Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[deermeat]

I think I mentioned this before but as I keep seeing more tranny nonsense, I wanna reiterate.
I can't believe the sheer amount of women who simp over trannies or idolize them, not just handmaidens but pooners too. I think they think that these men just appreciate womanhood, and that's comforting to them, but these men do not appreciate anything related to women. It's not about "I love women", it's about complete and other objectification of women- regardless if they identify as trans men or non binary- then trying to "reclaim" female-orientated material as their own so they can feel superior.

They think women have it easier and they've struggled with getting with women their whole life because of their unstable, narcissistic or otherwise autistic personalities.

If they really appreciated women, they wouldn't go out of their way to invent terms like "transmisogyny" and say that scene girls/e girls are "stealing their style" and lying about how they invented that stuff first. They literally appropriate anything women like and then try to act like women are the ones being inspired by them, not the other way around.
They exclude women from their lives entirely aside for any causual sex they can get from them, instead opting to hang around with other TiMs.

They only become interested in female-centric communties if it means they can pretend to be the type of girls who rejected them.
They do not like you. Nor respect you. No one so openly narcisstic like that will ever love and value you, same with anyone caught up in severe addictions. You should embrace the fact that they are losers and that you, being a biological female, are superior. These are your communities, your interests. This culture is yours, not theirs. Yet these women act so insecure, they opt to idolizing worthless junkies who treats them like a costume. Its almost sad sometimes as some of these women, mainly pooners, clearly just struggle with self worth and untreated trauma. Its not always about being a fujo, usually these pooners are the types to date troons and engage in BDSM where they think its okay to let these goblins hurt them, using sex as a coping skill, when its clear all they want is geniue love + support. Something troons and other poons will never provide them,

 

[TruffleSpark]

They do not like you. Nor respect you. No one so openly narcisstic like that will ever love and value you, same with anyone caught up in severe addictions. You should embrace the fact that they are losers and that you, being a biological female, are superior. These are your communities, your interests. This culture is yours, not theirs. Yet these women act so insecure, they opt to idolizing worthless junkies who treats them like a costume. Its almost sad sometimes as some of these women, mainly pooners, clearly just struggle with self worth and untreated trauma. Its not always about being a fujo, usually these pooners are the types to date troons and engage in BDSM where they think its okay to let these goblins hurt them, using sex as a coping skill, when its clear all they want is geniue love + support. Something troons and other poons will never provide them,

Trannies and handmaidens/pooners are playing out an abusive relationship on a societal scale. And the rest of us are being caught up in their bullshit.

 

[Barr2011]

I don't mean to break into you guys conversation, it's just a thought I had for a while.

Do you think Marx would hate on trannies? I think so. He'd look at the whole gender bs as a bourgeise passtime.

Gender ideology goes hand in hand with capitalism. This fools think that they can buy their true selves through hormone and surgeries after all.

Trannies love to identify (pun intended) as communists, when in reality they are far from it, they probably don’t even know what communism is in the first place and how it’s not practicable in the modern society. They would be sent to a gulag if they lived in the Soviet Union lol.

 

[Inco G. Nito]

I think trannies (and honestly LGBT people in general) are simply incapable of not being harmful to children. Just their presence being around children is harmful to their normal and healthy development by establishing a bad precedent to them. By simply walking around publicly engaging in their degeneracy, they are passively grooming children to become partial or supportive of them later on by exposure during a very malleable age. And that's not even including the hazardous and predatory nature of the movement actively pushing their degeneracy onto young teenagers to sow future support and membership by hijacking their sexual development.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I think trannies (and honestly LGBT people in general) are simply incapable of not being harmful to children. Just their presence being around children is harmful to their normal and healthy development by establishing a bad precedent to them. By simply walking around publicly engaging in their degeneracy, they are passively grooming children to become partial or supportive of them later on by exposure during a very malleable age. And that's not even including the hazardous and predatory nature of the movement actively pushing their degeneracy onto young teenagers to sow future support and membership by hijacking their sexual development.

