Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[The Ugly One]

Question for the class, what’s the most disturbing aspect of troonism to you? For me, it’s the biological/medical stuff. The surgeries, and hormones especially is horrifying. And the social ramifications of this? it’s like the human body has become so malleable to the point where it means nothing.

The way they use children and babies as fetish props.

 

[Among Us Gaming]

Question for the class, what’s the most disturbing aspect of troonism to you?

The sheer number of old dudes that troon out. I tend to look up to and respect the older men around me (one of my quality checks for YouTube content is if it channel owner is a middle aged white guy). Seeing a phenomenon, that to me is some obscure LGBT/communist literature or internet phenomenon, start to affect men that have multiple decades on me is so viscerally disturbing to see what ought to be a wise old man turn into a fetish freak.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

I think it's not a separate disorder from body integrity dysmorphia (?) or the people who think they're actual werewolves. Just that the particular narrative that specific mental illness latches on to manifests itself depending on the individual. I also think that general dysmorphia is taken advantage of ("I really don't like my nose it's so big and ugly" turns into "I really don't like this male nose, it's so masculine, and it's supposed to be pretty like a girl because..." and so on).

From what I've seen, it's common for dysphoric childhood-onset trannies to be similarly fixated on amputation (as well as physical disfigurement more generally); they tend to obsessively self-diagnose, play up physical weaknesses, and represent themselves with disabled or disfigured characters. At its core it's all about marking yourself as "different" to compensate for some kind of identity damage sustained early in life. Similar to regular self-harm, I guess, except the effect has to be permanent in order to be soothing.

People with integrity disorders tend to have a favourite kind of mutilation but it isn't usually fixed -- in theory, they'd take anything they could get, so long as it made them into something else. Sometimes the BIID stuff comes first, but they glom onto trannyism down the line, because it's an intuitive outlet for boys who may feel that they've had their manhood stripped from them, and girls who want to escape womanhood.

The whole sexed-brains narrative is really not helpful, however. I suspect it was the result of psychologists trying to ascribe the same condition to everyone who wants to live as the opposite gender.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

Kiwifarmers who are parents, would you still truly love your child(ren) even if they trooned out and became the most gross, degenerate perverts who committed sex offenses?

I recall a post from the tranny sideshow thread around a year ago about an MTF who either physically or sexually assaulted his sister which lead to him eventually getting kicked out and disowned by his family. The post and the replies made me ponder about the notionhoods of unconditional love and the limits of parental love for their children. Now I don't doubt for a second that my parents love me unconditionally and like me as a person and I imagine everybody else's parents are in the same boat as well. I 'm not a parent myself and most likely never will be however so I can't empathise or understand how much love parents feel for their children. They say that parent-child love is one of the purest forms of love but knowing that trans narcissism and entitlement fuels a tranny's capacity to destroy relationships and cause a multitude of problems must put that parent child bond to the ultimate test and under a lot of intense strain.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Question for the class, what’s the most disturbing aspect of troonism to you? For me, it’s the biological/medical stuff. The surgeries, and hormones especially is horrifying. And the social ramifications of this? it’s like the human body has become so malleable to the point where it means nothing.

The entire concept of egghatching or cracking, whatever the hell they called it. They get so damn giddy about grooming children, and encouraging "never tell your parents this is happening." Some even boast about sending HRT to children, or even more dangerous DIY shit. The way they try to replace the parental figures as well like "I'm your new father/mother" or "trans mama" A honorable mention goes to the entire idea of SRS surgeries, and seeing the amount of horrors that happened. Whether it's those strange ftm "penises", or the horrifying gaping wounds that mtfs have. It didn't help one described his gaped wound being infected, And talking about how it was leaking "yellowish" fluids and throbbing

 

[The Poopsmith]

Question for the class, what’s the most disturbing aspect of troonism to you? For me, it’s the biological/medical stuff. The surgeries, and hormones especially is horrifying. And the social ramifications of this? it’s like the human body has become so malleable to the point where it means nothing.

