Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

[Pointless Sperg]

Considering there is recordings of him admitting it, I think it's safe to say he's gonna eat a conviction no matter if Barb is alive or dead by the time of the trial.

*edit* Not to mention the above noted likelihood that he willingly confessed all to the cops.

For the 100000th time a trial is extremely unlikely. Like <5% chance. The prosecutor is not going to let Chris off without a conviction, and Heilberg will not push to a trial on the incest charges, which Chris would most likely lose. The only way this goes to trial is if the prosecution has *nothing*, but feels they still have to try for appearances' sake despite the risk of losing (this is extremely unlikely), or if they feel they have to zap to the extreme for appearances'/morality's sake and take the risk and expense of charging Chris with more difficult to prosecute charges like rape.

Chris will not tard demand a trial because for all his bluster, he is meek and will sign whatever papers Heilberg puts in front of him.

Barb being alive or dead might change the negotiations but won't affect the chances of a trial much.

Chris is going to eat a conviction, but it will be at a simple hearing where he signs some papers ahead of time and then shows up to say "guilty". Hell, he might just sign some papers and not even have to show up to the hearing (Virginia allows this for misdemeanors).

Why the fuck do people keep thinking that a trial is going to happen? Yes, it's not impossible, but if I were the prosecutor and if I were Chris' attorney I wouldn't force a trial because it would be pointless.

I mean, I'm not a prosecutor, and I wish @Alexander Hamilton would come back to chime in, but all the prosecutors I've ever known basically reserved trials for when there was no other prudent option, and all the defense attorneys I've known would not go to trial unless the prosecution would not budge, or as a last ditch hail mary in a hopeless situation.

EDIT: The ONLY thing that makes me think a trial could even happen is that Heilberg is experienced with them and seems to wear that as a feather in his cap, but as a responsible attorney he still wouldn't force a hopeless one against his client's interests.

 

[Digital_Disaster]

The fact that this guy refused to look into Chris's history online and told people not to believe everything they read online about him… That does not give me hope for this... I hope he's not simping for him because he's a tard. If only this poor guy knew exactly what he was getting himself into, he would immediately want to throw him behind bars for life. He would be so traumatized.

 

[Tikbalang]

And here, I was hoping there's a trial. Then the twist that the verdict is Not Guilty.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

The fact that this guy refused to look into Chris's history online and told people not to believe everything they read online about him… That does not give me hope for this... I hope he's not simping for him because he's a tard. If only this poor guy knew exactly what he was getting himself into, he would immediately want to throw him behind bars for life. He would be so traumatized.

I guarantee you that Heilberg has represented far, far worse people than Chris. Attorneys have a professional responsibility to give the most effective and enthusiastic representation for their client. They know how to put their personal feelings aside if it conflicts with the interests of the person they are representing.

If you've been a defense attorney long enough, Chris is a relative angel of a client.

 

[AnOminous]

For the 100000th time a trial is extremely unlikely. Like <5% chance. The prosecutor is not going to let Chris off without a conviction, and Heilberg will not push to a trial on the incest charges, which Chris would most likely lose.

The fact that Heilberg is a highly experienced trial lawyer actually makes it more likely it pleads out because his threat to take it to trial without a decent deal carries weight. The prosecutor will know this isn't some overworked public defender he can steamroll right over.

I think it comes down to how strong the prosecution's case is. I suppose it's possible it's vastly weaker than we're assuming but I'd actually guess it's pretty strong. I think the real issue is whether he gets the misdemeanor or the felony incest, and whether he avoids the sex offender registry if he cops to the felony, or manages to get a felony that isn't sex-related like abuse of a disabled adult, which might get him a longer sentence but keep him off the SOR.

That last is important because he is genuinely fucked if he is on that. He will fail to comply and they don't play around with that at all.

 

[taintmisbehavin]

The fact that this guy refused to look into Chris's history online and told people not to believe everything they read online about him… That does not give me hope for this... I hope he's not simping for him because he's a tard. If only this poor guy knew exactly what he was getting himself into, he would immediately want to throw him behind bars for life. He would be so traumatized.

