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[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I don't think I could get over the a/v quality. That's just too much, man. Those look like that super low budget horror called Slaughter Day they reviewed on BOTW.

They were trash-tier back then too. Much like Roger Corman's Fantastic Four, these movies were never meant to be seen. Unlike Roger Corman, they lacked the attention to detail and work ethic.

 

[Acoustic Virgin]

What's the story with the way that certain voices, usually on Wheel of the Worst / Junka episodes, are distorted as if they're being sent through a cheap voice changer? The RLM crew don't acknowledge it, so I don't think that it is part of the videos themselves, and the changing voice doesn't really make sense for their commentary, so I don't think that they're adding it intentionally either.

Here are two examples that I've noticed:

Is it some artifact of the VHS transfer process? If so, why does it only apply to certain characters and not the entire soundtrack?

 

[Rich Evans Ayypologist]

The appeal of making Spacecop was mostly about having the experience of making a movie, and now that they've done it once, it's not worth repeating.

They made shit before SpaceCop, like Feeding Frenzy. I remember going to watch at a friend's place and them apologizing for the fact that it was really, really bad.

Space Cop, though, felt in a lot of ways even worse than Feeding Frenzy - because they had some cameos and demonstrated a clear ability to actually make a kitschy b-movie, if they really wanted to. Instead, they made a bunch of... really, really bad jokes for the entire runtime. Even for the experience of just understanding how bad it is, Space Cop isn't worth putting on in the background of a party to be ignored (in the way you can with Breen, Wiseau, etc).

 

[mlanguishi]

They made shit before SpaceCop, like Feeding Frenzy. I remember going to watch at a friend's place and them apologizing for the fact that it was really, really bad.

Space Cop, though, felt in a lot of ways even worse than Feeding Frenzy - because they had some cameos and demonstrated a clear ability to actually make a kitschy b-movie, if they really wanted to. Instead, they made a bunch of... really, really bad jokes for the entire runtime. Even for the experience of just understanding how bad it is, Space Cop isn't worth putting on in the background of a party to be ignored (in the way you can with Breen, Wiseau, etc).

Yeah, one of the few online creator anything I bought was the DVD of Feeding Frenzy and jeez it bad. Not a single funny line and they all look embarrassed really. The only thing I liked of them before (review style) RLM is the little known Grabowskis. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5371212/reference/

It works because it's dark awkward humor riff of All in the Family style but fairly short eps. I didn't feel too bad about wasting money on Feeding Frenzy because I wanted to support them anyway at the time.

Feeding Frenzy is only better than 2 other 'big Youtube' creator movies, and just barely. The AVGN movie and the CA ones. I only skimmed Space Cop, just from the trailers I knew to skip.

ETA: That also made me go and look at what else I got, and also got this: https://redlettermedia.vhx.tv/products/the-red-letter-media-archive-collection-vol-1

I totally forgot about that one. Now that I look over the listings they're vaguely mediocre, nothing atrocious like Feeding Frenzy. Their short skits are much easier to take than feature length.

 

[Mola Ram]

They made shit before SpaceCop, like Feeding Frenzy. I remember going to watch at a friend's place and them apologizing for the fact that it was really, really bad.

Space Cop, though, felt in a lot of ways even worse than Feeding Frenzy - because they had some cameos and demonstrated a clear ability to actually make a kitschy b-movie, if they really wanted to. Instead, they made a bunch of... really, really bad jokes for the entire runtime. Even for the experience of just understanding how bad it is, Space Cop isn't worth putting on in the background of a party to be ignored (in the way you can with Breen, Wiseau, etc).

RLM's weakness has always been writing. They're the sort of filmmakers who focus on camerawork, editing, and other various bits of craft that make a film student's heart go pit-a-pat, but when it comes to the actual story being told, "serviceable" is all they're ever looking for and even that might not be a requirement. You can see this in their disdain for continuity (or "lore," a word I've come to despise), in how they brush off concerns about occasional plot holes, and how they talk about "the language of cinema" but never actual, ya know, language.

They very much strike me as the sort of filmmakers who would happily start shooting when their movie consists of just an outline and a few scenes, and I tend to doubt there's one among them who could turn out a decent screenplay.

 

[Mr. Racewar1488]

RLM's weakness has always been writing. They're the sort of filmmakers who focus on camerawork, editing, and other various bits of craft that make a film student's heart go pit-a-pat, but when it comes to the actual story being told, "serviceable" is all they're ever looking for and even that might not be a requirement. You can see this in their disdain for continuity (or "lore," a word I've come to despise), in how they brush off concerns about occasional plot holes, and how they talk about "the language of cinema" but never actual, ya know, language.

They very much strike me as the sort of filmmakers who would happily start shooting when their movie consists of just an outline and a few scenes, and I tend to doubt there's one among them who could turn out a decent screenplay.

They're no better than modern Hollywood writers. No wonder they're trying to dick suck their way into Hollywood; this is their last chance to be mainstream filmmakers before they're all replaced by LLMs.

 

[mlanguishi]

They're no better than modern Hollywood writers. No wonder they're trying to dick suck their way into Hollywood; this is their last chance to be mainstream filmmakers before they're all replaced by LLMs.

Are they trying? I haven't noticed really. I have noticed they stopped trashing bad new movies almost entirely, kinda reminds me of Stuckmann's ideas of 'if I'm nicer to them they'll let me into the club'.

