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What kid actually enjoys Disney Star Wars though? I don't see any.
That's what happens when you make movies/shows for your friends and co-workers to clap and congratulate you on instead of making something that makes money.

I was a kid when Phantom Menace came out. I and a bunch of boys had double edged lightsaber toys because it looked fucking awesome. The CGI is dated now but at the time it did what it was meant to do: Get kids excited and wanting to play with toys and video games based on them. I went and saw the next two because of how much I loved the originals and wanted to see more Obi-Wan and Yoda doing cool shit.

But what kid is going to look back at the sequels and say "I loved it when Han Solo got stabbed" or "Remember when Luke did nothing but be grumpy all movie and then die in what was just a distraction?" or any of the other shit that happened?
 
They were hated by the terminally online nerds that dominated the internet at that time. But they were still liked by the general movie going audience
I was there at the exact age range they were intended for, the build up for the first one was insane, never seen anything like it since. The second? Nothing even close.

The only notable thing when was everyone heard about that sand line, we went to go see it to laugh at in the theater.

I had to force my boyfriend to go see the third, just to finish the series. The ridiculous "NOOOOOOOO" was again the only redeeming thing.
 
I was there at the exact age range they were intended for, the build up for the first one was insane, never seen anything like it since. The second? Nothing even close.

The only notable thing when was everyone heard about that sand line, we went to go see it to laugh at in the theater.

I had to force my boyfriend to go see the third, just to finish the series. The ridiculous "NOOOOOOOO" was again the only redeeming thing.
I am eternally baffled at the revisionism towards the prequels in an effort to frame RLM as responsible for the quality of the sequels. Having been seven when TPM came out, it was only notable in that it was the first time I looked at the media I was consuming with any form of criticism. I completely skipped over the second one, and only ever saw the third because my dad was himself the same age range for the originals and wanted to see a Star Wars premier with me; we both fell asleep halfway through and I didn’t even know about the big “No” until like 2008. They were bad, everyone knew they were bad without having to be online to discuss it. The Plinkett reviews aren’t notable for being the first to talk about how bad the Prequels are, they were notable for articulating the thoughts people did not necessarily have the verbiage to do so on their own.

The only reason the Prequels look any better today is because the absolute dire state of media in general: “good” media today wouldn’t be good enough to garner any attention fifteen years ago, let alone when the Prequels were coming out. But they are still unwatchable bad, and no amount of “artistic vision” will elevate them above it.
 
I was there at the exact age range they were intended for, the build up for the first one was insane, never seen anything like it since. The second? Nothing even close.

The only notable thing when was everyone heard about that sand line, we went to go see it to laugh at in the theater.

I had to force my boyfriend to go see the third, just to finish the series. The ridiculous "NOOOOOOOO" was again the only redeeming thing.

This essentially tracks with my memories of it. Episode I had nearly 20 years of hype -- remember, the hype didn't begin with Return of the Jedi; it began either when Empire was released with the title card "Episode V" or when the original was re-released sometime in 1978-1980 with "Episode IV" added to the title crawl (I genuinely don't know when this latter happened, but it was everyone's clue that there was a whole batch of movies that would hopefully get made someday).

Then The Phantom Menace came out and the general reaction ranged from "This is it?!" to "meh." Yes, it made a ton of money, and it played all summer, as I recall, but 20 years of hype will do that when the movie is merely underwhelming as opposed to shitting in your face ... and there was a sizable, vocal chunk of the audience who did feel it shit in their face, in the shape of Jar Jar Binks and midichlorians. It drew a ton of unfavorable comparison to The Matrix, with lots of muttering that Lucas was stuck in the past and this was a stodgy, dull flick despite its SFX, and that it should have been made at least a decade before.

Attack of the Clones was probably the low point, although the response was more muted (expectations had been sufficiently lowered); Revenge of the Sith won over a lot of people but it still wasn't the triumphant return some people insist it was. There's plenty of cheese on that sandwich.

Which is why a statement like this:

The prequels may be clumsy messes for the most part (though episode 3 I find legitimate) but they revitized the franchise as a whole and made it much more mainstream than the original trilogy ever was

... could only ever have been written by someone who has no memory whatsoever of what an absolutely gargantuan phenomenon Star Wars was from 1977 throughout the 1980s, dying down toward the end of the decade, and slowly gathering steam as rumors of the prequels began to circulate.