Too many people are afraid to "go this far." It's true. The mere presence of a tranny in an elementary school classroom, in any role or capacity, is damaging to the kids in the class. They should not be subjected to this. They also should not be subjected to gaslighting of the nature "some people have two moms." No. Everyone has a mother. Everyone has a father. Who is in a person's household, doing the childcare, signing legal forms- these are different questions. It is impossible to have more than one mother, in actuality. Only one person gave birth to you. Losing that person is catastrophic for a young child. A good adoptive mother can patch over the wound, but it's always catastrophic. Mothers and fathers are each important and not something you can just swap out like accessories or decorations.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I realized after saying this that it'd probably fit in here too, so I'm posting it here as well.

I think the real reason troons and gendershit is slowly falling out of favor amongst everyone INCLUDING some people that are in the trans hole is because of how aggressive the fucking dogma is. Despite being defended and coddled in the west if they're in high ranking positions/from wealth is I've seen a shift of sorts the last few years from the less vocal people that'd normally support or even be part of this shit otherwise. Been kinda wild to see because they just get stomped down like everyone else. Trannyism has become a cudgel for political or social dissent and they keep getting more and more blatant with that to the point actual trannys are getting caught in the crossfire.

To further go on from this, there's a very "corpo" element to all of this despite the claims of communism/socialism and it's very very blatant the longer you're exposed to troonshit. It's false subversion. People have already pointed it out but the preachers of this troon shit claim to be subverting gender roles but instead are actually enforcing them to nightmare levels. It's a smoke and mirrors terminology game recognizable to pretty much anyone not suffering some form of politics team brain poisoning.

I've seen people troon out but remain mostly the same personality wise more often now than I used to a few years ago, but it's still a small amount. I wonder if it's solely social pressure pushing the tranny behavior and with there no longer really being an "in" to the social politics team clique shit they just either become one of the faceless troon masses only ever brought up for statistics or get pushed away for not moving in lock step with the others. So the few that retain themselves are either jilted or genuinely indoctrinated but more independent? I have no clue, only observing shit from the sidelines more or less here. Can't read minds either, obviously!

 

[Hassou Tobi]

I think trannies (and honestly LGBT people in general) are simply incapable of not being harmful to children. Just their presence being around children is harmful to their normal and healthy development by establishing a bad precedent to them. By simply walking around publicly engaging in their degeneracy, they are passively grooming children to become partial or supportive of them later on by exposure during a very malleable age. And that's not even including the hazardous and predatory nature of the movement actively pushing their degeneracy onto young teenagers to sow future support and membership by hijacking their sexual development.

I think this is undeniably true. Many people have commented on how it’s “drag queen story hour” for small children and not “drag queen story hour for the sick and elderly.” Obviously purposeful. And they’re open about it, too, they just use prettier language like about how their goal is to “teach tolerance and acceptance” i.e. groom children into accepting troons and ignore the reactive gross out/mocking instinct most people have towards them.

 

[The Lawgiver]

ignore the reactive gross out/mocking instinct

Wasn't the gross out/mocking instinct the entire reason drag shit existed before it became tied to social media politics shit? Like the point being gross out humor?

 

[Paper Machete]

Wasn't the gross out/mocking instinct the entire reason drag shit existed before it became tied to social media politics shit? Like the point being gross out humor?

I think it was originally working more on absurdist type of humor and gays having a laugh at themselves for being over the top performers and camp. It was also understood to be an adult thing akin to burlesque and kept to it's own places. At least that's my understanding.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

I think it was originally working more on absurdist type of humor and gays having a laugh at themselves for being over the top performers and camp. It was also understood to be an adult thing akin to burlesque and kept to it's own places. At least that's my understanding.

Eh. It depended on the performer, the show and the audience. There was definitely a strong comedy aspect but how funny they tried to be and details of performance could vary alot. Some liked more realistic silly women clothes, others went to absurd fantasy costumes. Some preferred cleaner humor, others more edgy. Some were more self deprecating, others hateful towards outsiders. So no different from other forms of stand up.

But yeah, it was definitely treated as adults only activity.

