than just physical lust, but should also include the spiritual. Physical closeness also creates emotional closeness if you are willing to engage in it.
To address this point in more detail: Monogamy is all well and good, but I think someone seeking such a relationship is in the wrong place in such a commune. Being open to new things and willing to try things out is good. But you should try to find out whether you can cope with it.
We in the municipality are looking for people of various kinds for the project. Previous experience is not essential at the moment, but could be an advantage. However, they are not the most important criteria. One experience that you should already have, however, concerns the basic principles. Hence the explanation: it would be an advantage to have experience with nudism and at least feel comfortable naked in the presence of other people. However, it is not absolutely necessary, as in my experience it is not as uncomfortable as many people think, as everyone involved is naked. Nevertheless, it is advisable to have perhaps already taken part in a nude hike or done some nudist camping for a while where you are permanently naked. This way you can find out whether you feel comfortable with it.
It would also be good if everyone has experience in a few different areas, e.g. cooking, gardening or dealing with animals. After all, you want to be a self-sufficient community and need as little outside help as possible. Skilled craftspeople would also be an advantage, as you will probably have to do a lot of work on the property at the beginning, depending on which property you end up looking for or finding. In addition, some people should also have an idea of numbers, so that if you have to deal with the outside world - i.e. the state - in terms of taxes, insurance and the like, you have someone or several people who can take care of it. In addition, if you really implement the idea of a campsite, people could go on vacation there and the municipality could also earn some extra money.
Another thing that should also be open is physical desire. I don't want to go into too much detail at the moment, otherwise it will just be misunderstood again. But I will say this much: it's not just about satisfying physical desires, it also has spiritual implications if you fully engage in it. Free love really means that it's not just about sex. Polyamory, for example, involves emotionally loving multiple people, not just one other person. The monogamous relationship concept is always about two people; regardless of sex, there are only two people in the relationship. However, free love should be more than just physical lust, but should also include the spiritual. Physical closeness also creates emotional closeness if you are willing to engage in it.
To address this point in more detail: Monogamy is all well and good, but I think someone seeking such a relationship is in the wrong place in such a commune. Being open to new things and willing to try things out is good. But you should try to find out whether you can cope with it.
Age of people in the municipality
The age in the municipality can be summarized quite simply: In principle, no one should be denied access to the municipality, regardless of whether they are 1 or 100 years old - although this is probably unrealistic. But you should also bear in mind that this is a cross-generational community that should ideally continue to exist. This means that young people and children are needed in the municipality to maintain the community. In addition, people should be able to work, as self-sufficiency depends on everything working. This means that both younger and older people should lend a hand here and there. Of course, no one should be overburdened and consideration should be given to older people and children. Nevertheless, everyone has to do their bit up to a certain point to ensure that the community continues to exist.
Of course, children can only live in the community with their parents, that should be clear anyway. But I would also like to point out to young adults that it is not easy. In addition, nudism is compulsory from the age of 18 anyway, except in certain exceptional cases. After all, this is one of the reasons why the municipality was founded, among other things. So it should be clear to everyone that anyone who comes to the commune to ogle or harass others has no place here. I say this because I've seen a lot of nudists behaving badly from time to time.
Other things that I don't necessarily have to put into words, such as age and sex, for example, are clearly forbidden and will be reported to the authorities accordingly. So it goes without saying that no paedophiles or similar stories are tolerated. But even among adults, no means no. The fact that you have to add something like that shows just how sick society is these days.
That's all for now on this point.
The age in the municipality can be summarized quite simply: In principle, no one should be denied access to the municipality, regardless of whether they are 1 or 100 years old - although this is probably unrealistic. But you should also bear in mind that this is a cross-generational community that should ideally continue to exist. This means that young people and children are needed in the municipality to maintain the community. In addition, people should be able to work, as self-sufficiency depends on everything working. This means that both younger and older people should lend a hand here and there. Of course, no one should be overburdened and consideration should be given to older people and children. Nevertheless, everyone has to do their bit up to a certain point to ensure that the community continues to exist.
Of course, children can only live in the community with their parents, that should be clear anyway. But I would also like to point out to young adults that it is not easy. In addition, nudism is compulsory from the age of 18 anyway, except in certain exceptional cases. After all, this is one of the reasons why the municipality was founded, among other things. So it should be clear to everyone that anyone who comes to the commune to ogle or harass others has no place here. I say this because I've seen a lot of nudists behaving badly from time to time.
Other things that I don't necessarily have to put into words, such as age and sex, for example, are clearly forbidden and will be reported to the authorities accordingly. So it goes without saying that no paedophiles or similar stories are tolerated. But even among adults, no means no. The fact that you have to add something like that shows just how sick society is these days.
That's all for now on this point.
About the number of people
Basically, too many cooks spoil the broth. However, a good kitchen always needs the right staff. Well, it's not the best comparison, but I think you understand what I'm trying to say. We shouldn't have too many people in the community, but we shouldn't have too few either, otherwise it will fail. I estimate, depending on the plot and location, about 10 as a minimum and 24 as a maximum to start with. However, I would note here that I am only talking about adults. Children are not included. As I said, you basically need a place where you can live. Having more people around also means more opportunities from a financial perspective. But you also need a bigger place. I've already discussed the location, buildings and land in another post. Feel free to take a look over there.
A lot has already been mentioned, but none of it has been clarified yet. I would therefore start with an example. Let's assume we have a property with two habitable houses. The two houses are different sizes: one house has large rooms, but only four rooms on two floors, while the other house has two rooms on two floors.
I would then convert the large house into a dormitory, where we would set up a large bathroom and laundry room and use the other rooms as dormitories. So that would be a total of eight bedrooms and two toilets on both floors. For the time being, we could plan to accommodate six people per room. That would be perfect for 48 people. So you would have more than enough space for the first 24 people.
The small one can then be used as a kitchen and dining room as well as a meeting room and living room for everyone
So much for the figures.
Basically, too many cooks spoil the broth. However, a good kitchen always needs the right staff. Well, it's not the best comparison, but I think you understand what I'm trying to say. We shouldn't have too many people in the community, but we shouldn't have too few either, otherwise it will fail. I estimate, depending on the plot and location, about 10 as a minimum and 24 as a maximum to start with. However, I would note here that I am only talking about adults. Children are not included. As I said, you basically need a place where you can live. Having more people around also means more opportunities from a financial perspective. But you also need a bigger place. I've already discussed the location, buildings and land in another post. Feel free to take a look over there.
A lot has already been mentioned, but none of it has been clarified yet. I would therefore start with an example. Let's assume we have a property with two habitable houses. The two houses are different sizes: one house has large rooms, but only four rooms on two floors, while the other house has two rooms on two floors.
I would then convert the large house into a dormitory, where we would set up a large bathroom and laundry room and use the other rooms as dormitories. So that would be a total of eight bedrooms and two toilets on both floors. For the time being, we could plan to accommodate six people per room. That would be perfect for 48 people. So you would have more than enough space for the first 24 people.
The small one can then be used as a kitchen and dining room as well as a meeting room and living room for everyone
So much for the figures.
I would now like to end this section here and say.
Thank you for your interest and I am pleased that you have looked at it.
Your Dragon
Land Location Buildings
bei Drache
Topic Location, buildings and terrain
Here on this page is an overview of the location, the land and the buildings you will probably need. I would start with the location.
A little information beforehand. This is only an overview. Further posts on this topic will follow.
Well, that's it for now. I would be delighted if you had any comments and/or suggestions for me. Perhaps there is someone who has experience with this and can advise me, or someone who would like to join and is already familiar with various things.
Until then, your dragon.
Here on this page is an overview of the location, the land and the buildings you will probably need. I would start with the location.
A little information beforehand. This is only an overview. Further posts on this topic will follow.
Location.
Location, i.e. country, is one of the most important questions to begin with. For my part, I tend to prefer a warm country where, in the best case, it never drops below around 20° all year round. However, unlike many others, I'm probably not thinking of the naturist aspect, but I simply don't like the cold regardless of clothing. Since this is just an overview, I would like to briefly summarize the whole thing.
Let's start with Germany:
Like everything positive and negative, Germany has advantages. Let's start with the positive. I, and probably you too, speak the language. We were (at least I assume so) all born here or at least grew up here. So we know the country and the laws. In addition (and this is an advantage and disadvantage in both cases), there is health insurance. However, this is compulsory. I'll go into this in more detail in a later post. Then we also have the fact that many probably also have friends and families here. (although this can also be an advantage or disadvantage depending on the person).
Now we come to the disadvantages:
The disadvantages probably include the possible language barriers for some. As far as I'm concerned, the cold in winter. Also health insurance. Which is compulsory. As I said, there will be an extra post later in the next few weeks. Another disadvantage is the bureaucracy that you have in Germany. In addition, especially when I am part of a community, there is hatred and envy. I have a lot of people who don't begrudge me anything and want to stand in my way no matter what I do. Of course, that also means the project. People are already sending things around on Telegram and discussing how best to sabotage the project. I'm sure there will also be some who dare to enter the community in order to destroy it from within. It won't be the first time. (Of course, this can also happen abroad. But there is less chance of that happening).
Now let's look at the positive aspects of living abroad:
For me personally, it's clearly warm all year round. Then, of course, hopefully peace and quiet for the realization of the community. (i.e. no haters) then positive for some people who want to leave Germany anyway and so perhaps get a good chance. Also, no compulsory health insurance. German bureaucracy would not make life unnecessarily difficult.
The negatives abroad:
Sure, the language barrier could be a problem for some, although you could also use the opportunity positively to learn a new language. However, depending on the country and laws, you would first have to find out whether and how this works. If 25 people simply come to a foreign country and set up a naturist commune, some people will certainly not like it. And of course I don't know what the legal situation is like in Spain, Portugal or other countries.
As you can see, the disadvantages abroad are perhaps not quite as great as in Germany. However, I would like to take this opportunity to say that the commune is a joint project anyway and that's precisely why I don't want to make a decision on my own. I have already received a lot of positive feedback and even a few offers from people who want to support the project. However, I have to say that it's not so easy to filter out whether it's serious or fake.
I would therefore do the following: as soon as you have the first people together for the foundation, you vote on it and see whether Germany or not and if so, whether you want to do it here or there. I don't expect it to happen very quickly, although I was surprised by the amount of news so far after just two days.
Location, i.e. country, is one of the most important questions to begin with. For my part, I tend to prefer a warm country where, in the best case, it never drops below around 20° all year round. However, unlike many others, I'm probably not thinking of the naturist aspect, but I simply don't like the cold regardless of clothing. Since this is just an overview, I would like to briefly summarize the whole thing.
Let's start with Germany:
Like everything positive and negative, Germany has advantages. Let's start with the positive. I, and probably you too, speak the language. We were (at least I assume so) all born here or at least grew up here. So we know the country and the laws. In addition (and this is an advantage and disadvantage in both cases), there is health insurance. However, this is compulsory. I'll go into this in more detail in a later post. Then we also have the fact that many probably also have friends and families here. (although this can also be an advantage or disadvantage depending on the person).
Now we come to the disadvantages:
The disadvantages probably include the possible language barriers for some. As far as I'm concerned, the cold in winter. Also health insurance. Which is compulsory. As I said, there will be an extra post later in the next few weeks. Another disadvantage is the bureaucracy that you have in Germany. In addition, especially when I am part of a community, there is hatred and envy. I have a lot of people who don't begrudge me anything and want to stand in my way no matter what I do. Of course, that also means the project. People are already sending things around on Telegram and discussing how best to sabotage the project. I'm sure there will also be some who dare to enter the community in order to destroy it from within. It won't be the first time. (Of course, this can also happen abroad. But there is less chance of that happening).
Now let's look at the positive aspects of living abroad:
For me personally, it's clearly warm all year round. Then, of course, hopefully peace and quiet for the realization of the community. (i.e. no haters) then positive for some people who want to leave Germany anyway and so perhaps get a good chance. Also, no compulsory health insurance. German bureaucracy would not make life unnecessarily difficult.
The negatives abroad:
Sure, the language barrier could be a problem for some, although you could also use the opportunity positively to learn a new language. However, depending on the country and laws, you would first have to find out whether and how this works. If 25 people simply come to a foreign country and set up a naturist commune, some people will certainly not like it. And of course I don't know what the legal situation is like in Spain, Portugal or other countries.
