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Davo is still salty about the twitter thing.
Infected RationalWiki - Whiny hugbox for spergs and a clusterfuck of neverending drama on a rapidly declining website.
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Tootsie Bear
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I agree. Every article I go to on their website is not only poorly written but come across as it was written by someone who's very immature. Sucks because the website could be very useful for people like myself who are skeptics and need a site that could document pseudoscience and what not.
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It's still mildly good on subjects that were covered early in the site's existence before the shitbirds currently ruling it shat all over everything.
It's never been good in the sense that Wikipedia is, though, i.e. that when the dust settles after a conflict, on a subject that has had legitimate media coverage, the resulting article is actually half-decent most of the time. RW basically scrapped the Wikipedia rules nearly as soon as it started existing, and started embodying the same vices as the Conservapedia it mocked.
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There's clearly a niche, or two they could be filling, but they are too incompetent. By design, they don't care what is true. What matters is what the community (typically the most unhinged and zealous members) think is true on any given topic. As such anyone can claim nearly anything in most subjects, as long as it passes a superficial sniffing test. And narrowly ideologically heated subjects are completely controlled by agendapushers who also make sure they bully everyone away that appears to be critical of what they're doing. Narrow ideological means that they are not merely generic liberals or leftists, that would be fine by me, as they would like to pretend. They act in the interest of a tiny corner within atheism-skepcism that also once launched Atheism Plus. Hence, they aggressively push views that are prevalent in that tiny corner, which you can see in their blind hatred of various YouTubers or atheist-skeptic bigwigs. That's also why nobody "in the know" takes them seriously and they rely entirely on Google and their little cult of supporters.
The agendapushing is visible in the bigger things or in drama, but also in little things. Take characters like Laci Green versus Thunderf00t. Two YouTubers, one is pushing pseudo-science rubbish, the other is doing classic scepticism and recently debunks e.g. pseudoscience crowdsource scams. If you believe the mission statement and the general appearance of the RationalWiki, it should be clear where they would stand on them. But of course, it's a Big Lie.
Laci Green believes such things as "gender and sex are socially constructed" (biological sex!) and with 1,492,762 has more than twice as many subscribers as Thunderf00t, and yet the RationalWikians love her, and hate the other. The reason has nothing to do with what they write on the tin. Thunderf00t is an enemy since he broke off from Freethought Blogs, and then he *gasp* criticized Aneeda.
Hence RationalWiki points out how Laci Green hates Donald Trump, because they know mentioning this signalizes that she's one of the tribe. You're supposed to like her. But Laci Green didn't deal much with Trump. Thunderf00t has a much smaller channel, does not work for a corporate entity like MTV and is more the sceptic underdog, who actually has involved himself in Anti-Brexit and Anti-Trump debate. Would they mention the Anti-Trump part prominently? Of course not. They go with a typical propagandistic variant and write …
"Thunderf00t's acceptance of basic economic facts made him the less loony debater. As a response, a large amount of [Sargon's] supporters flooded Thunderf00t's channel with dislikes and comments supporting Donald Trump. He has done almost as many videos on Brexit in a short period of time as he has done on Anita Sarkeesian in the past. Maybe he will get obsessive about a worthy topic for once"
… which is a vehicle to also characterize another enemy (Sargon) as a Trump supporter — also a dubious halftruth — and manage to characterize Thunderf00t as obsessive towards Sarkeesian in the same go, and who is "less loony". That's generally how their propaganda work, and it's all over the place. If not outright lying, they are famous for such tendenious reporting, and also typically hide and ignore things they don't find useful for their agenda, if they can.
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Yeah it's a mystery that rational people with sane views aren't falling all over themselves to correct articles about Laci Green and fucking thunderfoot.
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They are doing moderator elections now. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Moderator_elections/Campaigning
Some of the chuckleheads we have seen before are trying to run, notably Hipocrite (Ryulong's crony, who is trying to cast aspersions on other candidates), @FuzzyCuck (of course), and Mona's nightmare Avengerofthe BoN.
Some of the chuckleheads we have seen before are trying to run, notably Hipocrite (Ryulong's crony, who is trying to cast aspersions on other candidates), @FuzzyCuck (of course), and Mona's nightmare Avengerofthe BoN.
