Ready or Not - The 2nd video game to let you flash bang a small child

[JongleJingle]

Been hearing some good things about this game, and from what I've seen from gameplay it looks fun too; I'll nab it on Christmas and give it a whirl, then give my thoughts after a while. Having loved SWAT 4, I do hope the claims that this is SWAT 5 in spirit and quality are true.

 

[Peasant]

PROTIP: The pepper ball gun is presently bugged and has unlimited ammo. Have fun hosing down everyone on the map with it while you can.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

Been hearing some good things about this game, and from what I've seen from gameplay it looks fun too; I'll nab it on Christmas and give it a whirl, then give my thoughts after a while. Having loved SWAT 4, I do hope the claims that this is SWAT 5 in spirit and quality are true.

Its swat 5 in spirit but currently its still lacking in quality , it looks and plays great but it still needs more updates before its "SWAT 5" material , personally id try a crack before buying , thats what i did , and that will give you a good idea of how single player is.

 

[Jewthulhu]

Its swat 5 in spirit but currently its still lacking in quality , it looks and plays great but it still needs more updates before its "SWAT 5" material , personally id try a crack before buying , thats what i did , and that will give you a good idea of how single player is.

It's honestly a little too faithful to SWAT 4. They kept in some of the AI jank.
I am hopeful that the rough parts gets sorted out though. According to the devs it's still in an early beta state.

 

[JongleJingle]

Its swat 5 in spirit but currently its still lacking in quality , it looks and plays great but it still needs more updates before its "SWAT 5" material , personally id try a crack before buying , thats what i did , and that will give you a good idea of how single player is.

Thing is, I'm not going for singleplayer, I'm gonna be with some buddies who already have the game.

It's honestly a little too faithful to SWAT 4. They kept in some of the AI jank.
I am hopeful that the rough parts gets sorted out though. According to the devs it's still in an early beta state.

I have seen the AI glitches (Literal bullet timer reactions from perps), but the devs said AI fixs were their top priority, so it's nice that the devs know how to prioritize.

 

[Peasant]

I have seen the AI glitches (Literal bullet timer reactions from perps), but the devs said AI fixs were their top priority, so it's nice that the devs know how to prioritize.

Yeah, if your first contact with an armed suspect isn't a stinger grenade to the face, then you're asking for a bullet much of the time. I don't trust CS gas, either; was about to arrest a guy choking like he was dying and he still drew on me.

 

[Jewthulhu]

I also ran across suspects whos pathfinding while "fleeing" takes them right past me, civilians who won't surrender even after getting smacked in the face with my rifle, and of course the AI teammates have a fetish for standing in the doorways of narrow rooms and can't always figure out how to breach properly. As I joked, it's all very similar to how the AI was in SWAT 4. I am hoping they update the AI a lot because I was hoping for something a little more realistic; or at least less janky.

 

[MuhCree]

Just as a heads up, there is infact a modding community already. Some people are already making replacers that change uniform patterns and the like. Some are even porting the voices from Swat 4 into the game. A good sign that developers are openly welcoming it. Steam Workshop is planned at a later date but its a good start.

 

[Book Thief]

Kotaku compares this game having a school shooting mission to the likes of No Russian. Because a game in which you play as a cop trying to defuse a bad situation is exactly the same as one where you play as an undercover agent committing a war crime in an airport.

 

[BrokenWokenBespoken]

Kotaku compares this game having a school shooting mission to the likes of No Russian. Because a game in which you play as a cop trying to defuse a bad situation is exactly the same as one where you play as an undercover agent committing a war crime in an airport.

I mean it's not a bad comparison, it's a psychologically wracking mission that only the ballsiest publisher will allow if they want funding. It's like the Fairfax Residence in SWAT 4 where the perp isnt the biggest threat. But these types of scenario are not safe for investor money these days as Activision and Infinity Waed is the only bastion of AAA gaming with balls and even that is crumbling.

They also did an article on SWAT 4's Fairfax Residence that was nuked here explaining the design of Fairfax Residence. Truly a lost art.

 

[Jewthulhu]

Kotaku compares this game having a school shooting mission to the likes of No Russian. Because a game in which you play as a cop trying to defuse a bad situation is exactly the same as one where you play as an undercover agent committing a war crime in an airport.

