Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[w.a.m.s.]

In a roundabout way, I almost... appreciate transgenderism. I don't appreciate trannies or what they do or how they try to convert troubled kids into being trans. But I've come to appreciate that if a grown adult self-describes as trans, there is a 99% chance they have unmanaged autism, porn addiction, inability to treat women like normal people, or some other trait that makes them think "demanding everyone else pretends I'm a different sex than I observably I am? sounds feasible and like the answer to my problems!" It's like having the phrase "I AM BAD NEWS" tattooed on their forehead in neon pink and blue, so I know to avoid them. I shouldn't phrase it like I've always been too smart to interact with trannies, because I haven't. And I would like to be fair to detrans/desisted people who dealt with their problems and got out of that crab bucket. Caveats aside, the movement is like a scupper that collects insufferable people and asks them to wave its banner, and that's not all bad.

 

[alphabetnigger]

Trannies made me mad at the internet for trying to make something into more tranny bullshit and I got banned from something. I feel kinda dumb for letting it make me so mad, but I'm so tired of these grooming faggots in every online space

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

I'd like to ask the users of this thread: Who do you think should be held responsible for facilitating the trans movement and why?

Blaming the rise of the trans movement and ideology squarely on one specific demographic doesn't make any sense and is quite unfair. Seeing the same posts again targeting one specific group for all the negative aspects of the trans ideology on this forum also gets very old and grating fast. Some male users here on the farms believe Feminism, the gay rights movement, and women as a whole are 100% responsible for causing the modern trans movement today. I've read posts by radfems both on Twitter and the Kiwifarms who put the blame solely on gay men for what's going on.

I don't think the envisioned future that second or first wave feminists had in mind included crossdressing men crybullying and walking all over women as the end goal of women's liberation. Nor do I believe the wealthy gay men who fund many trans advocacy groups are entirely representative of every single gay guy.


It's difficult to point the finger at who is exactly at fault for all the trans lunacy. A number of people and organisations over the decades in the trans movement, in my opinion, are culpable rather than a few demographics. As we all know, academics, quack doctors and physicians, enabler activists, and the modern left consisting of both men and women who have drunk the gender kool-aid directly contributed to this mess.

Pretty much all of the multi-millionaires and billionaires funding this movement that Jennifer Bilek mentions on her blog. Primarily the autogynephile Martine "Transgenderism is a step towards transhumanism" Rothblatt, Jon Stryker, and the Pritzker family (especially the billionaire governor of Illinois, J.B. Pritzker and his autogynephilic cousin Jennifer Pritzker). Drummond Pike, the founder of the Tides Foundation, also has a special place in hell given that the Tides Foundation serves as a holding fund of sorts for left-wing dark money, and is responsible for much of the tranny propaganda, especially since they captured Wikipedia in 2016.

 

[Izdaja Slika]

One thing I can't stand about TRAs is the sheer narcissism in thinking that trans people understand gender and that because I'm "cis" that I'll never understand it or not yet at least. For example, this TIF goes on a huge rant about how if you think TIFs can't be lesbians that you're a TERF and that actual queer people understand gender and sexuality on levels that we "cis" people don't. These people get off on authority and the perception that they are experts, along with snidely lecturing others and making them feel stupid. Its the sheer narcissism in thinking they have all the answers and have super unique brains that can understand gender and we're all a bunch of idiots who haven't understand it yet.
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For these people, "gender identity" is God and trans people are the high priests and theologians of the new religion.

The problem for them is, though, there were genuine philosophers of religion who were formidable intellectuals and powerful thinkers. Genderspecials are neither.

 

[Sped Bundy]

Seems like lefties love their jokes about white women fucking dogs, but I'd bet my bottom dollar that if you were to say the same about troons they'd get assblasted over it. But why would this be the case? They're women, aren't they?

 

[Lovely Kin]

Just something that's on my mind, but how did the Pacific Northwest become ground zero for trannyism? I know about the faggy Harvey Milk stuff in SF, but not much about Portland and Seattle that would attract troons en-masse even before it went mainstream.

 

[and I must scream]

Pretty much all of the multi-millionaires and billionaires funding this movement that Jennifer Bilek mentions on her blog. Primarily the autogynephile Martine "Transgenderism is a step towards transhumanism" Rothblatt, Jon Stryker, and the Pritzker family (especially the billionaire governor of Illinois, J.B. Pritzker and his autogynephilic cousin Jennifer Pritzker). Drummond Pike, the founder of the Tides Foundation, also has a special place in hell given that the Tides Foundation serves as a holding fund of sorts for left-wing dark money, and is responsible for much of the tranny propaganda, especially since they captured Wikipedia in 2016.

Great list, I'll use it any time some pro-troons libtard talk to me about how the rich are the problem and the facilitators of our anti-LGBTQ, anti-immigrates, fascist Nazi regime (despite not being able to name even one except for Musk and Trump).