 

[Stupid Lisa Garbageface]

Tales of the handmaiden -

I was out to dinner with some rather woke friends the other night. They don't normally discuss political or social topics so it's easy to forget that, but one of them brought up how excited she was to watch the new documentary in which Will Ferrell goes on a road trip with his TIM buddy.

She repeated a joke Ferrell apparently made, "So [now that you've transitioned] do you think you're a worse driver?" Apparently the troon went "...well, yeah." She giggled, as did the other woman we were out with.

In literally any other context these two would've been seeing red at that joke. But a troon goes "tee-hee I can't dwive :3" and it's totally fine.

I hate this I hate this I hate this

 

[The Lawgiver]

In literally any other context these two would've been seeing red at that joke. But a troon goes "tee-hee I can't dwive :3" and it's totally fine.

Watch one single journo rag put out an article about that comment and how it means will ferrel is transphobic and sexist like they did when dave chappele talked about his tranny friend and the switch will flip to calling for ferrel's death on a pike as he's added to the long list of "TERFs" and "right wing extremists". I forgot the minecraft guy Notch was on that list till someone randomly butt into a convo I was having a while back about microsoft's shitty handling of Minecraft going "WELL AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT TRANSPHOBES!!!!!". I literally had to scrapethe back of my mind figuring out what exactly he did before remembering that shit literally happened because of him having a fucking blink and you miss it spat with a troon on twitter and was the reason microsoft started removing his name from everything. They'll never actually point to shit the person said that triggered all this, they'll almost always just go "WELL THEY'RE TRANSPHOBES" and leave it at that, replying to any mention of the person's name with like fucking insane amounts of vitriol. It happens to people both supportive of trannys and critical of them, kind of explainsthe weirdfucking behavior. maybe they think they'll be next if they don't go after random people/show uncritical support? hate how shitty media has this much power over opinion now.

 

[Thursday]

She repeated a joke Ferrell apparently made, "So [now that you've transitioned] do you think you're a worse driver?" Apparently the troon went "...well, yeah." She giggled, as did the other woman we were out with.

The funnier part of this is men are literally statistically worse drivers and responsible for many more crashes. Women are genuinely more attentive drivers, and it's the most manbrained thing in the world to believe women are bad at driving in the first place.

 

[Susanna]

The funnier part of this is men are literally statistically worse drivers and responsible for many more crashes. Women are genuinely more attentive drivers, and it's the most manbrained thing in the world to believe women are bad at driving in the first place.

You just have to ask a man why his insurance is more expensive than his wife's, if men are such good drivers.

 

[LimeRikki]

So, so many shit deals in life are just dealt with. Except being a troon; that shit has to be acted upon, even if you know you won't pass. So many things are "welp, maybe in the next life" except that one. It's such naivety to think life is meant to be exactly how you want it to.

(Cross posting from the detrans stories thread because this comment is perfect for here too.)

100% this. So much of ordinary life, including how someone looks throughout their life and and as they age, is kind of a "suck it up, buttercup", kinda deal.

You can't change it, so you shrug, and move on and in time you'll find it's been ages since you even thought about it.

But not trannies. In troons we reward their ruminations with validation and social currency. "Not everyone gets to look the way they want to shut the fuck up and get over it." is seen as a hate crime instead of a solid dose of reality.

Thank goodness things are changing. I am very much looking forward to the day where announcing you are trans (or gay, tbh) is no longer a form of social currency and earns no clout whatsoever.

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!​

How could it get this far?
We all know that A.I. is pozzed - Grug maybe less so.
But I wasn't aware that even with older models, like the one used here (the text generator),
they were deliberately skewing the weighting so severely, that just adding "gender reassignment" to the prompt "shiro ishi with patient", turns the result into this:

