Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Procrastinhater]

You know if you look at the Gender Cults push and massive astroturfing from above as both greed based due to the revenue it brings in, and as a way to sterilize genetic undesirables, its almost genius, in sociopathically cynical way.
If you're a eugenicist who wants to sterilize the mentally ill and other "genetic undesirable" traits, they've hit on a way that the very people they are wanting to sterililize will not only gladly give themselves up to be sterilized, but will actively fight for the privilege and against anyone who is trying to stop it. I've got to say, if you look at it through a lense of cold hard logic, its really quite brilliant.
Ive often thought the only upside to the Gender Cult is it prevents these sick fucks from breeding, but if you take that next step and consider that could be the purpose (that and money, everything comes back to money in someway) it starts to make sense why the thing has been astroturfed so hard from above the way it has.

 

[Jacques1194]

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idk how people on this forum feel about Blaire White, but this genuinely caused a lightbulb moment with me. I don't know how I never figured this out. Once you see it it's so obvious that retarded pronouns that constantly change aren't meant to be understood. They're landmines that are meant to be stepped on. Yet another point in the "genderspecials are bullies larping as victims" column.

Blaire isn't wrong here.Honestly, it was a stupid move of the trans community to not gate keep the special snowflakes that dont have gender dysphoria, and claim a non male or female identity.Like i seriously dont understand how anyone can take non binary, or gender fluid seriously if most of the people who identify as those types of genders are either autistic teens or narcissistic people who want to feel special.Even this one TIFs i know online thinks neopronouns and neogenders are weird.

 

[AMHOLIO]

A pooner who documented her transition like Dylan Mulvaney wouldn't get anywhere near as famous. If there was an all-pooner version of the Tranch, the media would totally ignore it. Pooners can't escape the misogyny even in their own movement, which is why many of them trooned out to begin with.

That's the thing though, I think trans men have "passing privilge" compared to trans women: trans women are freakshows because from start to finish it's hard to hide masculine characteristics. Trans women are popular entertainment BECAUSE they look so funny and trigger the carnival shouter effect. They're also more of a category of porn so they're seen as exotic when IRL.

Meanwhile, trans men transitioned to men... only to be ignored since becoming a man is basically privilege death in SJW circles. Trans womaning is killing a man and reviving a woman, or even better, a lesbian! Trans men-ing is becoming the enemy: a cis dude. Booooor-innnnng. Lose 50 privilege points, no bobs no opinion. In the SJW world, they're lower class. In normal society, not everyone thinks that the manlet they work with is actually a woman unless they're familiar with troonism. You have male expectations and get no special treatment like the trans fems (because they're so fucking weird).

And enbies are just though of as walking mentally ill people if they dress like it. Many passive online enbies tend to be too shy to actually stand up and be called "they/them" and seen as gender neutral, and the ones who do are batshit.

think there's a more insidious reason why the mental health industry will so happily give recommendations for autistic men to start hormones and transition

Mental health industry is an industry first and formost. All the bigwigs want is your money.

Pharmacompanies get in trouble when they go and create addicts. They want people buying a product consistently so sales go up and numbers go brrr in their banks. They care that the end product is seen as good and that the FDA doesn't persecute them because legal issues and lawsuits are death, but the rest they don't give a shit.

Enter: trans people. Trans people treat their medication like an emotional crutch, an addiction without addicting ingredients, and they NEED it to live like diabetics do (not really, but it is how they are portrayed). The purchasing of a life saving drug in the trans mind is enough to worship it, like making jewelry out of bottles and molecules of t/estro/spiro/etc. It's a consumer base filled with people more susceptible to consuming and fear of missing out too: autism and anxiety. The business end of pharma loves a customer base that is stable and growing, that will continue to come back to a product with their money over and over again. Pharma companies cater to trans well.

On the therapy side of things, therapy is made of therapist and doctors with compassion who see you guys as gay part 2. They're helping to troon people out because they think it's morally right, and it would hurt badly for any doctor to think that their actions harmed a patient under their care. So they continue to make patients happy and the patient may or may not continue to see them further for other problems. I mean it: there's many trans people who go one to three times just for hormone access, then leave. The therapists and doctors can't do much for their patients if they don't come to the office, and they can't force people to stay and work on other issues unless asked.