The fact that the whole concept is completely closed off to any criticism whatsoever. No subject (especially one that's so prolific) should be above scrutiny.

 

[Sandshrew]

Kiwifarmers who are parents, would you still truly love your child(ren) even if they trooned out and became the most gross, degenerate perverts who committed sex offenses?

I'm not a parent. But if I were, I'd fully disown and never talk to my child again if they were a sex offender. That just puts other family members at risk (and maybe even myself, Chris chan raped his own mother ffs). And I don't know how fixable someone's brain is once they're that far gone to have raped someone or gone after a child. They've already permanently impacted another person's life forever.

I think some parents who enable their sex offender children are also in denial over how bad a thing their child did was. Like if their child was only caught with CP, then they might justify it with "at least they didn't do anything for real". Or if their child was a college date rape fratbro, then they might justify it with "that always happens at parties and he's so young, he made a mistake".

 

[Spanish Chud]

Why do trannies have such insane tastes for women?
Pic related

 

[NoCockatrice]

if they trooned out

the most gross, degenerate perverts who committed sex offenses

These aren't nearly the same things. I cross the line at sex offense.

I recall a post from the tranny sideshow thread around a year ago about an MTF who either physically or sexually assaulted his sister

Was it Jerry "lily" Orchard?
Regardless, if you let your child rape your another child, you don't love either of them.

I think some parents who enable their sex offender children are also in denial

Denial is a big part of it. But also, sex offender child and his parents share genes. So maybe the parent in question is also a weirdo.
But it is probably just denial. When you waste 18 years of your life raising and investing into a person who turns out to be a sex offender, I can easily see how one may not want to acknowledge that. It doesn't justify them though.

 

[Sandshrew]

These aren't nearly the same things. I cross the line at sex offense.

You're not a biological male. Sex crimes are 99% committed by males. Very few sex offenders are females.

Denial is a big part of it. But also, sex offender child and his parents share genes. So maybe the parent in question is also a weirdo.

Very true. I was considering bringing that up too in my reply. But I think most sex offenders are made, not born - though maybe they might have a genetic predisposition to mental illness, I think other factors like porn addiction are the main factor.

Why do trannies have such insane tastes for women?

Because they know no normal woman would ever talk to them, much less date them. Plus, a NEET discord femcel girlfriend is much more likely to already know about their favorite anime and videogames. They'd have nothing to talk about with a normal woman. It's the new "I want a gamer girl gf".

 

[NoCockatrice]

You're

What does your opinion on my identity have to do with anything I said in the thread?

I said trannies and rapists aren't the same things. Because it's true.

Sex crimes are 99% committed by males.

True.

most sex offenders are made, not born

Unless they were raped themselves and it fucked them up, they are born that way. You can't grow up that fucked up by accident.

they might have a genetic predisposition to mental illness

Yes.

factors like porn addiction are the main factor.

That's why it's important to not let your kids on the internet unsupervised.

 

[Sandshrew]

What does your opinion on my identity have to do with anything I said in the thread?

It is relevant because you have a clear bias toward trannies. Are all trannies rapists? No. But it's alarming that the MTF tranny sex offender population is way larger than the regular "cis" male sex offender population. FTMs tend to be less sexually degenerate than MTFs in general, and you're FTM, so you're a bit in denial. The WPATH organization (trans rights org) even got its start from the Eunuch Forums, which is a fetish forum that had a lot of erotic stories involving children.

Unless they were raped themselves and it fucked them up, they are born that way. You can't grow up that fucked up by accident.

I'm assuming you haven't read very much about the psychology behind porn addiction. Nor psychology in general. There are plenty of non-molested sex offenders. Porn addiction often is involved in the development of extreme paraphilias, as regular porn stops satisfying the addict, and they keep delving deeper into more and more extreme fetishes. This is a researched phenomenon. It doesn't exclusively affect young children, it affects adolescents and fully grown adults as well. There are many middle-aged men who suddenly troon out.