As you can see, the disadvantages abroad are perhaps not quite as great as in Germany. However, I would like to take this opportunity to say that the commune is a joint project anyway and that's precisely why I don't want to make a decision on my own. I have already received a lot of positive feedback and even a few offers from people who want to support the project. However, I have to say that it's not so easy to filter out whether it's serious or fake.
I would therefore do the following: as soon as you have the first people together for the foundation, you vote on it and see whether Germany or not and if so, whether you want to do it here or there. I don't expect it to happen very quickly, although I was surprised by the amount of news so far after just two days.
Terrain
The terrain will be important because you will need a base area for planting vegetables and perhaps even fruit, as well as possibly wanting to set up campsites to earn some money for the community. Also, if you want to keep animals for food, for example, you will need pasture or grassland to make hay. However, this of course depends on how far you want to go with self-sufficiency in food. I would also like to have a place on the property where you can simply get together for a small party, for example, if you want to celebrate something, be it birthdays, spring, summer or fall festivals or whatever.
The terrain will be important because you will need a base area for planting vegetables and perhaps even fruit, as well as possibly wanting to set up campsites to earn some money for the community. Also, if you want to keep animals for food, for example, you will need pasture or grassland to make hay. However, this of course depends on how far you want to go with self-sufficiency in food. I would also like to have a place on the property where you can simply get together for a small party, for example, if you want to celebrate something, be it birthdays, spring, summer or fall festivals or whatever.
Buildings
Now to the core of the commune: of course you can't sleep out in the open all the time, so you need houses. I have already described a rough idea of this; here follows a more detailed explanation.
Let's start with the dwellings. One idea I have is a dormitory. Since the commune is about nudism and free love, this shouldn't really be a big problem. However, I can imagine that it is a problem for many people when they want to retreat and be alone. Everyone, including me, needs a retreat from time to time. That's why I'm thinking about how to create one.
Let's move on to the dormitory. Some people will probably be wondering how exactly this works with the dormitory and free love. And not everyone will probably want to do this all the time and might just want to sleep in peace and quiet and undisturbed. I have therefore thought about setting up two different types of dormitories. In one, you know from the outset who you're sleeping with (but it's not compulsory) and something could potentially happen, either to yourself or to others in the room. In the other dormitory, on the other hand, you simply sleep because you are exhausted from work, for example, or simply need some peace and quiet.
"So much for this topic. I've already been asked whether we also have individual rooms. So I would arrange it as follows: Since, as I mentioned before, the commune is a community and everyone has a say, we should definitely vote on it and consider whether the idea of a dorm should ultimately be implemented at all. I had the idea mainly for the reason of having enough space for a few people. A dormitory for up to 7 people is easily feasible. A single room or a couple of rooms would mean that we would need at least 3 to 7 rooms for 7 people. A house, for example, often only has 8 to 10 rooms, depending on its size. My house at the time, for example, had 8 habitable rooms, plus 4 cellar rooms, three bathrooms and an attic. The kitchen is already included in the 8 rooms. So that would mean that we would need space for 7 people in a house just for the single rooms. Some people could certainly share a room, so maybe 6 couples per house. That would mean that with 2 houses we could perhaps accommodate 24 people, but still have no kitchen and no communal area."
So just vote and see how you do it as soon as you have enough people together. You should also bear in mind that you want to grow as a community. Personally, I'm not aiming for more than 50 to 80 people within the community, including children, but you never know. And you really shouldn't forget that you also need space for children in the long term. So I would say, whether it's used from the start or not, you need at least two, maybe three houses. I would convert one of the houses into a community house. That means I would set up a communal kitchen where everyone could cook together. There should also be a living area where you can play games, confer or do other activities together, as well as a communal bathroom. Please don't get this wrong. Toilets should be installed in all houses, even several, but I would set up a large bathroom for showering and bathing where you can wash yourself properly. I would also do this here in order to have space for living rooms or, better, bedrooms.
The houses should therefore all be as close together as possible. Of course, I am also open to ideas and suggestions here.
Now to the animal or tool buildings. Let's start small. What I would definitely recommend are chickens. That means you need a chicken coop and a run for them. It doesn't have to be particularly large. However, you also have to consider how many people you have to feed in the community. So there should be a few more chickens. When I was little, we had about 20 chickens for 5 people. We always had enough eggs. But I think we need at least 40 for a commune of 24 people, depending on how many eggs you need and how well the hens lay.
Then I would suggest keeping cows. I think just a few cows would be enough. However, I don't have an exact idea of how many you need. Nevertheless, you definitely need a barn with room for at least 3 or 4 cows, in my estimation, and also room in case you have to let some calve. Incidentally, it would be good if one or two people in the community were interested and familiar with this. I also have experience with cows, but not nearly as many. Depending on the size of the barn, it might be possible to divide it into two sections and possibly use one part for keeping pigs. But you would have to take a closer look. I don't know if that would be so easy to implement.
Last but not least, I thought about a pigeon or duck house, but that's probably too much of a good thing. You also have to look after the animals.
So nothing has been decided yet, only considerations.
However, you definitely need a barn where you can store tools and various things. For example, feed for the animals or any vehicles you may need.
Now to the core of the commune: of course you can't sleep out in the open all the time, so you need houses. I have already described a rough idea of this; here follows a more detailed explanation.
Let's start with the dwellings. One idea I have is a dormitory. Since the commune is about nudism and free love, this shouldn't really be a big problem. However, I can imagine that it is a problem for many people when they want to retreat and be alone. Everyone, including me, needs a retreat from time to time. That's why I'm thinking about how to create one.
Let's move on to the dormitory. Some people will probably be wondering how exactly this works with the dormitory and free love. And not everyone will probably want to do this all the time and might just want to sleep in peace and quiet and undisturbed. I have therefore thought about setting up two different types of dormitories. In one, you know from the outset who you're sleeping with (but it's not compulsory) and something could potentially happen, either to yourself or to others in the room. In the other dormitory, on the other hand, you simply sleep because you are exhausted from work, for example, or simply need some peace and quiet.
"So much for this topic. I've already been asked whether we also have individual rooms. So I would arrange it as follows: Since, as I mentioned before, the commune is a community and everyone has a say, we should definitely vote on it and consider whether the idea of a dorm should ultimately be implemented at all. I had the idea mainly for the reason of having enough space for a few people. A dormitory for up to 7 people is easily feasible. A single room or a couple of rooms would mean that we would need at least 3 to 7 rooms for 7 people. A house, for example, often only has 8 to 10 rooms, depending on its size. My house at the time, for example, had 8 habitable rooms, plus 4 cellar rooms, three bathrooms and an attic. The kitchen is already included in the 8 rooms. So that would mean that we would need space for 7 people in a house just for the single rooms. Some people could certainly share a room, so maybe 6 couples per house. That would mean that with 2 houses we could perhaps accommodate 24 people, but still have no kitchen and no communal area."
So just vote and see how you do it as soon as you have enough people together. You should also bear in mind that you want to grow as a community. Personally, I'm not aiming for more than 50 to 80 people within the community, including children, but you never know. And you really shouldn't forget that you also need space for children in the long term. So I would say, whether it's used from the start or not, you need at least two, maybe three houses. I would convert one of the houses into a community house. That means I would set up a communal kitchen where everyone could cook together. There should also be a living area where you can play games, confer or do other activities together, as well as a communal bathroom. Please don't get this wrong. Toilets should be installed in all houses, even several, but I would set up a large bathroom for showering and bathing where you can wash yourself properly. I would also do this here in order to have space for living rooms or, better, bedrooms.
The houses should therefore all be as close together as possible. Of course, I am also open to ideas and suggestions here.
Now to the animal or tool buildings. Let's start small. What I would definitely recommend are chickens. That means you need a chicken coop and a run for them. It doesn't have to be particularly large. However, you also have to consider how many people you have to feed in the community. So there should be a few more chickens. When I was little, we had about 20 chickens for 5 people. We always had enough eggs. But I think we need at least 40 for a commune of 24 people, depending on how many eggs you need and how well the hens lay.
Then I would suggest keeping cows. I think just a few cows would be enough. However, I don't have an exact idea of how many you need. Nevertheless, you definitely need a barn with room for at least 3 or 4 cows, in my estimation, and also room in case you have to let some calve. Incidentally, it would be good if one or two people in the community were interested and familiar with this. I also have experience with cows, but not nearly as many. Depending on the size of the barn, it might be possible to divide it into two sections and possibly use one part for keeping pigs. But you would have to take a closer look. I don't know if that would be so easy to implement.
Last but not least, I thought about a pigeon or duck house, but that's probably too much of a good thing. You also have to look after the animals.
So nothing has been decided yet, only considerations.
However, you definitely need a barn where you can store tools and various things. For example, feed for the animals or any vehicles you may need.
Well, that's it for now. I would be delighted if you had any comments and/or suggestions for me. Perhaps there is someone who has experience with this and can advise me, or someone who would like to join and is already familiar with various things.
Until then, your dragon.
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2021
It's time to start talking about getting naked and being naked around children.
Free body culture
by Drache
And now we are getting to a part where it's really going to be weird: Kids in the commune and naked people around/kids being naked.
Rainer wouldn't be this retard extraordinaire that he is if he wouldn't fuck up this part especially. He will talk about "doing research" and then links to the website of an officially nudity group. A group that saw member getting busted by cops for -you probably already guessed it- producing child porn.
Some parts of the original German text already got edited bc trolls were reporting the blog entries. And of course trolls are already tearing Rainer apart for this madness and spreading the word about Rainer wanting to have a community full of naked people with children being around.
Free body culture
by Drache
Free body culture (FKK) in the community
Nudism the liberation of the shackles
Nudism in the community (adults)
Even today, nudism is still a topic that many people cannot understand. The topic of children and nudism in particular may sound strange to many. This is because it exists at a time when there are many paedophiles who also receive insufficient legal punishment. However, nudism has nothing to do with sex and should therefore be viewed differently. Many people see nudity and sex as being far too closely linked, whereas most people who practise nudism are less concerned with sex, although there are certainly people who are. It's more about feeling free. In society, it's considered normal to wear clothes, and that's only because it's been that way for thousands of years. But that's actually nonsense. Man is the only animal that drinks the milk of other animals, and the only animal that would wear the fur of others, even if we can no longer speak of fur, but you know what I mean.
The name naturism - meaning nudism - if you break it down into the three words, you can look at the whole thing in peace. "Free" is clear what it means. There are so many people who feel confined, whether it's in their job, in their everyday life or in their clothes. There are so many laws and rules these days that are simply unnecessary or should be abolished. For example, there are still laws from the Middle Ages that are no longer enforced at all, but they still exist. Then "body": the body is something we all have. Not everyone is the same, not everyone is beautiful, but not everyone is ugly either. We humans differ in our way of thinking, pronunciation and even skin color, yet we are all the same in a way. We humans should think more about what unites us instead of dividing us. That brings us to the word "culture": culture is something that everyone has somewhere. It is important for us humans to know who we are. We want to belong, but we don't want to stand out too much from the crowd. Culture is therefore a valuable asset to remind us of this and also to share something of ourselves with others. That's my view.
In order to approach the whole thing in a more organized way, I will - as so often - divide this article into several points. You can then simply read through the section that interests you or that you are wondering about after the heading. And, as always, there will of course be more posts as time goes on. This means that this post may no longer be up to date if you only read the blog later in the year, or there may simply be additions in the form of a post. However, I will always include links in the text, so look out for the highlighted words so that you can read up on other sites if necessary.
The name naturism - meaning nudism - if you break it down into the three words, you can look at the whole thing in peace. "Free" is clear what it means. There are so many people who feel confined, whether it's in their job, in their everyday life or in their clothes. There are so many laws and rules these days that are simply unnecessary or should be abolished. For example, there are still laws from the Middle Ages that are no longer enforced at all, but they still exist. Then "body": the body is something we all have. Not everyone is the same, not everyone is beautiful, but not everyone is ugly either. We humans differ in our way of thinking, pronunciation and even skin color, yet we are all the same in a way. We humans should think more about what unites us instead of dividing us. That brings us to the word "culture": culture is something that everyone has somewhere. It is important for us humans to know who we are. We want to belong, but we don't want to stand out too much from the crowd. Culture is therefore a valuable asset to remind us of this and also to share something of ourselves with others. That's my view.
In order to approach the whole thing in a more organized way, I will - as so often - divide this article into several points. You can then simply read through the section that interests you or that you are wondering about after the heading. And, as always, there will of course be more posts as time goes on. This means that this post may no longer be up to date if you only read the blog later in the year, or there may simply be additions in the form of a post. However, I will always include links in the text, so look out for the highlighted words so that you can read up on other sites if necessary.
