Culture 'Rape is rarely violent and doesn't merit a jail term'-Germaine Greer - Yes that Germaine Greer!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...doesnt-merit-jail-term-claims-germaine-greer/

Rape is rarely a violent crime and should be punishable by 200 hours of community service, Germaine Greer has suggested, as she poured scorn on the idea that victims are left with post traumatic stress disorder.

The feminist said the system must be overhauled because few cases that hinge on consent end in a conviction. She joked that the most suitable punishment would be for rapists to have an “R” tattooed on their hand or cheek.

Greer was the victim of a rape when she was in her late teens – a violent attack in which she was repeatedly beaten.

But she told an audience at the Hay Festival: “Most rapes don’t involve any injury whatsoever. We are told it’s one of the most violent crimes in the world – bull----. Most rape is just lazy, just careless, just insensitive. Every time a man rolls over on his exhausted wife and insists on enjoying his conjugal right, he is raping her. It will never end up in a court of law.”

Most rapes don’t involve any injury whatsoever. We are told it’s one of the most violent crimes in the world – bull----Germaine Greer
She went on: “Instead of thinking of rape as a spectacularly violent crime – and some rapes are – think about it as non-consensual, that is, bad sex.


“Sex where there is no communication, no tenderness, no mention of love. We used to talk about lovemaking.” Greer claimed “the official position now is that 70 per cent of rape victims suffer PTSD and only 20 per cent of veterans”.

She added: “At this point you think, what the hell are you saying? That something that leaves no sign, no injury, nothing, is more damaging to women than seeing your best friend blown up by an IED is to a veteran?”

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The 2018 Hay festival take place at Hay on Wye, Powys, Wales CREDIT: ALED LLYWELYN
She argued that we should stop “pathologising” rape and saying that it destroys women’s lives. “We haven’t been destroyed, we’ve been bloody annoyed, is what we’ve been. I reckon 200 hours of community service will do – would do me. I suggested a long time ago that maybe a little tattoo would be a good thing. Maybe an ‘R’ on your hand. I’d prefer it on your cheek.”

It was “mad” that rape sentences could be heavier than those for attempted murder, she said, adding that “rape isn’t carried out by a specific group of criminals – a lot of it happens almost by accident”. But she explained: “In case you’re wondering whether with my apparently flippant attitude I actually have any understanding of the gravity of the crime of rape, I was violently raped days before my 19th birthday. I was beaten half-unconscious.

“I was found wandering in the street very confused and rescued, thank God, because the people in the car were a man and a woman. If there had been four men in that car I don’t think you would have heard of me again.”


The issue of consent should be removed from prosecutions, Greer said, and some cases could be treated as grievous bodily harm – a crime that carries a lighter sentence and would therefore not prove so off-putting to juries. “Where it’s his word against hers and the penalty is seven years or something, juries won’t convict,” she said.

The #MeToo movement would have little effect, Greer suggested, and she believed Harvey Weinstein’s accusers would be picked apart in court.

“Everybody thinks that the #MeToo generation is going to make such a big difference. It will be extraordinary if it makes any difference at all. Because they are still going to have to argue the issue of consent,” she said.

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Germaine Greer has already earned the emnity of troons and SJWs, now I wonder if she's doing it on purpose...
 
Your orifices were warned ahead of time and should have jumped out of the way.


I guess he just didn't think it was a violent enough crime. It's not like the poor lady was being murdered.

I think that this whole thing is some bizarre issue stemming from her feelings about her own rape.



So, "I was violently raped and beaten. Thank God the people that found me weren't all men or my dead body would have been thrown into a ravine the next morning. But rape isn't a violent crime and rapists just need to pick up some trash by the side of the road until they learn not to be bad boys and keep their penises to themselves until someone asks to see them."

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I think you are right, I've encountered this with women who were raped and prefer not to think of it the way most rape victims do. Most of them were totally insane since the rape but refused to entertain that there may be a connection. For all the problems that come with being too eager to call yourself a victim when you're not, it's worth remembering that there are a lot of problems with refusing to admit being a victim of a crime when you genuinely were. Reality has to be acknowledged before it can be coped with.
 
I've always knew today's feminists tend to trivialize rape, but this is taking it to a while new level!
Germaine's more a 2nd wave feminist than a 3rd wave feminist because 3rd wave hate her guts.

