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While Youtube may indeed be fucked, the main factor is that Chris Youtube content is a snorefest. Even we are not interested in that bullshit.
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Those poor Finns.
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I pointed this out a while ago, but something I find incredible is that Chris was more or less posting these Transformers videos for a year, consistently, with comments off. There was a full year of consistent uploads where the videos could've reached someone who had no idea who Chris was, and who wouldn't have found out without comments on. In fact, since a few hundred Chris observers were clicking on and skimming through each video, Chris was even at an advantage in the algorithm over a new channel.
Yet when Chris finally decided to turn on the comments on one of those Transformers videos, not a single comment (and I went through all of them) was actually about the video or interested in Chris's custom toys. It was all observers and weens. Even with content directed at a fandom infamous for autists who will consume any and all content about it, Chris's videos were so boring and pointless that he couldn't attract a single real fan in a year.
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After what he did to Barb, do you really think he'd have legit fans? Anyone who would be interested would be quickly turned off the moment they decided to dig deeper on his stuff. The fact that he's still pumping out vids has to be Caden's doing just to bring in revenue.
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Hey all! It’s Ren. That’s right. Ren Ryghts, the same faggot who commissioned Persona 3 and 5 drawings from Chris and bought him Persona 5 Royal. I do apologize for posting this here, but I cannot make my own thread here. Give me all the shit you want, but this isn’t about that. This is about Joshua Wise. Remember that stupid Sonichu Psychology interview I did a couple years ago? Yeah, other than the whole “saving Chris with Persona lore,” pretty much everything I said in that interview about Josh was true, save for the having a crush on him part. I have reached out to other Farmers and CWCki editors to try and get this information out, but I was either ignored or insulted. So fine, I’ll do it my damn self.
If anyone here remembers my whole “exposé” from July 2024, I backtracked big time about knowing Josh. Since all the details weren’t out yet, some thought Josh was the mastermind behind my weening, that I was an agent of Caden’s sent to destroy Sonichu Psychology, or even that a DM between me and my best friend since middle school was Josh, simply due to his profile picture. I laughed those off. I honestly can’t remember why I even brought up Josh in that interview. I lied about “saving Chris” to troll SP, as he was extremely gullible and believed anything and anyone as long as he could get a video out of it. I tried to protect Josh because I still considered him a friend at the time, but due to recent events, I’m done and want to get this out there. Let’s start from the beginning.
In late 2023, I had moved in with some roommates across the country. Things got bad fast. They were constantly fighting and also stealing from me; I literally had to sleep in jeans with my wallet and keys in my pocket because I didn’t trust them not to come in and take them while I was sleeping. I also had no friends due to being in a new place, and I could barely go anywhere. Being gone for 30 minutes at the McDonald’s literally half a mile down the road got me “where are you?” and “are you coming back soon?” texts. So after work, I stayed in and usually put YouTube on, was too depressed to even play video games most days. I spent a lot of time reading the CWCki, and realized how little information there was about the Idea Guys saga compared to others in Christory and wanted to learn more. So that’s when it started.
I initially started looking for Josh, and realized he had absolutely no online presence anymore except for long abandoned accounts and his Steam, which will be important later. I did find and meet NinFreakLan very easily, as he still actively uses the name on PlayStation. I don’t have much to say about him. He didn’t have a lot of info save for a man named “Tindle” who the GameCube games were allegedly bought for (you can find this screenshot on the CWCki) and apparently took control of his account at some point. I have no evidence of either of these, that’s just what I was told. Other than that, he says he’s long moved on from Chris and doesn’t like thinking about that time anymore. He feels terrible for the things he did and wants to leave it all behind.
All I could find for Josh was an address, so I wrote him a letter. Said address is 113 Saddle Trl, Cibolo TX 78108. No response after a month, to be expected, so I tried a different avenue. His Steam. I found it through “The Chris-Chan Extortionists” thread here on the Farms. The link is here. I used a website called SteamRep, which no longer exists. This website SteamHistory shows his profile picture and name from the time, which was Anis, a character from Nikke. As you can see, he changes his persona a lot. If you want proof we were friends, here’s my own SteamHistory, which shows he unfriended me at one point. It says he unfriended me on January 2nd, but it was before that. Not sure what’s up with that. On SteamRep, you could see a user’s page from years in the past, like the Wayback Machine. I went back in time to early 2018, before he made his account private. I started going through his friends and found one who was still friends with him. They had their Discord account in their Steam bio, so I added them. They accepted not long after, and were willing to humor my request. This is the conversation we had.