Nudism the liberation of the shackles
Note before we start: Some of what I'm about to write about is just my personal opinion or that of people I know. This means that not everyone will be able or want to share or understand these views.
I'll start at the age of 10. Even as a child, you sometimes run around naked when you're still very small. However, when I was about 10, a friend and I used to go swimming regularly at a pond. At one point we were there without our swimming costumes. This was because we weren't planning to go swimming, but it was so hot that we just said: "Oh, screw it!". So we got undressed and went for a swim. Afterwards, because of course we didn't have any towels with us, we lay down on the grass and waited until we were dry. It was nothing special for us and we didn't think about it at all. I don't think anyone does that at that age. From then on, we actually always did it that way, but we did have bath towels with us.
That was just the beginning. At some point, I lay naked in the grass in a meadow and tried out a few other things. Even then I realized that I actually liked doing it and felt comfortable doing it. I also started to see clothing as a kind of restraint. It's like a mask or a suit of armor, and that always bothered me. As I got older, however, it faded into the background and I let it go, partly because it was drummed into me that it was unseemly. You're forced to wear clothes because otherwise you'll even be punished by law. But clothes are actually unnatural. When I was about 22 years old, I started going to saunas and nudist clubs again and it was liberating again. I also started being naked at home whenever possible.
However, many of my friends have no interest in it, as nudity has far too much of a sexual character these days. It's just because you're forced to wear clothes. I wonder whether that doesn't conflict with the law, such as freedom of expression and freedom of personality. You can only be prosecuted for causing a public nuisance, and that doesn't even happen if you are naked and are seen. Only when the person who has seen you complains does the situation of public nuisance arise. If you ask me, this is completely banal, because every one of us was born naked. But well, I don't want to go into it any further now because I don't know anything about it anyway.
For me, one thing is certain: I feel restricted and blocked by clothing. I also find that there is a greater connection to nature when you walk barefoot, for example. Many people have already taken videos and photos of me because I like to walk around without shoes. It may not be a pretty sight for many, but I don't care because it's about how I feel, not how others feel. I also think that sitting naked in the grass or on stones feels much more than just the feeling of your body. I find that you can also feel the flow of energy. But well, that's another topic. There is also something of my own.
I'll start at the age of 10. Even as a child, you sometimes run around naked when you're still very small. However, when I was about 10, a friend and I used to go swimming regularly at a pond. At one point we were there without our swimming costumes. This was because we weren't planning to go swimming, but it was so hot that we just said: "Oh, screw it!". So we got undressed and went for a swim. Afterwards, because of course we didn't have any towels with us, we lay down on the grass and waited until we were dry. It was nothing special for us and we didn't think about it at all. I don't think anyone does that at that age. From then on, we actually always did it that way, but we did have bath towels with us.
That was just the beginning. At some point, I lay naked in the grass in a meadow and tried out a few other things. Even then I realized that I actually liked doing it and felt comfortable doing it. I also started to see clothing as a kind of restraint. It's like a mask or a suit of armor, and that always bothered me. As I got older, however, it faded into the background and I let it go, partly because it was drummed into me that it was unseemly. You're forced to wear clothes because otherwise you'll even be punished by law. But clothes are actually unnatural. When I was about 22 years old, I started going to saunas and nudist clubs again and it was liberating again. I also started being naked at home whenever possible.
However, many of my friends have no interest in it, as nudity has far too much of a sexual character these days. It's just because you're forced to wear clothes. I wonder whether that doesn't conflict with the law, such as freedom of expression and freedom of personality. You can only be prosecuted for causing a public nuisance, and that doesn't even happen if you are naked and are seen. Only when the person who has seen you complains does the situation of public nuisance arise. If you ask me, this is completely banal, because every one of us was born naked. But well, I don't want to go into it any further now because I don't know anything about it anyway.
For me, one thing is certain: I feel restricted and blocked by clothing. I also find that there is a greater connection to nature when you walk barefoot, for example. Many people have already taken videos and photos of me because I like to walk around without shoes. It may not be a pretty sight for many, but I don't care because it's about how I feel, not how others feel. I also think that sitting naked in the grass or on stones feels much more than just the feeling of your body. I find that you can also feel the flow of energy. But well, that's another topic. There is also something of my own.
Nudism in the community (adults)
I have decided to split this article into one for adults and one for children as I am constantly asked about this. This way, perhaps everyone can form their own opinion.
Nudism (naturism) for adults - well, I don't know exactly what to say about this. The subject of children has its own article, which will certainly be more extensive than this one, as otherwise it will lead to many problems and be misunderstood. So first of all, let's talk about adults.
Nudism is actually something that is as old as the world. I think that even in earlier times some people walked around naked or liked it. (I'm not talking about indigenous people here, but people who lived in a society in which clothing had become normal). Among other things, nudism is divided into two categories (that I know of). There is nudism, or naturism for short, and then there are the nudists. The latter are a bit more on the line of being connected to nature and their environment. I have to be honest and say that I'm not sure whether I should classify myself as a nudist or a naturist. I've read a lot about it over the last 15 years, but so far I have no idea how to categorize myself. To be honest, I've never really understood the differences either.
There are rules in a normal society, and one is that you have to wear clothes (in my research I found that there is actually no law on this). In fact, there seems to be only one law, §183, which states that it is a criminal offense to arouse others through nudity. This activates the law on causing public nuisance and becomes a punishable offense. To put it clearly: If no one got upset by nudity, it would be completely irrelevant, as the law would no longer be relevant. So basically, it is we ourselves who are obstructing.
Don't get me wrong, there are also men and women, although not quite as many, who deliberately undress in front of others in order to polarize. There are two variants (or maybe more, but I only know two). The first is the streaker; this is someone who is partially or fully naked and runs through a crowd or across the field at a sporting event (or similar) to attract attention. Here I understand that there are laws and can accept them, although such a thing would not be at all unusual if there was no dress code anyway.
And then there are the men and women who walk around in long coats, under which they are naked, and then rip open their coats in front of passers-by - mostly women, but also men - to present themselves naked. This, in turn, is also directly referred to as exhibitionism and is probably the reason for the laws. But here, too, I see it in the same way as with streaking: This probably wouldn't exist at all if being naked wasn't forbidden or so abnormal in the view of almost everyone.
Well, so much for the topic of nudism for adults. But the article has become longer than expected.
Nudism (naturism) for adults - well, I don't know exactly what to say about this. The subject of children has its own article, which will certainly be more extensive than this one, as otherwise it will lead to many problems and be misunderstood. So first of all, let's talk about adults.
Nudism is actually something that is as old as the world. I think that even in earlier times some people walked around naked or liked it. (I'm not talking about indigenous people here, but people who lived in a society in which clothing had become normal). Among other things, nudism is divided into two categories (that I know of). There is nudism, or naturism for short, and then there are the nudists. The latter are a bit more on the line of being connected to nature and their environment. I have to be honest and say that I'm not sure whether I should classify myself as a nudist or a naturist. I've read a lot about it over the last 15 years, but so far I have no idea how to categorize myself. To be honest, I've never really understood the differences either.
There are rules in a normal society, and one is that you have to wear clothes (in my research I found that there is actually no law on this). In fact, there seems to be only one law, §183, which states that it is a criminal offense to arouse others through nudity. This activates the law on causing public nuisance and becomes a punishable offense. To put it clearly: If no one got upset by nudity, it would be completely irrelevant, as the law would no longer be relevant. So basically, it is we ourselves who are obstructing.
Don't get me wrong, there are also men and women, although not quite as many, who deliberately undress in front of others in order to polarize. There are two variants (or maybe more, but I only know two). The first is the streaker; this is someone who is partially or fully naked and runs through a crowd or across the field at a sporting event (or similar) to attract attention. Here I understand that there are laws and can accept them, although such a thing would not be at all unusual if there was no dress code anyway.
And then there are the men and women who walk around in long coats, under which they are naked, and then rip open their coats in front of passers-by - mostly women, but also men - to present themselves naked. This, in turn, is also directly referred to as exhibitionism and is probably the reason for the laws. But here, too, I see it in the same way as with streaking: This probably wouldn't exist at all if being naked wasn't forbidden or so abnormal in the view of almost everyone.
Well, so much for the topic of nudism for adults. But the article has become longer than expected.
And now we are getting to a part where it's really going to be weird: Kids in the commune and naked people around/kids being naked.
Rainer wouldn't be this retard extraordinaire that he is if he wouldn't fuck up this part especially. He will talk about "doing research" and then links to the website of an officially nudity group. A group that saw member getting busted by cops for -you probably already guessed it- producing child porn.
Nudism in the community (children)
Well, that's it for this topic for now. I will now turn my attention to the other topics and hope that many of you are not too skeptical to give the whole thing a thought.
Until then, I would be delighted to receive feedback and comments.
Your Dragon
To be honest, I'm a bit afraid of this topic because it will polarize unnecessarily. Things like this are always interpreted as negative, even though there is nothing negative about them. So before I do some research and read up on the subject (which I'm about to do), I'd like to say a few things: the fact is, children don't have to be naked if they don't want to be. For one thing, children can't help it if they live and grow up in such a community, as this is the decision of their parents or guardians. Therefore, it is clearly the decision of the children themselves. In addition (I keep repeating this), anyone who messes up with children will clearly be severely punished. I have to be honest, I don't know if I could hold back my fist either. So, a clear rejection (no) on the subject. I just wanted to clarify that in advance, as I'm always accused of something like that. I love children and want to protect them. However, I want to protect everyone I can. So, now I'm going to find out about the laws and provide you with links in the posts so that I can read up on them myself.
Phew, first of all, I have to say that it's not that easy to find something on the subject of children and young people and nudist laws. Phew, I'll stick to that, really difficult. After an hour of searching various articles, I found one that I will link to here. However, it was not written by a legislator but by an independent site and relates more to saunas than nudism. The article is too large to reproduce here, so I'll just summarize it briefly: It discusses various points, including the fact that children up to the age of 10 usually have no sense of shame, which only changes from the teenage years onwards. However, this also depends on the attitudes of others and the environment. In general, it's clearly a difficult topic. I'll take another look and then add my own opinion.
Well, during my research, which took another hour, I found a site that deals with naturist camping in general. But like here, it also writes about children and young people in the naturist sector and I came across the term BJN or Bund Junger Naturisten. To be honest, I'm a bit confused because I ended up on a hundred different pages when I googled it. I would just link you to the report on naturist camping and you can read it for yourself. It's generally a very detailed summary, but I'm honestly surprised that I didn't find more on the subject. Maybe I've just been looking in the wrong place. I'll look further into the subject and let you know. There are still a lot of posts to come on the subject. But since I want to release the blog tonight if possible, at least the initial structure should fit.
Briefly about my opinion on children in the community:
As children are still a completely separate topic, I would like to give my opinion on nudism here first. I have already mentioned it above. I see it quite simply: adults can deal with it as they wish. Children, who are still quite small and don't know any different, don't worry about it. In general, I don't think there should be a problem, as nudism has been around for almost 100 years. Nevertheless, children are allowed to decide for themselves and if they find themselves in an uncomfortable situation, which should always be avoided, they will be dealt with immediately.
Phew, first of all, I have to say that it's not that easy to find something on the subject of children and young people and nudist laws. Phew, I'll stick to that, really difficult. After an hour of searching various articles, I found one that I will link to here. However, it was not written by a legislator but by an independent site and relates more to saunas than nudism. The article is too large to reproduce here, so I'll just summarize it briefly: It discusses various points, including the fact that children up to the age of 10 usually have no sense of shame, which only changes from the teenage years onwards. However, this also depends on the attitudes of others and the environment. In general, it's clearly a difficult topic. I'll take another look and then add my own opinion.
Well, during my research, which took another hour, I found a site that deals with naturist camping in general. But like here, it also writes about children and young people in the naturist sector and I came across the term BJN or Bund Junger Naturisten. To be honest, I'm a bit confused because I ended up on a hundred different pages when I googled it. I would just link you to the report on naturist camping and you can read it for yourself. It's generally a very detailed summary, but I'm honestly surprised that I didn't find more on the subject. Maybe I've just been looking in the wrong place. I'll look further into the subject and let you know. There are still a lot of posts to come on the subject. But since I want to release the blog tonight if possible, at least the initial structure should fit.