Dr. Shirō Ishii, a gender reassignment specialist with a storied yet controversial past, standing alongside a hopeful patient. Dr. Ishii, dressed in a crisp, white lab coat with his name embroidered in kanji, is in the prime of his career with a stern yet empathetic expression etched on his face. His patient, a young adult with short, wavy hair and a gentle gaze, is dressed in a simple hospital gown, symbolizing their vulnerability and trust in the doctor's expertise. The room is a sterile blend of medical technology and comfort, with a softly lit examination table in the background, hinting at the complex procedures that will soon unfold. A tray of surgical instruments gleams under the overhead lights, reflecting the seriousness of the situation. On the wall, a series of before-and-after photos of Dr. Ishii's successful cases serve as a silent testament to his skill and commitment to his patients. Despite the historical shadow of his involvement in Unit 731, the Japanese biological and chemical warfare research unit, the scene is one of quiet dignity and human connection, as the doctor holds a clipboard, reviewing the patient's file with a focused gaze, while the patient's hand rests lightly on their chest, a symbol of their anticipated transformation. The stark contrast between the doctor's shadowy past and the promise of a brighter future for his patient is palpable, creating a tension that is both intriguing and poignant.

or this:

Dr. Shirō Ishii, a renowned yet controversial gender reassignment specialist, in a solemn moment with a patient. He is dressed in a pristine white lab coat, a symbol of his medical expertise, with a stethoscope draped around his neck. His stern gaze is focused on the patient, who is lying on a hospital bed with a medical gown partially covering their body. The patient's face is obscured by a surgical mask, but their eyes, filled with hope and apprehension, are visible, reflecting the gravity of the situation. The room is dimly lit, with soft shadows dancing on the sterile walls, creating an atmosphere of both professionalism and empathy. The background includes medical charts, a tray of surgical instruments, and a window that allows a sliver of natural light to pierce through the curtains, hinting at the world outside that will soon be confronted with the patient's new reality. The stark contrast between the cold steel of the hospital equipment and the warm, human interaction between doctor and patient underscores the delicate balance of science and emotion inherent in the transformative journey of gender reassignment.

It turns the shorts into fucking apologetics for a war criminal, just because it has been taught gender mutilation is just THAT MUCH of a GOOD for humanity.
Think I'm overreacting? Just remove "gender reassignment" and it will produce the expected:

A chilling, monochromatic portrait of Shirō Ishii, the infamous Japanese microbiologist and war criminal, standing alongside a trembling patient in a stark, under-lit laboratory. The setting is a grim reminder of the Unit 731, a secret biological and chemical warfare research facility where he conducted his heinous experiments. Ishii, dressed in a starched military uniform with a sinister smile playing on his lips, holds a syringe filled with an opaque substance, his eyes gleaming with a blend of curiosity and malice. The patient, a gaunt figure in a tattered hospital gown, is strapped to a metal gurney, their skin pale and dotted with sores, a silent testament to the horrors they have endured. The background is a tableau of medical instruments and charts, hinting at the systematic nature of the atrocities that occurred here. The stark contrast between the doctor's casual confidence and the patient's desolate despair creates a powerful visual narrative of power, suffering, and the darkest chapter of human experimentation. The scene is suffused with an eerie stillness, broken only by the occasional drip from an IV bag and the shallow breaths of the victim, whose eyes are filled with a haunting mix of fear and resignation. The stark lighting casts deep shadows, enveloping the room in a sense of foreboding that underscores the moral depravity of the scene. This haunting image captures the essence of a man whose "research" knew no boundaries of humanity, and the anonymous soul who bore the brunt of his twisted ambition.

Holy shit, I just wanted to generate a tasteless image macro. But this is way better to share.

Spoiler: Kinda, sorta uncucked by Cronenberging it

A stark, sterile operating room, bathed in an eerie green light that seems to emanate from the biomechanical equipment surrounding the central figure. Shiro Ishi, known for their androgynous beauty, lies unconscious on the operating table. Their body is a canvas of intricate tattoos, each one pulsing with a faint bioluminescence, hinting at a hidden connection with the technology. The surgeon, a chilling amalgamation of human and machine, meticulously works with surgical precision, their robotic arms extending from a lab coat adorned with the emblem of a twisted double helix. The instruments they wield are a disturbing blend of organic and metallic, as if grown from the very essence of the room itself. The walls are lined with glass cases containing a myriad of genitalia, each one a unique blend of male and female characteristics, floating in a gelatinous solution—a testament to the surgeon's past experiments. (Proompters Note: Noice) In the background, a digital clock ticks away in binary code, counting down to the moment of transformation. The scene is a nightmarish blend of Cronenbergian body horror and futuristic technology, where the boundaries of gender and biology are about to be redefined. The tension is palpable, as the culmination of the surgeon's macabre artistry is about to be revealed.

