Containment Random Thoughts & Questions

Just to speculate, could the justice system even do anything about them? Europe-fag here so i have no idea how everything works. Can people get sentenced to anything because they've manipulated others? Perhaps that'd fall under abuse of power.
Here in Canada, there were prosecutions when an 15 year old girl (I believe) was bullied by her peers on the internet and killed herself. Things like posting manifestoes and the like are pretty much targetable by the authorities and the few incidents of bulling over the internet did find its way into courts. I think here in Canada they are tightening up on what you can say and do to a person and can be prosecuted for it. I mean things like "I don't think your a nice person" would probably be ok, but on the level of what the Idea Guys did, Bella did or Preator did would be prosecutable as far as I know. Even BlueSpike would wind up in court.
 
In line with the Conrad Roy case, the state could charge the people who it believes were somehow responsible for the crime with the crime itself, but it would be very difficult to prove, a huge gamble of prosecutorial credibility and resources that they probably don't want to invest on this shitshow, and relying on the same precedent probably will result in a few months of jail time at most even if they get a conviction on the top count.
Would it be a gamble though? I mean with the CWC-wiki, Youtube accounts, transcripts and all of this evidence is in existence and out that that the actions undertaken by numerous Trolls did do irreparable harm to a deranged individual, putting aside what you think about Chris-Chan's involvement, who has suffered at their hands. I mean this who incident started because ILJ trolled Chris into saying what he did. I am sure that there is plenty of evidence to charge them with something, just the lack of will that is missing.
 
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Any attempt to prove a new theory of criminal culpability is a gamble. If no one has ever been convicted of rape for telling someone else to commit a rape before then there is no telling what might happen here. Given the added difficulties of the fact that the trolls didn't send their messages from Virginia and that anything involved with Chris could take all sorts of absurd turns, this is probably not going to be the case where a prosecutor tries to push the bounds of the law.
 
Any attempt to prove a new theory of criminal culpability is a gamble. If no one has ever been convicted of rape for telling someone else to commit a rape before then there is no telling what might happen here. Given the added difficulties of the fact that the trolls didn't send their messages from Virginia and that anything involved with Chris could take all sorts of absurd turns, this is probably not going to be the case where a prosecutor tries to push the bounds of the law.
I don’t know, what other cards does he have to play? The defense has already implied that shifting the blame to online trolling is his exact strategy, and who’s the freshest Chris troll on record? Isabella Janke.
 
In discussions in the various CWC threads here about this horrendous action, the incest, there seems to have been some hostility between posters when it comes about what will and should happen to CWC as a result.

I've been pondering this, on and off, and it seems that some of the conflict is coming because we're all trying to present one answer, when in fact we are asking at least four different, but connected, questions, namely:
  1. What is CWC's legal culpability? Under the legal system where CWC is what will the law do to him.
    (LEGAL)
  2. What is CWC's actual level of competence? That is, to what degree does CWC function mentally in comparison to a normal adult, and to what degree can he make assessments about his environment, its expectations, and behaving safely in it.
    (MEDICAL)
  3. What is CWC's actual level of ethical responsibility in this? This question depends in part on the second question, but also on people's personal beliefs about crime and punishment. Are people ethically responsible for the consequences of their actions, even if they are currently mentally incompetent? (ETHICAL)
  4. Finally, to what degree does this action say about CWC's ability to function in a society, and does the society need to be protected from him and he need to be protected from himself? This question is unconnected to CWC's ethical responsibility or autonomy. One does not choose whether to protect society from hurricanes or wild lions based on their culpability, instead we just make a risk assessment.
    (SOCIAL)
Now the position I have been arguing, based on extrapolating what I've seen of CWC and my limited applicable professional experience has been to ignore the first question. I have no idea about US law and any proclamations I make about this are just things I think should happen in an ideal world. (LEGAL)

For the second I have serious doubts that CWC is capable of the same level of understanding as a normally functioning adult. Any debates about this are just technical assessments of what is scientifically correct or incorrect, and have no connection whatsoever to any moral debates about right and wrong (MEDICAL)

