Red Cross Health Icon Appreciation Thread

[ToroidalBoat]

This is actually an incredibly important concept in vexillology(muh flag study); a red cross on a white background is trivially easy to make.

At least US law doesn't restrict the use of a simple cross of other colors. Like a black cross or green cross.

+
+

 

[4chanJanitorDefenseForce]

Honestly if SWAT4 had a "surrender" button in multiplayer it would have been a lot more interesting. In general the concept of being able to surrender or at least a rout not being "slaughter them to the man" in a normally violent game would be fun to play with as a designer/writer.

SWAT deviated from the basic concept of a SWAT team established in the original FMV game pretty early. They beat it into your head that the best outcome had zero casualties on either side.

 

[Glory To Arztotska]

I think the STALKER games still use Red Crosses for their medkits, or at least the original trilogy still does.

 

[VIPPER?]

I think the STALKER games still use Red Crosses for their medkits, or at least the original trilogy still does.

If I remember correctly, it's a white cross on a color denoting the medkit's "rank". White on red for the basic, blue background for the "military" one that stopped bleeding better, yellow background for the one that included anti-rad. But I wager that's more for readability in the interface since the first one came out in like 2006 and picking out colors of the tiny cross on some russian-made CRT would be annoying compared to just looking at the whole box.

At least US law doesn't restrict the use of a simple cross of other colors. Like a black cross or green cross.

You got memed on. nothing about use of the red cross is "US law" beyond routine intellectual property stuff.

SWAT deviated from the basic concept of a SWAT team established in the original FMV game pretty early. They beat it into your head that the best outcome had zero casualties on either side.

On the hardest difficulty, you can still kill people if they're a valid threat and the good cop points system is balanced such that you can pass if every kill is valid. It just almost never happens because in the base campaigns, enemy "morale" values are too low and arrests provide so many extra points you'd be a dummy to not go for it.

 

[Grub]

Reminder the Red Cross also had the "play by the rules" shit (https://www.vml.com/work/play-by-the-rules is a mirror, I think. It used to be on icrc.org). They were encouraging gamers not to shoot enemies who were down but not dead, etc (so teammates could revive them and you'd lose when they came back to murder you).
They need to stick to the real world.

Someone needs to make an fps game where the goal is to shoot as many red cross workers as possible using only weapons that are banned by the Geneva Convention.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

You got memed on. nothing about use of the red cross is "US law" beyond routine intellectual property stuff.

I'd be nice if that were the case.

Whoever, whether a corporation, association or person, other than the American National Red Cross and its duly authorized employees and agents and the sanitary and hospital authorities of the armed forces of the United States, uses the emblem of the Greek red cross on a white ground, or any sign or insignia made or colored in imitation thereof or the words “Red Cross” or “Geneva Cross” or any combination of these words—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

- 18 U.S.C. 706

Although maybe "use" has a certain criteria and isn't just reproducing or displaying it.

 

[VIPPER?]

- 18 U.S.C. 706

Wild. I never heard of this but apparently it's quite old. However, it sounds more like it applies to people/agencies than their works and is intended for going after posing as a red cross member/agent, since it does start with

Whoever wears or displays the sign of the Red Cross or any insignia colored in imitation thereof for the fraudulent purpose of inducing the belief that he is a member of or an agent for the American National Red Cross; or ...

I'd imagine "use" still extends to displaying it at all for any reason but probably gets canceled out by various other laws allowing artistic/techical/etc works to use icons as appropriate. But I'm not sure if vidya automatically count as art yet.

 

[Snekposter]

Wild. I never heard of this but apparently it's quite old. However, it sounds more like it applies to people/agencies than their works and is intended for going after posing as a red cross member/agent, since it does start with

I'd imagine "use" still extends to displaying it at all for any reason but probably gets canceled out by various other laws allowing artistic/techical/etc works to use icons as appropriate. But I'm not sure if vidya automatically count as art yet.

You should post the entire thing since its quite short:

Whoever wears or displays the sign of the Red Cross or any insignia colored in imitation thereof for the fraudulent purpose of inducing the belief that he is a member of or an agent for the American National Red Cross; or

Whoever, whether a corporation, association or person, other than the American National Red Cross and its duly authorized employees and agents and the sanitary and hospital authorities of the armed forces of the United States, uses the emblem of the Greek red cross on a white ground, or any sign or insignia made or colored in imitation thereof or the words “Red Cross” or “Geneva Cross” or any combination of these words—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

This section shall not make unlawful the use of any such emblem, sign, insignia or words which was lawful on the date of enactment of this title.

Looks to me like its fairly explicit in that you're not allowed to personally bear it, although the final section would cover fair use even for that part, assuming it existed prior to 1948.

And yes, video games are art that's covered by the 1st Amendment in the USA.