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The Gang has a new member called Cripdyke with some exciting potential. Expect greatness. Cripdyke will join David Gerard, Queex, Hipocrite, Kitsunelaine, Ikanreed, Typhoon and so on in the Eternal Battle against reality xirself. Cripdyke achieved some fame through “Gender Workshops” co-blogged at Pharyngula — at the side of Meister Peezus Myers himself. What a total surprise!
There are numerous (20+) re-education Gender Workshops already and I guess they are not all postmodernist balderdash. A random sample:
Obviously. Philosophy has family resemblance, cognitive scientist know prototypes and graded categories, linguists will point out that definitions are descriptive and work as a pointer (not even trying to capture everything), the difference between naming and knowing, and so on. The workshop's purpose is obviously to make participants just as confused as Cripdyke.
It's probably premature to rent another corn silo and keep the fry hot for ready popcorn, but that's exactly the direction a “RationalWiki” needs to move. Hopefully, Crip brings gender workshop friends, or just generally more Hordelets. That would be superb!
There are numerous (20+) re-education Gender Workshops already and I guess they are not all postmodernist balderdash. A random sample:
It's the usual mix of trivially true (a cigar is sometimes just a cigar) and mindboggling hogwash. Nobody goes by gender definitions, and it also contradicts their own leading thinkers like Judith Butler who say, as far as intellible, it's performance that depends on context, time and place and is reinforced by imitation (i.e. those who feel womanly copy what they think is womanly, which meant something different in 1896 than in 1969) — and that scatches only the surface. There is endless more, another random stab:Cripdyke said:
Cripdyke said:
Obviously. Philosophy has family resemblance, cognitive scientist know prototypes and graded categories, linguists will point out that definitions are descriptive and work as a pointer (not even trying to capture everything), the difference between naming and knowing, and so on. The workshop's purpose is obviously to make participants just as confused as Cripdyke.
It's probably premature to rent another corn silo and keep the fry hot for ready popcorn, but that's exactly the direction a “RationalWiki” needs to move. Hopefully, Crip brings gender workshop friends, or just generally more Hordelets. That would be superb!
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Ah, Hipocrite. He's one of my favorite of the gater goofers. He actually had another prominent identity that he used during that affair:
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I assume from the name they are a crippled dyke, and therefore unassailably wise in all things, excellent move for the rat crew.
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Confirmed not GethN7 of ATT and otherwise.
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I don't know much about this guy here, but he looks adorably appealing.
Edit: Then again all mod here are idiots.
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Generally, yes, though SJWs in atheist-skepticism are a bit different than the Shaksville and Tumblr snowflakes, though there is overlap. Their weapon of choice is less winning oppression olympics, but more about guilty by association, smearing, emotional manipulation and metadiscourse. They'll typically single someone out and then work with in-group and out-group (currently, Aeonian, nobs and perhaps two more are good candidates). Crip will try to fit in, then join a few dogpiles against those already marked as annoyingly different. It's a bit sad they lost such remarkable and prolific individuals like Ryulong who did fit in perfectly. As a compassionate fan I am on the verge of helping them win a few more such people, I guess Fuzzy will appreciate the support.
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We should pretend to be Russian KF users for the double whammy.
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lol i forget these clowns even existed but now that you've reminded me let's rig their elections lmao
i'll reach out to my friends in the GRU they have experience with this kind of thing
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While he was obtaining his BA in Economics, Hipocrite staged a protest where he wrote anti-police messages in response to prior anti-police chalkings being erased. This, his stance on publicly exposing a researcher for anonymous sockpuppeting, and his stance on bullying a loony woman on the Internet are enough reasons to get my votes.
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The RationalWiki is currently improving their Nazi edgelord anti-semitic profile in two ways. Here's the first.
Levi Ackerman is now an ex-user. He outragously tried to post a Huffington Post "news" into RationalWiki's WIGO (what's going on in the world), erroneously sticking to the rules, which currently posit:
The article in question starts out with a Twitter spat, but evolves into an ordinary Huffington Post news article with a bit of scrolling. Should be good, shouldn't it? It is also literally filed at Huffington Post under news. Though you can split hairs, it is certainly not outrageously wrong in that section, even under the currently established rules. Wait, what?
