Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

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Okay, I deleted my comment, but I really can't tell if Barry Keoghan is FTM trans or not. I know it's highly inappropriate of me to ask, but literally nobody talks about this and it makes me feel like I'm crazy because of it.
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So was Barry born female? In the shirtless picture, it looks like you can kind of see faint chest scars.

O, wonder!
How many fucked up Irish are there here!
How alcoholic mickdom is! O brave new world,
That has such people in't!
 
O, wonder!
How many fucked up Irish are there here!
How alcoholic mickdom is! O brave new world,
That has such people in't!

I am certain that James Joyce and Shane McGowan are both sitting on a park bench in heaven, pissed as farts, throwing their empties at the Virgin Mary as she walks past with baby Jesus in a pram, while Sinead o’Connor chugs vodka as she screams at St. Peter for letting her in now that she is a Muslim.
 
Yeah that's fetal alcohol syndrome, not poonerism.
He is a weird-looking guy, but one has to be careful not to turn into a "transvestigator."

Although I wonder if the pooners would complain if he were cast as an FtM character. It'd be more of a Linda Hunt/Carel Struycken situation, taking advantage of someone who's weird-looking IRL for your mutant character, without the liability of wrangling a pooner actress.
 
So for all the desisters and gnc "tranny coded" people, whats stopping you from transitioning? What is stopping you from giving in and saying "fuck it, I dont care anymore"?
For me I guess it is integrity and holding a personal vendetta. Let's say logically, even if one were to take HRT because they don't care about living long anyways, why would anyone want to associate with these people? They're shallow and mean spirited. They are two faced lying posers who don't practice what they preach.

Only the desperate would wanna stoop so low, and I'm not that desperate yet. I don't put all this work into myself for nothing. You are better off dying alone than with people who pretend to care, thats how I see it.
Reminds me of this meme:
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Let's say logically, even if one were to take HRT because they don't care about living long anyways,
A common trait in trannies is, that they think their transition-related path to early grave will look the way they just drop dead. Sudden darkness, Schluss, Ende. No thoughts about the possible kidney failure, a stroke like in case the locked-in pooner, or all those lesser problems that combined will make them 41%.
They are just like those people who eat trash with the same idea in mind and then surprise surprise they are gonna lose the other leg to the beetus and death is still quite not here.
 
So for all the desisters and gnc "tranny coded" people, whats stopping you from transitioning? What is stopping you from giving in and saying "fuck it, I dont care anymore"?
For me I guess it is integrity and holding a personal vendetta. Let's say logically, even if one were to take HRT because they don't care about living long anyways, why would anyone want to associate with these people? They're shallow and mean spirited. They are two faced lying posers who don't practice what they preach.

Only the desperate would wanna stoop so low, and I'm not that desperate yet. I don't put all this work into myself for nothing. You are better off dying alone than with people who pretend to care, thats how I see it.
Reminds me of this meme:
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Im a desister,
for me it was many diferent factors.

Ever since i have an idea of myself, i always thought that my life would be easier if i was a man, but not for any reason that was not external. Im a masculine woman, a lot of people already treat me poorly or at least less respectfully than if i was a feminine woman, mainly family members. If i was a man i could be masculine and no one would care, or thats what i thought at the time.
I was also in lgbt spaces on the internet since i was 15 years old. Im pretty sure i got groomed, guilt tripped into defending troons and cosidering becoming a pooner, i did become a they/them for a couple of years but to be honest being "non-binary" means nothing.
Ironically enough trying to defend troonism is what eventually got me to peak and get out of the cult. Trying to find arguments on why trans women can be women and why trans men are men made me do research, realizing that most sources didnt made any sense at all, so i tried looking at the other side of the argument.
I felt stupid for a while, i was at the time considering to become a valid dooderino but now i start to realize i dont really have any reasons to do so, but also i dont have any way to justify going throug the process of transitioning, taking hormones that would harm my body, mutilating my breasts. I just didnt want to believe it at first.
But since i was in these cult-like spaces, i had a lot of pooner friends who were just like me. Outcast young women that felt like didnt fit on society expectations, with interests on arts and the internet, who werent the most typical feminine ladies out there.
I had the both unfortunate and fortunate oportunity to see first hand how these women got consumed by transgenderism, i started noticing the patterns, and the consecuences. They all tell me how happy they are now, but all of them complain about every mild thing, no mater if its related to troonism or not.
It was fortunate because i could see how horrible things actually were without actually going there, but unfortunate because i saw what i thought were friends get rotted not only by poison and mutilation, but also a very harmful ideology, seeing how unhappy they trully are, seeing that it was all for nothing and yet they lie to themselves.

