Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Mayor Cody Travers]

As you noted, a lot have tranny or pooner kids now. I know one couple in particular who are very active in the local SJW activist scene, and are in their mid 60s. They had a son and daughter. Now they have a "daughter" and a non-binary child who changed her name to an herb.

Makes me wonder how likely it is they regret what they allowed, but they're too deep in now to suffer loss of their kids - especially at the start of their twilight years.

 

[The Judean People's Front]

Makes me wonder how likely it is they regret what they allowed, but they're too deep in now to suffer loss of their kids - especially at the start of their twilight years.

Outwardly they act like it's simply wonderful. I should note that the son has been trooned out since he was like 3 or 4. They get major asspats for encouraging his transition and stuff but even before I peaked it always seemed weird to me. Especially because he was adopted and so like they picked a boy who they then turned into a girl a few years later. Weird shit.

I did kinda always wonder (as did many others, I've come to find out) if they were both gay and bearding for each other either consciously or subconsciously. Like, maybe them being self-hating about their own GNC behavior made them super rigid about it with their kids, so when the son did "girly" things it was OBVIOUSLY because he's actually a girl. Not just a future gay kid.

 

[LimeRikki]

Occasionally when the topic of transpeople and detrans people come up IRL, a common sentiment is that these detransitioner kids were never trans to begin with.

On this, I agree with TRAs. Those children were never trans. So why were they giving access to cross sex hormones, puberty blockers, and surgery?

Why wasn't there's some kind of screening or gatekeeping to filter out kids who were suffering from other mental health issues?

Weird, how labeling everything as bigoted and transphobic has massively exacerbated the problem and prevented people from (easily) enacting common sense solutions.

 

[Jacques1194]

The South Park thing is particularly hilarious, because in The Stick Of Truth (good game, and I'm not a big gamer at all - but I am a South Park simp to an extent) Cartman SAYS to Kenny something like "Ok, Kenny, we ALL want to play the princess sometimes, but. . . " because THAT is a totally normal thing for kids to do. Girls "play" boy roles all the time when doing make-believe, but suddenly the boy does it and it's because he's a teeny tranny.

Do they say Wendy is a boy because she dresses up like a boy to be part of the boy band "Fingerbang"? Ugh, they probably do.

And fuck off from my boy, Butters, tranny weirdos. He's just a little bi-curious.

Yeah their excuse is that they're just having fun making LGBT headcanons, but tbh head canons about how every character is gay or trans is going down the same path as what they think straight pairings are.. "boring", and "uncool".Also they do actually insist Wendy is genderfluid because in the game FBW her superhero persona is genderfluid.Though these same people ignore how butters bio says he's a cis straight boy.Funny how they cherry pick what is and what isn't valid.

On this, I agree with TRAs. Those children were never trans. So why were they giving access to cross sex hormones, puberty blockers, and surgery?

Why wasn't there's some kind of screening or gatekeeping to filter out kids who were suffering from other mental health issues?

Because they're desperate to increase their numbers that they'll take any socially awkward kid or someone who's uncomfortable going through puberty as proof they're trans. and when said kid detrans they throw them under the bus by saying something like "You should of thought harder about it." This brings up a story i want to say here to show how hypocritical TIPs are.I was observing this one conversation on this discord i'm a part of, and the topic was talking about TikTok kids pretending to have psychological disorders like autism, schizophrenia, and tourettes.(They even brought up this big non binary TikToker who got caught faking it.)They brought how its sad how far people will go to pretend to have something they don't actually have for attention.Mind you one of the people saying this was this one TIM(He doesn't identify as a woman, but i think claims to be non binary.I honestly think he's a confused gay man.), and i knew if i said the same thing about people pretending to be trans he would go berserk.What gives here?He accepts people like the one Tiktoker would lie about having autism or tourettes, but he's convinced no one (including the same girl who identifies as non binary) would lie about having a trans identity?You would seriously think these people would want to purge the trans trenders, but like i said above they're that desperate to increase their numbers that they dont care if someone is really lying.

 

[AMHOLIO]

berserk.What gives here?He accepts people like the one Tiktoker would lie about having autism or tourettes, but he's convinced no one (including the same girl who identifies as non binary) would lie about having a trans identity?

For those who aren't aiming to fool anyone but themselves, trans people are terrified that they too, are actually faking it. The admitting you were wrong after mking major changes and cutting ties with people is devistating to people with low self confidence as is. Thinking that no one fakes it is a false sense of security that they're true and honest themselves, they don't have to rumage around the deepest corners of their brain to face thoughts they shoved away about themselves.

There's also another fallacy: why would anyone become trans if they're one of the most persecuted minorities in the world? While not true from our side, if you bought into it you can end up thinking that only TRUE AND HONEST people would troon. It's on the black and white side of thinking, something people with mental illnesses tend to fall into and thus troons as well.