At the time, I was genuinely wondering if the extortion and stuff was actually true, but now, I have no doubt in my mind. I was also overly nice because I didn’t want to scare him off and because I wanted to be more welcoming. Later on, I got this friend request from him. I screenshotted it this way to show the timestamp, and even shows the old Discord app. I’ll shut up for a bit and let our DMs do the talking. I’ll be skipping around a little, as we had some irrelevant conversation as well as some personal details of mine so I could get him to feel more comfortable and talk more.
At this point, I was feeling bad for Josh. I thought he was misunderstood and a victim. Well, there’s more info about the Idea Guys Saga. Josh allegedly attempted suicide not long after. Also the other audio clips he made for Chris are lost media. As well as some info about the other unknown Idea Guys and Josh’s life after.
Yeah, that’s a lot. Honestly, this is the most we talked about Chris for a long time. I left the rp comment in because that will be somewhat important later on. I won’t share any of the rps, one because they’re cringe as hell and because I don’t have them anymore. We did it on a separate Discord server that he eventually deleted when I wasn’t comfortable roleplaying anymore. Another twist came though. With how overly nice he had been acting, I asked him if he had a crush on me. Yes, I identified as trans at the time. This isn’t relevant. It’s been known that Josh is gay, or at least bi, so I don’t think it would’ve made a difference.
But… this is when the perviness started too. One of the photos of me that was posted here last year was me cosplaying Neptune from Hyperdimension Neptunia. I sent him a picture of it at one point, and yeah…
Honestly, I don’t want to share much of this. Not for his sake, but a lot of his comments are physically painful for me to read. I will admit, at the time I didn’t have much of a problem with it. I was lonely and enjoyed the attention. It’s later when it became a problem, when I asked him to stop and he kept pushing it. I’m trying to go in chronological order, so I’ll get to that in a bit. The next significant thing I have is when I told him about my escapades as Ren Ryghts. Also around this time was when I was considering moving back home due to the abusive roommates. I won’t share screenshots unless you guys want them, since I think it’s unimportant; but Josh was basically pushing me to tough it out, saying that I haven’t been gone from home long enough and that I shouldn’t let my roommates ruin my time there. I was miserable though, and he just couldn’t see my point of view. Anyway, here you go.
After this is when I started to notice a change in him. I won’t share much of these, mostly because all the conversations are pretty samey, but it felt like damn near every conversation we had turned into how “woke and DEI are destroying gaming and America.” It got super annoying and is actually what got me to distance myself from him a bit. We talked very little after this started, because I was sick of every conversation turning to this. These are a bit out of order, sorry about that.
(Also, I did go to Japan anyway, so suck it Josh)
Here’s a bit of when I got exposed here July 2024. Not much to say here, the messages speak for themselves.
Alright, getting towards the end here. I immensely disagreed with his politics, and he kept asking me to roleplay and such after I kept telling him I was no longer comfortable with it. Me giving short answers or being dismissive never registered in his mind. I also got tired of his compliments. I’d asked him many times not to compliment me, but he kept pushing it.
I had considered earlier exposing him, but I felt bad about it. Eventually, I saw he deleted me on Steam a second time, and after he gave me shit about trust, I had had it. I sent him one final DM and unfriended him. I didn’t block him just so it would be easier to get DMs for this thread. I don’t care enough to edit my Discord name in these, I genuinely don’t care anymore. I should’ve never gotten involved with Josh and should have never kept this information from the community. Here’s the last DM I sent him.
Curiosity killed the cat I suppose. I expect my account to be banned after this, but if not, feel free to insult me or ask any questions. If anything isn’t clear, ask away and I’ll answer the best I can. Lastly, here’s a couple misc DMs. One is NinFreakLan confronting me after I got into contact with Josh, and the other is Josh discovering the letter I mailed him, he didn’t live at that address anymore. The final thing is Josh’s Discord as of today.
