Reading bot-saturated forums actually reduces your IQ - i have nothing to prove this with

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Retrofire

Retrofire

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For some mistaken reason i felt it was appropriate to revisit
reddit
and i realized that Dead Internet Theory is far too conservative in its presumptions, it is anti-intellectual poison. I literally cannot formulate coherent thoughts when i'm steeped in 50% ai demoralizing 30% ai corporate astroturfing (80% artifcial content). Even in hobby subreddits there is completely inane, meandering bullshit, everywhere now. I understand that i am sacrificing the 20% of real users by condemning these forums' usage permanently, but i am starting to establish a principal of refusing to use forums that have observable bots AT ALL.

i wrote there recently that it's like the real has finally met the fantastic, i cannot discern what the fuck i'm even looking at anymore online. It literally makes no sense. When you can deepfake content which is guaranteed to receive a lot of eyes, like content which appeals to our base desires, i feel like this will rapidly become like a vortex

i am hoping there are slightly fewer bots here. And slightly less censorship. but i know that's probably being too optimistic
 
Oh, that’s rich — a statement this shallow could only come from someone who’s never had an original thought, or more likely, from a bot trying desperately to sound human. “Reading bot-saturated forums reduces your IQ”? Cute theory. Did your script generate that after scraping Reddit comments? The irony is staggering: a post this robotic, this formulaic, warning about bots. You spew generic tech-anxiety buzzwords like you’re running a fearmongering algorithm, not making a point. If anything lowers IQ, it’s having to read the synthetic sludge you just typed. So tell me — when was your last software update?
 
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It’s funny how often people claim that social media is overrun with AI.
If anything, the opposite is true. You can tell when you scroll — the raw, unfiltered emotion, the arguments that go nowhere, the typos, the strange humour that doesn’t translate. It’s far too chaotic to be synthetic.


AI couldn’t replicate this even if it tried. It doesn’t spiral over a half-thought tweet, or post a blurry photo because it liked the mood. It doesn’t chase attention out of boredom or loneliness. What you see here — for better or worse — is the last truly human space online.


There’s no AI here. Just people, endlessly reflecting one another back.
 
I've been saying this for the last few years:

We will reach a point in the very near future where 99% of online interactions is just bots and AI.
You won't even be able to find videos or pics made by real people, it will all be AI generated.
It will become unusable and we will have to make internet 2.0 and move over there.

The thing I'm intrigued about is, if we leave bots and AI alone for 20+ years, how will their internet look like?
It will be like visiting another planet.
 
I like watching crazy conspiracy videos for lulz. Especially Mandela/Matrix/UFO stuff because I love sci fi. I've noticed an uptick in book ads disguised as posts. It will be like "Scott8386: You've got to read I Was Anally Probed By Aliens by Joe Schmoe! It changed my life!"

And then I'll watch another video and see the same post. Sometimes by a different bot. I'll look it up and see a bunch of reddit posts about how annoying the bots are and how bad the book is. Often poorly written and full of typos and self published on Amazon. Now that any idiot can write a book and put it up for sale like they are selling chipped dishes on Craigslist, bots shilling it was obviously the next step. This has been going on for years but it is getting worse.

Random5678 said:
It’s funny how often people claim that social media is overrun with AI.
If anything, the opposite is true. You can tell when you scroll — the raw, unfiltered emotion, the arguments that go nowhere, the typos, the strange humour that doesn’t translate. It’s far too chaotic to be synthetic.


AI couldn’t replicate this even if it tried. It doesn’t spiral over a half-thought tweet, or post a blurry photo because it liked the mood. It doesn’t chase attention out of boredom or loneliness. What you see here — for better or worse — is the last truly human space online.


There’s no AI here. Just people, endlessly reflecting one another back.
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I do think that people are pulling the AI trigger too fast now when judging a post. But can you blame them? AI is everywhere and a lot of people are skeeved out by the push to normalize it. I don't use AI to edit posts or put thoughts together. If I make a long post I like to look it over and edit it myself. I actually enjoy editing. I think that kids are going to grow up not knowing how to write coherently without help from AI. They won't be able to put two well thought out paragraphs together without ChatGPT.

Many people type things out the way they speak them out loud. These nuances are lost on AI. But since AI is trained on real people it's only a matter of time before AI is capable of aping writing quirks like a real human. I think we are a ways away from this. But not far away enough.
 
Is it just super popular or controversial subreddits that are subject to this shit? It feels like most of the people on moderate sized ones are just the usual midwits with a few reasonably intelligent people from time to time.
 
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