The original trilogy was a cultural juggernaut that came out of nowhere. The prequels were a massively hyped letdown.
 
If you were born after 1985 then your opinion of the prequels is not worth listening to.

Eh, this is way too close to the filthy hippies who claim if you weren't around when Lord of the Rings came out caught fire in the USA in the 1960s then you just don't get it, man. However, I will agree that anyone who's too young to remember at least one OT movie in the theatres doesn't really get what a big deal they were at the time or how they dominated 80s culture -- not just "geek culture," but culture. Star Wars helped us win the Cold War, for Kali-Ma's sake.

EDIT: Yes, LOTR was fully published by 1954, but it really only became a phenomenon in Burgerland in the 60s, with FRODO LIVES popping up in subway graffiti and way too many dirtbags with long beards insisting they be addressed as Gandalf the Groovy.
 
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Yeah, I don't get the 'the prequels revitalized the franchise' statement. The 90s were a pretty strong period for Star Wars with the 'sequel' book trilogy getting major hype, lots of merchandise crap, the original trilogy getting another theatrical release with the 'special editions', etc.

And that's without going into how much of a juggernaut it was in the 70s and 80s. You can't really understate how pervasive the merchandising was or the general cultural impact it had.

I think a lot of folks don't understand just how strong that impact was because Lucas essentially created the blockbuster movie template from which all big tentpole films try to emulate.

E: And the prequels were largely seen as a disappointment or meh. There were standout moments in each of them (Duel of the Fates, Yoda using a lightsaber, Jango Fett, etc.) but the general pop culture vibe was dunking on Jar Jar Binks + how cool Darth Maul was.
 
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The Prequels are frustrating in the sense that the potential was there to match the quality of the Original Trilogy. A lot of the themes and ideas in the story are good. However, in my opinion, there's a lot of small things and problems in execution that prevent the Prequels from reaching their potential. The foundation is there, as evidenced by the Clone Wars series.

The Disney Sequels, however ... Completely rotten and unsalvageable, inside and out. And, more annoying and cringeworthy than the Prequels ever were, if you ask me.

The Prequels, with all of their problems, are leagues ahead in quality compared to the Disney shit. I'll even be arrogant enough to say that it an objective fact, as the Prequels actually told a cohesive narrative. lol. The Prequels have a beginning, middle, and end-- bare minimum storytelling, actually ... Which cannot be said about the Sequels.
 
If you want an intelligent defense of the prequels you don't need to look any further than the fairly well known video by Rick Worley, which is a video which should be especially insulting to Mike because he views himself as a real filmmaker and film connoisseur, (the part about dumb critics was published separately)
While I do enjoy the excerpt of his video on critics, I think he has a lot problems he says other people have. Particularly in this video:


First of he starts talking about how in '77 there was a limited release of Star Wars and wide release and therefore there's always been special editions. Like fuck off dude that's clearly not what people are referring to. He also falls into the pitfall that a lot Prequel defenders do in that they take Lucas' word as gospel. In particular, his defense of the Greedo shoots first edit is pretty atrocious. He plays Lucas explaining that he always intended Han to shoot in self defense and justifies the changes by saying it makes it more clear. If that was always the intention why did you need to edit Harrison Ford into this super uncanny bobbing of his neck to avoid the shot and not just have Ford dart across his seat or something to show he was avoiding an active shot? The scene is very clearly referencing this scene from Good, Bad and the Ugly:


Tuco and Han both have guns drawn at them and puts them in self defense situations so shooting first is completely justified. It's not my fault that Lucas and/or the audience are dumb liberals who think that makes them heartless killers and not just men out looking to defend themselves. And the worst part is that Rick Worley KNOWS about this movie being referenced and criticizes others for not seeing the parallels. Why doesn't he bring it up? Likely cause then Lucas was wrong to use it as a reference if Greedo shooting first was always the intention. It's just bullshit. He also completely glosses over the unnecessary addition of the Jabba scene in New Hope. It got cut for a reason and that's cause all the info is in the Greedo shooting scene and much better conveyed there as well.

All the edits are incredibly hard to defend cause there's a very simple solution. Just release high quality versions of the original movies which are as close to their original wide theatrical runs. You could sell them on their own with no extras or anything and they'd sell like hotcakes. But there's literally a Lucas mandate that prevents that from happening. Directors aren't gods and can fuck up. Like look at all the recent James Cameron movies on 4K with absolutely terrible transfers but they advertise "overseen by James Cameron himself."