There's already a "demo" of the mass shooter gamemode in the gas station mission. AFAIK, there's no way to get a good score on the mission. You lose points for every civilian killed, and while you can take out the first shooter basically right off the bat (he's pretty much right at the front door), the second shooter spawns on the other side of the building and starts shooting before you can even get close. By the time you've taken him down he's amassed a decent body count and the rest of the mission is rounding up scared survivors and counting bodies.

It's part of the reason why I want the issues with the AI (and voice acting) ironed out. It's such a good platform to show how intense the job actually is, and how hard it is to handle such a complex situation absolutely perfectly. But every time the AI does something stupid or a VA delivers a stupid or out of place line it pulls you out of it.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

Kotaku compares this game having a school shooting mission to the likes of No Russian. Because a game in which you play as a cop trying to defuse a bad situation is exactly the same as one where you play as an undercover agent committing a war crime in an airport.

Surprisingly a ok article , but the stats from every town took its quailty down ten fold.

It's part of the reason why I want the issues with the AI (and voice acting) ironed out. It's such a good platform to show how intense the job actually is, and how hard it is to handle such a complex situation absolutely perfectly. But every time the AI does something stupid or a VA delivers a stupid or out of place line it pulls you out of it.

AI is really the biggest issue right now , i keep seeing clips of ai doing near 180 turns and head shoting cops in less than a second.

As for the school shooting mission , i find the idea interesting but im worried it might be incredibly boring, im really curious what shooting it will be modeled after , im guessing either generic school shooting or parkland , maybe columbine.

 

[MuhCree]

Can Kotaku tell me how one de-escalates a school shooting without guns? Do I strap a social worker to a stick and hope that works?

 

[Peasant]

Can Kotaku tell me how one de-escalates a school shooting without guns? Do I strap a social worker to a stick and hope that works?

To Kotaku, perhaps the most offensive thing about this game is that it partially demonstrates how much it sucks to be a police officer in a high stakes situation, and how there are no clean solutions to violence.

 

[BrokenWokenBespoken]

Can Kotaku tell me how one de-escalates a school shooting without guns? Do I strap a social worker to a stick and hope that works?
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In that context the reality is that zero tolerance means only nuclear options are available. SWAT teams only job is to bring the case to a bloody close as we count our dead.

 

[Keystone]

Can Kotaku tell me how one de-escalates a school shooting without guns? Do I strap a social worker to a stick and hope that works?
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Faggot who wrote that is probably another sheltered person who doesn't realize that when you call 911 you're calling a guy with a gun to solve your shit for you.

 

[Jewthulhu]

Faggot who wrote that is probably another sheltered person who doesn't realize that when you call 911 you're calling a guy with a gun to solve your shit for you.

Those types of people unironically think that cops should try to get close and wrestle a guy with a weapon and that tasers are a viable alternative to a gun.

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

Visually good, but I’ll probably still just stick to SWAT 4 with mods or some good old Rogue Spear to scratch that tactical infiltration shooter itch unless this is really able to make itself stand out, hold a decently sized player base and prove it’s not just going to be another forever-early-access-pls-gib-your-money-we-really-need-that-money-give-us-that-money-lolsurprise!-we’re-adding-a-tranny-operator-and-prosthetic-tactical-phallus-lootboxes kinda game.

 

[iceteayo]

Visually good, but I’ll probably still just stick to SWAT 4 with mods or some good old Rogue Spear to scratch that tactical infiltration shooter itch unless this is really able to make itself stand out, hold a decently sized player base and prove it’s not just going to be another forever-early-access-pls-gib-your-money-we-really-need-that-money-give-us-that-money-lolsurprise!-we’re-adding-a-tranny-operator-and-prosthetic-tactical-phallus-lootboxes kinda game.

It’s good but I kinda agree we get so much milsim shooters in the indie scene right now it’s get kinda boring. It’s just people trying to sell you on the old days.

 

[Cheese-Loving Citizen]

Visually good, but I’ll probably still just stick to SWAT 4 with mods

I'm still waiting on that Elite Force update. I just want my glowsticks to not phase through the floor.