 

[NoCockatrice]

Spoiler

It is relevant

No, it's not. You just like to shit talk me. Admit it.

you have a clear bias

So do you. Everyone is biased. What matters are the actual points people make.

But it's alarming that the MTF tranny sex offender population is way larger than the regular "cis" male sex offender population

Sex pests try to cover their shit faking a condition popularised by the media. Not surprising.

The statistic you sent is of His Majesty's Prisons which is in London, whish is woke as fuck, so what else do you expect.

If you look at other prisons in non woke countries you won't find trannies. Because in said countries trannies aren't a protected class and it's not profitable to fake that label.

Not everyone who calls themselves tranny is an actual tranny.

you're a bit in denial

Denial of what? I know sex offenders try to larp as trans to get to women.
I said being trans doesn't make you a rapist and my reaction to a supposed child being these things would've been different.

Spoiler

you're FTM

you're a snitch

 

[NoCockatrice]

(different topic, so a separate post; but if I'm doubleposting too much - let me know)

I'm assuming you haven't read very much about the psychology behind porn addiction.

Not exactly my hobby

There are plenty of non-molested sex offenders

Yes. And I think they are, to some extent, born that way. It doesn't justify them though.

Porn addiction often is involved in the development of extreme paraphilias

True

It doesn't exclusively affect young children

It doesn't, but the earlier it starts the worse it gets.

There are many middle-aged men who suddenly troon out.

These are either AGPs or schizophrenics. Sudden radical changes in one's behaviour/appearance in general indicate a bad state of one's mental health.

The way porn affects you is also determined by your genes. Not everyone who watches sissy porn is gonna troon out (not everyone is into watching it to begin with). It depends on a person.

If consuming porn for a person is enough to become a rapist they were fucked in the head from the very start.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Why do trannies have such insane tastes for women?

Because they are mentally ill. I'm more surprised in that meme they are going for another troon as they prefer going after actual women. Also plenty of troons are porn addicts, this plays a role in how they have unrealistic expectations on what they want to date.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Kiwifarmers who are parents, would you still truly love your child(ren) even if they trooned out and became the most gross, degenerate perverts who committed sex offenses?

Indirect answer, but relates to something I was just thinking about.

As the resident deadname-finder I have spent an unusual amount of time looking at the public internet footprints/social media profiles of the families of trannies. This is because often the best way to figure out what Lilith was called before, if the public records search is not working out or if there isn't enough data to do one, is to suss out who his family members are, and then scroll back on their pages to his high school graduation or whatever and see what they called him then.

And one thing I see over and over again with the moms, specifically- and we are explicitly speaking here of the mothers of adult/late teens troonouts, who did NOT encourage or groom their kids to be trans- is that they stop updating their public facing social media right around the time of the transition.

Facebook has been around what, 20 years now? Some of these GenX and younger boomer moms have over a decade of posts visible to the public. And in some cases I can go all the way back in the photos tab and see baby pics, toddler pics, grade school projects, high school sports of the tranny who is in the news for being a sex pest or whatever. Christmas family pics in matching sweaters. All the cousins over for Thanksgiving. Trick or Treat. July 4 at the pool. Vacation in Florida. Sister's home for college break.

Everyone smiling and hugging and having fun.

And the son troons out and it stops.

Years of family traditions and bonds are broken. Now mom might very rarely surface to post a fundraiser for her friend's birthday charity, or share a picture of her garden. But even if there remain three or four healthy siblings, no more family group pics. No more holidays.

I've seen families less broken by an actual death.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

Years of family traditions and bonds are broken. Now mom might very rarely surface to post a fundraiser for her friend's birthday charity, or share a picture of her garden. But even if there remain three or four healthy siblings, no more family group pics. No more holidays.