I think you are vastly underestimating what kinds of clients public defenders get. I’m sure it would take a lot (and way more than anything Chris has done in his life) to force one to recuse themselves.

 

[GumballFapper]

This praetor associate claims that Chris has told Bella that he has had anxiety about disrespecting God by claiming to be a goddess. (archive)

Don't know if it can be trusted, but very interesting if true

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

This praetor associate claims that Chris has told Bella that he has had anxiety about disrespecting God by claiming to be a goddess. (archive)
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Don't know if it can be trusted, but very interesting if true

You see I can understand him questioning himself on this because he has had some religious upbringing.

The dreams thing always makes me think, He always reads way to much into his dreams and he claims to rember them far much more frequently than normal people do, however people with Autism tend to have dreams less frequently and they are less detailed recall fewer details from them https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17682931/

He also has a really broken sleep pattern and always has so that would also inhibit his ability to dream as dreaming relies on you entering REM sleep, and people with poor sleep patterns don't enter REM sleep as deeply or frequently, One thing I have read is that shallow or borderline REM sleep is what causes nightmares as the part of the brain that creates Dreams isn't working correctly so it fills in the blanks with inappropriate things or even better doesn't render them at all and if Chris isn't entering REM sleep or only dipping into it He's more likely to encounter a nightmare.


Also dreaming and REM sleep play a really crucial part of learning in Children (and adults but in Kids it's really important) as it lets the brain play out new situations in a safe environment and would go a long way to explaining why Chris is so dumb, there has also been study's on IQ of people before and during prolonged night work that show a dip in the results after a few weeks of working nights and it dips more the longer the night work goes on for and then returns to normal a week or so after they return to a real day / night cycle but I'd be intrested on knowing what happens to people with low intellegence to begin with bad sleep cycles and a propensity to live a straddled life cycle of late rising and late nights adding autisim to that situation as well would be a real kicker.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

people with Autism tend to have dreams less frequently and they are less detailed recall fewer details from them

Autism sure screws a lot up. It really is a "pervasive developmental disorder" as they say.

It can mess with physical appearance, mess with digestion, mess with one's energy, and of course cause a whole slew of mental problems.

 

[Sharkbait]

It can mess with physical appearance, mess with digestion, mess with one's energy, and of course cause a whole slew of mental problems.

Let's just call it Auchrism.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Autism sure screws a lot up. It really is a "pervasive developmental disorder" as they say.

It can mess with physical appearance, mess with digestion, mess with one's energy, and of course cause a whole slew of mental problems.

It does, I genuinely feel sorry for the group that get's it bad as they are incapable of normal human actions they never stood a chance, I say this as someone who who honestly believes that Chris isn't just Autistic - Chris has legitimately been more functional in the past when he wasn't enabled and had forced structure and some regulation on his behaviour.

I know it's old tired ground that Chris could have been functional only if.... but Chris needed someone other than his parents to manage him post school and he might have been better off than he is now.

 

[Nikes_JustDoIt]

I know it's old tired ground that Chris could have been functional only if.... but Chris needed someone other than his parents to manage him post school and he might have been better off than he is now.

The issue was blorb was lazy and thought putting him through regular school and not helping with issues like making friends or homework. It did not help with the paid friends or the grades he got. I felt he was doomed in high school at the time he thinks of highest off, even though he was under average loser.
IIRC it could have been the troll or actually someone from Chris high school (the gals pal) stated he did get bullied but Chris disagreed with saying it wasn't the stereotypical bullying on t.v.

 

[Michael Janke]

do you think any of chris's old classmates get their memory jogged when chris started trending on twitter and was featured on tucker carlson?
no doubt the kids he knew in high school caught wind of it.
"no fucking way, i know that guy."

 

[Pointless Sperg]

do you think any of chris's old classmates get their memory jogged when chris started trending on twitter and was featured on tucker carlson?
no doubt the kids he knew in high school caught wind of it.
"no fucking way, i know that guy."

I'm fairly sure almost all of them have been aware of Chris' antics at one point or another. While, as I understand it, the return of the gal pals turned out to be trolls, I can't imagine they haven't been exposed to Chris' infamy since long before the incest saga.

