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No it isn't.
The CWCki is down for me (502), but it is CHRIStian CHANdler.. He also said it had a Jackie Chan vibe lol.
You'll find it under the common questions page or something similar.
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The CWCki is down for me (502), but it is CHRIStian CHANdler.. He also said it had a Jackie Chan vibe lol.
You'll find it under the common questions page or something similar.
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Joel Tarkus
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I mean we could all go to his funeral? If no one else shows up? That is probably not a good idea but an idea nonetheless.
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Plus we're sorta used to the medallion now but people were flipping out about it back then.
Secondary to that is what @Trilby said, Chris-chan is pronounced almost exactly like Christian.
Also secondary, Cracky-chan was still popular back then and a lot of poor imitations of her were posting on b who were also given the suffix -chan, like Hamtaro-chan. So in addition to the above reasons, I think Chris getting the -chan suffix was a dig at his lack of any sort of masculine traits.
Edit: I saw the other posts about this. I'm wrong, ok? I'M WORKING ON IT!!
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Hmm well thats your opinion
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And boy they sure were on to something! Even back then, everyone knew!
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The CWCki is still down for me, but I found the page link in my browser history:
https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Common_Questions
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Afaik 4channers started to call him that as in the former term and then he co opted it because of the latter. I don't think he had gone into weeb territory at that point but I'm sure he didn't mind once he did.
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That lead me on another binge-reading that gave me a question. So, Chris was upset that Asperchu has violence, and as we know Chris thinks cartoons are "real" and the violence is actually happening in cartoon land. I knew he liked Saw, and didn't think about it much, but this quote particularly got me:
Chris: Hm. Yeah, but I mean, still, that's Hollywood magic, you know, that's, you know, the people, the actors in those movies are still, are still alive and well, they just...
Think about it... Chris thinks that cartoons are real but movies are just completely fake... does he know movies get storyboards and concepts that get just as detailed if not more detailed than comics? I wonder if Chris has ever thought about this, maybe if someone mentioned it to him he would suddenly think of movies as "real" too and start to dislike stuff like Saw because in the storyboarding process these characters were actually tortured and died. I mean, someone came up with the story and it was drawn on paper, why would it not be as real as a comic just because it got filmed after?
https://sonichu.com/cwcki/Saw
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I think you're thinking about this way too much. Chris doesn't believe any of this stuff very concretely. Chris is a child playing pretend and he has no one to tell him to shut the fuck up and get cleaned up for dinner. That's about the extent of it.
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I disagree to an extent, he wouldn't be complaining about Asperchu, or Billy Mays, or Freestyle Dancing for This World, or have PTSD over Simonla enough to quit the comics for years if he didn't actually believe in it, would he?
I mean, I believe you know him better than most of us, what makes you think he doesn't actually believe any of it? He insists so heavily and it seems like it's the majority of what he thinks about these days. I mean, wasn't he trying to get other people to see his imaginary friend characters? That means he has to believe it to some degree, unless it's a plan way to complicated for Chris to think of.
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I think that yes, it's wrong to make fun of a disabled person for being disabled. But there are a lot of creators who definitely have or debatably have some form of mental health issue. Francis E. Dec, Henry Darger and Tommy Wiseau all spring to mind. If you say it's wrong to laugh at the works of Chris, then an awful lot of outsider art is wrong.
How do we define "sincere mourners?" I'll definitely be sad when Chris dies. The guy's provided me with countless hours of entertainment. I wouldn't go to his funeral and shout "JULAAAAY!" as he's lowered into his pauper's grave.
He'd still deny it. For comparison, he's always denied that he's fat, until Quinn came along with her feeder fetish. Suddenly he was all about pointing out how fat he is. He could be bald as a bowling ball and he'd still be pretending to be a beautiful Japanese teenager with long, luxuriant blue hair.
It's an interesting question. He is aware that MLP is not real, in the sense that there are voice actors and animators behind it, yet he claims that it is real and happening in another universe. Presumably the same rule could apply to all fiction.
Of course, the reality is that he just doesn't like anyone else playing with his toys, but couldn't think of a legit reason why other people shouldn't be allowed to mess with his creations just as he messes with theirs and, as is so often the case when he doesn't think these things through, he ran headlong into another contradiction.
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The symptoms of autism include being bothered by little inconsistencies or mistakes. It's why Chris wore that wrist warmer behind his medallion chain for years. It chafed on his neck in just the wrong way, to the point that it triggered his autism something fierce and it bothered the fuck out of him.
Same thing with Sonic's arms being blue. And same thing with someone fucking with Sonichu's continuity.
In regards to Billy Mays, a big chunk of that was trolling induced. Same thing with Liquid Chris. Actually, Chris didn't want to react to Liquid Chris in the first place, we had to artificially find reasons to get him to make videos about Liquid.
I don't think Chris believes in this stuff because he backs down when challenged on it. When challenged, he stops and talks normally about reality like a normal person does. He never takes any gambles or risks based on his alleged beliefs.
If you tell Chris that he could win a million dollars if he demonstrates any proof of his magic, but if he's wrong, he gets some sort of punishment, he never takes that bet. He never takes any bets. At best, he's like an old lady who insists on wearing religious jewelry or some shit. It's normal, sane person levels of superstition, but just cloaked in hilarious, autistic garb.