I didn't know of Jennifer Bilek. Of course since she is gender-critical I cannot find her books anywhere in the libraries, and have to buy a copy with my own money if I wish to read any of them. Like any other gender critical book. Meanwhile, I keep hearing there is a ban on pro-LGBTQ and pro-immigrant books which is an obvious sign of fascism and authoritarian regimes, you know, like the Nazis. Interesting.

Say, do you have a direct link to this particular blog post ? Or is the list spread over several blog posts?

Seems like lefties love their jokes about white women fucking dogs

I'm sorry, what?

 

[bouquetnine]

Great list, I'll use it any time some pro-troons libtard talk to me about how the rich are the problem and the facilitators of our anti-LGBTQ, anti-immigrates, fascist Nazi regime (despite not being able to name even one except for Musk and Trump).

Troons claim to hate the rich and the establishment yet parrot all of the talking points of the rich and mainstream media. Literal NPCs. If called out they resort to their authoritarian measures to silence opposition and reinforce their echo chambers.

I'm sorry, what?

Women struggle to keep a man and replace having kids with "fur babies". I'll let you fill in the blanks. It's probably jewish projection. I know one jewish woman that refused to neuter her dog and that dog had some peculiar habits.

 

[lzbkis]

I left the trans community about a year ago after deprogramming myself, and I cut off most of the people I knew, in order to start over and become a strong and well-adjusted person. Of course, TRAs are socially unavoidable, especially in friend groups of people my age (20s). The few TRAs in my circles know that I am a detransitioner because I am vocal about it, and they are all skinny TiFs who are sort of meekly beginning their transitions; I hold a lot of hope that by opening up about detransitioning they will maybe stop going down the rabbit hole, stop dressing like teenage boys, stop talking in that stupid frog voice, and stay with their natural bodies before it's too late. I hold that hope every time I see them, the hope that it can save their lives the way it saved mine.

Also, as a side note, leaving the trans community made me realize how much easier it is to be friends with people when you aren't constantly tripping over your words trying to say the right pronouns or whatever, or having your speech corrected by someone with blue hair. Saying your mind, consequences be damned, is what friendship should be, and I don't miss that Orwellian nightmare, with its tyranny of weak and fragile minds.

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

Great list, I'll use it any time some pro-troons libtard talk to me about how the rich are the problem and the facilitators of our anti-LGBTQ, anti-immigrates, fascist Nazi regime (despite not being able to name even one except for Musk and Trump).

I didn't know of Jennifer Bilek. Of course since she is gender-critical I cannot find her books anywhere in the libraries, and have to buy a copy with my own money if I wish to read any of them. Like any other gender critical book. Meanwhile, I keep hearing there is a ban on pro-LGBTQ and pro-immigrant books which is an obvious sign of fascism and authoritarian regimes, you know, like the Nazis. Interesting.

Say, do you have a direct link to this particular blog post ? Or is the list spread over several blog posts?


I'm sorry, what?

There's no particular list, it's just plastered all over her posts:

https://www.the11thhourblog.com/

Also George Soros, Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffet, and Bill Gates have been implicated, but I wonder if for them it's just an investment trend. Still not surprised to see them come up in something scummy though.

 

[neu]

Sometimes I feel like I'm missing something. Lately I've seen some articles involving famous trannies, trannies who allegedly transitioned at a young age, etc. and even then I find that, at best, they mostly just look like faggy teenage boys. Yet countless people cite them as prime examples of "passing" trannies. I mean, I've maybe seen a handful of trannies that could've fooled me personally I guess but it's generally never been any of the ones people specifically point towards as if to say I never would've been able to tell. Honestly I feel like I'm crazy sometimes when trannies describe themselves as stealth or other people describe a tranny as passing because how am I expected to believe that people can't tell? I know this has probably been said before but it's just something that confuses me still when I'm reading things online.

 

[Kent Allard]

Honestly I feel like I'm crazy sometimes when trannies describe themselves as stealth or other people describe a tranny as passing because how am I expected to believe that people can't tell? I know this has probably been said before but it's just something that confuses me still when I'm reading things online.

"Mass propaganda discovered that its audience was ready at all times to believe the worst, no matter how absurd, and did not particularly object to being deceived because it held every statement to be a lie anyhow. The totalitarian mass leaders based their propaganda on the correct psychological assumption that, under such conditions, one could make people believe the most fantastic statements one day, and trust that if the next day they were given irrefutable proof of their falsehood, they would take refuge in cynicism; instead of deserting the leaders who had lied to them, they would protest that they had known all along that the statement was a lie and would admire the leaders for their superior tactical cleverness."

The Origins of Totalitarianism

Hanna Arendt

 

[Meat Target]

Honestly I feel like I'm crazy sometimes when trannies describe themselves as stealth or other people describe a tranny as passing because how am I expected to believe that people can't tell?

Don't allow them to gaslight you. It's all about sex and power.

"Trans women are women" is the "2+2=5" of Clown World. It's self-evident bullshit that you are expected to not only assent to, but sincerely believe, or else they will destroy your social and professional life.