They changed the rules mid-argument, but incompetent being incompetent failed to change them properly.
When Levi Ackerman first posted this Huffington Post news item, and when Weaseloid started edit-warring, there were other rules in place, that gave even more leeway. The rules then stated, that only blogs, editorials and comments would go into the blogs section. But Weaseloid, and then other usual suspects didn't like some argument over Israel settlements and mentioning Auschwitz in this more credible section, hence moved it. Levi Ackerman disputed the move, had to deal -- business as usual -- with a mob of agendapushers and increasingly irritated eventually rage quit. In other words, RationalWiki as usual.
Below you see Levi's post with 5 upvotes already, the headline with the conspicuous word "news" right above the headline plus the revision where it started.
Uh-oh Auschwitz? Holocaust? Something with Israel?
Here's the other book end, where Levi mentions how they also changed the rules mid-way ...
In between it devolved into a log line edit war between Levi and the others about rules, and sticking to them. Levi was correct before the rule change, and he was still correct after it. But why would anyone go through such lengths anyway to prevent this article to be posted there? Wouldn't normally functioning people simply let it go? Though the RationalWikians have a history of lying by omission, and gerrymandering "rules" to fit exactly what the agendapushers like.
Harrassing unwanted users (say, with jewish sounding names) with pointless reverts, and then pretending it's all legit is also a splendid example how the RationalWiki works. Once they have the Problem User riled up enough, they usually take advantage of it with one-sided policing, with the goal of bullying the individual away.
In the end, Levi Ackerman had it enough and requested to be deleted. Note also the typical trick that somehow Levi was "baiting other users", well of course, he is the Problem User. It's never the Usual Suspects.
Levi Ackerman is now an ex-user. He outragously tried to post a Huffington Post "news" into RationalWiki's WIGO (what's going on in the world), erroneously sticking to the rules, which currently posit:
WIGO Rules said:Please restrict entries to news stories from news sites (if you read about it on a blog then find an original report). Commentaries and editorials go in WIGO:Blogs, as do blogs, YouTube videos, social media posts, and articles about any these. Crazy commentaries, editorials, blogs, videos and social media items go in WIGOlogs.
The article in question starts out with a Twitter spat, but evolves into an ordinary Huffington Post news article with a bit of scrolling. Should be good, shouldn't it? It is also literally filed at Huffington Post under news. Though you can split hairs, it is certainly not outrageously wrong in that section, even under the currently established rules. Wait, what?
They changed the rules mid-argument, but incompetent being incompetent failed to change them properly.
When Levi Ackerman first posted this Huffington Post news item, and when Weaseloid started edit-warring, there were other rules in place, that gave even more leeway. The rules then stated, that only blogs, editorials and comments would go into the blogs section. But Weaseloid, and then other usual suspects didn't like some argument over Israel settlements and mentioning Auschwitz in this more credible section, hence moved it. Levi Ackerman disputed the move, had to deal -- business as usual -- with a mob of agendapushers and increasingly irritated eventually rage quit. In other words, RationalWiki as usual.
Below you see Levi's post with 5 upvotes already, the headline with the conspicuous word "news" right above the headline plus the revision where it started.
Uh-oh Auschwitz? Holocaust? Something with Israel?
Here's the other book end, where Levi mentions how they also changed the rules mid-way ...
Revision said:
In between it devolved into a log line edit war between Levi and the others about rules, and sticking to them. Levi was correct before the rule change, and he was still correct after it. But why would anyone go through such lengths anyway to prevent this article to be posted there? Wouldn't normally functioning people simply let it go? Though the RationalWikians have a history of lying by omission, and gerrymandering "rules" to fit exactly what the agendapushers like.
Harrassing unwanted users (say, with jewish sounding names) with pointless reverts, and then pretending it's all legit is also a splendid example how the RationalWiki works. Once they have the Problem User riled up enough, they usually take advantage of it with one-sided policing, with the goal of bullying the individual away.
In the end, Levi Ackerman had it enough and requested to be deleted. Note also the typical trick that somehow Levi was "baiting other users", well of course, he is the Problem User. It's never the Usual Suspects.