 

[Rudy Coleman]

i just got dont watching street trash,
has josh done another re:view? he was so funny

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

Speaking of old RLM movies, does anyone have the making of documentary about The Recovered? The whole thing used to be on Youtube years ago, but now all that remains is a short clip.

 

[khaine]

Are the Pre-rec streams worth watching? Is there a playlist of the better streams?

 

[newuser131]

The Recovered

it was the only rlm film they tried to make as a serious actual movie. its basically a 90s indie film. visually competent but has a story/script that goes nowhere.

 

[Hentai-Semitism]

Are the Pre-rec streams worth watching? Is there a playlist of the better streams?

Watch/listen to the ones with Jay. I think someone even made a Youtube playlist of those. They're the only ones worth checking out and even then you have to suffer Jack's fake laugh most of the time.

 

[HowlingChasm]

Watch/listen to the ones with Jay. I think someone even made a Youtube playlist of those. They're the only ones worth checking out and even then you have to suffer Jack's fake laugh most of the time.

The best PreRec streams are when it's basically just a RLM podcast between Jack and Jay talking about movies and Rich shuts up to focus on whatever game. Even Josh made for a good guest just bullshitting about wrestling and stuff(I think the episode is something like 'The 3 J's).

 

[Not A Bunny]

RLM's weakness has always been writing. They're the sort of filmmakers who focus on camerawork, editing, and other various bits of craft that make a film student's heart go pit-a-pat, but when it comes to the actual story being told, "serviceable" is all they're ever looking for and even that might not be a requirement. You can see this in their disdain for continuity (or "lore," a word I've come to despise), in how they brush off concerns about occasional plot holes, and how they talk about "the language of cinema" but never actual, ya know, language.

They very much strike me as the sort of filmmakers who would happily start shooting when their movie consists of just an outline and a few scenes, and I tend to doubt there's one among them who could turn out a decent screenplay.

Honestly, any drive these guys have to make movies might have been killed off by "Hundreds of Beavers".

No doubt these guys have heard of it. I'm sure they were even urged to review it.

There's nothing that would kill off the urge for them to make movies than watching people in the same boat as them (they even claim a Midwestern pedigree) do something that looks more polished than they ever made.

(Disclaimer: I have a running headcanon about what filmmakers are like behind the scenes, so this might be an invisible one-sided rivalry that exists only to me.)

 

[Roy's Food Repair]

"Hundreds of Beavers".

Is it any good? The guy who stars in it is still touring theatres and he's coming to one near me. Is it worth seeing?

 

[Not A Bunny]

Is it any good? The guy who stars in it is still touring theatres and he's coming to one near me. Is it worth seeing?

Since taste is objective, I'll say this: it is an adult live-action Looney Tunes movie, with some video game mechanics thrown in, and very little dialogue. Despite being made for $150k, it looks great. I consider it clever as well as fun.

Basically, the trailer doesn't sell it short, nor does it give away everything. So, if the trailer makes you want to see it, by all means. I'm sure it will be even more fun in a crowd of people who have already seen it.

 

[Flexo]

RLM's weakness has always been writing. They're the sort of filmmakers who focus on camerawork, editing, and other various bits of craft that make a film student's heart go pit-a-pat, but when it comes to the actual story being told, "serviceable" is all they're ever looking for and even that might not be a requirement. You can see this in their disdain for continuity (or "lore," a word I've come to despise), in how they brush off concerns about occasional plot holes, and how they talk about "the language of cinema" but never actual, ya know, language.

They very much strike me as the sort of filmmakers who would happily start shooting when their movie consists of just an outline and a few scenes, and I tend to doubt there's one among them who could turn out a decent screenplay.

It is ironic they would understand quite well how to execute the film to realize what the story wants to convey.

It is ironic given the plinkett reviews often did a great job explaining story issues. (Like how character works.) I guess once they got it out of their system they stopped caring.

 

[Mola Ram]

It is ironic they would understand quite well how to execute the film to realize what the story wants to convey.

It is ironic given the plinkett reviews often did a great job explaining story issues. (Like how character works.) I guess once they got it out of their system they stopped caring.

I actually think they could make a hell of a movie (assuming they still have the drive, which is getting debatable as they age and continue to make bank on YouTube) if they were given a good screenplay, with the artistic decisions concerning the story made by the writer or a non-scumbag producer. They know what they're doing mechanically and craftwise; they're simply not storytellers.

 

[Not A Bunny]

It is ironic given the plinkett reviews often did a great job explaining story issues. (Like how character works.) I guess once they got it out of their system they stopped caring.

It's one thing to be able to come up with a good story, and it's another to call it out when something goes wrong.

I know he gets a moderate amount of hate on this board, but Critical Drinker tends to also be able to understand good story structure and writing.

And then he came up with his own stories, and well...yeah. There's a reason why he's not a famous studio writer, and it ain't because of some connection with Ben Shapiro.

 

[Mola Ram]

It's one thing to be able to come up with a good story, and it's another to call it out when something goes wrong.

I know he gets a moderate amount of hate on this board, but Critical Drinker tends to also be able to understand good story structure and writing.

And then he came up with his own stories, and well...yeah. There's a reason why he's not a famous studio writer, and it ain't because of some connection with Ben Shapiro.

Critiquing is easy. Creation is fucking hard.