Random Tumblr posts

View attachment 1110354

There are people defending Erzsebet Bathory and they're rewriting her history by claiming that she was framed and taken down because of patriarchy. She used to have women burned in cages and other horrible methods of torture but sure, she was framed and totally innocent. The truth is that she had a really insane family with a lot of messed up relatives so it's not surprising that Erzsebet Bathory ended up the way she was. The other truth is that it took ages to bring her down for her crimes because she was so powerful.

Not to be that one dick but the people defending Erzsebet Bathory/Báthori Erzsébet are (somewhat) right. She really was a well educated woman, she loved her serfs and they loved her as well (some say she was a motherly figure to them), she took in a lot of widowed women after the Osman-Hungarian fights (regardless of nationality), she studied medicine and she did run a hospital in the Csejte castle. Hungarian historians have proven all of this a long time ago (mostly via old letters).

The legends and myths about her torturing women is just that, legends and myths. All these accusations came from a Lutheran preacher and writer Magyari István who wanted Báthori Erzsébet's money and property. The bathing in blood rumor came out more than a 100 years after Báthori's death (Turóczi László:Tragica historia, 1729) and the torture rumors came out more than 200 years after Erzsébet's death (Mednyánszky Alajos: Malerische Reise auf dem Waagflusse in Ungern or Festői utazás a Vág folyón Magyarországon, 1844/1826). Some sources say that her husband requested Báthori to torture women (her husbnad sent his ideas to her via letters from the battlefield).

It's true that (at that time) they found the remains of young women around the property (around 600 bodies). Their bodies were "damaged", but I didn't find a source that says they were indeed tortured (most likely badly beaten). Also fun fact: there is two other suspects who could've committed these crimes (both of them are women) namely Thurzó Szaniszlóné and Listhius Anna Rozina. The later one seems more likely to commit these crimes than Báthori Erzsébet but I won't go into that. Thurzó György arrested Báthori Erzsébet (in 1610) based on rumors and she was sentenced to life in prison but other sources and old letters suggest that she was just under house arrest.

Sorry for the long history lesson but I though this was cool to know.


Also Source: Lots and lots of Hungarian sites and my shortened version of them. I doubt linking them would do you guys anything but if you want them, I'll share.
 
Not to be that one dick but the people defending Erzsebet Bathory/Báthori Erzsébet are (somewhat) right. She really was a well educated woman, she loved her serfs and they loved her as well (some say she was a motherly figure to them), she took in a lot of widowed women after the Osman-Hungarian fights (regardless of nationality), she studied medicine and she did run a hospital in the Csejte castle. Hungarian historians have proven all of this a long time ago (mostly via old letters).

The legends and myths about her torturing women is just that, legends and myths.

Except she was convicted of it. You can say the proceedings were rigged or it was politically motivated, and that would be pretty normal for the time and place, but there were a lot of unexplained dead bodies and no other suspects. The witnesses confessed under torture and were nearly immediately executed, but again, this was standard for the time and place.

Thurzó György arrested Báthori Erzsébet (in 1610) based on rumors and she was sentenced to life in prison but other sources and old letters suggest that she was just under house arrest.

And he's the source of most of the allegations against her and one of the few witnesses. It seems odd though that if the purpose were to get at her lands, that she'd have been allowed to will them to her descendants anyway.
 
Never forget the time a Tumblr user went all girl power on that one woman cult leader from Mexico who practiced human sacrifice.

Screenshot 2020-01-25 15.46.10.png
 
Except she was convicted of it. You can say the proceedings were rigged or it was politically motivated, and that would be pretty normal for the time and place, but there were a lot of unexplained dead bodies and no other suspects. The witnesses confessed under torture and were nearly immediately executed, but again, this was standard for the time and place.

There were two other suspects: Thurzó Szaniszlóné and Listhius Anna Rozina (there is some evidence that suggest Rozina was the actual murderer) but as you said this whole accusation was probably politically motivated. Well there is 3 suspects if you count Báthori's husband but he died a year before the accusations started.

And he's the source of most of the allegations against her and one of the few witnesses. It seems odd though that if the purpose were to get at her lands, that she'd have been allowed to will them to her descendants anyway.
I found this odd as well but I mostly just translated what I read.
 
There were two other suspects: Thurzó Szaniszlóné and Listhius Anna Rozina (there is some evidence that suggest Rozina was the actual murderer) but as you said this whole accusation was probably politically motivated. Well there is 3 suspects if you count Báthori's husband but he died a year before the accusations started.

Just because it was politically motivated doesn't mean it wasn't true though. And anything leading to that many dead bodies needed a really place of operations. Like the closest castle. Much like Gilles de Rais's killings, there isn't much reason to think the historical personage traditionally blamed for the murders wasn't the one who was convicted of them.
 
1580051385367.png

1580051465394.png

1580051483298.png

1580051510223.png

1580051531199.png




"Here, let me slap gross and fetishistic LGBTOMGWTFBBQ+ ~headcanions (that I treat as canon anyway) on characters from a series that was created almost 40 years ago and whose charas were almost surely intended as straight and/or too dedicated to soccer to give a shit about sexuality as a whole"
 
Last edited:
View attachment 1116211
View attachment 1116212
View attachment 1116213
View attachment 1116214
View attachment 1116215



"Here, let me slap gross and fetishistic LGBTOMGWTFBBQ+ ~headcanions (that I treat as canon anyway) on characters from a series that was created almost 40 years ago and whose characters were almost surely intended as straight and/or too dedicated to soccer to give a shit about sexuality as a whole"
"Nobody is cis! NOBODY."
 
View attachment 1116211
View attachment 1116212
View attachment 1116213
View attachment 1116214
View attachment 1116215



"Here, let me slap gross and fetishistic LGBTOMGWTFBBQ+ ~headcanions (that I treat as canon anyway) on characters from a series that was created almost 40 years ago and whose characters were almost surely intended as straight and/or too dedicated to soccer to give a shit about sexuality as a whole"
Jesus Christ, imagine doing this to all sports anime like Free! Iwatobi Swim Club, Haikyuu!!, Kuroko's Basketball, etc.?
 
  • Islamic Content
Reactions: UnsufficentBoobage
Back