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The Prequels aren't good. Not in any traditional sense. But, there's at least nuggets of cool things in there and they're big swings. Even if their misses. He was still coming at the movies from a place of passion and, for better or worse, it was all his vision.

There was no vision in the sequels. Just committee-driven corporate drivel.

I keep hearing Andor is good, but also that it's just not Star Wars. It's a dour, political thriller that looks like it would have a hard time existing in the same setting as Luke and Jar Jar.

Acolyte was just more agenda-driven filmmaking. Mike and Jay can glaze it some more, but something being "different" doesn't inherently make it good. The age of quirky lesbian shows really needs to end.
 
He also falls into the pitfall that a lot Prequel defenders do in that they take Lucas' word as gospel. In particular, his defense of the Greedo shoots first edit is pretty atrocious. He plays Lucas explaining that he always intended Han to shoot in self defense and justifies the changes by saying it makes it more clear. If that was always the intention why did you need to edit Harrison Ford into this super uncanny bobbing of his neck to avoid the shot and not just have Ford dart across his seat or something to show he was avoiding an active shot? The scene is very clearly referencing this scene from Good, Bad and the Ugly:
The logic of the original scene where Han shoots Greedo was that Greedo was about to shoot Han first, making Han justified in shooting him in self-defense. When Lucas said Han was always supposed to shoot in self-defence this is what he was referring to, not that Greedo was supposed to shoot first. The reasoning for the change in the special editions was that Lucas felt the audience might not pick up on the fact that Greedo was about to shoot Han anyways so he edited Greedo to shoot first to make it more obvious to them that Han was justified in shooting Greedo. You can argue the change was unnecessary but general audiences can be retarded some times. I also don’t get what you mean by not taking Lucas’s word as authoritative in this instance. He’s the one who made the edits so how are we supposed to discern the intentions of a particular change that he made without considering Lucas’s own statements about it?

I do however disagree with the crux of Worley’s video, since I think that even if the changes in the special editions are unimportant all things considered, I think the public should be able to see the original (or at least close to original) edits of the films, if for no other reason than as historical novelty.
 
Andor was created by a snobby shit head who IIRC never watched Star Wars prior to being hired and who openly saw the project as a way to shit on Trump and further Kennedy's hate boner that fans love all things Empire by doing a show that explicitly to goes out of its way to reframe them as Nazi and by extension, all Trump supporters as Nazis. Along with continuing to ramrod the piece of shit Rogue One into canon.

The showrunner was a huge snob, demanding elaborate and expensive sets and exploiting the idea that streaming sites will give a literal blank check to anyone from Hollywood to make shows for them, that the show went from having a planned five season run to having to cram multiple seasons into season two, when it got cancelled.

Also, IIRC, A New Hope got reclassified as Episode 4 during the 1979-1980 reissue to hype the release of Empire.
 
Also, IIRC, A New Hope got reclassified as Episode 4 during the 1979-1980 reissue to hype the release of Empire.

This sounds right to me, as it would have been that re-release that I saw and I have no memory of "Episode IV: A New Hope" not being present in the crawl. But then, the OG Star Wars is literally the first movie I ever saw in a theatre and so my memory is understandably fuzzy.
 
The showrunner was a huge snob, demanding elaborate and expensive sets and exploiting the idea that streaming sites will give a literal blank check to anyone from Hollywood to make shows for them, that the show went from having a planned five season run to having to cram multiple seasons into season two, when it got cancelled.
Tony Gilroy said they scrapped it because Diego Luna was gonna get too old. Mind you, this is after a series where the same exact situation happened with two of its main characters and the audience did not care (Better Call Saul).

The truth is everybody on set and in production hated Tony Gilroy so much that they told him wrap it in the next season.
 