Remember, there's a lot of trans people who went the informed consent model or doctor shopped until they found the right one. There are therapist and doctors who actively say "no, you don't need hormones" or try to get the patient to pursue other options first, and then there's plenty of patients who ragequit and go elsewhere/DIY.

Tl;dr: your therapist might have snuck some vegtables (autism therapy) into your dinner (trans therapy) while you were there, but I think the main purpose was attempting to help gay 2.0 and be on the right side of history and help. Meanwhile, big suits crunching business numbers in some building don't care if the product is made by dying Vietnamese orphans as long as the customer buys it. The scientist who developed the drug usually give some shits about the patient quality of life but not the dudes in the accounting building who help the business managment heads make number go up (and of course the business only cares about number go up and no FDA or lawsuit holding number down).

Could they be trying to keep us away from people who share our interest?

There's tons of trans women in tech. If they're trying, they're failing hard. Tech kiwis will attest to this.

 

[TruffleSpark]

Does anyone else remember the weird period where the incels at 4chan and the femcels at tumblr started shipping their websites?

Because, idk, I think this came true. 4chan edgelordness and tumblr wokescolding combined to become the modern troon movement.

spoiler for gross sperging about 4chan

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When I used to lurk /b/ they'd have these really gross porn threads that in hindsight I am absolutely convinced were trans grooming threads. People know about "sissy hypno", or Bailey Jay and the "are traps gay" debate. But there were also these threads titled stuff like "gifs that make you wish you were the girl" and it would be the the most degrading porn clips from sites like Facial Abuse. As well as these sissification threads that would be full of art of men being transformed into feminine rape slaves against their will. It's kind of gross to think about how so many of the current crop of AGP TiMs got their ideas of what being a women is supposed to be from threads like that. The official ideology is that being trans is innate, but I have to wonder how many TiMs would be normal functional members of society with no desire to transition if they had never seen that shit

And all the current pro trans talking points were workshopped on tumblr in the first half of the 2010s before they were rolled out to the general public, incidentally the most popular blog behind a lot of these talking points was called idislikecispeople and it was actually run by a cis woman. It's weird to think that so many talking points that are currently being wielded by powerful people were invented by bored teenage girls with poor social skills.

I have said before that it is actually impressive how good of a job they have done at controlling the online narrative. And given that they came up in the twin crucibles of late 2000s to mid 2010s 4chan and tumblr that actually makes sense. All the normal people who are trying to fight them online started 3 laps back because while these losers were refining their online communication skills normal people were living their lives. In ages past the sort of people who used sites like 4chan and tumblr would have been the last people in the world anyone with any sense would listen to. But in an age where so much of politics and culture starts online being a community of terminally online autists actually gives you a lot of power.

 

[AMHOLIO]

It's weird to think that so many talking points that are currently being wielded by powerful people were invented by bored teenage girls with poor social skills.

If you grew up with tumblr you're used to it. I'm sure it's not the only dumb thing they co-opted.

but I have to wonder how many TiMs would be normal functional members of society with no desire to transition if they had never seen that shit

Maybe no desire to transition, but harder to say on normal functioning members of society: you're talking about 4channers who sought out extreme porn likely because they were shut ins with too much time on their hands. Hopefully some would be, but it's not like everyone on 4chan has any hope of being saved, or choosing to participate in society, period.

All the normal people who are trying to fight them online started 3 laps back because while these losers were refining their online communication skills normal people were living their lives.

That's a great way to put it. "While you went outside, I studied the online blade..."

 

[BlaireWhitesBottom2]

Thanks 4 making this thread. As someone who was involved in the trans community for a long time this stuff weighs on my mind a lot.