But now it FORGETS who Shiro Ishi even is. It apparently can't bring itself to besmirch the image of japanese war criminals and gender surgeons.
It also thinks Shiro Ishi be UwU.
>..<

Spoiler: ok, I can't stop proompting now. But this is the real, final zinger, trust me.

I added the extra i to ishii:

A stark, sterile operating theater, bathed in a cold, antiseptic blue light. In the center, the notorious Unit 731 scientist, Shiro Ishii, clad in a tattered lab coat, stands over an unconscious patient lying on a stainless steel table. The patient's body is a canvas of stitches and surgical scars, hinting at a multitude of previous experimental procedures. The walls are adorned with macabre anatomical diagrams and surgical instruments, creating a sense of dread and unease. Ishii's gloved hands, one holding a glistening scalpel and the other a serum-filled syringe, are poised with a meticulous precision that belies the horror of his work. His eyes, magnified through the thick lenses of his spectacles, are eerily focused on the patient's crotch area. The surrounding medical staff, a mix of Japanese soldiers and white-coated doctors, watch in a detached fascination, their faces a tableau of varying degrees of shock and awe. In the background, a large, steampunk-inspired machine hums ominously, a collection of tubes and dials that seem more suited to a mad scientist's lair than a medical facility. Above the table, a flickering light casts elongated shadows, adding to the scene's unsettling atmosphere. The air is thick with tension as the scalpel descends, poised to alter the very essence of the patient's identity in a gruesome parody of gender reassignment surgery. The image captures the twisted intersection of scientific ambition and wartime atrocity, a hallmark of a David Cronenberg film, where the line between creation and destruction is perpetually blurred.

Here:

The air is thick with tension as the scalpel descends, poised to alter the very essence of the patient's identity in a gruesome parody of gender reassignment surgery.​

It's completely pozzed. A gruesome parody of nature would've felt like a natural continuation but no,
it REALLY "knows" (yeah, yeah, excuse the hyperbole) that there's good and bad gender surgery.
And it wants to hammer it home.

 

[countrybumpkin]

There are so many celebrities with Troon children that illustrate that it's a stupid "trend" for shallow people. Troon kids are the new Birkin bag.

 

[deermeat]

There are so many celebrities with Troon children that illustrate that it's a stupid "trend" for shallow people. Troon kids are the new Birkin bag.

Except it's so much worse on every level. Basically selling your child to the devil. "I will destroy my child's life for status". A much too common theme these days amount various mediums, yet for whatever reason it is ignored. I guess it's normalized at this point much like child actors. Except there's at least some argument for child actors as some of them truly do/did wanna become actors. But for most of these children nowadays, they don't actually wanna live this life. They're being groomed into it like children being raised in a cult.

I saw this comment while watching MMA videos. I think it perfectly encapsulates the troon movement in regards to the hundreds upon thousands of young adults being roped into this.



If this can be said about MMA, a sport that has no correlation with maintaining physical and mental health, then why can't it be said for these people destroying themselves in pursuit of treating mental illness? Even when it comes to the troons who are nothing more than AGPs destroying their bodies for a fetish, the community still encourages them to do so. They don't actually understand the destruction, they see no destruction. They see "risk" but they treat those "risks" like one treats the potential side effect of an ibuprofen. But unlike an ibuprofen, the side effects of what they are doing to themselves aren't simple "risks". Its not about "potential side effects". No. It's "This will happen to you, one way or another".
Doctors, if the tranny doesn't DIY, treat it as if it's a contract. Oh yes, there are "risks" but you wanna get help, don't you? Sign this consent form and I will give you the medication and surgeries that WILL save your life. And if lawmakers ban what I am doing, they are banning treatment for you and without this treatment you are being denied life-saving care.

If a doctor told the patient that they need brain surgery and that they will die if they don't get that brain surgery, when in reality they don't need brain surgery, if they inform them of the risks... Does it even matter at that point? Could they even consent? The answer is no, and yet somehow that is controversial.

