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It's almost like he gave up on finding a girlfriend and instead started getting his sexual fantasies fulfilled by "being" the girl.
Which is so fucking deranged.
He did give up.

And people who give up are a danger to themselves and others. That's why you're very lucky to have people who don't give up on you in life.

Don't give up on yourself.
 
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The authenticity of Chris's statements on his sexuality are highly dubious considering they were coerced by trolls.
It's also because this trans stuff is yet another example of Chris pretending to be something, complete with costumes he can dress up in. Chris likes playing dress-up, all the way back to his Pokemon trainer days, and through the Classic Era where he didn't hesitate to play pretend.

Remember when Chris was a Juggalo? ...for like a week? He put more effort into the face makeup than the actual music, but it was a group that Chris, for some reason, identified with, yet was too dumb to know exactly what it was all about.

Chris going trans, the first thing he did was trowel on makeup, looking absolutely hideous, but it's playing pretend, and he gets to dress up and paint his face!

This trans stuff is no different. He gets to put on clothes like the girls he stalks and creeps on. It gets him in touch with his "lesbian soul", his one very strong fetish since forever, and it gives him victim points and other complicated nonsense he can give word salads too.

Remember though, in 2007, none of what Chris said about "the homos" was troll driven, that was 100% his thoughts. I have to wonder if these days, when Chris says he's "bi", that's just not some retarded double talk for "I'm a girl, I'm bisexual because I like other girls".
 
It's also because this trans stuff is yet another example of Chris pretending to be something, complete with costumes he can dress up in. Chris likes playing dress-up, all the way back to his Pokemon trainer days, and through the Classic Era where he didn't hesitate to play pretend.

Remember when Chris was a Juggalo? ...for like a week? He put more effort into the face makeup than the actual music, but it was a group that Chris, for some reason, identified with, yet was too dumb to know exactly what it was all about.

Chris going trans, the first thing he did was trowel on makeup, looking absolutely hideous, but it's playing pretend, and he gets to dress up and paint his face!

This trans stuff is no different. He gets to put on clothes like the girls he stalks and creeps on. It gets him in touch with his "lesbian soul", his one very strong fetish since forever, and it gives him victim points and other complicated nonsense he can give word salads too.

Remember though, in 2007, none of what Chris said about "the homos" was troll driven, that was 100% his thoughts. I have to wonder if these days, when Chris says he's "bi", that's just not some retarded double talk for "I'm a girl, I'm bisexual because I like other girls".
I've always said that Chris has found it preferable to pretend things bend over backwards to his whims, instead of doing the bare minimum and working to make himself happy with what he's got. As things got worse, his fantasies got more elaborate, to the point he's spent time in jail and now goes around saying he's lesbian Jesus with a firm desire for reality itself to crumble so he can live as an omnipotent being in a cartoon fantasy world...with billions of dollars waiting for him from Payday 2.

In another life, Chris could possibly have found a creative outlet in performance with the right kind of guidance. The old 'Rollin and Trollin' video proved that, at least in the golden age of CWC, he actually was almost acting normal if he so wanted. Hollywood is obviously something that he never would achieve but maybe on a more local theatre circuit he could have had some success.
 
The one constant over the years with Chris has been his genuine and deep seated antagonism towards men. And it's not hard to see why. Dude was a giant pussy and the girls at school coddled him. Plus when girls are being mean it's more subtle than when boys are being mean. Almost certainly too subtle for Chris to pick up on.
Geez, is that what I'm doing wrong? Maybe I should start sending Morse code to girls I don't like.

But yes, Chris took coddling as proof that they were into him or something.

And as we know no good deed goes unpunished.

Except the only ones who seem to be suffering is Chris and or Barbara. At least in the long term.

The Gal Pals were kind for what they did but even then I think the only saw him on what every odd day so that was what Tuesday and Thursday.

At least if he had faced High School alone he would have had a better idea of what to expect from the world. You can almost call it lying to Chris.

What is what makes me think that Chris will always lie to himself about what he is.
 