TLDR: the only people that could open my eyes on transgender ideology were troons themselves, no terf and no transphobe could convince me because i saw them as enemies, i had to witness it myself while being part of the cult i was trying to defend. It was both sad and poetic
 
But since i was in these cult-like spaces, i had a lot of pooner friends who were just like me. Outcast young women that felt like didnt fit on society expectations, with interests on arts and the internet, who werent the most typical feminine ladies out there.
See I relate to a lot of what you said, I was in the space too, I am also a masculine women and felt like it wouldve been easier being a man as I always "felt like one" due to not being like other women. and yet this is where I find our stories contrast.
I have never once met a woman, any women, no pooner no nothing, who has the same "masculine" mentality as I do. All I wanted was support for my self perceived dysphoria, something Ive struggled with since puberty. Yet all I was surrounded by were feminine women who got to enjoy makeup, got to get along with other women no problem, wear feminine clothes, etc yet still wanted to be called a man. It felt like a joke. Heres me struggling socially due to literally not being able to connect nor relate to most women (yet was sexually attracted to them(, yet theres a bunch of women who wanna larp as yaoi anime boys.
Later several people I knew who trooned out due to fetish reasons, and yet they get all this support. They get to have a community. Hell, one of them used these people in the past and was a chaser. Its actually common for people who deal with dysphoria to be made fun of and invalidated because they don't "pass", goes to show how superficial these people are,

You'd think the "we just wanna not die" crowd would've defend those with GD, not reject them? But no, apparently being truscum is bad, believing you need dsyphoria to transition is bad, yet here they are preaching the complete opposite to outsiders.

I hope every misguided person, whether male or female, finds a way out of this hellish hivemind and learn to love themself. You deserve so so so so much better. You will find people who care, I promise.
Glad you never took the plunge and poisoned yourself. Sorry for what happened to your friends, I know it must be hard to see.
 
Yet all I was surrounded by were feminine women who got to enjoy makeup, got to get along with other women no problem, wear feminine clothes, etc yet still wanted to be called a man
oh i did met plenty of these too, when i say that they "didn't fit society expectations" i don't only mean tomboys who are hyper masculine, many of them were quite feminine, in fact for most of them i was even more masculine in comparison, which is another factor that got me questioning my gender identity. But many of these girls would be very feminine, their "masculinity" was just wearing hoodies, having short hair and not wearing make up all the time.
That's the sad thing. For a woman to be considered masculine enough to be a man is to just deviate from the "ideal" womanhood a little.

That is for TIFs, for TIMs i always had a bad feeling about them, but i didn't speak out because i didn't interact with them a lot at the time.
But the very few TIMs i met, all of them ARE coomers, every single one, even til this day, all their accounts are filled with anime and furry porn, most are "transbians", so all their fetish material are coomer caricatures of female characters, but again as a teenager i was groomed into seeing drawings of furry women with huge tits and bulges "safe for work" (they are fully clothed, so its ok for a minor to see that, obviously!!) and totally not fetish content. Never said anything at the time, but i remember unconsciously avoiding MTF troons even as a supporter
 
But the very few TIMs i met, all of them ARE coomers,
Whats crazy is that people will entertain their idea of dysphoria too, they defend Rapid Onset Dysphoria.
I know people shit on TiMs a lot which must suck for any dettrans TIM or HSTS who actually does struggle with their gender, but they do it for a reason.
Yeah no, LuckyThePuppygirl07, I don't view your sudden "dsyphoria" thats based on not being a hot fuckable lesbian as valid, especially not after you openly shared tranny/femboy porn that bragged about not being women before you trooned out. Go back to enjoying your insanely privileged life as a soyboy straight dude. it's your fault women didn't like you, maybe if you treated people better you wouldn't suck so much.
 