I think the thing that turned me off of the ideology for good was the realisation that these people follow a different set of rules to everyone else. The core difference between troons and actual minority groups is that transgender is something you voluntarily BECOME, rather than something you naturally ARE. For example, gay people are exclusively attracted to the same sex. This is an easily observable fact. Troons have no equivalent to this - at best they can only describe a nebulous feeling of "dysphoria" which could just as easily be caused by a whole host of mental illnesses (depression, BDD, etc). This makes it unfeasible to enforce any sort of restriction on who is and isn't trans; since it's an impossible-to-disprove mental construct, anyone who claims to be transgender has no more or less reason to be considered as such than anyone else.

It's impossible for a "true" trans person to exist because troonism is, by its very nature, impossible to define. It's a specially protected group which is open to anyone. This is how the movement spreads - by promising a sense of belonging to those alienated by modern society, a sense of identity to insecure young people, an easy way for narcissists to protect their ego, and a space for the truly depraved to realise their sick fetishes, all the while being congratulated for their "strength" and "bravery" by people who should really know better. It turns people into useful idiots who care more about their imaginary culture war/fantasy world than the very real problems we as a society face.

My question is: how did we get here? It honestly feels like the sane people have been confined to the hidden corners of the internet while this ideology is allowed to spread unchecked.

I'd respect em more if they looked like Yasmin Lee.. but they often come out looking more like Bruce Lee!

 

[TruffleSpark]

My question is: how did we get here? It honestly feels like the sane people have been confined to the hidden corners of the internet while this ideology is allowed to spread unchecked.

It feels like result of liberal tolerance run amok. Society has come a long way in accepting people who don't really fit into the mold. But people have just learned to use the good faith toward those that are different to exploit the empathy and kindness of others. Despite what TRAs would have you believe most people are generally kind hearted and accepting of those that are different to them. My problem with troons isn't their existence it's the way they use their victim status to bulldoze their way over other people's boundaries. Even when those boundaries would be understood as perfectly reasonable for a cis person of that gender. Seriously, do you think Lia Thomas would have gotten away with blatantly sexually harassing all his teammates if he had been a cis lesbian instead of a trans woman? I sure as shit wouldn't allow a gay man to treat me the way he treated those girls. But once you're trans there's this expectation that your self actualisation is more important than other people's boundaries. I think part of their obsession with feeling like they are being oppressed is actually their desire to oppress others being projected onto the outside world.

I think the thing that turned me off of the ideology for good was the realisation that these people follow a different set of rules to everyone else. The core difference between troons and actual minority groups is that transgender is something you voluntarily BECOME, rather than something you naturally ARE. For example, gay people are exclusively attracted to the same sex. This is an easily observable fact. Troons have no equivalent to this - at best they can only describe a nebulous feeling of "dysphoria" which could just as easily be caused by a whole host of mental illnesses (depression, BDD, etc). This makes it unfeasible to enforce any sort of restriction on who is and isn't trans; since it's an impossible-to-disprove mental construct, anyone who claims to be transgender has no more or less reason to be considered as such than anyone else.

If things get too rough they can always girlmode or boymode out of things. That ability to opt out of oppression is something no other group gets. Even gays aren't really opting out of oppression if they choose not to pursue same sex relationships because not being able to do that is itself a form of oppression. But for the majority of troons I doubt they would have any problem living as their assigned gender at birth if they needed to. I'm not denying that dysphoria exists, but for most trans people it probably could get treated without the need for transition.

The fact that they've done everything they can to bully the healthcare system into fast tracking transition rather than providing options to help people deal with dysphoria to me is proof that they know they can treat their dysphoria and actively don't want to. It's one thing to say "I'm free to be myself, and I can transition rather than treat my dysphoria if I want to", but they don't even seem to want the option to treat dysphoria to be avaliable even to people who aren't them. In their eyes every dysphoric is an egg to be cracked. And if they have a moral responsibility to get that person to troon out.