Briefly about my opinion on children in the community:
As children are still a completely separate topic, I would like to give my opinion on nudism here first. I have already mentioned it above. I see it quite simply: adults can deal with it as they wish. Children, who are still quite small and don't know any different, don't worry about it. In general, I don't think there should be a problem, as nudism has been around for almost 100 years. Nevertheless, children are allowed to decide for themselves and if they find themselves in an uncomfortable situation, which should always be avoided, they will be dealt with immediately.
Nudism and closeness to nature
Everyone who pursues the naturist or nudist lifestyle has different reasons for doing so. For my part, I like to feel the freedom: wind, sun or even rain on my skin, without clothes. Then there's the feeling of sand, earth, grass or stone under your feet when you sit or lie down - simply the feeling of the surface. Even if sand is annoying. It is simply, at least for me, a liberating and natural feeling, without fabric on your skin that keeps so much away from you. There is a separate post on the subject of spirituality. But since for me the whole thing is very closely linked to nudity in terms of the flow of energy, I want to say a few more sentences about it here. I find that simply sitting naked in the grass, especially when it's very high and being caressed by the wind, is simply a very energizing feeling. There's also the feeling of being naked in the water or just being blown around by the wind. Many people today see all this as esoteric nonsense, but there is something to the subject of the energy of the universe. It can be felt everywhere, we humans have just forgotten how to feel it - something that many of us want to learn again and some of us have already learned. Back to the roots, so to speak.
Everyone who pursues the naturist or nudist lifestyle has different reasons for doing so. For my part, I like to feel the freedom: wind, sun or even rain on my skin, without clothes. Then there's the feeling of sand, earth, grass or stone under your feet when you sit or lie down - simply the feeling of the surface. Even if sand is annoying. It is simply, at least for me, a liberating and natural feeling, without fabric on your skin that keeps so much away from you. There is a separate post on the subject of spirituality. But since for me the whole thing is very closely linked to nudity in terms of the flow of energy, I want to say a few more sentences about it here. I find that simply sitting naked in the grass, especially when it's very high and being caressed by the wind, is simply a very energizing feeling. There's also the feeling of being naked in the water or just being blown around by the wind. Many people today see all this as esoteric nonsense, but there is something to the subject of the energy of the universe. It can be felt everywhere, we humans have just forgotten how to feel it - something that many of us want to learn again and some of us have already learned. Back to the roots, so to speak.
Well, that's it for this topic for now. I will now turn my attention to the other topics and hope that many of you are not too skeptical to give the whole thing a thought.
Until then, I would be delighted to receive feedback and comments.
Your Dragon
Some parts of the original German text already got edited bc trolls were reporting the blog entries. And of course trolls are already tearing Rainer apart for this madness and spreading the word about Rainer wanting to have a community full of naked people with children being around.
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2021
After freeing humans from clothes let's free them from evil religion and stuff.
SPIRITUALITY
with Dragon
Now that people are free of the oppression of wearing clothes and religious terror we need to feed them.
Self-sufficiency
with Dragon
SPIRITUALITY
with Dragon
Spirituality means something different to everyone. Some pray and believe in gods, others in devils and demons. Still others worship nature spirits or other beings. Every religion has something to do with spirituality in some way, but not every spirituality has something to do with religion.
The difference between spirituality with and without religion is probably clear to many, but not to some. However, I don't want to write about religion, but about spiritual thinking and everything that I think goes with it.
Everyone has fears and everyone has hopes and dreams. Some believe that you have to work hard enough to fulfill your dreams because they are the reward for that work. Others let themselves drift and believe that the universe will provide them with everything. What is certain is that everyone is right and everyone is wrong at the same time. How is this possible? Quite simply: spiritual contentment can be achieved differently for everyone.
Some people who work too hard at something and simply don't get it rewarded are often severely disappointed with life and take out their frustration or negative energy on others.
I know this all too well. I am a person who has little and had even less. I used to have more. But one thing is always clear to me: I have been happy at every stage of my 34 years. I've always felt content my whole life. Of course I've also had phases when I was in a bad mood, sad or simply angry. But these are moments or phases in life that no one can avoid. When I look back, I am happy with my life and also when I look forward, even though I don't recognize the path. WHY? The reason is simple: I enjoy the little pleasures that life has to offer. The moments when I am happy, when I feel at peace and when I am simply free. That's what makes my life so worth living.
I had been living on the streets for the last year and had no money for food, drink or, above all, a place to sleep. And although I was even rejected by institutions such as homeless shelters, soup kitchens and the station mission, I have - believe it or not - fond memories of that time. My life is not as sad as people always want to claim. I'm certainly a poor sausage when someone who is better off looks down on me or simply observes me. But the one thing that can't be taken away from me is my will, my joy and my soul. I laugh when I'm happy, cry when I'm sad, scream when I'm angry and am stunned when I'm shocked. But still, why should I be unhappy? I've seen more in the last two years than some people see in their entire lives. I have a job that I love despite all the difficulties. I have an unbreakable will.
Why am I telling you all this? Many people probably think I'm whining. But that's not the case. I am neither powerful nor omniscient. But since my childhood I have felt an energy within me that doesn't seem to belong to me, but is nevertheless a part of me. And I feel the same power in trees, the wind, rain, the sun and the earth. Every living being possesses this power. It is not the soul, but an energy that every form of existence needs in order to exist. It means more to me than it does to some, I think. I have felt my body growing and developing new skills all my life. First talking and walking, then running and jumping around. At some point I realized that I can see more than others and hear better. But better is not the right word. It's more like different. I hear different details than others. In any case, I have the impression. Of course, I also have my sense of smell and taste, but I always wonder whether that is as intense for everyone. I will probably seem like a weirdo to many people if I write all this. I've hardly ever talked to anyone about it either.
I recently spoke to a few people on TikTok Live, and well, I thought some of the things they said were ridiculous. However, I have to say that maybe it was just me. I see the world a little differently to other people, but that doesn't mean (as I'm always accused of) that I don't see reality. I believe that we humans live in different planes of existence. We primarily only perceive this one, but I think that's also because our perception is also split. And yet I believe that this split in perception can be removed to a certain extent, for example when we sleep. Of course, many (let's call them rational people) will now say that it's because our subconscious is working. But for my part, I don't think it's because of something like the subconscious. No, I think that we are simply more receptive to the other levels during sleep. A theory that I have also heard from others.
Now some of you will probably want to know how I think I use this energy or actively break through this level. Well, quite simply: not at all. I think it happens all by itself. I'm currently on this plane of existence, and that's fine. Maybe it will change when I die, maybe not. Nevertheless, I believe that I should just live my life as long as I can.
Back to the subject of energy: even as a child, I noticed that I felt freer and closer to nature, and therefore also to energy, when I wasn't wearing clothes. Of course, it could be my imagination, but in general it's nice to just look at the world in a relaxed way. In shoes, for example, you usually walk around carelessly and don't pay attention to where you're stepping or your surroundings (there are exceptions, of course). When you walk barefoot, you automatically look down more often. One advantage of this is that you can also see what is happening underneath you. For example, insects such as ants or other animals living on the ground. When you're naked, you can't just walk through bushes and shrubs, you have to be careful not to hurt yourself.
You feel your surroundings more intensely. You walk more slowly and carefully. You feel the wind, rain and sun. It's amazing how much reveals itself when you simply have the courage to look and listen. Just sit naked on a tree trunk or in the grass. Just go for your usual walk (if you have one) without shoes. You'll see what you're missing. And maybe you'll feel more than just what's visible around you.
What is also good, of course, is meditation. It occurs in many cultures and has been practiced for a long time by a wide variety of people. Some do it to calm their own energy or to escape from stress. Others do it to open up more to the energy around them. I do it myself, for example, to find inner peace, process my experiences and refocus. Admittedly, I'm still working on the last point. I started doing it very early on. I think I was 9 when I first came into contact with it. I don't do it nearly as often as I should, but I loved it then as I do now. The rhyme was unintentional. Anyway, I've realized for a long time that I need meditation and if I haven't done it for too long, I notice it in my mood.
I don't know what you do to find your inner peace or where you get your spiritual energy from - be it from your faith or another place. A long time ago, I tried Tai Chi myself. At the time, I wanted to learn this art because it works well as an energy catalyst in everyday life and allows energy to flow through the body without hurting anyone.
Energy is also affected positively and negatively by sleep and other things. Some people believe that there is positive and negative energy. But I don't believe that. Energy is never positive or negative. (By influence I mean the amount of energy you feel or carry within you). There are people who use their energy negatively, and there are others who perceive this and then believe that it is negative energy. In turn, many of them are also negatively influenced and use their energy in the same way. This has created the misconception that there is positive and negative energy. There is only energy, and how you use it is your own decision, but you can also change that. Someone who uses it negatively can also use it positively and vice versa. However, I believe that it is difficult for someone who mainly uses it negatively to use it positively, as opposed to someone who is always positive and uses it negatively. This is because negative use is much easier than positive use.
I have encountered so much negative energy in my life. Sorry, of course I mean people who spread negative energy. Unfortunately, to my shame, I have often allowed myself to be infected by it, but not always. It's amazing how easy it is to succumb to the seduction of negative influences. Your own will also plays a role in this. I always say that my will is weak. Others say that my will is strong. I just say: I think mine is weak. The reason for this is that I have seen, known or heard of people who had such a strong will that I feel more than puny. Some would call that negative thoughts. But that's not true. It may seem negative, but I look at it neutrally - neither negative nor positive. It's like the energy itself. It is simply there. I don't envy anyone who has more. But I pity those who have less. You could also interpret that as negative energy. The question is what happens when I use this supposedly negative energy to bring about something positive, for example by giving others some of my own happiness. (Happiness is just a word, it doesn't mean energy or a magical power, but simply a statement that you are helping someone).
I've been thinking lately about making reaction videos where I show how I react to videos where others are being helped - be it animals or people. You'd be surprised how quickly I get emotional and start crying. These are moments that make me happy when I see someone helping someone else. However, it's also frustrating to see how many people don't care about what they see or witness. When animals come up to a person and ask for help or when animals come to help people. There is so much love and good in the world, but yet so many try to destroy that because it's easier to laugh at others instead of helping them, because it's easier to ridicule them instead of encouraging them.
There is no such thing as positive or negative energy, only energy that is used positively or negatively. In most cases, it is used negatively. This raises the question: When energy is used negatively, is it stronger because there are more people doing it that way? In my opinion, no. I think that the energy that is used positively is more powerful because it is used for others. It allows you to use more energy. This energy is not created, it already exists. But unconsciously you use more energy for good than for bad. That's why fewer people perceive this positive energy, because there are fewer people who use it positively. It's also more difficult, as far as my theory goes, because more of it is used.
Last but not least, I would like to say a word about energy itself. We humans have largely forgotten how to feel this energy and no longer perceive it, even though it surrounds us and is within us. We don't realize how close it is to us. At the same time, we mock those who can because we think they are unrealistic or dreamy. Perhaps we simply envy them because we have forgotten how to do it. Everyone is born with this skill.
In conclusion, I would just like to say that the existence and provability of energy are there. You just have to be prepared to open your eyes and see it.
That's my idea and view of spirituality.
In a commune, all kinds of different people come together.
I know that I seem very crazy. Not everyone has to share, understand or be themselves.
Just go your own way, you'll find the right one.
My energy comes from within me and is all around me.
I look forward to your comments, feedback and opinions.
Your dragon.
The difference between spirituality with and without religion is probably clear to many, but not to some. However, I don't want to write about religion, but about spiritual thinking and everything that I think goes with it.
Everyone has fears and everyone has hopes and dreams. Some believe that you have to work hard enough to fulfill your dreams because they are the reward for that work. Others let themselves drift and believe that the universe will provide them with everything. What is certain is that everyone is right and everyone is wrong at the same time. How is this possible? Quite simply: spiritual contentment can be achieved differently for everyone.
Some people who work too hard at something and simply don't get it rewarded are often severely disappointed with life and take out their frustration or negative energy on others.
I know this all too well. I am a person who has little and had even less. I used to have more. But one thing is always clear to me: I have been happy at every stage of my 34 years. I've always felt content my whole life. Of course I've also had phases when I was in a bad mood, sad or simply angry. But these are moments or phases in life that no one can avoid. When I look back, I am happy with my life and also when I look forward, even though I don't recognize the path. WHY? The reason is simple: I enjoy the little pleasures that life has to offer. The moments when I am happy, when I feel at peace and when I am simply free. That's what makes my life so worth living.