Like Theodore Dalrymple said of communist societies, they are not trying to convince or persuade you. They're trying to humiliate and break you.

Troons' desire for power over other people becomes obvious when you look at the memes and artwork they share amongst themselves. Sissy hypno, bimbofication, caption stories, etc. At least half of it involves someone else being trooned out against their will. It's all extremely rapey.

Saying your mind, consequences be damned, is what friendship should be, and I don't miss that Orwellian nightmare, with its tyranny of weak and fragile minds.

The trans community's behavior is textbook cult/abuser/psycho behavior. But because it is dedicated to the Holy Sacrament of Cooming, it will never be correctly identified and condemned as such.

 

[Dolly Brooks]

Sometimes I feel like I'm missing something. Lately I've seen some articles involving famous trannies, trannies who allegedly transitioned at a young age, etc. and even then I find that, at best, they mostly just look like faggy teenage boys. Yet countless people cite them as prime examples of "passing" trannies. I mean, I've maybe seen a handful of trannies that could've fooled me personally I guess but it's generally never been any of the ones people specifically point towards as if to say I never would've been able to tell. Honestly I feel like I'm crazy sometimes when trannies describe themselves as stealth or other people describe a tranny as passing because how am I expected to believe that people can't tell? I know this has probably been said before but it's just something that confuses me still when I'm reading things online.

Yeah, they’re all like “you’ve been in the bathroom with trans women all along and you never knew!” and then present Hunter Schaefer as the best trickoid they have to offer. If he’s the best of the best, puberty blockers ain’t enough guys. Sorry to tell ya.

 

[neu]

Like Theodore Dalrymple said of communist societies, they are not trying to convince or persuade you. They're trying to humiliate and break you.

I think what gets me is that ultimately they're just deceiving themselves. I just don't get how, even if they manage to coerce everyone into enabling their bullshit, the fact that they're near entirely dependent on pharmaceuticals and empty validation doesn't trouble them more.

Yeah, they’re all like “you’ve been in the bathroom with trans women all along and you never knew!” and then present Hunter Schaefer as the best trickoid they have to offer. If he’s the best of the best, puberty blockers ain’t enough guys. Sorry to tell ya.

Exactly. It's honestly kind of crazy to me how many trannies I've seen idolize Hunter Schafer when, if anything, I don't think it's a very good sign that that's the best they've got. I've said it before but it's especially dumb to me that these people are used as a way to argue in favor of puberty blockers at a young age when evidently it doesn't make too much of a difference.

 

[Meat Target]

I just don't get how, even if they manage to coerce everyone into enabling their bullshit, the fact that they're near entirely dependent on pharmaceuticals and empty validation doesn't trouble them more.

Narcissists are parasites. They get their kicks from always receiving and giving nothing in return.

I wonder if there's some comorbidity between trannydom and Munchausen syndrome. They are both obsessed with muh healthcare and being professional science experiments.

Exactly. It's honestly kind of crazy to me how many trannies I've seen idolize Hunter Schafer when, if anything, I don't think it's a very good sign that that's the best they've got.

When most of them are raunchy old men dressed up like hookers, they have to praise the 0.01% of trannies who don't immediately make your skin crawl on sight. They're trying to disprove the rule by pointing to a rare exception.

and even then I find that, at best, they mostly just look like faggy teenage boys.

That reminds me of a question I've had, but been unable to word it properly. Is there a type of physiognomy or look pre-transition that indicates whether someone might be in the closet.

 

[fitty tucker]

Yeah, they’re all like “you’ve been in the bathroom with trans women all along and you never knew!” and then present Hunter Schaefer as the best trickoid they have to offer. If he’s the best of the best, puberty blockers ain’t enough guys. Sorry to tell ya.

I would love to see imaging of troon adrenal glands after several years of cross-sex hormone "therapy." Part of the adrenal gland produces a small amount of (your biological) sex hormones. I bet troon adrenal glands are working fucking overtime trying to correct their physiologic imbalance. I think it's why TIMs get more masculine as time goes on (especially if they get FFS), and TIFs get more feminine. Time is not kind to trannies.

Can't erase biology. Bummer.

 

[Hum Humina]

Just something that's on my mind, but how did the Pacific Northwest become ground zero for trannyism? I know about the faggy Harvey Milk stuff in SF, but not much about Portland and Seattle that would attract troons en-masse even before it went mainstream.

Hyperliberal bubble tech hub with a lot of upper-middle class autists raising only children that they had late and/or having a mid-life crisis and trooning out.

 

[bouquetnine]

That reminds me of a question I've had, but been unable to word it properly. Is there a type of physiognomy or look pre-transition that indicates whether someone might be in the closet.

There have been some studies have used neural nets to accurately determine if someone is gay or not just by their face. That got buried quickly because it's too close to phrenology and that's a taboo subject. It wouldn't surprise me if other features can be determined from someone's face.