Inactive Ralph Stuart Baker III / Rani Bakr / Ranilda Baeddel / Ranilda Burdizzo / SatanicPanic!AtTheDisco - The Glue that Holds the Rat King Together, "Fake Goth" Conspiratard, The One Rat King We Actually Liked

[Meowthkip]

I asked, Google told.

For those who'd rather be spared the full details, the linked article is by a postop transwoman who ended up with an ano-vaginal fistula which a half-dozen other surgeries have not fixed. She has had to use a colostomy bag ever since. Further horror lurks in the comments as SRS patients discuss painful dilation, repeated UTIs, overgrowth of granulation tissue causing bleeding and requiring external cautery, and botched FTM phalloplasty leaving the victim with an, and I quote, unfinished tentacle-THING that looks like it had its head bitten off hanging from my crotch that I can't pee out of, feel, or do anything with. The answer to exactly how badly this can be fucked up would appear to be 'pretty damn bad', and that's without mentioning the patients who die on the table. Because yeah, SRS surgery carries the risks of any other major surgical procedure, and having it done can kill you.

I see now why so many people avoid SRS.

 

[WeaponsGradeAutism]

Honestly, when doctors recommend a certain standard before they do surgery, it's not a suggestion. It's due to the fact they know there's a 10 percent or so chance of complete fuckup like the above mentioned. When they say that Jazz Jennings won't get his cocklet chopped into a faux pussy, that's because they need certain baselines or they risk completely fucking up the entire operation. Also, they're redoing the natural plumbing into an unnatrual state.

But go ahead troons, fuck with nature without listening to the guys who do. And then when they tell you NOT TO DO THIS, keep ignoring that. That's why people like ol LaBellend have been turned down. His brain is fucked and his body is probably a horror in the bloodwork. And the NHS isn't going to risk killing the big faggot to satisfy his penis chopping fetish.

But, what do doctors know, they're all cishet scum who don't care about troon fantasies.

 

[repentance]

Now I'm scared.
How bad do they have to fuck up to have you look weird by the standards of artificial pussy?
Like, how is this a thing? And why is she talking about it in terms of such horror?

It's common for SRS to need "revisions" and most surgeons do them free of charge. Unfortunately, sometimes the revisions only make the problems even worse. She'd honestly need opinions from couple of surgeons to know whether or not she's stuck with what she's got now.

Complications happen. They happen often enough that there are entire TV series on botched cosmetic surgery. Most of them aren't even a result of the surgeon fucking up.

 

[Teeter]

God, Ralph. Are you really so desperate for pity-pats that you post the most embarrassing shit about yourself for the world to see?

But if you're dishing details..
Which Cronenbergian nightmare does your cut-rate aftermarket hack job resemble?

The pod from Existenz? James Woods's stomach in Videodrome? The guy's head after it exploded in Scanners? The famous armpit vagina from Rabid?

 

[Meowthkip]

God, Ralph. Are you really so desperate for pity-pats that you post the most embarrassing shit about yourself for the world to see?

But if you're dishing details..
Which Cronenbergian nightmare does your cut-rate aftermarket hack job resemble?

The pod from Existenz? James Woods's stomach in Videodrome? The guy's head after it exploded in Scanners? The famous armpit vagina from Rabid?

It looks like Brundlefly.

 

[AnOminous]

Complications happen. They happen often enough that there are entire TV series on botched cosmetic surgery. Most of them aren't even a result of the surgeon fucking up.

I'll note I'm not saying the characterization of the surgery as "botched" is necessarily true, just because it didn't have a good result. There are inch-thick piles of waivers and other shit you have to sign before any procedure of this sort.

Still, if they are botched, malpractice is a thing. When medical care falls below an objectively professional standard, that's actionable. This is why malpractice premiums get so high. Doctors and lawyers both pay through the nose for coverage for this, and that's even if they've never fucked up. Once they do fuck up, or even show signs of possibly fucking up in the future, it goes through the roof.

Professionals are held to a professional standard, not a normal person standard.

This is both good and bad, if you happen to be one of those professionals. It's bad, in the sense that you're held to a higher standard than ordinary people when you're sued. It's good, in the sense that anyone wanting to sue you for falling below a professional standard has to dredge up a professional in the same field as you to testify, as a professional in that field, that you fell below that standard.

Guess how popular doctors are who routinely testify against other doctors? If you guessed "not very" you'd be right. Doctors are often reluctant to testify against each other. So if you want to get a malpractice case started, the law firm probably taking it on contingency, if you're not a millionaire who can pay six figures up front, has to hire one of these medical experts to testify, and those guys also want their money up front, so any law firm taking it on contingency to the point they'll front expenses for this has to be pretty sure they're going to win.

Still, if Rani actually got a botch job, I hope she considers a malpractice suit.

If it's just unsatisfactory for reasons that have nothing to do with the competence of the doctor, suck it up, I guess, but only an expert could really say whether that's the case.

