US Randy Weaver, victim in Ruby Ridge terrorist attack, dies at 74 - the sniper fired a second bullet, which passed through Vicki Weaver's head as she held an infant and wounded Harris in the chest

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Randy Weaver, the object of the Ruby Ridge siege, visits with the media at the main FBI roadblock outside the Freemen compound in Montana on April 27, 1996. Weaver, who served as a spark for the growth of anti-government extremists, has died at the age of 74. Jim Mone/AP
Randy Weaver, patriarch of a family that was involved in an 11-day Idaho standoff with federal agents 30 years ago that left three people dead and helped spark the growth of anti-government extremists, has died at the age of 74.

His death was announced Thursday in a Facebook post by daughter Sara Weaver, who lives near Kalispell, Montana.

"Love you always Dad" was written on Sara Weaver's Facebook page, posted with a picture of an older Randy and a smiling Sara, along with the dates Jan. 3, 1948, and May 11, 2022.

Sara Weaver did not immediately return Facebook messages and email requests for information. Details of Randy Weaver's death were not immediately available.

The standoff in the mountains near Ruby Ridge in the Idaho Panhandle transfixed the nation in August of 1992.

Randy Weaver moved his family to northern Idaho in the 1980s to escape what he saw as a corrupt world. Over time, federal agents began investigating the Army veteran for possible ties to white supremacist and anti-government groups. Weaver was eventually suspected of selling a government informant two illegal sawed-off shotguns.

To avoid arrest, Weaver holed up on his land near Naples, Idaho.

On Aug. 21, 1992, a team of U.S. marshals scouting the forest to find suitable places to ambush and arrest Weaver came across his friend, Kevin Harris, and Weaver's 14-year-old son Samuel in the woods. A gunfight broke out. Samuel Weaver and Deputy U.S. Marshal William Degan were killed.
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The next day, an FBI sniper shot Randy Weaver. As Weaver, Harris and Sara ran back toward the house, the sniper fired a second bullet, which passed through Vicki Weaver's head as she held an infant and wounded Harris in the chest.
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Randy Weaver holds the door of his cabin showing holes from bullets fired during the 1992 siege of his Ruby Ridge, Idaho home during testimony before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Capitol Hill in Washington on Sept. 6, 1995. Joe Marquette/AP
During the siege, Sara Weaver crawled around her mother's blanket-covered body to get food and water for the survivors until the family surrendered on Aug. 31, 1992.

Harris and Randy Weaver were arrested, and Weaver's three daughters went to live with their mother's family in Iowa. Randy Weaver was acquitted of the most serious charges and Harris was acquitted of all charges.

The surviving members of the Weaver family filed a wrongful death lawsuit. The federal government awarded Randy Weaver a $100,000 settlement and his three daughters $1 million each in 1995.

"Ruby Ridge was the opening shot of a new era of anti-government hatred not seen since the Civil War," said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center in a 2012 interview on the 20th anniversary of the siege.

After Ruby Ridge, federal agents laid siege to the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas. It ended violently after 51 days on April 19, 1993, when a fire destroyed the compound after an assault was launched, killing 76 people.

Timothy McVeigh cited both Ruby Ridge and Waco as motivators when he bombed the federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995. Ruby Ridge has been cited often by militia and patriot groups since.

In the 30 years since the standoff, Ruby Ridge remained a rallying cry for anti-government extremists. The Spokesman-Review reported Weaver remained popular among white supremacists and extremists in the years following the standoff, and was often seen selling his book, "The Federal Siege at Ruby Ridge," at gun shows and survivalist expos.

Sara Weaver lives near Kalispell, Montana, a city in the northwestern part of the state that is the gateway to Glacier National Park and more than 100 miles (160 kilometers) east of Ruby Ridge.

Sara Weaver said she is devastated each time someone commits a violent act in the name of Ruby Ridge. "It killed me inside," she told The Associated Press in 2012, regarding the Oklahoma City bombing. "I knew what it was like to lose a family member in violence. I wouldn't wish that on anyone."

After graduating from high school in Iowa, Sara Weaver moved to the Kalispell area in 1996. Her sisters and father followed shortly after.

She has been back to Ruby Ridge, to the land her family still owns. All that remains of the family's modest home is the foundation, she said.
 
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That might be fun but I don't think it's what he wanted. Was he ever violent--in a criminal sense--before glowies started murdering his family?


The version I read said he didn't intend to show up, but it doesn't change the completely ridiculous actions taken by the government.