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The mod election is in, and it again has to do with anti-semitism.
Shocked that a Jew might become a moderator, the goyim decided that the election was certainly rigged. Of course, they are correct, since the RationalWikians hate jews. Though they have only themselves to blame. This was preventable, had Ikanreed and Reverend Black Percy (two mods and RMF board members) activated their friend Castaigne, who could have assisted them to find a solution to the ongoing problem. After all, Castaigne has relevant expertise ...
I'm not up to date what happened to him, though you can look up that current mods and board members were cozy with him, despite that he was not only a self-described -- eh -- conservative, but also the RationalWiki's internet tough guy.
Now onto the moderator election
It's a full page, go here for more. To which Avenger replies:
Again, there's more where editors rationalize why they won't accept this result, or complain for example that votes were made public. Bottom line, they appear to have no idea what went wrong, but still can't accept the result, of course, being generally anti-semitic. Incompetent being incompetent they are also somehow unable to remove Problem Users, hence they typically help themselves with bullying. Of course, sometimes Problem Users are really problem users, but then you should be able to have some solid method to deal with them. But that would make things accountable and transparent, and Gerard and Gang could not exploit the system as much anymore.
How hard would it be, to simply state that the RationalWiki is anti-zionistic, or anti-semitic, or pro-palestine or something, problem solved. But that would also mean that their position can be nailed down and cited, which they generally want to avoid.
Shocked that a Jew might become a moderator, the goyim decided that the election was certainly rigged. Of course, they are correct, since the RationalWikians hate jews. Though they have only themselves to blame. This was preventable, had Ikanreed and Reverend Black Percy (two mods and RMF board members) activated their friend Castaigne, who could have assisted them to find a solution to the ongoing problem. After all, Castaigne has relevant expertise ...
I'm not up to date what happened to him, though you can look up that current mods and board members were cozy with him, despite that he was not only a self-described -- eh -- conservative, but also the RationalWiki's internet tough guy.
Now onto the moderator election
Vote Results said:
It's a full page, go here for more. To which Avenger replies:
Again, there's more where editors rationalize why they won't accept this result, or complain for example that votes were made public. Bottom line, they appear to have no idea what went wrong, but still can't accept the result, of course, being generally anti-semitic. Incompetent being incompetent they are also somehow unable to remove Problem Users, hence they typically help themselves with bullying. Of course, sometimes Problem Users are really problem users, but then you should be able to have some solid method to deal with them. But that would make things accountable and transparent, and Gerard and Gang could not exploit the system as much anymore.
How hard would it be, to simply state that the RationalWiki is anti-zionistic, or anti-semitic, or pro-palestine or something, problem solved. But that would also mean that their position can be nailed down and cited, which they generally want to avoid.
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Been there before, the site is awful and most of the 'articles' sound like they were written by 13 year old Reddit trolls, basically just Conservapedia's eviler twin.
I think the community may be even more deranged than Wikipedia, because not only are the autism levels over 9000, but you have autism combined with 'social justice' fanaticism and lunatics who think they're 'contributing to human progress' by disproving Flat Earthers and 'explaining how anti-science' GMO critics are'.
It's like combining autism and Islamism into one horrifying package.
That and the site has devolved from a site refuting religious fundamentalism and junk science, to basically just a radical left version of Encyclopedia Dramatica dedicated to writing hitpieces on anyone on the internet they think is "ableist, transphobic, racist, blahblahblah"; they've even allowed a few 'pedophile rights activists' to contribute to that shithole, one of whom started an even more psychotic website "SJWiki".
I think the community may be even more deranged than Wikipedia, because not only are the autism levels over 9000, but you have autism combined with 'social justice' fanaticism and lunatics who think they're 'contributing to human progress' by disproving Flat Earthers and 'explaining how anti-science' GMO critics are'.
It's like combining autism and Islamism into one horrifying package.
That and the site has devolved from a site refuting religious fundamentalism and junk science, to basically just a radical left version of Encyclopedia Dramatica dedicated to writing hitpieces on anyone on the internet they think is "ableist, transphobic, racist, blahblahblah"; they've even allowed a few 'pedophile rights activists' to contribute to that shithole, one of whom started an even more psychotic website "SJWiki".