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First of he starts talking about how in '77 there was a limited release of Star Wars and wide release and therefore there's always been special editions. Like fuck off dude that's clearly not what people are referring to.
You haven't understood what Worley is saying, there is no "original version" in the way that the manchildren intend it, Star Wars was going through changes comparable, and in fact sometimes larger than the special edition changes that people complain about while it was being released in theaters. The stereo and mono audio tracks are very different with changes as minor as additional alien and robot noises, and as severe as entire voice actresses being changed or whole lines of expository dialogue being added in. Mike Stoklasa and the guy who made the People VS George Lucas literally got together and complained about a scream being added and removed from the falling scene in Empire, and they complain about Ewoks blinking or an additional alien being added in some scene or another. Do they want the original audio track or the revised mono audio track? Later versions are based upon both audio versions, with the additional noises, but using the base of the stereo version and original actress for Aunt Beru. And why shouldn't the original public screening of Star Wars count? Is it suddenly not problematic for George to be monkeying around with special effects just because fewer people had seen it? He isn't talking about the test screening, which he excludes because it wasn't a public screening, the limited release was a version that George was happy to show to the public, and he just had the ability to improve the movie after the initial public release, just like he did in 1997. In fact, you complaining about this just proves his point, you don't really care about the "original version", you care about the version you saw when you were younger, and earlier versions don't count as different versions because you arbitrarily don't care about them.
He also falls into the pitfall that a lot Prequel defenders do in that they take Lucas' word as gospel. In particular, his defense of the Greedo shoots first edit is pretty atrocious. He plays Lucas explaining that he always intended Han to shoot in self defense and justifies the changes by saying it makes it more clear. If that was always the intention why did you need to edit Harrison Ford into this super uncanny bobbing of his neck to avoid the shot and not just have Ford dart across his seat or something to show he was avoiding an active shot? The scene is very clearly referencing this scene from Good, Bad and the Ugly:
Tuco and Han both have guns drawn at them and puts them in self defense situations so shooting first is completely justified. It's not my fault that Lucas and/or the audience are dumb liberals who think that makes them heartless killers and not just men out looking to defend themselves. And the worst part is that Rick Worley KNOWS about this movie being referenced and criticizes others for not seeing the parallels. Why doesn't he bring it up? Likely cause then Lucas was wrong to use it as a reference if Greedo shooting first was always the intention. It's just bullshit. He also completely glosses over the unnecessary addition of the Jabba scene in New Hope. It got cut for a reason and that's cause all the info is in the Greedo shooting scene and much better conveyed there as well.
You're arguing with a straw man, Rick explicitly says that the change, despite being hailed as the most important change in the whole special editions, is actually a really minor change, the only difference is whether Greedo actually succeeded in pulling the trigger before he died, since it's really clear from the subtitles in the 1977 versions that Greedo was intending to kill Han Solo. And George chose to update the scene for two reasons, one of them is as you mentioned, that some people, especially those featured in the People VS George Lucas, really did think that this scene was portraying Han as a cold-blooded killer, which bothered George, and one of them is that the visual storytelling simply isn't as clear as George wanted it to be. Sure, it's clear that Han is in danger, but not that he's in imminent danger of death, unless you read the subtitles, but George wants his movies to be similar to silent movies insofar as you don't need any dialogue to understand what's happening, but the imminent danger of death is of course a really important part of the scene. Does the alteration look "super uncanny"? No, but it is a little bit awkward, which is why George tried to make it look better in later revisions like the 2004 DVD release. I would encourage you to read the top comments on this video to see whether George's concerns were legitimate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la7uuFsCIrg Also consider the fact that even if this scene was really changed for the worse, it would simply be one bad change among hundreds of good changes and not worth all the bitching.
I find your suggestion that George should have had Han dive out of the way if he was intending for him to actually be evading a shot to be very interesting because your proposed change actually does significantly change this scene and Han's characterization, because Han would be significantly less cool and collected by doing this rather than moving his head out of the way or managing to stop Greedo before he can shoot. Your point about the scene being a "very clear reference" to GBU is also pretty strange because, although the scenarios are fairly similar, and I can believe that George was consciously thinking of that scene while filming, the scenes aren't actually that similar, and it's pretty obvious that Han's characterization would be quite a lot different if he had actually shot Greedo multiple times and continued shooting him after getting up. If a change as large as that is an acceptable variation for the homage, why is Han shooting first so important?
I find it very strange that you're so upset about seeing Jabba the Hutt in Episode IV, despite apparently only considering it an "unnecessary addition", that is outdone by the Greedo scene. If it's just a little bit of filler, why does it matter so much whether George wants it to be in the movie? It's also strange to call it an "addition" when George always wanted the scene to be in the movie, but due to time and budget constraints he wasn't able to add in a proper Jabba creature, these same constraints being the reason why 4 was the most altered of all the movies with the special edition revisions, George was able to do pretty much whatever he wanted with the later movies except for technological constraints and continuity with movies that were only partly formed in his mind. The scene is also pretty clearly quite important for communicating both the reason why Han Solo and the gang aren't being chased by any more bounty hunters after Greedo, and showing the fact that Jabba respects and values Han, and that Han knows he isn't quite as expendable as Greedo thought, and in fact shows that Jabba sent Greedo more as an expendable message to Han than an actual bounty hunter. I encourage you to rewatch both the original version of the scene and the updated version to see all of this (and also note that, despite the fact that I'm pretty sure Jabba's dialogue is included in the subtitles, it isn't necessary to understand the scene).
All the edits are incredibly hard to defend cause there's a very simple solution. Just release high quality versions of the original movies which are as close to their original wide theatrical runs. You could sell them on their own with no extras or anything and they'd sell like hotcakes. But there's literally a Lucas mandate that prevents that from happening. Directors aren't gods and can fuck up. Like look at all the recent James Cameron movies on 4K with absolutely terrible transfers but they advertise "overseen by James Cameron himself."
Well of course the original versions are worse, and even if they weren't who really cares? They're just a series of well made movies, would it really be worth the effort, which is not some easy undertaking as you imagine it to be, to meticulously recreate all of the special effects as they were in 1977 but in 4k? If you consider it to be some important piece of history, we already have the old pre-97 VHS releases, they just aren't in HD. Should the government take the original negatives from George Lucas so that someone who wants to do the work can? Should they force George to do it himself? It's one thing to say that George doesn't really own Star Wars, which is true, it's an entirely different thing to say he doesn't own those film negatives or that he should be forced to make his own films worse in his own eyes. Of course it's true that directors can make things worse when they continue to tinker with their films, Worley acknowledges this when he mentions the 4k rereleases of the LOTR trilogy which were updated to be more visually bland like the Hobbit movies, but why should I care? At the end of the day all of these are just well made movies and you care an excessive amount due to emotional attachment, while Worley cares an excessive amount because he has an irrationally high view of the liberal arts and "creative people". You might argue that this or that film is "culturally important", but of course the Koran is extremely culturally important for Saudi Arabia, and you absolutely shouldn't believe that the Koran needs to be preserved.
 