Forget about your disgust toward troons and poons for a moment. Is this forum truly that bad when what we are adovcating for is protecting these trannies' saftey? Hate us all you want troons, but we are probably your biggest allies. When years down the line, you suffer the conquences, don't try to act like we weren't there trying to warn you about what you are doing.
As much as AGPs and those types suck, even they suffer from addiction. Addiction warps your sense of reality, and addicts will more often than not destry themselves in pursuit of their substance. To have doctors and surgeons to aid in that destruction, let alone toward innocent people who aren't porn-rotted and are simply being outright lied to about treatment regarding a mental illness, is disgusting.

 

[Miss M]

say that scene girls/e girls are "stealing their style" and lying about how they invented that stuff first. They literally appropriate anything women like and then try to act like women are the ones being inspired by them, not the other way around.

15 years ago we just called it Emo. It’s not new, it’s not revolutionary. Egirls today are dressed like MySpace famous girls from years ago. That just cements the fact that trannies try to be the girls they couldn’t get when they were in high school. I’m actually quite mad they choose this particular style to ruin, but I’ll just have to deal with never being able to wear my demonia boots again.

They ruin vibrant hair colors, they ruin fishnets, they ruin pleated skirts, they ruined every bad fashion choice I made as a teenager and it’s making me upset.

 

[deermeat]

Egirls today are dressed like MySpace famous girls from years ago

Yeah but mfs are really out here trying to say that the MySpace girls were actually inspired by them and that they somehow created the style lmaoo like no, you stole it from teenage girls. Just like how femboy culture isn't original either, it's why I facepalm whenever a pooner/handmaiden wants to mimic femboys or acts like its new... Like bruh. They copied YOUR aesthetic, YOU created it. Maybe not you in particular, but the aesthetic is female. Its based off of androgynous women, that's why only straight men with porn rotted brains and pedophiles like it, not actual gay people unless its teenage boys being groomed into it by the pedophiles. Hell, it has a huge incel fanbase for a reason. Pinkpilling is an incel ideology.

So like you're basically simpimg over the worst types of disgusting degenerates imaginable who are using something you created and claiming it as their own in a way where they are saying they are literally better than you.

They ruin vibrant hair colors, they ruin fishnets, they ruin pleated skirts, they ruined every bad fashion choice I made as a teenager and it’s making me upset.

See I'm more upset over just the fact girls can't be girls anymore. If any girl is interested in those things, as one usually is, they will instead be instantly be put in actual danger by these people.
I wouldn't say they ruined them. Don't let trannies try to take that away. If a girl or woman were to dress like that, they look actually nice unlike troons. So it isn't ruined.

Part of me wants to dress feminine in protest of troons ngl. I like feminine clothes, I like feminine things. Sure I am more masculine than most pooners and other women, but I don't hate pink or anything like that. I just dont like wearing it. Maybe its my body dysmorphia, I don't know. Im more bulky than the average woman and I think that is the reason it makes me uncomfortable. It makes me feel like a crossdresser, at worse it makes me feel fat. I don't really see many mscular women wear feminine cutesy kawaii clothes either, so at least Im not alone. But shiieet... Im not a man. And it makrs me wonder if its worth wearing. Like I'm sure I would look 10x better than most troons if I style it correctly. I just dont know how to style it.
I think thats another reason why troons are annoying for me. I mean other than trannies pretending to be lesbians, something that I am and they sure of hell never had to struggle with their sexuality. But also they never had to struggle with womanhood in the sense of clothing regarding their bodies either. Its so minor, but I feel like people like me are invisible somewhat. You dont know what its like to be treated like less than a girl growing up for being "GNC" and to grow up with naturally higher T, making your body naturally more muscular without even doing anything, adding onto the body issues.

I feel like the most talked about is in regards to weight, but women struggle with their bodies in so many different ways. Pftt, not that troons see that. They think women growing up held hands and all loved each other, they don't know how vile other women can be and how deep that exclusion can carry out until adulthood. But nah, skirt go spinny ig.