 

[Yoshimura_Takahashi]

ano-vaginal fistula

To quote Betty White "That was my stripper name"

 

[Smutley]

I would think there'd be some kind of warranty that came with this kinda thing but I guess not. Don't forget that giving the tiniest damn what your sex partner's genitals are like is twanzphobic!

Still, if they are botched, malpractice is a thing. When medical care falls below an objectively professional standard, that's actionable. This is why malpractice premiums get so high. Doctors and lawyers both pay through the nose for coverage for this, and that's even if they've never fucked up. Once they do fuck up, or even show signs of possibly fucking up in the future, it goes through the roof.

So "botched" and "malpractice" are thrown around a lot, but it's not just a simple static issue. A patients dissatisfaction at the "botched" treatment generally won't hold up because it doesn't fit the definition of malpractice. Here are a couple case studies that I'd like you all to pick out which are legally considered malpractice:

1. A 42 year old woman with a small, but malignant brain tumor is given chemo and radiation treatments based off the incorrect charts of a 78 year old male with terminal bone cancer. After 3 rounds of highly aggressive treatments the correct charts are discovered and correct treatments applied.
2. A 66 year old man undergoes treatment for one of two total knees despite being obese. He is never able to walk unaided again and stays primarily in a wheelchair.
3. A 25 year old woman has three surgeries on her right hand to fix damage caused by a car accident. On the second surgery, a nerve is nicked and the woman irreparably loses feeling in her hand. The rest of the damage is repaired successfully.
4. A 33 year old man has a large cyst growing on his lateral plantar nerve which causes pain every time he moves his foot or hits the marble-sized growth. Upon having it removed, the wound becomes badly infected and requires three months of silver-oxide treatments. The cyst has since grown back.
5. A 40 year old man undergoes SRS surgery, and because they are a drug addict they forgo all pain medication except tylonel once they leave the hospital. Their new vagina is considered botched because of it's looks and the pain associated with it.

Are these cases malpractice?

Spoiler: Answers

• No. The damage did not cause lasting pervasive injuries and was corrected immediately upon discovery. Damages collected would have been lower than the lawyer fees to pursue and the patient would have been barred from that cancer treatment center.
• No. The obese man never followed through with the weight loss the doctor insisted three months prior to surgery during the consultation, or the physical therapy assigned after surgery.
• Yes. The surgeon's actions caused the woman to have lasting damage which might have permanently impacted her career, caused by his negligence during surgery.
• No. The infection was caused by the person having a naturally weaker immune system and a negative reaction towards generic antibiotics. The cyst returning was a potential issue that was discussed prior to surgery and is no fault of the surgeons.
• No. Any number of factors could have contributed to this, including improper post-op treatments, damage caused during recovery because of excessive pain, and your body simply not taking to extensive, invasive, cosmetic surgery.

tl;dr: bodies sometimes don't work like they should, and unless it can be proven that a surgeons, the nurses, or the hospitals negligence directly lead to a serious injury to the patient then chances are it isn't considered malpractice. The fact that no one likes Rani's gross fake vagina isn't the surgeons fault, and it's probably not hers either. Bodies are weird and don't always react like they should, and surgeries never have a 100% money back guarantee because no one can predict the end result.

 

[AnOminous]

So "botched" and "malpractice" are thrown around a lot, but it's not just a simple static issue. A patients dissatisfaction at the "botched" treatment generally won't hold up because it doesn't fit the definition of malpractice. Here are a couple case studies that I'd like you all to pick out which are legally considered malpractice:

These cases are still expensive to defend, and that's why malpractice carriers exist, and why your premiums go through the roof if you routinely attract cases like this, even if you win every one.

I'll note 3) is in fact the obvious case of malpractice, because only in that case did the doctor actually do something objectively wrong by a professional standard, that is, nicking a nerve while cutting.

Tort law requires a number of things. Just fucking up isn't enough, as obviously, in case 1), the doctors fucked up. There also has to be harm resulting from that, and the fuckup has to be the proximate cause of the harm. In 1), while the doctors fucked up, there wasn't any actual harm from getting overly aggressive cancer treatment.

And as I pointed out, the failure to adhere to a professional standard has to be established by a professional in the same profession, i.e. another doctor. Arguably, any kind of malignant brain tumor at all would justify the most aggressive treatment possible.

Just pointing out I'm not actually agreeing with the idea the surgery was botched or malpractice occurred, just that if either of these things is true, it's worth consulting a professional.

 

[Mellorine]

 

[BOLDYSPICY!]

Goddamn, I feel so bad for Rani. Lolcow or no, no one deserves this.

 

[Um Oh Ah Yeah]

Goddamn, I feel so bad for Rani. Lolcow or no, no one deserves this.

