Recommendations for 40k books

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Going off of how Alpharius is I think they're definitely going to realize that they're all insane and not just completely go off the deep end and hate everyone and anything that moves

Once you've read the Heresy Books on them, you understand what they're supposed to be doing, even though it's obvious that they've got so much random shit happening, and a lot of it at complete odds with what everyone else (including other Alpha Legionnaires) are doing, and just throw your hands up and declare them a complete clusterfuck. You'll also accept that they're going to be that way forever.

Can I just get it off my chest that The Dark Angels and their brooding-bitch Primarch are even more irritating and hidebound than Rowboat Girlyman, more emo than Curze, and at least as spoiled as the Son's of Horus, and definitely as self-centred as The Emperor's Children? I swear to christ, they're the least useful chapter ever, and if anyone ever gets around to finishing the lore for the Blood Raven's, I hope the conspiracy about them being a redeemed splinter of The Thousand Sons is the direction it goes, instead of a forgotten Successor Chapter of Dark Angels.

I fucking despise the Dark Angels, and far more so than any of the obnoxiously dogmatic Codex-compliant Chapters.

Edit - I'm almost positive there's another book in the Heresy that has a Spess Muhreen ingest brain matter from another Spess Muhreen, expressly to absorb his memories; they can do it because of their omophagea, and it's a plot device in several other stories, throughout the post-Heresy era.
 
Once you've read the Heresy Books on them, you understand what they're supposed to be doing, even though it's obvious that they've got so much random shit happening, and a lot of it at complete odds with what everyone else (including other Alpha Legionnaires) are doing, and just throw your hands up and declare them a complete clusterfuck. You'll also accept that they're going to be that way forever.

Can I just get it off my chest that The Dark Angels and their brooding-bitch Primarch are even more irritating and hidebound than Rowboat Girlyman, more emo than Curze, and at least as spoiled as the Son's of Horus, and definitely as self-centred as The Emperor's Children? I swear to christ, they're the least useful chapter ever, and if anyone ever gets around to finishing the lore for the Blood Raven's, I hope the conspiracy about them being a redeemed splinter of The Thousand Sons is the direction it goes, instead of a forgotten Successor Chapter of Dark Angels.

I fucking despise the Dark Angels,and far more so than any of the obnoxiously dogmatic Codex-compliant Chapters.
Atleast you can point and laugh at them for having to deal with the worst shit in the galaxy right on the very rim of the imperium (I'm pretty sure thats what they do)
 
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The Adventures of the All Guardsmen Party

Technically not a book, but narration of a game, but better than anything official from the Black Library.
Behold: http://www.theallguardsmenparty.com/

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15 hours is the only good one imo. 40k lore is really poorly written and there's about untold billions of books by millions of authors, most of them fucking terrible. A lot of the lore contradicts itself and in 90% of the books one of the plotpoints will be based on something retconned by GW. It's a shitshow.
 
Atleast you can point and laugh at them for having to deal with the worst shit in the galaxy right on the very rim of the imperium (I'm pretty sure thats what they do)

Most of the time, they brood, chase "The Fallen", and brood some more. In one of the Deathwatch short stories, a Dark Angel forwarded to service ignores a direct order that would ensure the destruction of a xenos nest, because the whiny little cocksucker diverts to chase a Fallen, instead of delivering the 3rd gene-tailored virus bomb to the nest.
 
15 hours is the only good one imo. 40k lore is really poorly written and there's about untold billions of books by millions of authors, most of them fucking terrible. A lot of the lore contradicts itself and in 90% of the books one of the plotpoints will be based on something retconned by GW. It's a shitshow.
You're probably right but I'm an Autistic retard thats still 12 years old that finds the idea of super soldiers going on genocides funny as fuck
 
Gaunt's Ghosts was a series I absolutely loved. I'd rate it up there with some of the best military science fiction I've ever read (and I've read quite a bit). It's all quite low to the ground and personal, focusing on individual soldiers who are normal humans given a gun and ordered off to fight one of the Emperor's eternal wars. There's quite a lot of politics and Imperial bureaucracy thrown in too, as well as psyker fuckery. My only complaint is that they almost only ever fight against Chaos, with a few xenos now and then, but always Chaos when it comes to actual wars.
 