So for all the desisters and gnc "tranny coded" people, whats stopping you from transitioning? What is stopping you from giving in and saying "fuck it, I dont care anymore"?
its the easy retarded option, so simple to just say "welp, guess the groomers were right! i AM broken. big pharma here i come!" I feel my disdain for pooners overpowers my dysphoria so bad that the idea of becoming one makes being in my current state incredibly more tolerable. I find it too embarassing and delusional to force others to believe in something that even I have trouble with understanding due to the fact its literally made up bullshit that changes regionally. I find it important to remember that if I were to transition, I'd only be projecting MY perception of what masculinity and "manhood" is, which with my female socialization will definitely be a womans perspective regardless. Why be a womans perception of a man when I can just be a woman that's different and spare the trouble. If my brain cant get with the program, thats not societys responsibility.

Also t-voice and t-dicks are fucking nasty. Whispy moustaches and neck-beards arent for me!
 
So for all the desisters and gnc "tranny coded" people, whats stopping you from transitioning? What is stopping you from giving in and saying "fuck it, I dont care anymore"?
The fact that I precisely don't care anymore.

I could blow 50k on surgeries, force everyone to refer to me a certain way, do a legal name and gender change, I could probably even "pass" after all that because I look androgynous as-is, but I don't care anymore. Really I've grown out of giving a fuck. It would bring no tangible benefit to my life, in fact it would probably make it worse due to being a time/money/effort sink, and that's without stuff like medical complications. How people perceive me and how I look is very low on my daily list of concerns.
 
The fact that I precisely don't care anymore.

I could blow 50k on surgeries, force everyone to refer to me a certain way, do a legal name and gender change, I could probably even "pass" after all that because I look androgynous as-is, but I don't care anymore. Really I've grown out of giving a fuck. It would bring no tangible benefit to my life, in fact it would probably make it worse due to being a time/money/effort sink, and that's without stuff like medical complications. How people perceive me and how I look is very low on my daily list of concerns.
This is me too.
As a small child I literally believed I would grow up to be a man because I 'felt' like a boy.
I was a tomboy growing up and had no desire to be like my older sister who was very feminine.
I was devastated to realise puberty would make me a woman no matter what and at that point in my life, if puberty blockers were available, I 100% would have wanted them.
Puberty was fairly late and luckily for me, didn't result in large breasts or noticeable hips.
As an adult I just live as a GNC woman, I don't wear dresses or makeup and dressed in whatever was most comfortable, which was often mens clothing, and have been mistaken for a man quite a few times.
I realized I had gotten over my gender dysphoria by simply not having enough time/energy left after living life, to worry about gender. I completely ignored my gender and it no longer mattered.
Now I'm an old lady, I look like an old lady (I thought) but last year, I was approached by the pride committee in my town asking if I, as a trans man, would like to represent the older LGBTQ demographic.
They were visibly offended when I laughed and said I'm just an old lady who cares more about comfort than gender, and that I didn't think it would be appropriate for me to pretend to be a woman pretending to be a man.
Anyway, all this to say, gender dysphoria is real, but it doesn't have to be the focus of your life, and you will most likely grow out of it as you age, as long as you actually build some kind of life that's not centered on your sex/gender.

Edited to Add: I definitely believe that hormones have a lot to do with 'feeling' like a man or a woman.
when I was pregnant was the only time I 'felt' like a woman, and I think there should be way more research done into giving people with gender dysphoria hormones that correspond to their actual sex and see if their dysphoria is alleviated.
 
It was also being around other ftms for me that made me go off the idea. I am shorter than average and not a lesbian so I might have looked like a pooner if I did transition, but the women that I know that have gone at least as far as top surgery has all been lesbian so I'm not dating but if I did, it would obviously remove basically all of my choices and I'm not going on fucking grindr.

I originally started iding as trans because of the internet / tumblr and I did just not want to deal with how things were at the time, and first off I made friends with these two older straight women who were very similar to my mother and just made me not want to interact with men or straight women at all and also were quite encouraging to me about iding as trans because they knew I wasn't comfortable with all the shit they did, then I made friends with some ftms who were most likely austistic and while I had done more research etc by the time I met them, two of them ended up going first on starting t and I kind of knew that they had a history of bad decisions so it just made me put a pin in doing anything myself for long enough for some other stuff to change in my life so that I felt I had other options than transitioning.

