Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[EllenDrawsRapeOfHerHaters]

I'm happy the troon stuff is being rolled back but unhappy that they can actually argue about being oppressed now.

 

[DefCon Dumb]

Oh, they can try and argue but aren’t going to get too far.

I’m sick of the parroted: “trans rights are human rights!”

In general as a Canadian, I don’t see any lack of basic rights for trannies in the US. I must default to the generic “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness”, as well as your Bill of Rights.

Very broadly speaking, the issue I see is trannies wanting far more than the rights guaranteed to everybody. Nobody is telling them they can’t use bathrooms or play sports. What an increasing number are saying and rightly so is that they do NOT have a “right “ to barge into spaces belonging to the sex they want to assume.

This old fart is not appreciated by younger relatives by seeing no problems with single sex spaces or activities. Fairness and equality can be measured many ways.

Far as I’m concerned, if trannies want to present as the opposite sex, they’re free to do so. They are NOT free to dictate the reactions of those they encounter. If they make major changes in their lives, fine but they must be prepared to deal with the family and social consequences.

The madness must stop.

I’m appalled that my country bends over backwards trying to force silence, if not acceptance. That doesn’t and never will work other than to allow trannies to think they’re winning people over.

Anything but!

 

[Rogue AI]

I started wondering what would happen to the troons that don't 41% and end up in nursing homes with dementia. How're they going to dilate when they don't even know what year it is? Are they gonna train nursing aides to do it for them or are they just gonna let their necrotic neo-organs fuse back together? I tried doing a search on it but the only thing that shows up are articles about troons being misgendered in nursing homes.

 

[EllenDrawsRapeOfHerHaters]

I started wondering what would happen to the troons that don't 41% and end up in nursing homes with dementia. How're they going to dilate when they don't even know what year it is? Are they gonna train nursing aides to do it for them or are they just gonna let their necrotic neo-organs fuse back together? I tried doing a search on it but the only thing that shows up are articles about troons being misgendered in nursing homes.

Some remember their original sex and freak out.

 

[Mad_Dog]

Some remember their original sex and freak out.

Pray for the poor nurses who will have to deal with the demented² trannies in 50-60 years

 

[FinnSven]

Pray for the poor nurses who will have to deal with the demented² trannies in 50-60 years

That’s already being reported.
Old Troons freaking out because they forget or regress to a state before the chop and tit job.

Which also contradicts their claims of Troons intrinsically and always knowing they were meant to be women.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

It's really not hard to ignore (or comply with) pronouns

If you have a job where ignoring pronouns does no harm to you, I'm glad for you. Many of us are not in such a position of privilege.

And if you want to comply with pronouns, I'm also glad for you, but that does not mean everyone wants to do it, and while you might find it 'not hard' to compromise your language and not bothered by the threat of punishment, other people might be bothered by it.

and treat trans colleagues with polite professionalism and realize that things like transgender children are non-issues that have no effect on most people's lives.

In what universe does the State approving of the mutilation and chemical castration of children have 'no effect' on people's lives? Do you imagine children being told to treat a male child as if he were female has 'no effect' on them?

There are so many things wrong with trans ideology and its sinister spread it's staggering you can't see it.

Everything, EVERYTHING, about trans ideology is wrong, and some of it is wrong and evil. Here's my list in order starting with the most evil.

i) Chemically castrating and surgically mutilating children's bodies. This is so transparently evil I won't even say any more about it.

ii) Destroying single-sex spaces, especially for women but for both sexes in fact.

iii) Cooking the minds of children, and compelling the language of dissenters via threat of State punishment, financial ruination and social ostracism. The unrelenting assault on language and logic and civics and reality represented by trans ideology, such as State-altered birth certificates and the falsification of crime reporting and data.

iv) The destruction of political parties, international humanitarian institutions, corporations, women's rights, and almost everything else, with trans madness.

v) The incredible cost burden of trans medication and trans surgeries on every single person, trans or not, either in a socialised medical system (UK, Australia, much of Europe) or via increased insurance premiums (US).

 

[Trapper]

Stonewall quietly changing its definitions. The Mayor of London removed his pronouns from his X bio, but blamed it on a “technical issue” after he didn’t get away with doing it on the quiet either.

My question is, why the sudden about turn from UK/Europe, after Trump’s policies that have nothing to do with other countries? They pushed back against the Cass Report, and try to silence critics, I don’t think they’re scared of any consequences or have any regret for their actions. It reads as an “oh shit maybe this isn’t a good look after all”. But why now?