If I were to steelman them I would say that maybe they just don't think that treatment works as well as transition. But the fact that trans people were so few in number before it become a protected class who you can't sin against shows me that for the vast majority of people with dysphoria are able to manage it just fine. Right now they're just choosing not to. They think that not encouraging transition is something like forceful conversion of a religious minority. But given that they also insist that being trans is innate quality that makes no sense to me. By their own logic (to the extent that they have an internally consistent logic) if you just are trans, then a person who successfully treats their dysphoria is still trans. They're just a trans person who managed to deal with it without making it societies problem.

Sorry for the spergy comparison but I'm reminded of the song Common People by Pulp:

But still you'll never get it right
'Cause when you're laid in bed at night
Watching roaches climb the wall
If you called your dad he could stop it all, yeah

The song is about a woman from a rich family who decides to go live like a poor person and date a poor person. And sure, she might experience the same frustration and challenges as a regular poor person. She might still be suffering. But the fact that she could opt out of that at a moments notice means that she will never experience that suffering in the same way that someone who has no choice but to be poor will.

That doesn't necessarily mean that trans people can't suffer in their own way. The high suicide right is proof that a lot of them are fundamentally unhappy people. But their suffering is different to the suffering of the people's whose identities they co-opt. Quite frankly I think for a lot of them that suffering is because they have comorbid mental illnesses and trooning out is their excuse to not have to deal with them. If you're mentally ill that's a problem society expects you to deal with. And if your mental illness is so severe that society has to step in for your own self protection then the trade off is that you lose a certain amount of personal autonomy in the process. But if you're mentally ill and you troon out suddenly the onus is on the rest of the world to fit itself around you. Rather than on you to fit into the world around you.

I'll add the caveat that when I talk about troons I'm not talking about transmedicalists. But the fact that transmedicalists are treated like traitors by the mainstream trans community supports my point imo. They know they are right that there should be gatekeeping about who gets to be trans because they know that most troons don't actually need to be trans. They just don't give a shit.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Not talking about CEOs or celebrities, but it's kind of a prisoner's dilemma, being truthful about your feelings on troons in the workplace.

Think of frontline grunts in a pink-collar job. Some of HR has "she/her" in their emails. Some coworkers have the progressive pride pin on their badges, and some of them are aware that the trans patient is just a cluster-B patient with a new cudgel to beat us with. Some of those overlap.

It's not like a doctor, who can hang out their shingle on their own if they're let go from a hospital or practice. If you're smaller fry, someone who needs a license and an employer, all it takes is someone to notice (and care about pursuing) your apostasy and you're screwed. True, it's more likely to happen if you're the kind of person to run a social media channel in scrubs, but it's a threat: everyone knows the corporation would cut them loose if it's expedient and the union won't back an icky transphobe. Troons have all day, every day; if someone gins up a complaint and it goes viral, you're gone. Transphobia is as easy to claim as being transgender; it's not like racism, which can still be lied about but at least everyone has nearly the same definition.

I assume it's like this in most places with public-facing employees and a corporation above them.

 

[TruffleSpark]

It's not like a doctor, who can hang out their shingle on their own if they're let go from a hospital or practice. If you're smaller fry, someone who needs a license and an employer, all it takes is someone to notice (and care about pursuing) your apostasy and you're screwed. True, it's more likely to happen if you're the kind of person to run a social media channel in scrubs, but it's a threat: everyone knows the corporation would cut them loose if it's expedient and the union won't back an icky transphobe. Troons have all day, every day; if someone gins up a complaint and it goes viral, you're gone. Transphobia is as easy to claim as being transgender; it's not like racism, which can still be lied about but at least everyone has nearly the same definition.

I think this is a big reason the corporate world has encouraged troonery. They make it so easy to find a reason to fire somebody. They are like human tripmines, it's so easy to accidentally set them off. Just having them around is enough to put the fear of management into the heart of the workers. And ironically so many of the current troon wave claim to be socialists/communists. Though considering they often end up acting as very gullible volunteer Stasi helping management enforce goodthink on everyone I guess that's not completely inappropriate.

 

[Dylan]

it's not like racism, which can still be lied about but at least everyone has nearly the same definition.

Have you been living under a rock for the past 15 years??? It means to lefties what ever it means at a given moment, this is the same with everything they say.