As a result of this, for the third question I don't think that CWC has the same level of moral responsibility as a normally functioning adult who committed this act. I also have personal belief that the autonomy to make an informed and unimpeded choice about an action is essential to being culpable for it. This is a purely ethical question, but debate here cannot occur unless there is a consensus reached on the second question. (ETHICAL)

Finally, because of the severity of this act, I believe society does need to be protected from CWC to a degree, and CWC needs to be protected from himself. Which is my answer to the fourth question. CWC's culpability is irrelevant to this, just the danger he poses. (SOCIAL)

So, because of the way I've answered these four actions while I do not necessarily believe CWC can be held ethically responsible to the full degree for this action, I think this action proves that CWC is not safe to be allowed to care for other people, care for himself, or necessarily make choices about his own life. Which leads me to believe some form supervision, group home, conservatorship, or institutionalization is the just choice in response to his action.

Hopefully this outlines where some communication breakdowns have occurred when discussing this.

As a finally thought, there is another question, a question zero, being what actually happened, but that's a whole different can of worms.
 
I don't know if anyone's posted up this as yet.

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Visiting the Sonichu comic on Tapas.io will get this screen.
Don't know if that's because of the incest drama, the blatant plaguarism, or because a certain page got flagged for inappropriate content.

Either way, that's another place that's banned Chris.
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Thank God his Redbubble is still up.
 
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Today may be Friday the 13th but it was a very lucky day for the people flying from Virginia to Seattle. Because they didn't have to deal with Chris and his horrible stench and sperging for several hours on a plane this morning.
Thats gotta be tearing him up right now. I’ll never say this of a ponycon again, but I hope that shit off the chain this year. And I bet it will be, from my experience everybody is getting just a little more turnt this summer at any kind of gathering.

But it’s not all bad for Chris this weekend, I hear Saturday's at CVJ they serve that good red jello with dinner.
 
Thats gotta be tearing him up right now. I’ll never say this of a ponycon again, but I hope that shit off the chain this year. And I bet it will be, from my experience everybody is getting just a little more turnt this summer at any kind of gathering.

But it’s not all bad for Chris this weekend, I hear Saturday's at CVJ they serve that good red jello with dinner.
Trust me a year without their One yearly chance for casual off the walls hookups that aren't over only fans or Skype? Chris would give his sould to just be there to watch the action. Oh well maybe he'll get plenty of it after he's processed into hard time and hosed down to where years of stink and grime gone .
 
Why didn’t Bob and Barb ever consider top surgery for Chris’s manboobs and instead let them wear a “muscle bra”? Insurance and tugboat likely would’ve covered surgery.

I’m wondering because top surgery in their early 20s would’ve only been positive for Chris and Bob wasn’t into crossdressing.
 
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It's Chris. This guy has lived on fast food crap for most of his life, and paid for subscriptions to Japanese monthly snack parcels. He regards McDonalds as haute cuisine and microwaved spaghetti and meatballs as a nutritious dinner.

He is going to eat as much jail/prison food as he can get, like the pig that he is (and that's an insult to pigs, who can be intelligent and charming creatures). As some have said, it could go either way, but I suspect strongly that when Chris gets out he'll look more like Mr Creosote than David Beckham. He'll stuff prison loaf, he'll stuff pizza, he'll stuff Spam, he'll stuff fries.
He turned his snout up at jail food before. But this isn’t over night. He’ll get hungry. I hope it’s lunch meat he doesn’t like.


Why didn’t Bob and Barb ever consider top surgery for Chris’s manboobs and instead let them wear a “muscle bra”? Insurance and tugboat likely would’ve covered surgery.

I’m wondering because top surgery in their early 20s would’ve only been positive for Chris and Bob wasn’t into crossdressing.
Some people think it’s only for true and honest women. Like just getting the surgery is more effeminate that having the moobs. I can’t explain the thought processes of boomers.

Also, for insurance to cover it, the patient has to be below a certain weight (last I heard). Chris wouldn’t clear that bar.
 
This was supposed to be the weekend of Everfree.

Now, only I am going to a big convention this weekend
I'm glad you brought that up. Is anyone planning to attend that convention?
I am wondering if somebody there might do something of interest, be it attempt to cosplay as Chris-Chan (bonus points if it's in a prison uniform) or make some reference to him.
 
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