 

[Dr George Whitebread]

Despite only making up 14% of the tranny population, why are 99% of non-binary folx middle class white women in their teens or mid 20's?

 

[SIMIΔN]

There's also another fallacy: why would anyone become trans if they're one of the most persecuted minorities in the world

They have been convinced that they've always been a girl trapped in the eggshell of a male's body.

They are in denial that it is a choice.

 

[Spangled Drongo]

On this, I agree with TRAs. Those children were never trans. So why were they giving access to cross sex hormones, puberty blockers, and surgery?

These days I err towards the side that says nobody is really "trans", while the actual mental disorder of gender dysphoria has been shown to exist, it's the way it's been turned into a social category in order to normalise it that's all bullshit. Sure, people can dress in whatever clothes they like, change their names etc., but cutting off body parts and introducing unnatural amounts of the opposite sex's hormones isn't the answer IMO. The comparison has been made before, but would it be a good idea to give an anorexia patient weight loss surgery and tell them their desire to be skeletally thin is valid and it's society that's wrong for not accepting them?

So I find the "as long as they're legal adults" argument kind of weak. It's not like the moment someone turns 18, or whatever the legal age is where they live, that they're suddenly mature and responsible enough to truly know the risks of such pointless and honestly dangerous medical procedures. It's not the same as getting a piercing or tattoo - piercings can be taken out, even tattoos can be lasered off, but a stinkditch can't be turned back into a dick, a deepened voice from taking testosterone won't ever go back to how it used to be. Even the supposedly "based" ones who trooned as adults and oppose doing it to kids will make the exact same statements as the TRAs they claim to be against - "my true self" and so on.

I think it was Helen Joyce who said "transition" shouldn't even be an option for these people, and I'm inclined to agree. By all means, defy the stereotypes of your biological sex, be a man in a dress or a butch woman with a shaved head, but don't turn yourself into a crude mockery of the opposite one (or some bullshit you invented), and don't force people to accept you when they might not believe in your claimed identity.

Despite only making up 14% of the tranny population, why are 99% of non-binary folx middle class white women in their teens or mid 20's?

I've met only one biological male claiming to be "non binary", which in his case seems to simply mean dyeing his hair neon colours and wearing makeup and jewellery, using they/them pronouns and changing his name from an unmistakably masculine one to a name that could go either way but still reads more male. As an example, imagine his original name was John but he now calls himself Sam. I thought he was very flamboyantly gay at first but nope, he likes girls, he's just autistic and indoctrinated into far-left ideology from his university studies. Pretty sure he was studying something in the humanities so no real surprises there.

 

[Maginot]

I thought he was very flamboyantly gay at first but nope, he likes girls, he's just autistic and indoctrinated into far-left ideology from his university studies. Pretty sure he was studying something in the humanities so no real surprises there.

Alt-straight

 

[countrybumpkin]

I'm glad that some kids are fighting this nonsense.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I'm glad that some kids are fighting this nonsense.

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The kids are alright.

 

[behavioral swamp thang]

The other day I woke up, did the social media rounds, saw all these men in dresses with crazy hair. "Damn, everyone trans now" I thought to myself. Then I realized it was Halloween lol

 

[Pedophobe]

Every troon wears women's glasses and I feel like that's 90% of what makes them think they "pass". It's their most obviously feminine feature by far.

 

[Rick The Stick]

I'm glad that some kids are fighting this nonsense.

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Ain't that the county where a troon raped a girl in the bathroom only to be quietly moved to a different school, and do it again?

 

[SIMIΔN]

one biological male claiming to be "non binary",

It's probably the safest way for a man to win oppression points. Talking about who you fuck is still a no no in most offices, but there are no rules against dressing weirdly.

And don't just say 'autism'.

Autism, pure hyper male brain autism.
Being always online and a tendency for solutions thinking doesn't hurt either.

 

[TruffleSpark]

more stuff I stole from tumblr:

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gender and theism are very similar.
I say I don't believe in any "God" and theists say, "Oh, so you worship the devil?" No, you're still thinking of it in a theist context. I literally do not believe in any of it. But they cannot imagine a world without this made-up dichotomy, just like people obsessed with gender.
I'll say I don't believe in gender ideology, AKA the idea that the socially enforced roles assigned to each sex are innate, and they'll say, "Oh, so you think that anyone with a vulva should be forced to be a woman (which in their mind means the feminine gender role) and anyone with a penis should be forced to be a man (again, they mean the masculine gender role)." Like, no! Your perception of the world has been hijacked by gender roles! Which sadly is inevitable bc we live in a world so thoroughly drowned in gender. They don't understand that I don't fucking believe in any of this!! They literally are so deep in gender koolaid bc of our extremely gendered world that they cannot conceive of a reality outside of it. They see that in our society humans with vulvas are forced to be feminine, docile, etc, and males to be dominant, strong, etc, but they still see these roles as intrinsically linked to sex, so they think the solution is changing their sex to fit what gender role they like best. So when I say that this is wrong, they think I must be a conservative who thinks that people should be forced to conform to their "assigned gender", bc in their mind there's no way to escape your forced gender role other than attempting to change your sex. There shouldn't be any genders assigned to anyone!!! Your sex is a neutral biological reality that has nothing to do with your personality and behavior outside of gendered socialization!!! But they literally cannot conceive of a world without gender!! It's fucking insane!!! How can they not see how fucking crazy it is!!!