For those not familiar with the case, and I only have a surface understanding, Weaver did three things wrong:
  1. An ATF informant paid him to shorten a couple shotgun barrels and showed him where to make the cuts. These cuts were 1/4 inch shorter than allowed on normal shotguns, requiring registration and a $200 tax. Weaver didn't file the paperwork or pay the tax.
  2. He refused to be an informant against the Aryan Nations, a white separatist group he and his wife had visited several times. After that, he was charged with the offense in 1.
  3. He missed a court date, which might not have been his fault.
In response, the government deployed an armed task force against him that would make JSOC jealous. Snipers, overflights by military intelligence, remote listening devices, psyops, and the loosest rules of engagement you'll see outside Troops In Contact. All for a nonviolent offender. A guy who skipped some paperwork and didn't pay $400 in taxes.

After killing his kid, his wife, and his doggo, the FBI tried to cover up their culpability. The chief of the violent crimes section took the fall and was sentenced to 18 months (the same as Weaver's sentence). More of them should have been punished.
It's still never been cleared up if he actually cut the barrels down, allegedly he refused to before the sale and the ATF agent just did it anyways to have leverage over him.
 
the sniper fired a second bullet, which passed through Vicki Weaver's head as she held an infant and wounded Harris in the chest.
helped spark the growth of anti-government extremists
Any government that shoots a fleeing mother with an infant in her arms is unworthy of allegiance. Choke on a bag of dicks, journos and Feds.
"Ruby Ridge was the opening shot of a new era of anti-government hatred not seen since the Civil War," said Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center in a 2012 interview on the 20th anniversary of the siege.
"Government murders three people; government most affected".
 
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Any government that shoots a fleeing mother with an infant in her arms is unworthy of allegiance. Choke on a bag of dicks, journos and Feds.
I read the book a long time ago, but if I'm remembering correctly; when they put the sniper on the stand, he said he couldn't see her holding anything when he shot her through the door. But he had said previously, he saw her holding a child through the screen door or something like that. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was really fucking dirty.
 
I read the book a long time ago, but if I'm remembering correctly; when they put the sniper on the stand, he said he couldn't see her holding anything when he shot her through the door. But he had said previously, he saw her holding a child through the screen door or something like that. I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was really fucking dirty.
He took his shot without knowing his target, which is a massive fuckup on its own. If he hadn't been FBI, and instead been a local cop, it would have been career ending and probably a criminal charge. Same jackass was present at Waco as well, and he was involved in some fucky shit there too.
 
Kinda glossing pretty hard over the fact that the ATF fucked up (lol, it was on purpose) exactly the same way, ie they tried to ensnare Koresh in another retarded too-clever-to-work arrest scheme that was totally unnecessary. When that failed, they then seiged the church and eventually set it on fire, killing 76 people including 25 kids and two pregnant women.
Then the ATF posed for pictures with the charred, still smouldering skeletons of infants and children like they were big game trophies.
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Then they have the temerity to ask 'lol why u no trust gunberment?'
The local sheriff offered to arrest Koresh, but the feds wanted to play heroes after Ruby Ridge.

They're willing to immolate kids to protect kids from "gun violence".
 
But the feds wanted a spectacle and couldn't even fucking arrest a dude with a know pattern where he steps outside his "compound," and alone
iirc, the feds have done this multiple times. There was a guy in Montana the feds wanted and they had some almost Hollywood scheme to take him in.
  1. He missed a court date, which might not have been his fault.
Didn't one of the judges mention that there was no point in serving the warrant because he already removed himself from society?
 
A few more things, they changed his court date without telling him until after the new court date. He had every intention of showing up, but they fucked him over making him think he was losing everything.
The version I read said he didn't intend to show up, but it doesn't change the completely ridiculous actions taken by the government.
The Wikipedia article actually gets the story on this right, surprisingly. They moved his trial date from Feb 19 to Feb 20, but, the only notification to Weaver for which there is some confirmation he received, appears to have been a letter sent out by a probation officer stating the new date was actually March 20. After Weaver didn't show for Feb 20, the judge swore out a warrant for his arrest.

A few days afterward, an intrepid local reporter asked the probation fellas whether Weaver's nonattendance on Feb 20 wasn't in fact because he'd been told March 20 instead (EDIT: Which strongly, strongly suggests that he'd spoken to Weaver or Weaver's buds about it, but what was Weaver supposed to do about that? There was a warrant for his arrest out, even though it was illegitimate). They told the fucking judge about it, but that tyrant in black robes refused to withdraw the warrant. Instead the prosecutors and federal marshals went ahead in late Feb and early March with plans to attack Weaver, and a week before March 20 they lied to a grand jury (omitting the fact that he was told to appear on March 20 not Feb 20) to indict him for failure to appear.