As for me? I’m done with Christory. Nothing’s going on anymore, and I haven’t done anything on my end since the Persona 5 commission. I did get the infamous Persona 3 drawing signed by a couple Persona 3 Reload voice actors, but other than that, I’m done. Do I regret weening Chris? No. But would I have done it if I were in a better place at the time? Also no. But, I do regret searching for Josh, and honestly, I hope I didn’t waste my time putting this together. I’m not great at writing, so forgive me if any of this is all over the place or doesn’t make sense, or if the formatting is bad. I’ll stick around a bit longer in case anyone has any questions or choice words, but outside of that, I want this to be behind me forever. I included his perverted fantasies and beliefs to show what kind of person he is. I should’ve listened.
Thanks for reading. Take care.
If anyone here remembers my whole “exposé” from July 2024, I backtracked big time about knowing Josh. Since all the details weren’t out yet, some thought Josh was the mastermind behind my weening, that I was an agent of Caden’s sent to destroy Sonichu Psychology, or even that a DM between me and my best friend since middle school was Josh, simply due to his profile picture. I laughed those off. I honestly can’t remember why I even brought up Josh in that interview. I lied about “saving Chris” to troll SP, as he was extremely gullible and believed anything and anyone as long as he could get a video out of it. I tried to protect Josh because I still considered him a friend at the time, but due to recent events, I’m done and want to get this out there. Let’s start from the beginning.
In late 2023, I had moved in with some roommates across the country. Things got bad fast. They were constantly fighting and also stealing from me; I literally had to sleep in jeans with my wallet and keys in my pocket because I didn’t trust them not to come in and take them while I was sleeping. I also had no friends due to being in a new place, and I could barely go anywhere. Being gone for 30 minutes at the McDonald’s literally half a mile down the road got me “where are you?” and “are you coming back soon?” texts. So after work, I stayed in and usually put YouTube on, was too depressed to even play video games most days. I spent a lot of time reading the CWCki, and realized how little information there was about the Idea Guys saga compared to others in Christory and wanted to learn more. So that’s when it started.
I initially started looking for Josh, and realized he had absolutely no online presence anymore except for long abandoned accounts and his Steam, which will be important later. I did find and meet NinFreakLan very easily, as he still actively uses the name on PlayStation. I don’t have much to say about him. He didn’t have a lot of info save for a man named “Tindle” who the GameCube games were allegedly bought for (you can find this screenshot on the CWCki) and apparently took control of his account at some point. I have no evidence of either of these, that’s just what I was told. Other than that, he says he’s long moved on from Chris and doesn’t like thinking about that time anymore. He feels terrible for the things he did and wants to leave it all behind.
All I could find for Josh was an address, so I wrote him a letter. Said address is 113 Saddle Trl, Cibolo TX 78108. No response after a month, to be expected, so I tried a different avenue. His Steam. I found it through “The Chris-Chan Extortionists” thread here on the Farms. The link is here. I used a website called SteamRep, which no longer exists. This website SteamHistory shows his profile picture and name from the time, which was Anis, a character from Nikke. As you can see, he changes his persona a lot. If you want proof we were friends, here’s my own SteamHistory, which shows he unfriended me at one point. It says he unfriended me on January 2nd, but it was before that. Not sure what’s up with that. On SteamRep, you could see a user’s page from years in the past, like the Wayback Machine. I went back in time to early 2018, before he made his account private. I started going through his friends and found one who was still friends with him. They had their Discord account in their Steam bio, so I added them. They accepted not long after, and were willing to humor my request. This is the conversation we had.
At the time, I was genuinely wondering if the extortion and stuff was actually true, but now, I have no doubt in my mind. I was also overly nice because I didn’t want to scare him off and because I wanted to be more welcoming. Later on, I got this friend request from him. I screenshotted it this way to show the timestamp, and even shows the old Discord app. I’ll shut up for a bit and let our DMs do the talking. I’ll be skipping around a little, as we had some irrelevant conversation as well as some personal details of mine so I could get him to feel more comfortable and talk more.
At this point, I was feeling bad for Josh. I thought he was misunderstood and a victim. Well, there’s more info about the Idea Guys Saga. Josh allegedly attempted suicide not long after. Also the other audio clips he made for Chris are lost media. As well as some info about the other unknown Idea Guys and Josh’s life after.