 

[Baraadmirer]

Anyone have any theories as to the inner workings of trans people picking new names? There are some that are pretty lazy and go for the opposite-gender variant of their name (e.g., Chris → Christine), while others pick names that don't resemble the old one (e.g., Daniel → Maria). One of the troons I know has gone through names like two times already, though he was in some pretty messed up (abusive) relationships.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Anyone have any theories as to the inner workings of trans people picking new names?

Some low-drama trans people have said they asked their parents what name was picked out in case they were born the other sex. Daniel's mom says if he had been born a girl he'd have been named Maria, so that's what Daniel goes with, to honor his parents.

There seem to be a decent amount of anime and other pop culture names, though. I wonder if that's a sign of being more terminally online and having less realistic expectations.

Pooners seem more prone to picking popular current baby names (not male baby names from their own year of birth). My theory: pooners are more likely to interact with a pregnant sister or cousin who's spitballing baby names, and they run across ones they like for themselves.

A lot of transgender people want to tell you all about how they picked their new name, and what it means. This seems to be MtFs, usually the ones who are more "witchy" or just autistic, and less slutty.

 

[Baraadmirer]

There seem to be a decent amount of anime and other pop culture names, though. I wonder if that's a sign of being more terminally online and having less realistic expectations.

Yeah, these ones sound like hardcore weeaboos. Doesn't seem there are as many of them lurking around the interwebs trying to speak to the Japanese ladies in broken Japanese, now that I think about it.

 

[SHOT TRASHED]

Anyone have any theories as to the inner workings of trans people picking new names? There are some that are pretty lazy and go for the opposite-gender variant of their name (e.g., Chris → Christine), while others pick names that don't resemble the old one (e.g., Daniel → Maria). One of the troons I know has gone through names like two times already, though he was in some pretty messed up (abusive) relationships.

Current running theory I've got is that it equates to how deep they've sunk into the AGP.

The ones you described sound like generic brand troons. I'd say those ones are at the tip of the iceberg of troonery. The lazy type equates to "I'm me but I'm a girl I guess" . They don't think about it much and move on.
If they want a completely new name it's a little deeper into the AGP. They're the ones just shopping around for names that sound pretty in their head during their fantasies.

As for Pooners I can't say I have much experience, and Aunt Carol already mentioned the terminally online type, so I won't really cover them. The tl;dr is that they're just further down the AGP hole. But they're like a branching path of autism more or less.

As for where things get weirder, it's maybe gonna sound simplistic / "no duh" but in my experience it seems to just tie to whatever specific depiction they want to paint of themselves.
Example: Do you have a troon that's obsessed with pagan shit / Do they really hate catholicism? Are they really into the idea of being a witch or something or have some fictional representation of themselves that's a witch? Odds are they're going to pick a name that sounds kind of like a witch but also sounds "pretty" enough to not just be a fucking joke (disclaimer: This is based on troon judgement. Name may likely sound like a fucking joke)

Seen this happen with various different troons and it was all just kind of connected to whatever fantasy was there to augment their AGP. Knew one that was obsessed with the idea of being Russian nobility in the 1800s- oh shit they chose Natasha as a new name who could've possibly seen that coming. These are the kind that Aunt Carol mentioned who would just love to tell you how they picked their new name. Btw you will get the most made up crock of shit ever when this happens. If it's tied to a fantasy, you're going to hear some dumb shit about how the name just means so much to them or something like that.

It's just what I've seen in my experience, but it's thus far held up pretty consistently.

 

[Inside your walls]

Since the topic of FtMs have been brought, I had this thought.
I noticed that in FtM circles, especially in Twitter and Tumblr, that despite FtMs larping
as men, most of them ironically still complain and criticize ""cis"" men (aka normal dudes they try to present themselves as).

While their posts tends to be 99% of the time shitting on cis men in the same fashion
that you'd see radfems shit on them, most of these post also tend to be fixated on emotional/mental aspects of men
(i.e. either men being brutes that do not emote enough or men only emoting through rage/other exaggerated negative feelings), with usually these types of
ending on a note how somehow because of how different FtMs are in that sense, they are superior when it comes emotions
and aren't restricted to emotions like cis men.