I know this because I had to read her writing in a hyper-liberal college theory class, with one of the paragraphs stating that masculinity is inherently evil and should be abolished. I was the only person in that class to openly dispute how ridiculous that is.
 
Germaine's more a 2nd wave feminist than a 3rd wave feminist because 3rd wave hate her guts.

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I personally think that some of her views have intellectual merit and should be discussed (like her writing about the jump of MTF and them doing genital surgery, and how it wouldn't be so obvious and as many people joining the bandwagon if it were instead having ovaries implanted instead of penises cut off, bringing to mind the idea of women seen as men missing something rather than their own being [and in fact is part of Freud's theory of the penis envy, but in a different light]), but it doesn't mean they're immediately right or wrong. aka, valid but maybe not correct.

Also after reading this I'm so lost on what third-wave feminism is. I thought it was to combat the double standard of men being able to sleep around and seen as a positive while women weren't (which in itself is somewhat complicated due to other factors). But now after reading other stuff and how apparently 3rd wave is about trannies and stuff, and how sex work is empowering? Like, ffs, stop.
 
Rape isn't bad because it "taints the pure woman from her man, or future man" or some stupid shit, it's bad because it removes a persons right to bodily autonomy. You might as well be removing someones free will. I don't see why people believe that rape is worse depending on how it was performed or the sexes involved.

Non-violent drug rape is just as bad as beating someone up and disabling them because you can at least try to defend yourself in the latter, but you can't do anything at all if you are drugged.

I would go further, but if I were to deconstruct all of her other shitty beliefs it would take me a hour.

Well, she's wrong.

She heard a friend being raped in an adjacent room and did nothing. Something is very wrong with her.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if she gets off on it.
 
Are we talking abour real rape, or "I was slightly tipsy and it was not satisfying" type, because feminists see the latter as rape as well.

Violent rape is all bad, but today everything gets screamed at for being rape, even Trump talking about grabbing some puss-puss!

If you like your higher brain functions, don't willingly(roofie doesn't count as willing, don't worry Kiwis) take drugs and don't get wasted.

If you smoked some crack, drank a bottle of whiskey and got bred by a chad because when you were high you thought it was the best idea ever, its all on you.
 
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"But she told an audience at the Hay Festival: “Most rapes don’t involve any injury whatsoever. We are told it’s one of the most violent crimes in the world – bull----. Most rape is just lazy, just careless, just insensitive. Every time a man rolls over on his exhausted wife and insists on enjoying his conjugal right, he is raping her. It will never end up in a court of law.”


She's essentially taking the mindset of "every uncomfortable sexual encounter is rape" to its logical conclusion really. A one night stand who doesn't ask permission for every single thing he does. A randy husband trying to convince his wife to get in the mood. A shy virgin's boundaries getting pushed a bit during her first time. All of this is being labeled as rape has cheapened the word. Rape simply means "bad sex" now apparently. So we can now safely call all men rapists if we want, but it won't actually have an consequences anymore since really rape isn't so bad.

Fuck this timeline man.
 
As near as I've been able to tell, Atheism+ was just third-wave feminism with a new coat of paint. I don't know where it started out in theory, but now, in fact, it's basically the "muh vagina" portion of the intersectional rats' nest.
gdi, it started out as what I said, which devolved into "muh sex-positive", and from there I don't know where it went. *sigh* I feel old...
 
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Wait where are these growing Nazi incel rape gangs coming from? First I've heard of them.

I think Greer is just willing to say whatever to get in the news really. She could've said "If all sex is now considered virtually rape, then rape isn't that bad really" as a joke commentary on things. But I think she just wanted to stir the pot.

Whenever people say these sorts of things, the first thing I wonder is "what are they getting out of it?"

She's essentially taking the mindset of "every uncomfortable sexual encounter is rape" to its logical conclusion really. A one night stand who doesn't ask permission for every single thing he does. A randy husband trying to convince his wife to get in the mood. A shy virgin's boundaries getting pushed a bit during her first time. All of this is being labeled as rape has cheapened the word. Rape simply means "bad sex" now apparently. So we can now safely call all men rapists if we want, but it won't actually have an consequences anymore since really rape isn't so bad.

Fuck this timeline man.

Maybe it's why you see feminists convert to Islam. If everything is rape, and women are an oppressed class with no end in sight as long as men exist, then why not exemplify the female struggle?
 
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