15 hours is the only good one imo. 40k lore is really poorly written and there's about untold billions of books by millions of authors, most of them fucking terrible. A lot of the lore contradicts itself and in 90% of the books one of the plotpoints will be based on something retconned by GW. It's a shitshow.
Heresy detected. I suggest exterminatus in a 100 mile radius of the posters location, it's the only way to be safe.
 
15 hours is the only good one imo. 40k lore is really poorly written and there's about untold billions of books by millions of authors, most of them fucking terrible. A lot of the lore contradicts itself and in 90% of the books one of the plotpoints will be based on something retconned by GW. It's a shitshow.

Everything in the 40K lore is top-shelf lore compared to WFB End Times.
 
For something slightly different, the Carcharodons books are a good read. You get to see a chapter that's spent millennia hunting in the dark space beyond the Imperium's borders and evolved into ruthless, Maori-themed killing machines. They're portrayed as being as bad, in some ways, as the traitors and xenos they're fighting, save for the fact that they're unshakably loyal to the Emperor and will happily throw themselves into the maw of a Black Crusade or a 'Nid hive fleet for the sake of an Imperium that doesn't know they exist.

Alternatively, if you want a good one-off book, try to find The World Engine. A Space Marine chapter called the Astral Knights go up against a Necron Death Star in an effort to stop it from obliterating a planet they're oath-sworn to protect. It's pretty badass.
 
For something slightly different, the Carcharodons books are a good read. You get to see a chapter that's spent millennia hunting in the dark space beyond the Imperium's borders and evolved into ruthless, Maori-themed killing machines. They're portrayed as being as bad, in some ways, as the traitors and xenos they're fighting, save for the fact that they're unshakably loyal to the Emperor and will happily throw themselves into the maw of a Black Crusade or a 'Nid hive fleet for the sake of an Imperium that doesn't know they exist.

Alternatively, if you want a good one-off book, try to find The World Engine. A Space Marine chapter called the Astral Knights go up against a Necron Death Star in an effort to stop it from obliterating a planet they're oath-sworn to protect. It's pretty badass.
Oh hell yeah thanks for enlightening me to the existence of the Carcharodons. Furry vore enthusiasts that are so unbelievably angry and are loyal to the emperor I think they're one of my favourites chapters now
 
Was "the beast arises" series any good? And can anyone tell me the name of the books that tell the story of when the orks invade Armageddon? Or am I asking the same question?
 
Everything in the 40K lore is top-shelf lore compared to WFB End Times.

Why on Earth is WFB so simple now? Wasn't the whole appeal of it to be a complex wargame?

Also, Titanicus was the first 40K book I've read. It's been a long time since I've read it, but I remember it being pretty great as an intro to the 41st Millenium.
 
Why on Earth is WFB so simple now? Wasn't the whole appeal of it to be a complex wargame?

Also, Titanicus was the first 40K book I've read. It's been a long time since I've read it, but I remember it being pretty great as an intro to the 41st Millenium.

To be fair, Age of Sigmar seems to be selling very well. I think the tabletop rules needed to be simplified for newcomers to the game, but the lore behind it is just plain shit. They absolutely destroyed any sort of prestige Bretonnia or Louen Louencour had in End Times. The only character I think that was handled fairly well was Vlad Von Carstein's death.

Then again, Primaris Marines are just as dumb. Good idea for marketing, but just cheapens the lore.
 
A little bit of a thread-resurrection but no sense in making a new thread when a good one already exists.

I asked this over the the WH40K thread in Games but that's the wrong thread for it, really. I want to read some more WH40K novels. I started reading the Siege of Terra series, read the first two and then hit a problem - the third one is written by Gav Thorpe, possibly my least favourite WH40K author. Anyone read this series and how viable would it be to just cram wiki summaries of the novel and then skip the fourth? I want to get back to novels read by people like Chris Wraight. Or do I make like Perterabo and just endure the third novel for the sake of getting to the rest?

Alternately I might re-pick up the Caiaphus Cain novels (I've only read the first two, I thought they were alright but do they get better or worse?) or I might just try and find some good solo novels I've not yet read. Taking recommendations.
 
Alternately I might re-pick up the Caiaphus Cain novels (I've only read the first two, I thought they were alright but do they get better or worse?
They don't get anything. The thing with Cain novels is that they're more or less pulp, same story structures, same writing structures, same everything(that includes the one in the past before him meeting Amberly or the Valhallans). They're all fun, light hearted adventures where Cain bumbles into grave danger and then bumbles out of it.
You've read one you've practically read all of them and it's up to you whether you want more of it or not.
 
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