Andor was created by a snobby shit head who IIRC never watched Star Wars prior to being hired and who openly saw the project as a way to shit on Trump and further Kennedy's hate boner that fans love all things Empire by doing a show that explicitly to goes out of its way to reframe them as Nazi and by extension, all Trump supporters as Nazis. Along with continuing to ramrod the piece of shit Rogue One into canon.

The showrunner was a huge snob, demanding elaborate and expensive sets and exploiting the idea that streaming sites will give a literal blank check to anyone from Hollywood to make shows for them, that the show went from having a planned five season run to having to cram multiple seasons into season two, when it got cancelled.

Also, IIRC, A New Hope got reclassified as Episode 4 during the 1979-1980 reissue to hype the release of Empire.
How is Andor anyways? There was a lot of people praising it but with dying fanbases they'd take anything that's not outright terrible. How does it balance the fact that it needs the Empire to be simultaneously all knowing and powerful while also being super corrupt and impotent?
 
The logic of the original scene where Han shoots Greedo was that Greedo was about to shoot Han first, making Han justified in shooting him in self-defense. When Lucas said Han was always supposed to shoot in self-defence this is what he was referring to, not that Greedo was supposed to shoot first. The reasoning for the change in the special editions was that Lucas felt the audience might not pick up on the fact that Greedo was about to shoot Han anyways so he edited Greedo to shoot first to make it more obvious to them that Han was justified in shooting Greedo. You can argue the change was unnecessary but general audiences can be retarded some times. I also don’t get what you mean by not taking Lucas’s word as authoritative in this instance. He’s the one who made the edits so how are we supposed to discern the intentions of a particular change that he made without considering Lucas’s own statements about it?
Anyone who has ever seen Lawrence of Arabia will immediately realize 1. how much A New Hope ripped off from it and 2. that Han absolutely shot first because Ali shot first when he kills the guy drinking from the well because he's from a tribe that's banned for drinking at that well. Han then goes through a similar arc as Ali but a lot quicker and not as well, where he starts as a violent thug and by the end of the movie has reversed positions and is now the civilized hero (spoilers for Lawrence of Arabia).
 