 

[teriyakiburns]

My question is, why the sudden about turn from UK/Europe, after Trump’s policies that have nothing to do with other countries?

The turn happened after Cass, despite the initial pushback. The more forward-thinking institutions, who could foresee the swelling opposition to trans, began dropping trans support almost immediately once the full ramifications of the report became apparent. Their support for trans causes was becoming an unsustainable cost to them, but they had no political cover to break with the movement, which seemed as if its ascendancy would never cease. Cass was the excuse they needed. Things have started to snowball since.

 

[dvorak]

“Something you may not have thought of is that there are a lot of people who can’t move on from this. . . that’s the people who have transitioned their own children. So those people are going to be like the Japanese soldiers who were on Pacific islands and didn’t know the war was over. They’ve got to fight forever. This is another reason why this is the worst, worst, worst social contagion that we’ll ever have experienced.

“A lot of people have done what is the worst thing you could do, which is to harm their children irrevocably, because of it. Those people will have to believe that they did the right thing for the rest of their lives, for their own sanity, and for their own self-respect. So, they’ll still be fighting, and each one of those people destroys entire organizations and entire friendship groups.

“Like, I’ve lost count of the number of times that somebody has said to me of a specific organization that has been turned upside down on this, “Oh, the deputy director has a trans child.” Or, oh, the journalist on that paper who does special investigations has a trans child. Or whatever. The entire organization gets paralyzed by that one person. And it may not even be widely known at that organization that they have a trans child. But it will come out, people will have sort of said quietly, and now you can’t talk truth in front of that person, and you know you can’t, because what you’re saying is: “You as a parent have done a truly, like, a human rights abuse level of awful thing to your own child that cannot be fixed.”

 

[Aunt Carol]

Are they gonna train nursing aides to do it for them or are they just gonna let their necrotic neo-organs fuse back together?

Dementia is going to make it really weird, because if it were a troon with mental capacity but hemiplegia from a stroke, dilation could be a reasonable personal care task. KF readers know that most troons are assholes on a power trip, and would be deeply skeptical about the power dynamic, but an agency or whoever writes the care plan might be high-minded and see assisting in dilation as akin to digital rectal stimulation on a quad; awkward but necessary.

I dunno how this is going to play out exactly, but if the patient is demented it's probably going to be converting to zero-depth when necessary to remove infection and prioritize the urinary tract. Probably going to be some interesting growth in geriatric urology in the years to come.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

Probably going to be some interesting growth in geriatric urology in the years to come.

I guess 'interesting growth' is a succint way of saying 'forced, slapdash, painful, humiliating medical interventions to temper horrifying self-imposed carnal mutilations'

 

[Aunt Carol]

I guess 'interesting growth' is a succinct way of saying 'forced, slapdash, painful, humiliating medical interventions to temper horrifying self-imposed carnal mutilations'

Surgically repairing stinkditches is going to be pretty routine and unremarkable... once the goal is not the troon's "porn star vagina that smells good and gives tons of orgasms" but the troon's next of kin's "crotch able to pee and stops getting abscesses."

 

[Deepland Bystander]

There are far too many kids who were put on blockers, but not nearly enough to create some kind of stupid sci fi "world beyond gender" gay Annie Lennox David Bowie fantasy like what you're clearly hoping for.

Everyone who can stuff themselves back into something resembling normal had better start stuffing because the culture is giving some pretty clear indications of what is coming next and it's not agender paradise.

This wasn't what I meant at all. All these people won't be rockstars, this is mutilation in the name of ideology. When did I say this was going to be utopian? What you have will be the eunuchs that are left as historical curiosities after the empire has fallen.

However my point was that the troons that will realise what they did and they won't have the cultural capital to keep the current narrative chugging on anymore - they'll have to find a new meaning for themselve. They'll have to deal with being altered, and some who might actually like gender nonconforming expression has to reframe it in the way that isn't about being trans

But the past won't come back. We won't return to idealised past. But the problem of now is that we have no dream for the future either. It's a time of monsters

 

[Mississippi River]

Far as I’m concerned, if trannies want to present as the opposite sex, they’re free to do so. They are NOT free to dictate the reactions of those they encounter. If they make major changes in their lives, fine but they must be prepared to deal with the family and social consequences.