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Asperchu, Simonla and Billy Mays didn't upset him because Chris believes in that world. It's because Sonichu is basically his "happy place." It's a fictional world that he controls where everyone loves him, everything goes his way and no one can do things he doesn't like.
One of the things he hates about reality is that he can't control it - it's a chaotic place where there are no concrete rules and people can do whatever they like. That's not a problem in Sonichu. Everything happens exactly as he wants it to.
But then someone else comes in and messes around with his world, well, there goes his refuge. The logical thing to do would be to just say "that doesn't count," but Chris is a concrete thinker. Any change made, especially if it's one made by him (albeit through blackmail), did happen.
I guess one way to describe Chris' view of his world would be to imagine it as a painting or a model of something fictional. It's not real, but it has a definite form and can be damaged.
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I like to follow ShitpostBot 5k and this piece just killed me, it's so perfect
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This is a difficult idea to grasp, seeing how Chris eventually included his real-life stressors into things, but it is extremely true. And if you want to verify it, you need to go through the history of Sonichu as a comic:
It's very interesting to me that he started actively drawing the comic when he was suspended from PVCC & turned down by Sarah Hammer, that's when life was meanest to him (at the time), thus he needed a hugbox, that was probably the point where the comic turned from an idea he entertains every once in a while to something he feels he has to do, you will notice that it is quite innocent and boring (very similar to today's incarnation, btw).
But Chris can't spend all day drawing the comics, he has a love quest to attend to!
So he makes those trips to malls and retail stores to find his sweetheart, and those end as we all know, and given that Chris is largely a confrontation-averse wimp, he naturally has things left unsaid, and it EATS at him (think of George Costanza needing to retort to the shrimp joke). So he starts inserting those events into the comics, but with his side fully said as he wishes, and him being the victor in everything*. This turns Sonichu into a hugbox + an explicit power fantasy comic.
Eventually, he gets discovered by trolls, and gets owned in every possible and impossible way, thus, his power fantasy starts including revenge fantasies on his tormentors & love fantasies with his imaginary sweethearts. One of their attack vectors is through his comics, they keep asking him tough questions about it, they keep criticizing its quality and content, and eventually, they come up with a character (Simonla), and after he
After a lot of back & forth, he relents and kills off Simonla.
This seemingly affects him more than anything, he completely stops drawing the comics, he begins withdrawing from the online world, and he completely disappears.
Later he returns to making the comics, but this time, he brings it back to basics (sort of, because now Ponies are on his mind far more than Sonic), there is no explicit power fantasy, but it is still a hugbox, and his circumstances now are much more dire than in the comic's beginnings, so it is now more of an implicit power fantasy, he doesn't necessarily correct any real-life events, but the comic still depicts his OCs with what he feels he needs now (a rainbow-tinted life, filled with friends that always revere & appreciate him..etc), his latest OC (Night Star) has everything he's wishing for:
- Psychic Powers: So he can know what everybody's thinking and not necessarily have to think things through himself
- A Fantasy Childhood: In which he is more appreciated and acknowledged for his talents (lol).
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* With that said, he never is the victor when it comes to his love quest, even in the comics, I think this is because he doesn't know what life in a relationship is really like, and thus has no reference point for it, he has references for imagining the wedding day, the hanky panky..etc. But he clearly never envisioned what life will be beyond that, and amazingly enough, never found anything in TV or Vidya either.
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Seriously, I just read the entire transcript of that chat, and I think it gives one of the best examples of Chris's writing style back then, to the current chicken scratch it is now. I also have a extremely hard time believing Chris actually wrote everything by himself, without anyone's help. It's also funny how the chat originally started with Andrew asking Chris where Robert was, and slowly degrading into a borderline therapist session, but instead of Andrew being the one breaking down Chris, the opposite is happening. I'm honestly shocked that Chris was able to type full coherent sentences and questions, as well as spell the words correctly.
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I also think that idea is partially Chris trying to use the "lovable loser always getting rejected by women leading to hilarious results" trope that's common in TV shows and movies. He probably sees it on a sitcom or anime or something and thinks "that's exactly what my life is like!"
Makes sense seeing how derivative all of Sonichu is.
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What you're talking about sounds like a person with a doctorate in English or an OCD type, no, Chris just has weird sensory issues and object fixation/obsession on cartoon characters. I really don't believe Chris has the neural circuitry to process large and small pattern recognition as evidenced by facial blindness or dressing inappropriately.
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Fixations/Obsessions and sensory overloads are all symptoms of Autism, but being bothered by minor stuff is too, consider Chris's reaction to the Blarms stuff, it must have been eating at him on the inside (It is a minor change in one of his biggest obsessions, so it ticks many boxes), otherwise it would not be so visceral. Consider that Chris is also the kind of person who works out and memorizes relatively intricate backstories for his otherwise paper-thin characters, and seems to get highly annoyed when someone makes a mistake about them or misrepresents them.
Autists in general can be very detail-oriented, that's why they congregate at places like Wikias, where minute info on anime characters (For example) is highly prized and extensively recorded.
I have recently learned of Ulillillia (God that name is hard to spell), who is a severe OCD patient, and has to face some weird obstacles in his life as a result. If you look at him, you'll see that he is extremely different from Chris.