Yeah, that’s a lot. Honestly, this is the most we talked about Chris for a long time. I left the rp comment in because that will be somewhat important later on. I won’t share any of the rps, one because they’re cringe as hell and because I don’t have them anymore. We did it on a separate Discord server that he eventually deleted when I wasn’t comfortable roleplaying anymore. Another twist came though. With how overly nice he had been acting, I asked him if he had a crush on me. Yes, I identified as trans at the time. This isn’t relevant. It’s been known that Josh is gay, or at least bi, so I don’t think it would’ve made a difference.
But… this is when the perviness started too. One of the photos of me that was posted here last year was me cosplaying Neptune from Hyperdimension Neptunia. I sent him a picture of it at one point, and yeah…
Honestly, I don’t want to share much of this. Not for his sake, but a lot of his comments are physically painful for me to read. I will admit, at the time I didn’t have much of a problem with it. I was lonely and enjoyed the attention. It’s later when it became a problem, when I asked him to stop and he kept pushing it. I’m trying to go in chronological order, so I’ll get to that in a bit. The next significant thing I have is when I told him about my escapades as Ren Ryghts. Also around this time was when I was considering moving back home due to the abusive roommates. I won’t share screenshots unless you guys want them, since I think it’s unimportant; but Josh was basically pushing me to tough it out, saying that I haven’t been gone from home long enough and that I shouldn’t let my roommates ruin my time there. I was miserable though, and he just couldn’t see my point of view. Anyway, here you go.
After this is when I started to notice a change in him. I won’t share much of these, mostly because all the conversations are pretty samey, but it felt like damn near every conversation we had turned into how “woke and DEI are destroying gaming and America.” It got super annoying and is actually what got me to distance myself from him a bit. We talked very little after this started, because I was sick of every conversation turning to this. These are a bit out of order, sorry about that.
(Also, I did go to Japan anyway, so suck it Josh)
Here’s a bit of when I got exposed here July 2024. Not much to say here, the messages speak for themselves.
Alright, getting towards the end here. I immensely disagreed with his politics, and he kept asking me to roleplay and such after I kept telling him I was no longer comfortable with it. Me giving short answers or being dismissive never registered in his mind. I also got tired of his compliments. I’d asked him many times not to compliment me, but he kept pushing it.
I had considered earlier exposing him, but I felt bad about it. Eventually, I saw he deleted me on Steam a second time, and after he gave me shit about trust, I had had it. I sent him one final DM and unfriended him. I didn’t block him just so it would be easier to get DMs for this thread. I don’t care enough to edit my Discord name in these, I genuinely don’t care anymore. I should’ve never gotten involved with Josh and should have never kept this information from the community. Here’s the last DM I sent him.
Curiosity killed the cat I suppose. I expect my account to be banned after this, but if not, feel free to insult me or ask any questions. If anything isn’t clear, ask away and I’ll answer the best I can. Lastly, here’s a couple misc DMs. One is NinFreakLan confronting me after I got into contact with Josh, and the other is Josh discovering the letter I mailed him, he didn’t live at that address anymore. The final thing is Josh’s Discord as of today.
As for me? I’m done with Christory. Nothing’s going on anymore, and I haven’t done anything on my end since the Persona 5 commission. I did get the infamous Persona 3 drawing signed by a couple Persona 3 Reload voice actors, but other than that, I’m done. Do I regret weening Chris? No. But would I have done it if I were in a better place at the time? Also no. But, I do regret searching for Josh, and honestly, I hope I didn’t waste my time putting this together. I’m not great at writing, so forgive me if any of this is all over the place or doesn’t make sense, or if the formatting is bad. I’ll stick around a bit longer in case anyone has any questions or choice words, but outside of that, I want this to be behind me forever. I included his perverted fantasies and beliefs to show what kind of person he is. I should’ve listened.
Thanks for reading. Take care.
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I lose interest in Chris for a few months and come back to a long ass post of nothing?
evil and whorish and evil
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You're fucking crazy for stalking and befriending an old troll and re-doxxing him because you led him on then decided you didn't like him. Double crazy for thinking you're dropping some kind of atomic bomb you think anybody will give a single fuck about. Where's your thread, goblin?