I've seen families less broken by an actual death.

I think the most harrowing thing about all of this is that people's lives have been changed drastically/ruined for nothing. None of these idiot trannies knows what any of this will entail for everyone else. They just do it to do it--either because of brainwashing or the fugo/porn-sick bullshit people get caught up in. I don't blame these mothers for disappearing off the face of the earth. How fucking humiliating would it be to have them make a fool of you online too. Every "negative" word you say to them immediately goes on twitter with some woe is me bullshit attached to it. I hate to say this, but those women are protecting themselves. Do you really want your kid chimping out where your friends and family can see it? It's bad enough that your son gave himself gynecomastia, and he's running around dressed like a fucking loli. Then your daughter's chasing gay men larping as a fucking "boy" because she read too much yaoi.

These people have literally sacrificed everything that brought them joy over one fuck up of a kid. If they're gone online, think about what's happening in person. Every family photo might as well be a death sentence, because these little fuckers have to hold the spotlight everywhere they go. Everything you do revolves around that tranny bedrotting in your fucking house rent free. You probably can't even go to family events anymore because they just *have* to go. To announce their trans joy and how you failed them as a parent. These women's lives are dead. They might as well walk into the sea and never come back. At least, they can't be humiliated at their own funeral when their tranny kid rips the mic out of pastor's hands to scream about trans rights.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

Sorry to double post but I just thought of this. I never once met an authentic lesbian or faggot that wanted to transition to be with another woman or man. When I was a teenager still sorting out my feelings, not for a second did I think to troon out to be with another girl.

Spoiler: TMI

I had no interest in boys. I was too young to even realize that I had “really” close relationships with other girls until I was almost in college.

I’m positive at this point, these people troon out because no one will have them for whatever reason. Or they’re in denial about their sexuality or want to be gender special. Look at sewer mutant men suddenly becoming “sapphic”/lesbians over night. All these women chasing after men as a sudden faggots or “femboys”. There’s all these people that transition to be with the same sex, but never once do they acknowledge that they’re in a heterosexual relationship by default. It’s still that gender special bullshit to claim that their totally not straight at the end of the day.

 

[2mm and 99 others]

Another horrifying aspect of troonery is the power to suppress and overlook all the red lights, flags, common sense and second thoughts not even in trannies themselves, but even many people around, regardless of their education level.
They will say, this hackjob gives you/me a vagina that is just like the real thing! And the people just accept it at face value like idiots, they don't stop and ask 'Waitwaitwait, will it? Really? Can't be!'
And, well, I am not exactly in the position to argue with a doctor (not an urologist tho) who thinks that amhole havers don't suffer urinary infections and horrifying hygiene problems regularly and that complications are rare.

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

Question for the class, what’s the most disturbing aspect of troonism to you? For me, it’s the biological/medical stuff. The surgeries, and hormones especially is horrifying. And the social ramifications of this? it’s like the human body has become so malleable to the point where it means nothing.

The way they've twisted things so reality is fake and lies are the truth.

Their "authentic self" is not the person they are, with all their functioning parts, and that they have been for their entire life. Their real self must be unlocked with drugs, surgery, and lies.

If you see a man, who is in fact a man but does not want to be called a man, and call him a man, you are lying (same for a woman saying she isn't a woman). The observable reality in front of you isn't the real them. The man blatantly lying by saying he's a woman when he isn't is actually the one describing the truth.

Fifteen years ago, if you heard someone say "kids should be themselves", they meant they shouldn't feel ashamed if they liked something weird or if they wanted to play with an unusual toy. Now it means that child must be enshrined in a lie, raised to hate themselves because they're taught something is wrong with their perfectly normal bodies, and get medically stunted and chopped up. Their real selves are hidden behind a ton of horrific abuse; just them as they are is not their real self.

Getting people so dedicated to such ridiculous upside-down logic is horrifying. They don't even see a contradiction.