Same thing with this oldie as well. I didn't care about trannies until they made it my problem. They're allowed to wear their dresses and conform to whatever gender they want to, I don't see a problem with that. The problem is when they start making kids into things they don't want to be, pretend like they're oppressed, and force the world to revolve around them. They asked for the boot to be put on them and pretend like they didn't have it coming. I love my transgender son, but he needs to listen to reason.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

In what universe does the State approving of the mutilation and chemical castration of children have 'no effect' on people's lives? Do you imagine children being told to treat a male child as if he were female has 'no effect' on them?

This kind of stuff is underemphasized as a harm and evil of trannyism. The power that teachers and other adults have over little kids is immense. Do you remember how frightening it was to have an adult who was in charge of you get actually, truly angry at you when you were kindergarten age? The adult could pick you up and smash you to bits and even if you were never physically smacked around, your little animal brain knew this and reacted accordingly.

Adults are implicitly or explicitly threatening these little kids with "you better play along with something you absolutely know to be a ridiculous lie, or else I will wreck you." No more playing outside with your friends, you are in detention for misgendering the tranny. Your parents are mad too because a letter got sent home. And the teacher has made sure your peers torment you about it, too. Total ostracization and the threat of physical bullying from peers. People in prisons have more rights and protections than a little kid in that situation. Even if you get boarded with a tranny in prison, at least you have a lawyer who can try to help you out. Little kids have nothing.

And it's designed this way. It's meant to break them mentally and spiritually.

 

[Super Mario Brothers]

Question for people here: How many of you know trannies who could plan into the future? How many do you know could plan outside transition goals? I think I've only met a small amount who could plan transition, and almost no career aspects. I think maybe programming is the only one I could think of, and even then its to shape it around their transition. They act suicidal before transition, they act suicidal during transition, and they'll act suicidal after transition. I think this inability to plan for the future is their eventual downfall, and when the warmth of the tranny hugbox goes away, only then will they realize they had messed up.

 

[Misogenes]

Question for people here: How many of you know trannies who could plan into the future? How many do you know could plan outside transition goals?

Dunno about the online troons I know, most of our chitchat is about the MMO we play or maybe general life stuff and job hunting, nothing too deep.

The family troon is a forever college student who might finally have a foot in a potential career through his internship. Seldom see him enough to hear him talk about work or future business.

Don't know yet if my sister ended up pooning out or not, but she was never much of a planner. Joined the military when her friend did, went in to do such-and-such job, left to do college, and that was basically the extent of it last I checked. With her background she could probably get a comfy job in her field, but her civilian work experience was low-level entry stuff that's the kind of thing college kids do to get pocket money.

 

[Aunt Carol]

They act suicidal before transition, they act suicidal during transition, and they'll act suicidal after transition. I think this inability to plan for the future is their eventual downfall

I think this is a feature, not a bug. That's why the party line is always how they're in danger, how they're going to be murdered, how their family and friends hate them. Feed that fear and keep the novice troon concentrating on survival and living in the present, no ability to plan for the future or think about what a good future would look like. Someone who's thinking about the future can't effectively threaten suicide, and someone who's progressing in their career is at risk of finding meaning from something other than their trans identity.

 

[Dang dirty Pidgeons!]

I think this inability to plan for the future is their eventual downfall, and when the warmth of the tranny hugbox goes away, only then will they realize they had messed up.

You also see that in the nikita dragun types. They are career trannys alright, but they all "hit the wall" come 30, when their peers turn out dads and moms with long term partners and families. They didn't think of that because they're just like incels and think there's nothing post 30 anyway - but there's no wall for real women, but for men who turn themselves into exotic sex freaks: very much so. You also see that with gays, who could just stop doing chemsex orgies with men and settle for a normal life, but they went all in on the freak card because they just can't see that far ahead. The "successful" ones will just coast along as the weird, local bargain bin jeffrey star hairdresser (we have one here where I live) - but that's never what they set out to do - the strategy is unsustainable, because it literally is a kind of death cult - they always cope by pointing at the disabled or women who missed out on having kids for other reasons - but all those are tragedies all the same - they don't understand that people don't respect them, unlike the aforementioned - because they lack the theory of mind to process that sterlinizing yourself out of vanity looks drastically different to people other than themselves: There really IS something going on in the autism and intellectual (dis)ability department on a whole, but we will probably never see research into that. And because you need to be a certain kind of stupid to fall for it, they always tried to get them younger and younger in first place.