I had been living on the streets for the last year and had no money for food, drink or, above all, a place to sleep. And although I was even rejected by institutions such as homeless shelters, soup kitchens and the station mission, I have - believe it or not - fond memories of that time. My life is not as sad as people always want to claim. I'm certainly a poor sausage when someone who is better off looks down on me or simply observes me. But the one thing that can't be taken away from me is my will, my joy and my soul. I laugh when I'm happy, cry when I'm sad, scream when I'm angry and am stunned when I'm shocked. But still, why should I be unhappy? I've seen more in the last two years than some people see in their entire lives. I have a job that I love despite all the difficulties. I have an unbreakable will.
Why am I telling you all this? Many people probably think I'm whining. But that's not the case. I am neither powerful nor omniscient. But since my childhood I have felt an energy within me that doesn't seem to belong to me, but is nevertheless a part of me. And I feel the same power in trees, the wind, rain, the sun and the earth. Every living being possesses this power. It is not the soul, but an energy that every form of existence needs in order to exist. It means more to me than it does to some, I think. I have felt my body growing and developing new skills all my life. First talking and walking, then running and jumping around. At some point I realized that I can see more than others and hear better. But better is not the right word. It's more like different. I hear different details than others. In any case, I have the impression. Of course, I also have my sense of smell and taste, but I always wonder whether that is as intense for everyone. I will probably seem like a weirdo to many people if I write all this. I've hardly ever talked to anyone about it either.
I recently spoke to a few people on TikTok Live, and well, I thought some of the things they said were ridiculous. However, I have to say that maybe it was just me. I see the world a little differently to other people, but that doesn't mean (as I'm always accused of) that I don't see reality. I believe that we humans live in different planes of existence. We primarily only perceive this one, but I think that's also because our perception is also split. And yet I believe that this split in perception can be removed to a certain extent, for example when we sleep. Of course, many (let's call them rational people) will now say that it's because our subconscious is working. But for my part, I don't think it's because of something like the subconscious. No, I think that we are simply more receptive to the other levels during sleep. A theory that I have also heard from others.
Now some of you will probably want to know how I think I use this energy or actively break through this level. Well, quite simply: not at all. I think it happens all by itself. I'm currently on this plane of existence, and that's fine. Maybe it will change when I die, maybe not. Nevertheless, I believe that I should just live my life as long as I can.
Back to the subject of energy: even as a child, I noticed that I felt freer and closer to nature, and therefore also to energy, when I wasn't wearing clothes. Of course, it could be my imagination, but in general it's nice to just look at the world in a relaxed way. In shoes, for example, you usually walk around carelessly and don't pay attention to where you're stepping or your surroundings (there are exceptions, of course). When you walk barefoot, you automatically look down more often. One advantage of this is that you can also see what is happening underneath you. For example, insects such as ants or other animals living on the ground. When you're naked, you can't just walk through bushes and shrubs, you have to be careful not to hurt yourself.
You feel your surroundings more intensely. You walk more slowly and carefully. You feel the wind, rain and sun. It's amazing how much reveals itself when you simply have the courage to look and listen. Just sit naked on a tree trunk or in the grass. Just go for your usual walk (if you have one) without shoes. You'll see what you're missing. And maybe you'll feel more than just what's visible around you.
What is also good, of course, is meditation. It occurs in many cultures and has been practiced for a long time by a wide variety of people. Some do it to calm their own energy or to escape from stress. Others do it to open up more to the energy around them. I do it myself, for example, to find inner peace, process my experiences and refocus. Admittedly, I'm still working on the last point. I started doing it very early on. I think I was 9 when I first came into contact with it. I don't do it nearly as often as I should, but I loved it then as I do now. The rhyme was unintentional. Anyway, I've realized for a long time that I need meditation and if I haven't done it for too long, I notice it in my mood.
I don't know what you do to find your inner peace or where you get your spiritual energy from - be it from your faith or another place. A long time ago, I tried Tai Chi myself. At the time, I wanted to learn this art because it works well as an energy catalyst in everyday life and allows energy to flow through the body without hurting anyone.
Energy is also affected positively and negatively by sleep and other things. Some people believe that there is positive and negative energy. But I don't believe that. Energy is never positive or negative. (By influence I mean the amount of energy you feel or carry within you). There are people who use their energy negatively, and there are others who perceive this and then believe that it is negative energy. In turn, many of them are also negatively influenced and use their energy in the same way. This has created the misconception that there is positive and negative energy. There is only energy, and how you use it is your own decision, but you can also change that. Someone who uses it negatively can also use it positively and vice versa. However, I believe that it is difficult for someone who mainly uses it negatively to use it positively, as opposed to someone who is always positive and uses it negatively. This is because negative use is much easier than positive use.
I have encountered so much negative energy in my life. Sorry, of course I mean people who spread negative energy. Unfortunately, to my shame, I have often allowed myself to be infected by it, but not always. It's amazing how easy it is to succumb to the seduction of negative influences. Your own will also plays a role in this. I always say that my will is weak. Others say that my will is strong. I just say: I think mine is weak. The reason for this is that I have seen, known or heard of people who had such a strong will that I feel more than puny. Some would call that negative thoughts. But that's not true. It may seem negative, but I look at it neutrally - neither negative nor positive. It's like the energy itself. It is simply there. I don't envy anyone who has more. But I pity those who have less. You could also interpret that as negative energy. The question is what happens when I use this supposedly negative energy to bring about something positive, for example by giving others some of my own happiness. (Happiness is just a word, it doesn't mean energy or a magical power, but simply a statement that you are helping someone).
I've been thinking lately about making reaction videos where I show how I react to videos where others are being helped - be it animals or people. You'd be surprised how quickly I get emotional and start crying. These are moments that make me happy when I see someone helping someone else. However, it's also frustrating to see how many people don't care about what they see or witness. When animals come up to a person and ask for help or when animals come to help people. There is so much love and good in the world, but yet so many try to destroy that because it's easier to laugh at others instead of helping them, because it's easier to ridicule them instead of encouraging them.
There is no such thing as positive or negative energy, only energy that is used positively or negatively. In most cases, it is used negatively. This raises the question: When energy is used negatively, is it stronger because there are more people doing it that way? In my opinion, no. I think that the energy that is used positively is more powerful because it is used for others. It allows you to use more energy. This energy is not created, it already exists. But unconsciously you use more energy for good than for bad. That's why fewer people perceive this positive energy, because there are fewer people who use it positively. It's also more difficult, as far as my theory goes, because more of it is used.
Last but not least, I would like to say a word about energy itself. We humans have largely forgotten how to feel this energy and no longer perceive it, even though it surrounds us and is within us. We don't realize how close it is to us. At the same time, we mock those who can because we think they are unrealistic or dreamy. Perhaps we simply envy them because we have forgotten how to do it. Everyone is born with this skill.
In conclusion, I would just like to say that the existence and provability of energy are there. You just have to be prepared to open your eyes and see it.
That's my idea and view of spirituality.
In a commune, all kinds of different people come together.
I know that I seem very crazy. Not everyone has to share, understand or be themselves.
Just go your own way, you'll find the right one.
My energy comes from within me and is all around me.
I look forward to your comments, feedback and opinions.
Your dragon.
Now that people are free of the oppression of wearing clothes and religious terror we need to feed them.
Self-sufficiency
with Dragon
The things that everyone needs
Food and water
Let's move on to less important things
That's an overview of the topic. I would be delighted to receive comments and feedback and hope that you will also enjoy the blog that has now been published.
Your Dragon
In life, you need a few things to stay alive. Some things are important and you can't do without them; others are less important and you can do without them. If you have a plan for self-sufficiency, whether privately or in this case in a community, you basically need something in order to ideally be dependent on as little or, in the best case, no outside help. Basically, you need to eat and drink in order to live. Therefore, we will first talk about the most important part. Then we will talk/write about the topic that is less important, but still relevant to the community. So, here we go.
Food and water
Phew, a self-sufficient community? Where do you start with something like that? When I ask myself questions like this, I always try to first make a plan of what exactly I need and what is important for survival. As I've been traveling a lot over the past year and sleeping outdoors at times, I've asked myself this question a lot, whether it's really essential things or just comforts.
What is essential for survival is food and water. No one in the world can survive without either, even plants need both. Water is comparatively simple. You have various options. You can draw water from wells or streams, but then you should boil it. This can be a little inconvenient. You could also collect it in containers, which should also be boiled, especially nowadays. Then you have the option of getting it from the supply water, where you get it from a remote water treatment plant and then, as almost everyone knows, it comes out of the tap as normal. Then there is the option of installing a water treatment plant within the municipality, where the water is treated directly on site so that you don't have to rely on outside help at all.
Either way, you still have to see how best to do it. Perhaps there are also methods that I don't know myself or that I can't think of at the moment.
In any case, it's up to the local authority to decide how best to deal with it. For my part, I believe that running water - whether for drinking, cooking or personal hygiene - is important and that we should strive for this in the municipality. In summer, it may also be possible to fall back on alternatives. I am open to suggestions and if it is environmentally friendly, all the better.
In terms of food, I think that at least chickens and cows are necessary as a basic supply. You don't need an endless number of cows like on a farm, as it's not for selling milk, but for self-sufficiency. The same applies to pigs and other animals for meat. I do know that there are also laws that if you have so and so many cows, you have to make levies or sell them, but I'm not exactly informed about that, and this information is decades old that I heard as a child. So it could be that it's different or that I didn't understand it at the time. In any case, this is how you should try to get eggs and milk. At best, you can make cheese as well as butter and even yogurt this way. I actually made butter and cheese as a child. It was very tiring and laborious to do by hand, but there are machines for it nowadays, depending on how modern you want to be.
In addition to milk and eggs, which can be used both individually and together for various foods, I would like to grow potatoes, beans, cucumbers (pickles and cucumbers) - as well as some other foods. What would also be important to me personally is fruit. Not only does it prevent some diseases, it is simply healthy and can also be used for sweet dishes, such as jam, cakes or other baked goods. I'm thinking of apples, pears, plums and cherries. Perhaps also something more exotic like oranges or mandarins, although in my experience (and yes, I have it), these don't grow so well in Germany. Another thing to consider is nuts. Something that grows well and quickly are hazelnuts. These also grow on bushes and are therefore very easy to harvest. Then there are walnuts, which are a bit more difficult because walnut trees can grow very tall, at least in my experience. Then, of course, strawberries. (Strawberries are not nuts? That's debatable, and yet they are traded as nuts). If necessary, you can get some fruit from outside from time to time. While we're on the subject, the question is whether you also want to grow your own wheat or whether you would prefer to regularly buy an extra year's supply for the community. This should be discussed and decided as a community.
Other things such as carrots, peppers, onions and a variety of other foods can be grown with enough garden or arable land. Of course, these are just suggestions. I realize that there are more, but I can't list everything, otherwise the post would be too long.
On the subject of meat: I respect the attitudes of vegans and vegetarians, but a healthy life with plant-based food is anything but easy, as humans also need protein. Humans are omnivores, but to be healthy you also need protein, which is most effectively obtained from meat. In consideration of vegetarians, I would suggest fish, as there are many vegetarians who eat fish.
However, I think that a vegan or vegetarian lifestyle is rather unsuitable for a commune. I'm not familiar with this myself, so I would like to discuss it in the group. Just one thing in advance: meat should not be completely eliminated, as this would put me and many others at a disadvantage and that would be just as much discrimination as the other way around. So, vegan and vegetarian is not completely off the table, don't worry. I would just like to point out that it is probably difficult to implement in a self-sufficient community. Leaving meat at dinner is easier than not offering it at all for those who want it, is what I'm saying.
I would like to return to the subject of meat. Fish is a relatively simple and good option that can be used in a variety of ways. I'm not just thinking of food, but also of leisure activities. The explanation is as follows: If you have a pond where you keep fish, you can also use it as a swimming pond in summer, for example. That would be killing two birds with one stone. Some experts will probably say that you shouldn't expect fat fish. Yes, I don't know much about this, but I do know a little from my childhood, and it's true that fish eat less if you use the pond for swimming. But you should look at the exact information, just as an aside. I would also recommend sheep and pigs, perhaps also goats, which you can usually keep well with sheep. Goats would of course also have the advantage of milk, cheese and butter.