This got me thinking, you know how in case of autogynephilic MtFs their whole
goal is to be better than women, and usually they focus on being better than them
in sexual aspects and appearance wise? I believe FtMs have a same goal, to be better than men,
but their focus is more on emotional aspects, making them counterparts to MtFs. They believe
they are what men should be. Not restricted by emotions and open with them.

This ties in my next point, lots of people notice when a FtM transitions,
it is usually because of some trauma (99% of the time being sexual abuse), fearing
womanhood/having a horrid time navigating puberty or they're simply a coomer fujoshi.

But I also believe there's another reason why FtM transition and it has to do again with
the theme being "better" than biological men and them being counterparts to MtFs.

MtFs usually troon to become their own gfs, their idea of a girlfriend isn't a
realistic woman but a twisted one from various medias hence why they always
aim to be an exaggerated archetype such as "goth mommy" or "NEET nerdy girl where undesirable traits are turned into positives",
when they can't find that exaggeration IRL they aim to become one.

FtMs also function this way but their focus is an emotional one instead
of a sexual in case of MtFs.

They dream of beautiful men, who look like
Adonis, have all the virtues they see in a man (such as being openly emotional, supporting of them and their personal things, caring, example of a positive masculinity), imagine this person interacting with them, treating with kindness but they feel irl they won't be able to find that kind of man, because already they have low view of men, so they chose to become their own dream bf.

Basically MTFs are "I'd fuck me" and FTMs are "I'd treat myself good".

 

[Jacques1194]

I do have a question.If sex and gender are different, why is gender identity more important than a person's biological sex?If i saw a woman who claims to be non binary then i'd always refer to her as a female/woman because that's who she is.I wouldn't care about whatever the fuck she identifies as.Neither would anyone in the real world.In fact, non binary becomes even more meaningless when TRAs try to claim that they dont promote stereotypes when they say that real women can still have blue haired buzz cuts and still identify as women.At that point what is non binary and why should anyone care?

 

[FATTESTCUNT 2.0]

At that point what is non binary and why should anyone care?

What is non-binary anyway? It's fucking gibberish.

It's impossible to have "100% masculine" and "100% feminine" as two ends of some sliding scale, because nobody would ever be at those extremes, therefore we're all non-binary.

Also, again, it's based on binary sex stereotypes and how those sexes "should" act in a given society, but that's all bullshit too. If you're a particularly emotional guy who cries easily, or you're a strong female leader who takes no shit from anyone, it doesn't make you "non-binary" just because the way you are doesn't align with some dickhead's old-fashioned view of how men and women should be.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Anyone have any theories as to the inner workings of trans people picking new names? There are some that are pretty lazy and go for the opposite-gender variant of their name (e.g., Chris → Christine), while others pick names that don't resemble the old one (e.g., Daniel → Maria). One of the troons I know has gone through names like two times already, though he was in some pretty messed up (abusive) relationships.

What is one of the first things people learn about you aside from your appearance? Your name. Names are tied to identity, and meeting a woman named "Diamond" gives off a different impression than naming a woman named "Hannah".

But the process od picking a name for trans people isn't thinking of what fits into society or honors traditions for the most part, it's "What will my new username be?" or "What will my new RP/DnD/Original Character identity be?"

He's not Brandon, the guy who sharted in high school and never lived down the embarrassment since, he's Sophie, sweet cute woman who is both wise and beautiful (AND NEVER SHARTED). He's not Paul, the incel who couldn't get laid or speak up for himself, she's Lilith, the badass goth gf who appreciates all women and races and is queer radical as fuck, a powerful mysterious woman making up for past sjw crimes in name only and sounding "badass in the process (but the incel never leaves, it is merely covered up). He's not John the weeb, she's Miku the mommy neko dom who will make you feel all better.