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It’s really not all that surprising Chris has been fixated on his gay little transformers thing for so long. This nigga spent the better part of a year on his blue arms campaign going as far as to vandalize retailers and then spent almost another whole year pretending to be possessed by Sonichu, doing interviews and all has him.
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Well, that was certainly a random vaguely Chris related update.
Why you wanted to not just spill your tea but blast it out with a firehose is not something my head can wrap around, but.....uh.....I hope you feel better for getting it all off your chest I suppose.
Why you wanted to not just spill your tea but blast it out with a firehose is not something my head can wrap around, but.....uh.....I hope you feel better for getting it all off your chest I suppose.
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First of all, we have a thread already on Chris's trolls. You really didn't need to put this here.
Second, besides a vague mention of OPL, how does any of this relate to current day Chris?
And lastly, why would you think anyone would care about your posting?
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I'm going try to tl;dr that bitch of a post:
- was friends of Josh wise
- how he found josh
- josh blames kf for misinformation
- he took some money from Chris but not 6k, it was tindle that took most of the gift cards.
- Idea Guys was a team that was 6 members deep.
- wise tried to help chris....
- OP doesn't regret giving money to caden for are work.
- some bullshit OP needed to add an ego boost in the form of " so stop hitting on me!!!1!!"
- overall details that changes nothing. There's receipts for the gift cards. Idea Guys took the money even if wise had a tiny part of it, it was stolen.
- was friends of Josh wise
- how he found josh
- josh blames kf for misinformation
- he took some money from Chris but not 6k, it was tindle that took most of the gift cards.
- Idea Guys was a team that was 6 members deep.
- wise tried to help chris....
- OP doesn't regret giving money to caden for are work.
- some bullshit OP needed to add an ego boost in the form of " so stop hitting on me!!!1!!"
- overall details that changes nothing. There's receipts for the gift cards. Idea Guys took the money even if wise had a tiny part of it, it was stolen.
It's nice that you tried to set the record straight but it didn't matter. Wise could/probably of lied through all of this shit and you couldn't tell the difference.
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Hey, guys, I've been away for quite a while, I sure do hope nothing major has ha-
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Gonna be real, thank you. I do want to say that I don’t believe his excuses. There are numerous sources that back up the opposite of what he claimed. I guess I just couldn’t see it at the time. Also, I understand it can be interpreted that way, but I didn’t intend the hitting on me part as an ego boost. I was very tired when I wrote this so I could have probably written it better. I put that part in because he kept asking for dirty pictures and for ERP after I said I wasn’t comfortable with it, as shown above. I repeatedly told him to stop more times than what I showed, and what’s worse, is I was actually in a relationship during a lot of that, which he knew.
Other things I left out were like when he was trying to get me to move in with him instead of going back home when my roommate situation was getting worse. Because he left his family on bad terms, I guess he projected that onto me and thought that moving back home was “taking the easy way out.” I won’t say what state he lives in (it’s not California) but it was much further away from home than I already was, and I didn’t want to risk that. He eventually respected my decision, but not because my roommates were thieves, control freaks, and constantly pulling me into their drama. No, it was because they were “woke libtards.”
Anyway, I wanna say thanks for being civil instead of hurling middle school level insults at me like some others have. I’ve received numerous messages and have ignored them all. I expected some ridicule, I wouldn’t have posted this if I didn’t, but goddamn. I don’t plan to post on the Chris board anymore after this message. Maybe if something really big happens again, but other than that I want no part of it anymore.
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I mean serial killers always have fangirls.
Also @Heal Thy Burgers what I gained from your post the real mastermind behind the really heinous Idea Guys shit was that Tindle guy?
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Same with me, the only thing he was right about is that we are at the end of Christory.
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Allegedly. I’m certain the man exists, but likely a fall guy. Boyd told me that he knew Tindle in real life and had control of his account at one point, and the way we talked he seemed nothing like the transcripts on the CWCki. Also said that Tindle was crazy into meth or heroine, don’t remember which. He’s possibly dead now, but I couldn’t find any sort of obituary from that area. The reason I don’t have screenshots of this is because it was in a voice call.
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Triple crazy for thinking that it'll give him praise here.