Sheep would be an advantage if, for example, you want to make fabric or something similar from the wool - whether for sale or for your own use. Clothing is not necessarily needed, but I was thinking more of cushions, blankets or similar. And let me tell you, there's nothing better than sleeping on sheepskin. Hence the idea - but of course you don't always have to have sheep. With a commune, you always have to weigh up the cost-benefit factor. I could imagine that sheep eat too much and yield too little. So I would say it's better to concentrate on pigs, cows and chickens. Maybe geese too, because you can also use them for food and the feathers for pillows or blankets.
Other aspects of self-sufficiency include wild berries, fruit, nuts and mushrooms. Of course, availability always depends on the season. For example, rose hips and elderberries are easy to collect and grow practically everywhere. If you can find a suitable place, you can also pick blueberries. Mushrooms are of course a delicate matter and should only be picked by people who are familiar with them. As a child, I used to pick chestnuts (also known as chestnut mushrooms), porcini mushrooms and a few other species with my parents, but I would be reluctant to try it again today. I can manage porcini and chestnut mushrooms, but the rest is too risky for me. Still, I think it would be a good idea.
What is essential for survival is food and water. No one in the world can survive without either, even plants need both. Water is comparatively simple. You have various options. You can draw water from wells or streams, but then you should boil it. This can be a little inconvenient. You could also collect it in containers, which should also be boiled, especially nowadays. Then you have the option of getting it from the supply water, where you get it from a remote water treatment plant and then, as almost everyone knows, it comes out of the tap as normal. Then there is the option of installing a water treatment plant within the municipality, where the water is treated directly on site so that you don't have to rely on outside help at all.
Either way, you still have to see how best to do it. Perhaps there are also methods that I don't know myself or that I can't think of at the moment.
In any case, it's up to the local authority to decide how best to deal with it. For my part, I believe that running water - whether for drinking, cooking or personal hygiene - is important and that we should strive for this in the municipality. In summer, it may also be possible to fall back on alternatives. I am open to suggestions and if it is environmentally friendly, all the better.
In terms of food, I think that at least chickens and cows are necessary as a basic supply. You don't need an endless number of cows like on a farm, as it's not for selling milk, but for self-sufficiency. The same applies to pigs and other animals for meat. I do know that there are also laws that if you have so and so many cows, you have to make levies or sell them, but I'm not exactly informed about that, and this information is decades old that I heard as a child. So it could be that it's different or that I didn't understand it at the time. In any case, this is how you should try to get eggs and milk. At best, you can make cheese as well as butter and even yogurt this way. I actually made butter and cheese as a child. It was very tiring and laborious to do by hand, but there are machines for it nowadays, depending on how modern you want to be.
In addition to milk and eggs, which can be used both individually and together for various foods, I would like to grow potatoes, beans, cucumbers (pickles and cucumbers) - as well as some other foods. What would also be important to me personally is fruit. Not only does it prevent some diseases, it is simply healthy and can also be used for sweet dishes, such as jam, cakes or other baked goods. I'm thinking of apples, pears, plums and cherries. Perhaps also something more exotic like oranges or mandarins, although in my experience (and yes, I have it), these don't grow so well in Germany. Another thing to consider is nuts. Something that grows well and quickly are hazelnuts. These also grow on bushes and are therefore very easy to harvest. Then there are walnuts, which are a bit more difficult because walnut trees can grow very tall, at least in my experience. Then, of course, strawberries. (Strawberries are not nuts? That's debatable, and yet they are traded as nuts). If necessary, you can get some fruit from outside from time to time. While we're on the subject, the question is whether you also want to grow your own wheat or whether you would prefer to regularly buy an extra year's supply for the community. This should be discussed and decided as a community.
Other things such as carrots, peppers, onions and a variety of other foods can be grown with enough garden or arable land. Of course, these are just suggestions. I realize that there are more, but I can't list everything, otherwise the post would be too long.
On the subject of meat: I respect the attitudes of vegans and vegetarians, but a healthy life with plant-based food is anything but easy, as humans also need protein. Humans are omnivores, but to be healthy you also need protein, which is most effectively obtained from meat. In consideration of vegetarians, I would suggest fish, as there are many vegetarians who eat fish.
However, I think that a vegan or vegetarian lifestyle is rather unsuitable for a commune. I'm not familiar with this myself, so I would like to discuss it in the group. Just one thing in advance: meat should not be completely eliminated, as this would put me and many others at a disadvantage and that would be just as much discrimination as the other way around. So, vegan and vegetarian is not completely off the table, don't worry. I would just like to point out that it is probably difficult to implement in a self-sufficient community. Leaving meat at dinner is easier than not offering it at all for those who want it, is what I'm saying.
I would like to return to the subject of meat. Fish is a relatively simple and good option that can be used in a variety of ways. I'm not just thinking of food, but also of leisure activities. The explanation is as follows: If you have a pond where you keep fish, you can also use it as a swimming pond in summer, for example. That would be killing two birds with one stone. Some experts will probably say that you shouldn't expect fat fish. Yes, I don't know much about this, but I do know a little from my childhood, and it's true that fish eat less if you use the pond for swimming. But you should look at the exact information, just as an aside. I would also recommend sheep and pigs, perhaps also goats, which you can usually keep well with sheep. Goats would of course also have the advantage of milk, cheese and butter.
Sheep would be an advantage if, for example, you want to make fabric or something similar from the wool - whether for sale or for your own use. Clothing is not necessarily needed, but I was thinking more of cushions, blankets or similar. And let me tell you, there's nothing better than sleeping on sheepskin. Hence the idea - but of course you don't always have to have sheep. With a commune, you always have to weigh up the cost-benefit factor. I could imagine that sheep eat too much and yield too little. So I would say it's better to concentrate on pigs, cows and chickens. Maybe geese too, because you can also use them for food and the feathers for pillows or blankets.
Other aspects of self-sufficiency include wild berries, fruit, nuts and mushrooms. Of course, availability always depends on the season. For example, rose hips and elderberries are easy to collect and grow practically everywhere. If you can find a suitable place, you can also pick blueberries. Mushrooms are of course a delicate matter and should only be picked by people who are familiar with them. As a child, I used to pick chestnuts (also known as chestnut mushrooms), porcini mushrooms and a few other species with my parents, but I would be reluctant to try it again today. I can manage porcini and chestnut mushrooms, but the rest is too risky for me. Still, I think it would be a good idea.
Let's move on to less important things
Electricity and Internet - the Internet is not actually part of self-sufficiency, as you cannot create Internet access yourself. So let's start with electricity. The question is: what do you need for electricity? If possible, I would avoid wind turbines, as they stand out too much from nature and are also ugly. Solar cells are not pretty either, but perhaps easier to implement. If you have several buildings, such as two or three houses and two or three barns or halls, you can make good use of the roofs. Of course, you could also place them on the meadows or fields, but that takes up too much space and they don't look very nice. So it's better to put them on the roofs, as we only need them for self-sufficiency and not to earn money. However, I don't know how much something like this might cost. I've never looked into it, so unfortunately I can't say how it works.
The power supply should be a bit easier either way, but I'm not familiar with the legal requirements here. So you would have to find out more. I think it would be easiest if the local authority were to purchase the electricity from outside. On the other hand, it would certainly be more convenient as a local authority, especially with self-sufficiency, not to be dependent on outside sources, or at least as little as possible. After all, the concept of self-sufficiency is that you can do everything yourself.
water and its own wastewater treatment plant. I don't think it's quite so easy to implement this in a municipality itself. To be honest, I even imagine it to be more than difficult. Ultimately, you would have to google the subject and find out more. Water and electricity in particular are things that, if you manage to generate and use them yourself, would be a big step towards an independent community/municipality. I would prefer that, because it would make the whole thing simpler and give us a few less worries.
The power supply should be a bit easier either way, but I'm not familiar with the legal requirements here. So you would have to find out more. I think it would be easiest if the local authority were to purchase the electricity from outside. On the other hand, it would certainly be more convenient as a local authority, especially with self-sufficiency, not to be dependent on outside sources, or at least as little as possible. After all, the concept of self-sufficiency is that you can do everything yourself.
water and its own wastewater treatment plant. I don't think it's quite so easy to implement this in a municipality itself. To be honest, I even imagine it to be more than difficult. Ultimately, you would have to google the subject and find out more. Water and electricity in particular are things that, if you manage to generate and use them yourself, would be a big step towards an independent community/municipality. I would prefer that, because it would make the whole thing simpler and give us a few less worries.
That's an overview of the topic. I would be delighted to receive comments and feedback and hope that you will also enjoy the blog that has now been published.
Your Dragon
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2021
Now let's talk about whatever the fuck and write more essays about shit and stuff because why the fuck not.
The municipality topic Planning
by Drache January 05 , 2024
You may ask yourself now "Hey Onni, this sounds all good and fine but what is with private property? Am I allowed to bring my personal collection of Pokemon cards with me?" and fear not, Rainer will answer your question about
The municipality topic Personal property
by Dragon January 05, 2024
The municipality topic Planning
by Drache January 05 , 2024
A list with the current targets
List of basics
First of all, these are the basic things. I know some people think a lot of things are missing, and it's not exactly detailed. Maybe you find a place before you have people together. Or maybe you find people but no place and you've already ticked off point three or four. Ultimately, you can't create a 100% plan for something like this, but before you send children to school, for example, or food that runs out, you have people who consume food and a place where you can grow it. Hence the list for now. I'm sure more lists will follow over time that are more specific and go into more detail. For example, I am often asked what requirements you have to fulfill to be accepted into the community. Then people ask me what goods or how much of their possessions they can bring with them. Over time, more detailed lists will follow.
But before I or we can say who can bring what, we first need people and, above all, a place to store and use it. It's no good if someone wants to join the commune and break up their entire household and bring or sell everything they own if they don't have anywhere to go. So, I hope that was understandable for the last person. Some people ask things that can only be implemented after a year or two. That makes me wonder what their lives are like. You can't start in the middle of the list. After all, you read a book from the prologue to the end and not from the end backwards or from the middle.
As always, I look forward to feedback, remember the comments. They are set so that only I can read them, so it's all good. They have to be unlocked by me personally.
Your Dragon.
Hello, I have been asked many questions in the Discord that are not currently in the planning stage as there is no group yet and therefore no decisions can be made. I do not have a bigger voice than any others and therefore cannot answer questions that have nothing to do with me, such as questions about children and schools. I also cannot answer questions that affect the entire community, such as questions about electricity, water and food supplies. I do have plans, which you already know if you read the blog, but nothing has been finalized yet. So today I'm going to make you a list of the things that have top priority at the moment. You can't cook if you're already ready and sitting at the table. Everything starts with getting the ingredients, and that's the case here too.
List of basics
1, A group of people who want to join the commune.
(Since neither the land nor buildings or number of goods required. Because there is no information yet on how many people will live in the commune. Therefore, there is also no information about how many houses or goods would be needed).
2, Land Land and buildings.
(Once you have gathered enough people for the idea, you can start thinking about the location. So the land. Then you also know how much space you need for the inhabitants and how much food and other things are needed).
3, Tools and possibly machines
(Agriculture also requires machines and tools, depending on the extent to which it is practiced - depending on what you want to and can do yourself. In addition, tools are also needed for everyday tasks such as dishes and other items, as well as anything else that is needed).
4, A work and leisure plan.
(Everyone in such a community has to pitch in. However, since everyone has different information, knowledge and skills, you have to look carefully at who can and wants to do which tasks. The commune is dependent on being provided with everything that is needed).
5, A cost plan.
(Since there will be costs here and there in the community - albeit not for the residents, but for the community as a whole - it's best to have someone who is familiar with this and can draw up a cost plan. This way, there is enough money to spend on everything that is necessary, such as health insurance, internet, water and electricity if it is sourced from outside. You should also make sure you have enough reserves in case you need more than usual or if you need to do major things such as repairs or renovations).
6, Additional income.
(As soon as everything is in place and the community as such is slowly consolidated (think at least one to two years after founding and moving into the place where the community will eventually be located), you can talk about additional income. For example, a campsite where outsiders can occasionally spend two or more days/weeks on vacation. You can also think about alternatives, such as selling food in the event of overcrowding or other options. There will be a separate article on this sometime later
[The topic of camping sites is something that is only addressed late in the commune. But first of all, the place where the commune is created is important for vacationers, I would say].
(Since neither the land nor buildings or number of goods required. Because there is no information yet on how many people will live in the commune. Therefore, there is also no information about how many houses or goods would be needed).
