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Sneedmiser said:
There's still no precedent for that btw, because Virginia didn't want to put it in the books so they just let him run out the clock in jail.
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Right before Heilberg threw down the tard card, Chris's charge was wobbled from a misdemeanor incest charge to a felony, and a felony grand jury was going to happen that could have resulted in additional charges for Chris. They were getting him ready to go to actual big boy prison until the the tism deferral saved him.
 
Okay.

I've been a CWCKI member for almost 8 years I think.

Let's talk about some misconceptions over the years I felt I had to do damage control for.

First things first.

Chris is famous for singing entire songs in front of a camera with a very "tone-deaf" voice for a lack of a better word.
Some have speculated that this may have something to do with Chris' autism.

This kinda reminds me of the literature about the "rare case" of an autistic person with synesthesia. People think that someone who struggles with predicting people's reactions also struggles with imagination in general. Not so.

Second, the old myths of all of Chris' friends either hanging out out of pity (in an email penned by trolls) or being paid (only one was, in jhs) just can't seem to die.

Third, half of all CWCisms weren't original. They're just common "solecisms" found online.

Fourth, the "miscreants" are a pretty nebulous bunch, and many people they claimed had nothing to do with them.

Fifth, I think Chris being on Paxil for so long is a bigger deal than a lot of people think.
 
AnOminous said:
That's just the descriptive text for the charge in the online system. It doesn't have any legal meaning itself.
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these databases really just output a shorthand description of what the overall section itself was about (such as the act of incest with a child, even when it is the child who is being charged as the initiator).

pretty much every state and county court site (which handles state crimes in some jurisdictions) uses an oldskool "web1" website. these sites load instantly over a wired gigabit connection in ideal circumstances. the captchas are often simple math used to prove you are "not a bot." yep.

and anal sex in california is still legally termed "sodomy". yep. fairy tales by word worshippers still have power when judges flap their tongues and wield their fingers.
 
Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
Right before Heilberg threw down the tard card, Chris's charge was wobbled from a misdemeanor incest charge to a felony, and a felony grand jury was going to happen that could have resulted in additional charges for Chris.
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They would have had to let him go immediately if they hadn't wobbled it up.
 
Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
Right before Heilberg threw down the tard card, Chris's charge was wobbled from a misdemeanor incest charge to a felony, and a felony grand jury was going to happen that could have resulted in additional charges for Chris. They were getting him ready to go to actual big boy prison until the the tism deferral saved him.
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Yeah, it seemed that the da/prosecutor was fed up with chris's shenanigans. Chris keeps hurting people and wasting people's time.
 
AnOminous said:
They would have had to let him go immediately if they hadn't wobbled it up.
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I think it was that they knew, probably from Barb's examination, that she was having sex with someone, and needed a rock solid case to proceed. Chris can't shutup and with trained investigators, could have easily incriminated himself.

What they needed to do was to make sure Chris wasn't nuts, hence all the evaluations and trips to various doctors. They needed to figure out if he was living in a fantasy or he actually did, and more importantly why he did it. Did little magic hedgehogs tell him to do it, or was Chris just a sex hungry pervert that took advantage of someone who couldn't fight back?
 
Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
What they needed to do was to make sure Chris wasn't nuts, hence all the evaluations and trips to various doctors. They needed to figure out if he was living in a fantasy or he actually did, and more importantly why he did it. Did little magic hedgehogs tell him to do it, or was Chris just a sex hungry pervert that took advantage of someone who couldn't fight back?
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Isn't it weird that the courts essentially said: "Yeah, we recognize that he most likely did it, but since he's crazy we should just let him loose in society."?

It's a little scary to think about how many other lunatics are just roaming around out there as a result of similar decisions.
 
Dr. Arinsu said:
Has or will Chris improve on art? For how long someone draws I wonder if xhe would improve.
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I’m in the minority and believe Chris’ art has gotten a LITTLE (keyword, LITTLE) better over the years, but my god. Sonichu in particular Chris should be able to draw perfectly with his eyes closed. Chris is terrible with proportions and perspective, the Persona 4 commission is a key example of this. Chris’ retarded pen grip also most definitely hinders his drawing ability. Not to mention, ideally, Chris should draw with pencil to fix any mistakes, but being a CPU Goddess, everything he does is perfect to him.
 
Heal Thy Burgers said:
I’m in the minority and believe Chris’ art has gotten a LITTLE (keyword, LITTLE) better over the years, but my god. Sonichu in particular Chris should be able to draw perfectly with his eyes closed. Chris is terrible with proportions and perspective, the Persona 4 commission is a key example of this. Chris’ retarded pen grip also most definitely hinders his drawing ability. Not to mention, ideally, Chris should draw with pencil to fix any mistakes, but being a CPU Goddess, everything he does is perfect to him.
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King Metalia said:
It's unlikely Chris will improve at art given he avoids putting effort into what he makes like the plague.
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So, xhis art is just the same, I would ask if it was art regression but I don't think xhe does art as much.
 
Dr. Arinsu said:
xhis
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alright please just stop


there is one penis.webp
 
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King Metalia said:
It's unlikely Chris will improve at art given he avoids putting effort into what he makes like the plague.
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Yes, Chris doesn't really improve or get better.

His autism makes it difficult to adapt and change and his parents enabling made it easy to be lazy and shift blame on to others.

It's possible that if he put in genuine effort he could improve, yes, but the fact that he doesn't is one of the reasons why he's, um, so well known.
 
Dr. Arinsu said:
Has or will Chris improve on art? For how long someone draws I wonder if xhe would improve.
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Just look at the art on his transformers boxes. He's definitely not improved and still draws/colors like a chimp holding a marker with its feet.
 
Acoustic Virgin said:
Isn't it weird that the courts essentially said: "Yeah, we recognize that he most likely did it, but since he's crazy we should just let him loose in society."?

It's a little scary to think about how many other lunatics are just roaming around out there as a result of similar decisions.
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Essentially, as the law is written now, any autism suffering person in Virginia is free to commit any crime they want, minus aggravated sexual assault/rape, or aggravated murder, as long as the defense can argue that they have autism. Anything else can easily be argued to be caused by autism and they'll go through the same stuff Chris went through at the end of his ordeal, aka the Gateway saga.

There's not even a mechanism to check up on those people either. Chris literally has nobody from the state checking on him and he has zero court orders to take any kind of medication or get psychological help.
 
Tennis-Ball-Tony said:
Essentially, as the law is written now, any autism suffering person in Virginia is free to commit any crime they want, minus aggravated sexual assault/rape, or aggravated murder, as long as the defense can argue that they have autism.
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Actually they have to prove it by "clear and convincing evidence," and that just establishes eligibility for the deferral, which the court "may" grant. "Clear and convincing evidence" is a standard somewhere between the civil "preponderance of evidence" and the criminal "beyond a reasonable doubt" standards. It's the standard applied to the generic insanity defense, and the only thing the new law

If contested, the court must consider "the position of the attorney for the Commonwealth, the views of the victims, and any evidence offered by the defendant" and may deny the deferral if "the court finds that deferred disposition is inconsistent with the interests of justice."

The previous statute also allowed insanity as a defense, to the same standard. The revision merely explicitly added autism, which is usually not technically insanity, also as being a reason for a deferral.

Also, neither the victim nor the prosecution opposed it.

I'm pretty sure the fix was in from the beginning and they already knew where this was going, and brought Heilberg aboard to make sure everything went smoothly and everything was done competently.
 
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