I still sort of know those two of them (and they are both lesbians) and they're doing okay? Both have had top surgery, one has switched to nb they / them pronouns and one has sort of detransitioned but still runs a transformation fetish art blog so I wouldn't be surprised if she retransitions, although I think it's also more about money for her now she's older. She really makes a lot of money out of it, and I think people underestimate how common transformation fetish is in trans spaces even with ftms (not just like gender change but also into animals).
I've never told them I detransed and haven't seen them irl since before covid, but they seem much more relaxed about stuff these days anyway, they've never said anything about obvious difference in how I dress & probably noticed the pronoun change.

The area I grew up in was not good and my home life would have been middle class probably if my parents had their shit together, but there was a lot of drug use + getting offered weed as a starter drug by older men if I socialised in the area I actually lived in, so I just ended up going on the internet / tumblr a lot. So a lot of people I knew from the area died of overdoses and also some pretty bad accidents, and even today I still get hit on by older men more than men my own age bc I look a bit younger, I just wanted to avoid all that to begin with.

I still get gender dysphoria technically, but it's 1:1 with when I am stressing / avoiding other stuff and I just never make the connection until the stress is over because I'm an idiot I guess. So I'm never sure if that 'counts' because it isn't a permanent state of feeling like it seems to be for others.
 
Of course, that's what they desperately want to happen. Being a victim is such an important part of the troon identity that actually being victimised is affirming. It's similar to how they brag about enjoying being sexually objectified, because that's what they think should happen to women, and therefore if it happens to them, it makes them a real woman. Troons would absolutely fucking love to be chased by death squads, because it would super-validate their status as vulnerable and marginalised, even at the cost of their own life, which we already know they undervalue so much that the biggest threat to troon existence is themselves (for 41% of them anyway).

Being able to wheeze "See! I told you so!!!!!" at the top of their hormone-withered lungs, while being chased down the street by masked Nazi thugs, is a delicious wankworthy fantasy to the narcissist troon mind. Such drama!

This is why it absolutely burns them up inside to merely sit alone in their hovels with nobody giving a shit. Without the lurid death squad fantasy, the horrifying mundanity of reality kicks in: you're not an embattled, brave, freedom-fighting woman. You're just a sad, pornsick man. They need to believe that they are up against the world's worst, most fascist, most murderous villains, because they are totally up for that fight (it's probably the testosterone). What they absolutely cannot handle is the thought that what they are actually up against is normality. In their imagination, they see themselves as the victims of roving gangs of far-right terrorists, but what they actually get is... just a bunch of regular people? They are amped up to hear "Die tranny die!", but what they actually get is "Whatever mate, just stay out of the ladies loos". The normie reaction to troons is crushingly ordinary. It evaporates the grand narrative on contact. Gone is the fearless, downtrodden hero on the right side of history. Instead stands a weird bloke in a wig. No swastikas in sight, no goose-stepping, no skinheads.

This is why they hate TERFS so much. They prepared for a fight against giant laser-eyed anime demons and moustache-twirling manifestations of pure evil - but what they got was middle-aged lesbians, who inflicted a total intellectual defeat upon them with zero bloodshed. They wanted bloodshed. Their own, if necessary. They are itching for trannicide, and its continual failure to happen damns them to the cold light of day where they have nothing but their own rotten thoughts to contend with. They have no great enemy. They experience no real threats. There will be no memorials, because nothing has actually happened to them.
Right-wing chuds are the same way. They so, so desperately want to be victims oppressed by woke game devs and Jews and Indians and vaccines and blacks and white women and whatnot all so they can pretend their hours wasted listening to garbage podcasts and gooning to BBC porn on /pol/ is some big fight to raise conscience and own da libs and save the huwhite race, when they're just bickering over absolute non-issues because they have nothing else going on in their lives. And guess who talks about having Nazi and incel phases?
 
So for all the desisters and gnc "tranny coded" people, whats stopping you from transitioning? What is stopping you from giving in and saying "fuck it, I dont care anymore"?
For me I guess it is integrity and holding a personal vendetta. Let's say logically, even if one were to take HRT because they don't care about living long anyways, why would anyone want to associate with these people? They're shallow and mean spirited. They are two faced lying posers who don't practice what they preach.