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Geez, is that what I'm doing wrong? Maybe I should start sending Morse code to girls I don't like.
Try writing proposition notes to rocks and throwing them at women, as you squint through a portable game's camera zoom lens at them. If that fails, nothing works better than writing what you want on your muscle bra!
But yes, Chris took coddling as proof that they were into him or something.
Wasn't there a time where the unit went out to eat somewhere, and Chris was talking to the waitress, and thought she was flirting with him for being so nice and listen to him babble on about his comics and stuff?
At least if he had faced High School alone he would have had a better idea of what to expect from the world. You can almost call it lying to Chris.
The gal pal protectors really did screw him up for most of his life, thinking they were hanging around him because they honestly liked Chris. Still, when Chris found out the awful truth, life did kick him in the balls, but he bounced back pretty well all things told. We didn't get any death threats, or simmering rage, at the gal pals, or even his parents, or the school, so that was at least a silver lining.
 
I don't think his gal pals in hs screwed him over that bad. I think his lack of parenting and actual role models (especially male) in his life were a bigger factor. Had he had a big brother figure that would look out for him I think he would've been better off
Try writing proposition notes to rocks and throwing them at women, as you squint through a portable game's camera zoom lens at them. If that fails, nothing works better than writing what you want on your muscle bra!

Wasn't there a time where the unit went out to eat somewhere, and Chris was talking to the waitress, and thought she was flirting with him for being so nice and listen to him babble on about his comics and stuff?

The gal pal protectors really did screw him up for most of his life, thinking they were hanging around him because they honestly liked Chris. Still, when Chris found out the awful truth, life did kick him in the balls, but he bounced back pretty well all things told. We didn't get any death threats, or simmering rage, at the gal pals, or even his parents, or the school, so that was at least a silver linin
 
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I don't think his gal pals in hs screwed him over that bad. I think his lack of parenting and actual role models (especially male) in his life were a bigger factor. Had he had a big brother figure that would look out for him I think he would've been better off
He did, but then Chris betrayed Null and ran to Praetor.

It's too bad his own brothers couldn't have made a little bit of an effort but then again no one can really blame them with the parents they had.

I think at least Bob tried to make more of an effort with Chris than he did his own kids and the result is what we have before us.
 
He did, but then Chris betrayed Null and ran to Praetor.

It's too bad his own brothers couldn't have made a little bit of an effort but then again no one can really blame them with the parents they had.

I think at least Bob tried to make more of an effort with Chris than he did his own kids and the result is what we have before us.
I sometimes wonder how it would've gone if Bob had paid boys to protect and befriend chris rather than girls. He probably wouldn't have had crushes on gal pals in high school and maybe he would be a bit more functional.
 
I sometimes wonder how it would've gone if Bob had paid boys to protect and befriend chris rather than girls. He probably wouldn't have had crushes on gal pals in high school and maybe he would be a bit more functional.
That's not really a bad idea, as a matter of fact I believe Chris was a waterboy on a boy's basketball team in Junior High or High School.

But you also have to remember that Chris gets a lot of his prejudices from his father and mother. If Bob disliked and mistrusted other men, so will Chris.

If Barbara thought ill of men in general and/or scornful of any males that were close to her, that latched on to Chris.

Once girls would not come near him other than for pity friendship or to troll him (because we can't think of any reasons why they wouldn't want to date him) basically whatever prejudice that was instilled in Chris was activated (I guess you could use that word?) And he was basically his parents self-fulfilling prophecy.

The seeds were always there, it just takes a right kind of conditions to make Chris's hatred of men grow.
 
That's not really a bad idea, as a matter of fact I believe Chris was a waterboy on a boy's basketball team in Junior High or High School.

But you also have to remember that Chris gets a lot of his prejudices from his father and mother. If Bob disliked and mistrusted other men, so will Chris.

If Barbara thought ill of men in general and/or scornful of any males that were close to her, that latched on to Chris.

Once girls would not come near him other than for pity friendship or to troll him (because we can't think of any reasons why they wouldn't want to date him) basically whatever prejudice that was instilled in Chris was activated (I guess you could use that word?) And he was basically his parents self-fulfilling prophecy.