I mean, I'm sure it surprised them just as much as the rest of us, but it can't be the first time they've heard of post-high-school Chris. At the bare minimum, weens would have pestered them before.

 

[FightenGnome]

With someone as obviously exceptional as Chris, I wonder if interrogators are more careful with their tactics. It seems like there’d be a lot of ways the defense could attack Chris’s own confessions compared to a run-of-the-mill dumbass

I doubt it since he was even chimping out at the judge and demanding to be released.

Yes, especially if they have a case that depends on a confession to any great degree. They generally make sure you're fed, have liquids, aren't on drugs, or any other thing that could invalidate a confession. They also often videotape them so the jury can see them doing these things.

One thing they're really good at is getting confessions out of people who think they're smarter than they are, are psychos so they don't consider what they did was wrong, or are just plain dumb, and Chris is all three. I don't think they'd have to work very hard to get him to talk. The hardest thing would be just putting up with listening to his endless retarded drivel about being Jesus and shit like that.

It all really depends on what Chris is willing to let slip. The issue here really isn't, I don't believe, whether they extracted some sort of confession about the incest, because I believe they have extracted enough conclusive evidence about that and I can see Chris admitting to it.

The difficult part would be to prove intent to determine if this was sexual assault, to what degree, and the maximum possible punishment. Naturally the police don't have control over what exactly is brought to court or what the sentencing will be, but they have to get the most they can and Chris has been very vague and in control about it being some sort of consensual thing. I don't think the interrogators will break him of that. I also don't believe his mental state will damn him either.

The window for interrogation is very narrow, once Chris has waived his rights the cops have a limited amount of time to get some sort of confession until the lawyer calls in and tells the idiot to shut up. You're right that confessions are easy to get from people who think they're smarter than they are, I just doubt that Chris due to his mental uniqueness would give them more than the confession for incest.

Additionally, and optimistically, people who have familiarity with being arrested are harder to get confessions from. Chris has been to jail twice. This isn't his first rodeo, so perhaps that's why he's saying something "Yeah I had consensual sex with my mom" as opposed to "Yep I raped my mother against her will like the Goddess I am!"

 

[FightenGnome]

. It did not help with the paid friends or the grades he got. I felt he was doomed in high school at the time he thinks of highest off, even though he was under average loser.

I find it funny that Chris probably was given the easiest historical assignment to do for an American child, World War 2 between Japan and the United States, and managed to fuck every aspect of it up, even using a World War 1 historical source.

If Chris had been given that assignment at any other time period but the late 90s he would been in high school longer than he actually was. He was passed clearly due to his tism.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I find it funny that Chris probably was given the easiest historical assignment to do for an American child, World War 2 between Japan and the United States, and managed to fuck every aspect of it up, even using a World War 1 historical source.

If Chris had been given that assignment at any other time period but the late 90s he would been in high school longer than he actually was. He was passed clearly due to his tism.

And the dumb motherfucker was still able to go to college despite Chris' uninterest, distractions and failings.

 

[Piss Man]

Does anyone know Chris's opinion on the whole Sonic.exe trend? If he believes that fictional creatures are real, then the idea of a demonic Sonic on a killing spree could really shake him.>

 

[RainwaterDrop]

Does anyone know Chris's opinion on the whole Sonic.exe trend? If he believes that fictional creatures are real, then the idea of a demonic Sonic on a killing spree could really shake him.>

Considering his freakout at Sonic being depicted with the wrong arm colors he would have probably gone on a tangent about these stories, so I would guess he has none. However, fucking Sonichu qualifies as a horror story as it's set on a virginian North Korea policed by his versions of Sonic and featuring some fucking gruesome kills on people Chris hates lol!

And the dumb motherfucker was still able to go to college despite Chris' uninterest, distractions and failings.

I honestly believe they were lenient with him taking more than twice the average course lenght to get his degree precisely because Chris is very obviously autistic and low functioning at that. He barely qualified to pass too!

 

[Meat Pickle]

One of Chris's ancestors fought for the Confederacy.

Just pointing it out.