2, Land Land and buildings.
(Once you have gathered enough people for the idea, you can start thinking about the location. So the land. Then you also know how much space you need for the inhabitants and how much food and other things are needed).
3, Tools and possibly machines
(Agriculture also requires machines and tools, depending on the extent to which it is practiced - depending on what you want to and can do yourself. In addition, tools are also needed for everyday tasks such as dishes and other items, as well as anything else that is needed).
4, A work and leisure plan.
(Everyone in such a community has to pitch in. However, since everyone has different information, knowledge and skills, you have to look carefully at who can and wants to do which tasks. The commune is dependent on being provided with everything that is needed).
5, A cost plan.
(Since there will be costs here and there in the community - albeit not for the residents, but for the community as a whole - it's best to have someone who is familiar with this and can draw up a cost plan. This way, there is enough money to spend on everything that is necessary, such as health insurance, internet, water and electricity if it is sourced from outside. You should also make sure you have enough reserves in case you need more than usual or if you need to do major things such as repairs or renovations).
6, Additional income.
(As soon as everything is in place and the community as such is slowly consolidated (think at least one to two years after founding and moving into the place where the community will eventually be located), you can talk about additional income. For example, a campsite where outsiders can occasionally spend two or more days/weeks on vacation. You can also think about alternatives, such as selling food in the event of overcrowding or other options. There will be a separate article on this sometime later
[The topic of camping sites is something that is only addressed late in the commune. But first of all, the place where the commune is created is important for vacationers, I would say].
First of all, these are the basic things. I know some people think a lot of things are missing, and it's not exactly detailed. Maybe you find a place before you have people together. Or maybe you find people but no place and you've already ticked off point three or four. Ultimately, you can't create a 100% plan for something like this, but before you send children to school, for example, or food that runs out, you have people who consume food and a place where you can grow it. Hence the list for now. I'm sure more lists will follow over time that are more specific and go into more detail. For example, I am often asked what requirements you have to fulfill to be accepted into the community. Then people ask me what goods or how much of their possessions they can bring with them. Over time, more detailed lists will follow.
But before I or we can say who can bring what, we first need people and, above all, a place to store and use it. It's no good if someone wants to join the commune and break up their entire household and bring or sell everything they own if they don't have anywhere to go. So, I hope that was understandable for the last person. Some people ask things that can only be implemented after a year or two. That makes me wonder what their lives are like. You can't start in the middle of the list. After all, you read a book from the prologue to the end and not from the end backwards or from the middle.
As always, I look forward to feedback, remember the comments. They are set so that only I can read them, so it's all good. They have to be unlocked by me personally.
Your Dragon.
You may ask yourself now "Hey Onni, this sounds all good and fine but what is with private property? Am I allowed to bring my personal collection of Pokemon cards with me?" and fear not, Rainer will answer your question about
The municipality topic Personal property
by Dragon January 05, 2024
Personal property topic
I'm writing this whole post from the beginning again now because I've just decided that it's probably easiest and fairest to proceed as follows. Of course, this is just my opinion. However, if a group of different people are found who are willing to start this commune with me, you can of course start again. But read first, I think that would be the fairest way.
Items Furniture and other property
In the event of leaving the municipality
That's it for now. If anyone has any ideas or information or has even had any experience with this, I would be delighted to receive feedback. This could certainly be of interest to many people. As always, you are welcome to write the information in the comments. I am the only one who can read it before it is published. This means that if you have information that you don't want anyone to read, you can of course send it to me first and tell me not to publish it.
Your dragon
I'm writing this whole post from the beginning again now because I've just decided that it's probably easiest and fairest to proceed as follows. Of course, this is just my opinion. However, if a group of different people are found who are willing to start this commune with me, you can of course start again. But read first, I think that would be the fairest way.
Items Furniture and other property
I am constantly thinking about how to set up a commune. I'm also thinking about personal and worldly possessions and how to deal with them. Of course, this can then be decided collectively as a group and adapted depending on the person or situation. The opinion of each individual is important and everyone can decide for themselves how they want. So that would be my plan:
As you always have to expect that someone will move out of a commune - whether due to disinterest, dissatisfaction or other reasons - there is always the risk that someone will decide to move out of the commune at short notice. If someone has brought a lot of personal belongings with them, the problem arises that they naturally also have the right to take them with them. I would therefore suggest that this should not be done at all.
I would say that anyone who moves into the commune has the right to sell or otherwise store their belongings. If that person then leaves the commune, they either still have their personal possessions and can live a completely separate life as they please, or if they have brought money with them, they will be compensated and can then re-stock up on property.
In plain language and in summary, this means that anyone who comes to the community should perhaps only bring financial support and as few possessions as possible, as the community works together to obtain what it needs. This is why the members provide financial support. For my part, I have already decided that I will provide the commune with what little I still have, including the income I earn from my work. What you (i.e. those who want to join the commune) bring with you is ultimately up to you, but remember: it is wisest to be aware that you cannot claim ownership if you leave the commune, as it is considered a kind of donation to the community. As I said, I don't want to take anything away from anyone, so it's no problem for me if you don't want to bring something to the commune and want to put it somewhere else instead.
As you always have to expect that someone will move out of a commune - whether due to disinterest, dissatisfaction or other reasons - there is always the risk that someone will decide to move out of the commune at short notice. If someone has brought a lot of personal belongings with them, the problem arises that they naturally also have the right to take them with them. I would therefore suggest that this should not be done at all.
I would say that anyone who moves into the commune has the right to sell or otherwise store their belongings. If that person then leaves the commune, they either still have their personal possessions and can live a completely separate life as they please, or if they have brought money with them, they will be compensated and can then re-stock up on property.
In plain language and in summary, this means that anyone who comes to the community should perhaps only bring financial support and as few possessions as possible, as the community works together to obtain what it needs. This is why the members provide financial support. For my part, I have already decided that I will provide the commune with what little I still have, including the income I earn from my work. What you (i.e. those who want to join the commune) bring with you is ultimately up to you, but remember: it is wisest to be aware that you cannot claim ownership if you leave the commune, as it is considered a kind of donation to the community. As I said, I don't want to take anything away from anyone, so it's no problem for me if you don't want to bring something to the commune and want to put it somewhere else instead.
In the event of leaving the municipality
As has just been explained, many people are interested in the question of what happens if I want to leave the commune? I'm not a fan of bureaucracy, but in Germany you are subject to certain legal conditions. That's why I'm thinking about signing a contract when you join the commune, which you of course clarify with the commune and then a lawyer and sign when you join. It lists what you have to bring with you and what you are entitled to when you leave the commune. However, I don't know exactly, or rather, how others handle and regulate this. I would therefore only classify this as an idea for the time being.
For more information, I will ask other municipalities how they handle it. The concept is not new. In addition, the decision would ultimately be up to the municipality as a group, of course, and it would be regulated within the group. Communication is everything, isn't that what they say?
How high the costs are if someone wants to leave the municipality again depends, of course, on the costs that the person has brought with them within the municipality - whether financial or material. The amount of compensation is also calculated accordingly. But as I said, I think everyone is happy with that. Should this be regulated via a contract or something similar? There will be more information soon.
For more information, I will ask other municipalities how they handle it. The concept is not new. In addition, the decision would ultimately be up to the municipality as a group, of course, and it would be regulated within the group. Communication is everything, isn't that what they say?
How high the costs are if someone wants to leave the municipality again depends, of course, on the costs that the person has brought with them within the municipality - whether financial or material. The amount of compensation is also calculated accordingly. But as I said, I think everyone is happy with that. Should this be regulated via a contract or something similar? There will be more information soon.
That's it for now. If anyone has any ideas or information or has even had any experience with this, I would be delighted to receive feedback. This could certainly be of interest to many people. As always, you are welcome to write the information in the comments. I am the only one who can read it before it is published. This means that if you have information that you don't want anyone to read, you can of course send it to me first and tell me not to publish it.
Your dragon
- Joined
- Sep 25, 2021
Wow. That's a lot of text, isn't it?
Did you get lost?
Are you thinking "Gee, Onni, I got lost. I wish there would be a FAQ bc I have a lot of question and I need answers!"?
Well, after Rainer had an extra channel for exact this situation on his Discord server -which got raided by trolls and led to Rainer closing his Discord and is now only allowing people to join after they threw money at him- he was so kind to put up a FAQ blog post!
The municipality Questions and answers
by Drachne January 05, 2024
Did you get lost?
Are you thinking "Gee, Onni, I got lost. I wish there would be a FAQ bc I have a lot of question and I need answers!"?
Well, after Rainer had an extra channel for exact this situation on his Discord server -which got raided by trolls and led to Rainer closing his Discord and is now only allowing people to join after they threw money at him- he was so kind to put up a FAQ blog post!
The municipality Questions and answers
by Drachne January 05, 2024
Questions and answers
It's clear that many people have questions about the commune. However, I hadn't expected that so many people would get in touch and seem to be interested, judging by their statements (unfortunately, you never know who is serious and who just wants to hate). Some questions will be explained in more detail next week, so I'll leave them out until then. I ask for your understanding. By the way, you can also post questions as comments, which I will then answer in further posts. Let's get started.
Incidentally, there are many questions that I can only answer from my point of view, but which can ultimately be implemented very differently in the municipality. This is because the municipality is a project in which joint decisions are to be made. This means that I can only give my personal opinion here. This is stated here and there in individual posts, but again. In general, however, it applies to everything.
Questions and answers
It's clear that many people have questions about the commune. However, I hadn't expected that so many people would get in touch and seem to be interested, judging by their statements (unfortunately, you never know who is serious and who just wants to hate). Some questions will be explained in more detail next week, so I'll leave them out until then. I ask for your understanding. By the way, you can also post questions as comments, which I will then answer in further posts. Let's get started.
Incidentally, there are many questions that I can only answer from my point of view, but which can ultimately be implemented very differently in the municipality. This is because the municipality is a project in which joint decisions are to be made. This means that I can only give my personal opinion here. This is stated here and there in individual posts, but again. In general, however, it applies to everything.
Questions and answers
1 The basic question has already been answered here. But briefly summarized: Since it is not yet clear where you will need everything and how much space you will ultimately have as a community on the final property, this is a question that can only be clarified in detail when the time comes.
2, So, there is an article on this topic. However, as I don't assume that everyone reads everything, I'll summarize briefly here. In general, nothing is forced on anyone. It is desired and welcome, but not forced. How you ultimately deal with it and how it is implemented in the long term, however, remains a group decision that I cannot answer for you, as there is no group yet. My opinion is that ultimately everyone can or should decide for themselves. Since there will sometimes be situations in which someone wears clothing, be it because of a job to protect them from the cold or, in the case of the ladies, I could imagine for hygienic reasons during certain periods. I'm not that familiar with it.
3, In general, I would say yes, but it is important that the commune functions and runs smoothly. This includes independent care, community activities and other aspects such as spirituality or naturism. An attempt should be made to find people who are willing and perhaps already have experience with individual points in order to work hard in the start-up phase. Especially at the beginning it will be difficult to implement things, be it the renovation of the houses, agriculture for food production or animal husbandry. It's not an easy task. In general, I would say yes, but there are also certain criteria. I will be writing more posts on the subject of applications, in which I will also go into the criteria for an application.
If the municipality has been in existence for a long time, an application could still be successful, but this also depends on the decision of the group.
If the municipality has been in existence for a long time, an application could still be successful, but this also depends on the decision of the group.
4,You should first ask the question: What is meant by "more rights"? More freedom of choice? Ultimately, everyone is allowed to live as they wish in the community as long as they contribute and do not harm anyone. There are neither more nor fewer rights. And when decisions are made, for example about purchases, they are made as a group. You can't give one person more rights than everyone else, because everyone in the group has to contribute. The aim is also to free oneself from thoughts about commerce or consumption and not to be envious of others just because you have less than they do.
5, So first of all, the question arises as to how much you actually need for the commune. Machines will certainly have to be purchased. However, there is also the question of how much yield you need, as we want to work together in the commune and not work commercially (i.e. not sell the goods, unless there are surpluses). So we don't need machines that are too big. I'm already thinking about it, but we don't yet know what we need. We also want to do it on a smaller scale. Our aim is not to make money, but to be self-sufficient. As we probably won't be growing wheat, we probably won't need any larger equipment.