Agreed, I was just about to write this. Rani always seemed like someone who could at least flirt with being reasonable, and she took a huge step that a lot of her brethren wouldn't actually touch with a ten foot pole. And what she isn't doing (as far as I've seen so far) is saying that it's the fault of men for not finding her sexually desirable any more, it's the fault of whatever her plumbing looks like now.

 

[AnOminous]

Goddamn, I feel so bad for Rani. Lolcow or no, no one deserves this.

Some people got butthurt that Rani still shit talks us despite having acted reasonably politely while she was here. I don't really get that. I mean why the fuck would anyone like us? It's nice when it happens, I suppose, but I'd never expect it. I can't see taking it personally.

 

[HG 400]

Some people got butthurt that Rani still shit talks us despite having acted reasonably politely while she was here. I don't really get that. I mean why the fuck would anyone like us? It's nice when it happens, I suppose, but I'd never expect it. I can't see taking it personally.

Yeah, how dare she not tell all her friends that we're actually nice people (even though we're not), knowing that they'll fucking crucify her and make her life a misery for it.

Rani's alright ppl tbh, and I'm pretty dumbfounded that people acted like she "betrayed" us by not maintaining her original levels of upbeat civility with a bunch of degenerate sociopaths who have a 17-page thread calling her a monstrous freak over and over for a year. Like, what, you thought you were her friend or something?

 

[Quack]

thiiiis close to getting it. Now sadly missing out on Grindr's straightest men.

 

[Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.]

Some people got butthurt that Rani still shit talks us despite having acted reasonably politely while she was here. I don't really get that. I mean why the fuck would anyone like us? It's nice when it happens, I suppose, but I'd never expect it. I can't see taking it personally.

Yeah, how dare she not tell all her friends that we're actually nice people (even though we're not), knowing that they'll fucking crucify her and make her life a misery for it.

Rani's alright ppl tbh, and I'm pretty dumbfounded that people acted like she "betrayed" us by not maintaining her original levels of upbeat civility with a bunch of degenerate sociopaths who have a 17-page thread calling her a monstrous freak over and over for a year. Like, what, you thought you were her friend or something?

I can see both arguments, but I think the objection is less that she betrayed anyone and more that she showed up with the explicit purpose of trollshielding and playing nice, and half the forum could not line up to suck her off fast enough.
She's by far the most tolerable and sensible of the Rat King, and she's got some actual spine to her, I'll give her that. She's also leagues more functional than the others in terms of her life.
That said, she's always going to be a contentious topic, but for my money, anyone who dated Chloe Segal for any period of time has damage on a pretty personal level. The fact she can occasionally be funny and snarky is great, but she's still preachy as all fuck and a near constant attention whore. This constant fishing for pity, for example.
It's not that she betrayed anyone, and it's not that she's all that bad a person. It's that she's kind of a whiny egotistical shit, and her popping in to play nice doesn't make her less entertaining to follow.

 

[AnOminous]

I can see both arguments, but I think the objection is less that she betrayed anyone and more that she showed up with the explicit purpose of trollshielding and playing nice, and half the forum could not line up to suck her off fast enough.

That's really the forum's fault, though. And shit-talking or not, it's not like Rani just makes shit up like most of the Rat King members. Most of the shit Rani has said is more or less true, if not necessarily sugar coated.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Men find the entire package of a woman attractive. They like reasonable, feminine beauty, intellect, and a charismatic/agreeable personality. If a guy really loves you, he would stick around even if your vagina looked like a clam being evicted from its own shell. The problem is that men really were never attracted to Rani as a woman or a human being; I know that sounds mean, but it makes sense. Rani is not a trap, which means, the only men Rani could attract were "straight men" from Grindr. Tranny chasers are basically closeted men, who think that taking a dick from a guy is gay but taking a dick from a dude with tits is totally straight.
Even if this plastic vagina looks odd, Rani still has way more important issues to deal with like mental illness and developmental delays, which make anxiety worse.

 

[repentance]

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So the whole point of the surgery was being attractive to men and not "something I want to do for myself" (which is usually the standard party line)?

Oh dear.

And yeah. Rani has the capacity to think for herself and do what she believes is right regardless of the fallout. She promoted the GFM for Lizzie's family at our request at a time when the Rat King in general was vilifying Lizzie's wife. She stuck by Chloe when SJW trans circles wanted her thrown to the wolves. She doesn't let groupthink entirely determine her own actions.

 

[Deadpool]

So the whole point of the surgery was being attractive to men and not "something I want to do for myself" (which is usually the standard party line)?

Oh dear.

And yeah. Rani has the capacity to think for herself and do what she believes is right regardless of the fallout. She promoted the GFM for Lizzie's family at our request at a time when the Rat King in general was vilifying Lizzie's wife. She stuck by Chloe when SJW trans circles wanted her thrown to the wolves. She doesn't let groupthink entirely determine her own actions.

I think that's what disappoints a lot of kiwis. She seems like she could do alright, and get away from all the troon crazyness, only to dive back into the shit head first.