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cowardly-bisexual

Jul 18, 2020

one of the major problems with the "everyone is valid! pick whatever label feels best!" mentality is that it literally prioritises feelings of misinformed people over facts, history and material reality

girlbossbunny
Jan 2, 2021

I would argue that the logic of "this factually incorrect thing is actually right because it makes me feel valid and you're evil for not agreeing with me!!!1" is the liberal version of conservatives using their religion to backup their bullshit

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quinntheestallion
Jul 3

I’m so tired of the transfemme struggle of “Nobody sees me as a real girl because I’m literally not”. Like the actual fuck do you expect us to do about that. I can’t believe this Pinnochio ass problem is the sum total of trans struggles.

Like how long are we supposed to pretend like that’s a real problem with any hope of being solved? We’re never gonna be able to mind control everyone on the planet into thinking you’re a literal female. Efforts to force everyone play along in polite company have actually been very successful- what more could possibly be done.

And the audacity to compare “I can’t control people perceiving reality 100% of time” to women’s actual problem of trying to live while female.

Like oh my god, shut the fuck up.

maria-scariotes
Jul 6

They know this and they don't want to solve the problem that can't be solved, they just want to complain to get sympathy and pity out of people to use against them in any situation they need. It's all opression points farming. If they shut up people gonna forget and they can't use the pity others feel for them as advantage

So they have to infinitely remind everyone how much they suffer(a suffering that no one can fix) so they can keep using this

quinntheestallion

Jul 6

Oppression was originally conceptualized as a solvable problem- income inequality can be solved with more income opportunities. Discrimination for jobs and housing can be solved by giving jobs and housing. Trans people have these needs as well and those problems of theirs are solvable. However, validating everyone's identity is not a solvable problem. How do we solve the problem that people see you as your birth sex because that's what you literally, physically are? Your condition of dysphoria means that even you see yourself as your birth sex. Even the most well-passing trans people still know their sex history which they can never forget. We are burning resources and time and energy on an unsolvable problem and doing so at the expense of other material problems. What excess. What luxury. It is obscene. The reality of your sexed body is not a problem that can be solved. When will this madness end.

 

[countrybumpkin]

Ain't that the county where a troon raped a girl in the bathroom only to be quietly moved to a different school, and do it again?

Yup.

 

[LimeRikki]

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Dude seemed like a transvestite more than a tranny. Idk if the difference matters anymore though.

 

[Jacques1194]

I’m so tired of the transfemme struggle of “Nobody sees me as a real girl because I’m literally not”. Like the actual fuck do you expect us to do about that. I can’t believe this Pinnochio ass problem is the sum total of trans struggles.

Like how long are we supposed to pretend like that’s a real problem with any hope of being solved? We’re never gonna be able to mind control everyone on the planet into thinking you’re a literal female. Efforts to force everyone play along in polite company have actually been very successful- what more could possibly be done.

And the audacity to compare “I can’t control people perceiving reality 100% of time” to women’s actual problem of trying to live while female.

Like oh my god, shut the fuck up.

This comment is exactly why i dont see trans ideology as a whole being accepted.Unless the powers that be mind controls everyone to accept "Trans women are women and vice versa." then really nobody(Even their own allies) believes this is real.Literally the best option that the trans movement could of done was simply go "Dont be an ass to people who feel comfortable living life dressing up as the opposite gender, and i'll let women have their own spaces, and let children decide when they're adults."The problem with the trans movement is that we gave them an inch and they took a mile.The movement is now saying its discrimination to not date trans people because they're trans.There was a post on the Anthony Reed thread where he tried to justify a TIM punching a woman's teeth out during a hockey match.Kids getting puberty blockers and surgery when they're too young to understand this.There was a recent post shared on Ovarit about a thread on the subreddit r/GenZ where the comments were divided on trans rights.(Of course the mods had to remove anyone who was against them.)The fact that GenZ(at least on reddit)is divided on trans issues does seem to be eye opening since they're bombarded with this crap.

 

[countrybumpkin]

"Transgender activist who said 'would not matter' if the number of female murders increased if men were allowed to self-identify as women is devising ethics rules for therapists"

The lunatics are running the asylum.