Only the desperate would wanna stoop so low, and I'm not that desperate yet. I don't put all this work into myself for nothing. You are better off dying alone than with people who pretend to care, thats how I see it.
Reminds me of this meme:
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I also am a desister. I was at my worst during the pandemic when I was broke and isolated with only fucking Reddit to keep me company. Christ I was a mess. Echo chambers and hug boxes are a powerful drug. Until one day I got banned for calling out an AGP pervert for being an AGP pervert. Then it all began to unravel.

Once the lockdowns ended and I got a job that actually paid enough for me to have fulfilling hobbies, things improved. I was in a better position to view things objectively, and came to the conclusion that this trans shit is a giant sham. It hurts people, physically and mentally. Now, I genuinely feel bad for the people who fell for it. Hell, it could have been me. I hope they get the help they need and recover their health. But as for those who promote this kind of thing as a normal lifestyle choice with only positive outcomes, they're the worst kind of person.
 
I still get gender dysphoria technically, but it's 1:1 with when I am stressing / avoiding other stuff and I just never make the connection until the stress is over because I'm an idiot I guess. So I'm never sure if that 'counts' because it isn't a permanent state of feeling like it seems to be for others.
Just a thought, but have you considered something like putting a card on the corner of your mirror, or refrigerator at eye level, that says something like: 'Your Gender Dysphoria is a cover for something that is making you stressed, or something you are avoiding. Look into that before you spiral'
Some type of reminder for yourself? Not sure if you're jn a position where this would help
 
Just a thought, but have you considered something like putting a card on the corner of your mirror, or refrigerator at eye level, that says something like: 'Your Gender Dysphoria is a cover for something that is making you stressed, or something you are avoiding. Look into that before you spiral'
Some type of reminder for yourself? Not sure if you're jn a position where this would help
Thank you, I have thought about that but not got around to it but it is a good idea.
 
I also am a desister. I was at my worst during the pandemic when I was broke and isolated with only fucking Reddit to keep me company. Christ I was a mess. Echo chambers and hug boxes are a powerful drug. Until one day I got banned for calling out an AGP pervert for being an AGP pervert. Then it all began to unravel.
There's a bunch of those "basically no topic" subreddits that ALWAYS devolve into a tranny hugbox. It should almost be a rule of the internet up there with r34. If a space exists for no reason; it'll be troonified. Anyway, the content of these subreddits is always fetish shit. The only difference between "UOOHOOOUU I WANT A CUTE GIRLDICK GF!! SEX AND WEEED!" is whether they're a tranny themselves, otherwise it's yucky chasing and banworthy.

TLDR: the only people that could open my eyes on transgender ideology were troons themselves, no terf and no transphobe could convince me because i saw them as enemies, i had to witness it myself while being part of the cult i was trying to defend. It was both sad and poetic
Even in an objective angle, troons are just low quality people. Being a troon is all they talk about, and they aren't even passing. Women wear shoes and jeans, troons fetishize heels and skirts. Women have hobbies, however few of them actually of any interest, but when'd you last hear of a troon who reads and knits? Which is very common in the very diverse workplace of mine? Nah they have male hobbies. Both shit like gaming and programming and more niche shit like CRT psx emulators and whatever. I genuinely haven't met a single troon who did anything womanly, if not forcing themselves. I've known hardcore feminazis who literally day to next, as if hormonally corrected, started loving pink and the idea of having her ass clapped and being called "His woman". Like a primordial sleeper agent in their body woke.

I hung out with a troon for quite a few years and it was mostly flirting to be honest, but the few times we broke through the porn barrier and spoke about something worthwhile, there was nothing. They had learned to walk on eggshells around all their troonie friends so they'd never have an actual opinion. I'd go "Bro WoW is a lot easier to get in and out of but that means the investment isn't respected and there's no personal growth journey". "Ah.. yeah". Bro? Then we'd have some newbies join our group and I'd say some shit of substance they'd vibe off of, only for the troon to get mad I "made better friends than them". Then I looked at their chat messages and it was just literal NPC tier responses. "ah, cool, how are you? haha nice". And this is a person who has socialized as a primary activity for 4-5 years.

Be yourself, appeal to less people than you don't. Find good, hard hitting friendships. And that's something I've never seen a troon do. They're so fucking scared of being anything other than best friends, which is hard when any and all opposition turns them to "YOU'RE TRANSPHOBIC"
 
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