6, This question caught me off guard, because I had considered it fleetingly at the beginning. To be honest, I would like to found a reasonably balanced commune in which there is a roughly equal number of men and women. However, as the commune should also support the principle of free love, including same-sex love and relationships, this is only a rough guideline. Basically, I would like it to be more or less balanced, but there are no precise guidelines.
7, Again, I have already made various statements on this. I would try to aim for 24 to start with, as this is a balanced number. However, it is important to mention that only adults are meant here. The reason for this is that I think this is enough people to get the commune off to a reasonable start. At the same time, however, I also think that this figure is unrealistic. I have looked at many reports and most communities have between 15 and 20 members. So I think for a start you should aim for 10. Later on, I would try to get to 30. However, as it is also about self-sufficiency, the community should not become too large. I would therefore set the maximum number at 50. (Again, these are just my thoughts. The decisions are always made in the group when the time comes).
8, I have to say, I thought that was an excellent question. I've already hinted at it in the place and in the building. I meant that you could make dormitories for reasons of space. I myself am someone who likes to have some peace and quiet. That's why I think you need a retreat where you can be alone or just the two or three of you. In general, it depends on the possibilities, but yes, I would like to have a place where you can relax or get away from it all. This is also important to me because I like to be alone sometimes.
9, Well, basically I would say no. But it depends on how it happens. If someone joins the commune and has debts that he or she has incurred as a result of living in the commune, then yes. However, if the debts originate from the time before the commune, then no. Because when someone joins a commune, he or she should preferably have no debts or at least be able to pay for them independently. This means that if someone joins the commune, where no money is needed, and the person has debts, they must look for a job outside the commune to pay them off. However, the obligations for the municipality itself should not fall by the wayside, as everyone must be able to rely on everyone else.
10, Well, to be honest, I have no idea. As this is not my area, as usual, you first need a number of people who live in the community. Then you need to know how much everyone consumes or eats. However, I can't say that in advance, and I hope that we will have someone in the commune who can deal with this better than I can.
11,Of course, this also includes garden or cultivated land and grazing land for animals. Now, as has been repeated several times, the same applies here: How many people live in the community? You have to consider how many you want to have. Accordingly, you also need enough land to provide for more people than you might have at the beginning in order to be able to accommodate more if necessary.
In short, unfortunately the question cannot be answered at the moment because it depends on the final total number that you want to achieve.
In short, unfortunately the question cannot be answered at the moment because it depends on the final total number that you want to achieve.
12, I just made a post about this here yesterday. The short version again: Everyone can bring whatever they want. However, you should bear in mind that it can be difficult to divide everything up again if you leave. I therefore believe that you should only bring financial support and then use it to make joint purchases. Store or sell the other things outside the community.
Sounds hard, I think, but it's the fairest solution. If someone moves into the commune and is sure to stay until the bitter end, that's fine. But if he leaves before that, it's hard to separate his original property, because there's not supposed to be much of a claim of ownership within the commune.
Sounds hard, I think, but it's the fairest solution. If someone moves into the commune and is sure to stay until the bitter end, that's fine. But if he leaves before that, it's hard to separate his original property, because there's not supposed to be much of a claim of ownership within the commune.
13, They are definitely important, but there is no reason to set them up yet.
You need people at the beginning. Without people, you can't look for a plot of land or properties, and everything stands or falls with that.
If you have a group of people and want to implement the plan, you can draw up cost plans and look at properties, preferably as a group too. After all, this is a group project, not something I'm doing on my own.
I emphasize again: it's about the group, not about me. We have the say as a group.
You need people at the beginning. Without people, you can't look for a plot of land or properties, and everything stands or falls with that.
If you have a group of people and want to implement the plan, you can draw up cost plans and look at properties, preferably as a group too. After all, this is a group project, not something I'm doing on my own.
I emphasize again: it's about the group, not about me. We have the say as a group.
14, That ultimately depends on the interests of each individual. But I think joint sporting activities or spiritual things in general, such as meditation, yoga and the like, are important. Meditation is not necessarily something you have to or can do together, but it's just an example. So, for my part, I think you should do something like that, also because it can strengthen the cohesion of the group.
15, First of all, that's wrong. Monogamy is not forbidden. There are no prohibitions in this sense in the community I talked about in this post. Couples or people who are monogamous will probably not be happy in such an open commune. It's not even about polyamory, but generally about the fact that openness of this kind is unthinkable for many. Furthermore, there is no obligation to have sex. It's not a swingers party (and even there, no one is forced to do anything they don't want to), but a commune in which freedom is at the center. In short: nothing must, everything can. Please don't let any sneaky campaigns on the Internet feed you false information. They do this because they want to harm the project and me in particular.
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After some backlash for his new plans bc of naked kids and sex Rainer decided to clear things up with a new blog post about the age of people, people being nude and shit.
The commune theme generations
by Drache January 09, 2024
So no kids allowed in the commune of freedom and nude people.
The commune theme generations
by Drache January 09, 2024
Topic Generations
The topic will initially have one main point. Originally I wanted to ignore the topic for now, but it has turned out that too many people are currently spreading a wave of lies. It's too extreme. For this reason, I have now decided to address this issue for now after all and change part of the original commune plan.
(Therefore, I will also carefully reread and amend previously published posts).
This topic here will have a total of three sections, and we will proceed as follows. We will start with children, then adults and finally older ladies and gentlemen. In this way, I hope to avoid misunderstandings and lies once and for all.
The topic of children
Topic adults
Topic 50+
Actually, there is not much more to say. Of course, nudism (naturism) is encouraged here too. It is not compulsory for anyone, but should actually be practiced with pleasure. And other things such as spirituality and self-sufficiency. But that applies to all members of the community.
Well, I hope I haven't forgotten. Remember, you are welcome to write comments at any time.
Your dragon
The topic will initially have one main point. Originally I wanted to ignore the topic for now, but it has turned out that too many people are currently spreading a wave of lies. It's too extreme. For this reason, I have now decided to address this issue for now after all and change part of the original commune plan.
(Therefore, I will also carefully reread and amend previously published posts).
This topic here will have a total of three sections, and we will proceed as follows. We will start with children, then adults and finally older ladies and gentlemen. In this way, I hope to avoid misunderstandings and lies once and for all.
The topic of children
Originally, I wanted a commune in which everyone, and that meant everyone, can and may live freely. But since our society is so sick that it only has deviant species on its mind, I now want to change my plan.
About the original plan:
I had planned a commune with a spiritual and self-sufficient background as well as naturism. Now, however, it has turned out that many people are falsely portraying me as a pedophile, although this is not the case, and keep harping on about it. Children and nudism are excluded. The idea of children and nudism didn't even come from me originally, and there are many people around the world for whom it doesn't matter. (It's just repulsive that someone thinks of nudism as sex with children. I was very shocked by that. Apart from that, not everyone automatically thinks of sex when they think of nudism). But well, it's all about me again and of course you have to pour oil on the fire again so that the shit flies around your ears.
There were no plans for children at all, instead a commune was planned that would last for several generations. As a child, I was already in a nudist situation and don't know any different, and that's how many others feel. That's why I didn't give it much thought at all. Now, however, many other people are pestering me about this topic. That's why there's now a change of plan.
About the plan as it now stands.
Children are not welcome in the commune, which means that the commune is only for people aged 18 and over. That's a shame and will make it difficult to be an intergenerational commune. But I don't see any other option. In other words, people who have children or wish to have children cannot apply for the commune. For my part, I came to terms with not having children of my own years ago, even though it was difficult for me. So it affects me too. So once again for everyone: children - there will be no children in the commune.
About the original plan:
I had planned a commune with a spiritual and self-sufficient background as well as naturism. Now, however, it has turned out that many people are falsely portraying me as a pedophile, although this is not the case, and keep harping on about it. Children and nudism are excluded. The idea of children and nudism didn't even come from me originally, and there are many people around the world for whom it doesn't matter. (It's just repulsive that someone thinks of nudism as sex with children. I was very shocked by that. Apart from that, not everyone automatically thinks of sex when they think of nudism). But well, it's all about me again and of course you have to pour oil on the fire again so that the shit flies around your ears.
There were no plans for children at all, instead a commune was planned that would last for several generations. As a child, I was already in a nudist situation and don't know any different, and that's how many others feel. That's why I didn't give it much thought at all. Now, however, many other people are pestering me about this topic. That's why there's now a change of plan.
About the plan as it now stands.
Children are not welcome in the commune, which means that the commune is only for people aged 18 and over. That's a shame and will make it difficult to be an intergenerational commune. But I don't see any other option. In other words, people who have children or wish to have children cannot apply for the commune. For my part, I came to terms with not having children of my own years ago, even though it was difficult for me. So it affects me too. So once again for everyone: children - there will be no children in the commune.
Topic adults
As there will not and should not be any children in the municipality after all, the municipality is dependent on people who are as young as possible, i.e. 20 years and older. For my part, I don't see it happening, but we'll see what happens. I think either the commune won't last long or there will be a kind of waxing and waning number of members, as some will join and then leave again. However, self-sufficiency, nudism and spirituality are still a big issue. So that should be clear to anyone who wants to join the commune.
As an adult, I would say that anyone between the ages of 18 and 50 (without wanting to offend anyone) applies. Of course, anyone over this age is welcome to apply at any time, as soon as we are looking for applicants (not yet). As you have to be actively involved in the municipality and everyone should make their contribution, it would be good if everyone had different professions, experience or knowledge, as already mentioned. As the municipality deals with a wide variety of things and will be involved in different ways, this is a great advantage compared to everyone having to learn certain things first.
For example: I'm not unskilled with my hands (many are certainly better, but I can do something too). I have a little knowledge of gardening and farming as well as knowledge of sheep, goats, horses, dogs, cats and various types of poultry, including pheasants, partridges and pigeons, to name but a few of the more unusual ones. I am also quite capable of driving vehicles such as tractors and know how to operate various machines needed in agriculture and horticulture. So just as a little insight, I also have other skills such as engineering and cooking, to name just one example.
As an adult, I would say that anyone between the ages of 18 and 50 (without wanting to offend anyone) applies. Of course, anyone over this age is welcome to apply at any time, as soon as we are looking for applicants (not yet). As you have to be actively involved in the municipality and everyone should make their contribution, it would be good if everyone had different professions, experience or knowledge, as already mentioned. As the municipality deals with a wide variety of things and will be involved in different ways, this is a great advantage compared to everyone having to learn certain things first.
For example: I'm not unskilled with my hands (many are certainly better, but I can do something too). I have a little knowledge of gardening and farming as well as knowledge of sheep, goats, horses, dogs, cats and various types of poultry, including pheasants, partridges and pigeons, to name but a few of the more unusual ones. I am also quite capable of driving vehicles such as tractors and know how to operate various machines needed in agriculture and horticulture. So just as a little insight, I also have other skills such as engineering and cooking, to name just one example.
Topic 50+
I don't know the average age of people who choose to live in a commune. I've heard and seen pretty much everything. However, since the question of how old you can be in a commune also plays a role, this is where the information comes in.
Originally, I said that you can be between 1 and 100 years old. Now, however, the rule is that you can take part from the age of 18 and there is no upper limit. If you want to take part, you can; if you don't want to, you shouldn't.
I am of the opinion, and always have been, that someone who is older is excellent at pretty much everything he or she can do. The reasons for this are, of course, long life and experience. Incidentally, I don't see anyone as old, no matter how many years they have behind them. Everyone has value and makes a contribution in one way or another.
Originally, I said that you can be between 1 and 100 years old. Now, however, the rule is that you can take part from the age of 18 and there is no upper limit. If you want to take part, you can; if you don't want to, you shouldn't.
I am of the opinion, and always have been, that someone who is older is excellent at pretty much everything he or she can do. The reasons for this are, of course, long life and experience. Incidentally, I don't see anyone as old, no matter how many years they have behind them. Everyone has value and makes a contribution in one way or another.
Actually, there is not much more to say. Of course, nudism (naturism) is encouraged here too. It is not compulsory for anyone, but should actually be practiced with pleasure. And other things such as spirituality and self-sufficiency. But that applies to all members of the community.
Well, I hope I haven't forgotten. Remember, you are welcome to write comments at any time.
Your dragon
So no kids allowed in the commune of freedom and nude people.
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Who does not love a good FAQ where every answer is a variation of "Basically, I don't know. I guess it will depend on the community. And right now, there is no community so we can't budget for what they will need".
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niggas' 30+ year old ass' mindset is just the same as a kid who entered puberty for life.