Quite reasonably, after that step, Weaver didn't cooperate with the ZOG thugs who would just have arrested him immediately if he did show up for court on March 20.
 
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iirc, the feds have done this multiple times. There was a guy in Montana the feds wanted and they had some almost Hollywood scheme to take him in.
Big flashy shit gets your name in the news, which in turn helps you get more funding for your agency.

Edit; this isn't unique to the US by any means, government agencies world wide love to do flashy shit to justify their existence. Sometimes it's even useful, but mostly it distracts from the more mundane work that actually gets shit done.
 
Big flashy shit gets your name in the news, which in turn helps you get more funding for your agency.
Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM got made SAIC* without doing a flashy raid rather than having the local sheriff arrest some guy.

* or, given the original Waco attack was ATF, and Ruby Ridge was the Marshalls, whatever they have in place of SAIC's
 
Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM got made SAIC* without doing a flashy raid rather than having the local sheriff arrest some guy.

* or, given the original Waco attack was ATF, and Ruby Ridge was the Marshalls, whatever they have in place of SAIC's
Most major fuckups are the ATF, you don't see the Marshall's fucking up nearly as often, but most of their work is pretty mundane prisoner transport. The ATF has always had a "cowboy" reputation. Even other federal agencies think they're morons.
 
It's still never been cleared up if he actually cut the barrels down, allegedly he refused to before the sale and the ATF agent just did it anyways to have leverage over him.
Didn't the shotguns somehow vanish from evidence storage after the public shitstorm hit?

Also IIRC the fed in command was a relative of the deaded marshall, was the one to issue the snipers the shoot-on-sight order, was told by superiors to cancel it, but "forgot" to for several days.

Waco was a clown show from the very start, with choreographing le epic raid footage being the ATFs one and only concern. The feds were probably completely shocked when the cultists ACTUALLY started shooting lol.
 
The article leaves out some key points.

The FBI wanted Randy Weaver to infiltrate a local white supremacist group and he refused.
So the FBI concocted this goofy entrapment scheme where by an informant would buy two shotguns from Weaver and asked him to cut the barrels 1/4 inch below what was legal
Days later US marshalls hiding in bushes shot the family dog which caused the 14 year old to return fire killing the US marshal. The 14 year old son was killed by other US marshalls

The entire thing from start to finish was the bungling federal government.

Yeah the article is pure fucking garbage that omits massive amounts of facts.
There was a ton of bullshit involved with the entire thing. He received a letter in the mail to arrive to court on a specific date, turns out there was a clerical "error" on the date & the real date was much earlier. When he didn't show up, they automatically sentenced him in absentia.

Fuck that site.
 
It's still never been cleared up if he actually cut the barrels down, allegedly he refused to before the sale and the ATF agent just did it anyways to have leverage over him.
I had the word "allegedly" in there but it got lost in editing. I should have been more careful. He wasn't convicted so it's an unproven accusation.

Quite reasonably, after that step, Weaver didn't cooperate with the ZOG thugs who would just have arrested him immediately if he did show up for court on March 20.
Someone should have told him you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride.
 
Waco was a clown show from the very start, with choreographing le epic raid footage being the ATFs one and only concern. The feds were probably completely shocked when the cultists ACTUALLY started shooting lol.
The ATF literally drove up to their building while hanging out the windows and shooting without so much as a hello, I don't know what response they expected. The Branch Davidians were just some confused church people trying to keep their children from being murdered by a government that attacked them for seemingly no reason. If they had been out to stack Fed bodies high they would have and could have done so with ease. Whether or not that would have led to fewer of their kids being ultimately murdered by their government is a mystery for the ages. Instead they just tried to hold out, maybe hoping someone with a lick of sense that they could trust would show up to call off the apparently insane ATF that were surrounding them.

Instead the ATF sprayed machine gun fire through their buildings, rammed tanks into walls to make holes, injected CS gas inside, then set the whole place on fire and shot anyone that tried to escape. Fuck them.
 
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My dad lived in the same part of Montana and was a gunsmith and competitive shooter.he was always being asked to interact with the local militia types (both by the Feds and the state) and he always refused. His will had a big list of people who were not allowed to buy any of his gun-related stuff after he died.
 
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