Yes, that is most likely the point of it. It's probably an intentional callback to fun old war movies where scrappy heroes in occupied countries are able to beat the enemy due to the cunning of our heroes and the oversight of an arrogant overextended eagle. Think the Norwegian heavy water sabotage for a historical example. - You saw this cliché in the good Indiana Jones movies too, both Spielberg and Lucas grew up with those films so it makes sense why they put that element in their own stories. - These movies are largely dead now and have been mostly replaced with misery porn, so I get why people don't understand the cultural context if you never watched "Where Eagles Dare" for example.
I think this also calls back to Tolkien's idea of the "eucatastrophe" and the heroes winning despite nearly impossible odds. LOTR is basically about a Hail Mary Pass to destroy the enemy superweapon via a stealth mission while being aided by the Good Powers of that universe. Tolkien also heavily pushed the "evil guys use machinery/tech" and "good guys use Nature and spirituality" angle, which was prominent in Star Wars.

It was a stupid idea to retcon the Death Star's Achilles Heel into something that was planned. It makes the bad guys look gullible and stupid instead of just being arrogant enough to think that their technology would work no matter what. I like to think of the Empire as being a space version of the Soviet Union, with the Death Star being their version of Chernobyl.

Also, if the heroes were smart enough to introduce a flaw into the plans that required an outside attack to exploit, couldn't they just have just introduced a flaw that would make the Death Star blow up if, say, it was used twice in a short amount of time? Or introduce some slight redesign at the last second that would bypass inspection yet result in a huge structural failure? Modern buildings and aircraft are hugely complex things made by very talented people, yet there are many disaster channels on Youtube devoted to structural and engineering failures that happened because someone somewhere goofed up. If the engineers and officials in the Death Star were foolish enough to overlook a purposeful design flaw that allowed an outside attacker to blow them up, they would have also been foolish enough to overlook the Death Star equivalent of the box girders being welded on the wrong way.
 
I also don’t get what you mean by not taking Lucas’s word as authoritative in this instance. He’s the one who made the edits so how are we supposed to discern the intentions of a particular change that he made without considering Lucas’s own statements about it?
Because Lucas is at that point an untrustworthy source of information about his original intentions or what happened on set in 1976. Lucas can explain his reasoning for the change. Great, I don't care. It's a bad change and his reasoning is only meant to support the change and not to defend his decisions from '76. He has every reason to be dishonest to justify the changes.

Does the alteration look "super uncanny"? No, but it is a little bit awkward,
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C'mon now.

I find it very strange that you're so upset about seeing Jabba the Hutt in Episode IV, despite apparently only considering it an "unnecessary addition", that is outdone by the Greedo scene. If it's just a little bit of filler, why does it matter so much whether George wants it to be in the movie?
I'm not sure how you get I'm "upset" about the change from my whopping 2 sentences glossing over it. Why does it matter that a redundant scene is added back into a movie after initially being cut? It's an unnecessary addition that makes the movie worse. It doesn't ruin my day thinking about it and at the end of the day is forever going to be in future editions of the movies no matter what I do. Lucas or whoever is doing more of these edits that keep getting added can continue to make the old movies worse.


Lines of dialogue are literally reused in the Greedo scene because at the time they couldn't get the Jabba scene to work so they moved that info around. If Lucas wanted to keep both the Jabba scene and the Greedo scene then he should've restored the original audio for the Greedo scene. If you're wondering why they cut to inserts of Han unholstering his gun is cause that's to hide the fact the Ford was saying something different at the time of shooting. Now the excuse could be that they don't have that audio anymore which should've pushed Lucas to not mess with the scene and kept restoring the Jabba scene as DVD extra.

Well of course the original versions are worse, and even if they weren't who really cares? They're just a series of well made movies, would it really be worth the effort, which is not some easy undertaking as you imagine it to be, to meticulously recreate all of the special effects as they were in 1977 but in 4k?
I don't know if you're like ESL or something or if you're being obtuse and pedantic on purpose but I never said that they need to release the original versions in 4K with special effects recreated. The 4K James Cameron movies was just a recent example of how a director can fuck up his own movies. No one has ever mentioned to my knowledge asking for such a task to be done, I merely said all they need to do is release the originals in as high quality as they can. Lucas or Lucasfilm have the original movies on film reels. They can easily get any number of companies to make new transfers of those reels. If niche, boutique companies like Vinegar Syndrome or Arrow Video are able to make a profit selling obscure shit in high quality then I don't see how Disney/Fox isn't able to turn a profit doing a simple new transfer for some of the most popular movies ever made. Never mind the fact that fans on their own have already done so with hand me down and scrounged together material.
 
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