The seeds were always there, it just takes a right kind of conditions to make Chris's hatred of men grow.
he was a waterboy, though he considered himself "manager", i do wonder what his relationship with the players was like; what they thought of him, and how they treated him. the only way to find out would be to track down the members of the basketball team during those years and interview them. but that probably wont ever happen, nor does it really need to happen.
 
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On an unrelated note.
What do you think will happen when barb dies? Will Chris be able to realistically pay the mortgage?
 
I have a question about a line I have read on the CWCki:

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The line at the bottom. I'm having trouble finding any information about this supposed program. Where is this information coming from? Did Chris reveal this or is this just speculation?
 
I have a question about a line I have read on the CWCki:

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The line at the bottom. I'm having trouble finding any information about this supposed program. Where is this information coming from? Did Chris reveal this or is this just speculation?
Yeah I wish it was more informative, from what I understand it's an educated guess based on how the system should be operating.

Chris was released into the world on March 27th. His charges were dropped on August 8th. It's highly likely that in that period of time he was under review in some group home (Caden's house in Big Island was only bought on June 26th), before they deemed fit to drop the charges. And it's likely not a coincidence that Chris' first signs of online life happened only after that date, on August 10th (his Pokemon GO account) and August 12th (his PSN account)
 
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I have a question about a line I have read on the CWCki:

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The line at the bottom. I'm having trouble finding any information about this supposed program. Where is this information coming from? Did Chris reveal this or is this just speculation?
It's how the autism deferral works. Basically it's a law for autistic people that don't know what they're doing was wrong, and they didn't have any ulterior motives. The one example I read in media reports regarding it was an autistic man who broke into a store in the winter to sleep, because he was homeless and cold, but didn't steal anything, yet the police gave him a B&E and burglary charge.

Basically, in exchange for pleading guilty, or the court having a preponderance of evidence that the person is guilty, the courts will drop the charge and put said person into a treatment program. Since Chris's lawyer only applied for the deferral after it was announced that his incest had wobbled to a felony, and there was a felony grand jury convening, his lawyer applied for the deferral before Chris really got jammed up.

It's supposed to be for things like that. Applying it to something like what Chris did, which was premeditated and structured, not withstanding that Chris knew it was wrong, was a real test of the law.

Chris probably knows exactly what happened with the deferral, but since the case was sealed, he's operating under the assumption that he can just lie, and no one can challenge him on it because only the courts, Heilberg, and him know exactly what happened.
 
It's supposed to be for things like that. Applying it to something like what Chris did, which was premeditated and structured, not withstanding that Chris knew it was wrong, was a real test of the law.
It's an inference from what happened that it was a deferral. Conceivably it could be a different kind of deferral, but otherwise it matches the pattern, a period of apparent supervision followed by dismissal of the charges. The reason it's assumed to be the autism deferral is that explicitly references autism, Chris was in some period of psychiatric observation, his main actually named known condition is autism, and it seems like the kind of thing Heilberg would do considering his (few) public statements.

Also there's Chris's long history of playing the tism card, both irl and in court, e.g. Rob Bell's "adult autistic child" argument in the Snyder case.
 
Okay, what is the difference between a troll and a ween? Is it simply that they became weens once everyone decided to stop trolling chris? Are all current troll attempts banished to being called weens?
 
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It's an inference from what happened that it was a deferral. Conceivably it could be a different kind of deferral, but otherwise it matches the pattern, a period of apparent supervision followed by dismissal of the charges. The reason it's assumed to be the autism deferral is that explicitly references autism, Chris was in some period of psychiatric observation, his main actually named known condition is autism, and it seems like the kind of thing Heilberg would do considering his (few) public statements.
Yeah. Heilberg made a motion "for autism disorder deferr" (the court website cut out the last bit of text, then later censored out the line).. https://sonichu.com/cwcki/File:Cour...0141-00)_-_9_August_2022_Pleadings-Orders.png
 
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