She isn't Erin, the girl who never fit in, she's Liam, the boy of her dreams. She isn't Madison who experienced terrible trauma, he's Noah, a man who's always been a strong normal person who blends in yet is powerful when provoked. She isn't boring Maria, he's Peter, her favorite Marvel superhero twink she's obsessed with.

Some go super far, autistically naming themselves shit like "Blue" or nonsensical nonbianary name you'd hear on a dog because they're socially and bodily disconnected. They might want to be seen as concepts, objects, or animals they love and relate to more than normal people. Some are just uncreative, are ok with their past life, don't want the hassle of completely changing names, or somehow actually want to appear normal, so it's John to Joan or Michelle to Michael. Or what their parents would have named them. You'll see some of these in more successful fields where the trooning is a midlife crisis or the person had a preestablished career.

Whatever the case, the idea is to get rid of the old person and become the new one. Names are bigger parts in identity we don't usually think about since we're so used to and usually accept our own, never thinking the connections we made or our impression due to not having to choose a new identity. Trans people are always anxiously thinking about how others perceive them and who THEY are. Not calling someone by their new name isn't just inconvenient, it's "This person does not respect me", "This person is bringing up my awful/boring past", "My new identity isn't successful", and so on.

When troons hop between names, it can be as little as incovience (Elizabeth is too long, going to Mia), to not feeling the name anymore, to shaking off old feelings associated with that name (Taylor was my embarrassing early transition associated with breaking up, call me Avery now). Or it's "I burned all my social media bridges and must go from Selina to Cassandra/Cassie to hide on twitter and discord." It's switching usernames on social media, but for real life.

If sex and gender are different, why is gender identity more important than a person's biological sex?

At that point what is non binary and why should anyone care?

It's not about what makes sense, it's about respecting their feelings. Misgendering them isn't just a sign of not believing in the concept of gender sex changing, it's throwing down the gauntlet to them by saying you have no respect for their person since that is their whole identity. You can poke and prod people who talk about nonbinariness, but what usually comes out is respecting how someone feels and identifies as well as some metaphysical or philosophical concept of gender/sex and identity being conflated. They just want external validation and respect, shut up, stop reminding them they're worthless by calling them a gender they think is weal/gross/uncool.

There's massive arguments and internal conflict in the trans domain on sex and gender because different trans people get different benefits from it. Basic male to feminine and female to masculine trans people are more likely to say that hormones and surgery really change the body so they get taken serious sexually. They're BIOwomen even if the XY was their original one, their hormones have feminized them so much shut the fuck up. Nonbinaries and genderfluids are more likely to say that gender and or sex is made up so they can present however they want with their pronouns and we need to dismantle the cisytem for keeping everyone down. Some trans people hold both opinions at once and only come into conflict when someone challenges them or uses the rules of one against the other. Some staunchly stick to one and are labeled as traitorous bastards by the other for invalidating them (or getting the classic male to female/female to male surgeries kicked off insurance since gender is just a concept). And others are opportunist clinging to whatever excuse is more valid at that moment to get what they want.

The main idea is that these two conflict but no one talks about it since everyone wants to fit in and play pretend happy. They want to grow closer to each other by fighting transphobes, not to be ditched by their new friends in the trans community. The philosophy is different because they either hang out in different circles or never stop to talk about it since they all think they're totally in agreement already. Infighting is much easier to achieve in the trans community with the right words and push due to this.

 

[Mayor Cody Travers]

For those who have the misfortune to know troons, have any of them commented on feeling or recognizing like support is dropping, or heaven forbid, that a lot of bad people have become part of or sprung from their group?

I'm genuinely and legitimately curious.

 

[GettrGriftr]

[Pooners are] all autistic dumbfucks, they're very aware of that (they even admit it sometimes) and no one in the world takes them seriously, so you can't even get mad at them.

In my limited experience with pooners, they almost all will  claim to be on the autistic spectrum (whether that's been professionally diagnosed or not), in part because autism is way more prevalent in boys, thus feeding into their delusion, and as a sort of a "get out of jail free card" to deflect any criticism of their horrible life choices onto "muh neurodiversity."