Careercow Red3blog / Brian Stuart - Angry, Bitter Trollshielding Fat "Activist" with Tons of First World Problems

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The jacket reminded me of another fat guy
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Is this guy actually gay? Is he just using that to creep on chicks? Or is it both?
 
Fat people shouldn't be denied medical care. They should just have to accept that sometimes they're going to have to go to the zoo where medical machinery is designed to deal with an animal of several hundred pounds.
 
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He says he doesn't have anything to eat but he sure seems to have spaghetti and salt in spades. This is a continuation of the whining from early this morning.

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Shitlord said:
Do you…know the science and technology that goes into those things? They are tens of thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousands for a machine. Money that hospitals and mediocre facilities just may not have. You’re right, they DON’T grow on trees. People DO make them. But they are SO EXPENSIVE and they ARE fragile.

You know what’s also a choice? Shitty eating and activity habits.
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red3blob said:
Gotta love all the assholes saying they want fat people to die, but don’t want to say it like that.

Like this fuck-up. I’m guessing “fragile” is meant to imply fat people would just break equipment what with us being so fat. Which again, misses the point. Had all this equipment been designed for fat bodies in the first place, that’s not an issue. Neither is expense for much of this. If something was the standard, not an exception, increases in expense would be marginal. They don’t charge more for plus-size clothes than straight-sizes because of the added fabric.

And even where there would be added expense, like continuing birth control trials to determine how to administer the drug to fat bodies, why is that expense obviously extraordinary but the initial expense wasn’t?

Because someone decided it was. Someone very much like all these trolls who insist we should withhold medical care from fat people because we deserve to die. Believing in violent, eliminationist ideas like that is a choice, too.

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Some other fats have weighed in and red3blob whines that they could have made medical equipment for fat fucks the "norm". http://red3blog.tumblr.com/post/141319234942/mostlyturtles-sourcedumal-red3blog#notes

Ham Planet said:
We have the goddamn technology and ability. It is 100% stigma and bias towards fat bodies that hinders proper care and treatment. And that affects quality of care 100%.

There needs to be a shift in the medical world where fat people are seen as actual people and not fucking problems to be eliminated.
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Obeast said:
If they can make medical equipment specific for small and tiny bodies (child size blood pressure cuffs, child size chairs, child aspirin, child size lead vests for x rays, all the nicu equipment) they can make medical equipment specific for fat bodies.
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red3blob said:
And they do make medical equipment that can serve fat bodies. This was never a problem that couldn’t be solved. But that equipment is regarded as specialized so access is limited and often tightly controlled. Such as the example in the OP about anesthesia often being withheld unless a patient is having their digestive system partially amputated. That’s not a rule, but many docs will cite it while refusing other surgical needs nonetheless.

A lot of, if not most, of this specialized equipment didn’t need to be specialized, either. They could have just been the “norm”. The cut off is completely arbitrary. But because the made it “specialty”, NOW it costs more. But that was the product of choices. Not “just how things are.”

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Chan the Wizard said:
Children have value.
The same cannot be said for fatties.
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Nyberg would agree.

This guy is like a really weird amalgamation of fat fetishist and clothing hipster. Has anyone looked into why his wife left him? Did she feel like he was only perving on her for her fat, or did he get angry if she wanted to lose weight? Was it his obsession with buying and wearing womens panties? Questions, questions.
 
Red3blob is crying because nurses, med students, and EMTs have been telling him to shut the fuck up about overhauling every medical tool ever so it can fit ham planets that are eating themselves to death, sending him into a whining froth.
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Shitlord EMT said:
Okay but as an EMT, let me say something here.

Most medical equipment IS approved for people who weigh more than a magazine ad. That “special equipment” you’re talking about is for Bariatric patients who weigh in excess of FIVE. HUNDRED. POUNDS. That is NOT healthy and NOT normal and should never be “okay” or “accepted”. I’m sorry: and it’s inherently harmful if you try to push it as something “standard” as opposed to a serious health crisis.

In the case of larger people over 350+ pounds, you start looking at larger BP cuffs and the like, which most ambulances and crews have anyway (or at least city ones do; small rural departments usually don’t): they’re not considered “specialized”. Specialized equipment is when you start talking soft cots and dedicated Bariatric ambulances that have to move people that are so heavy that they *cant move themselves*. The same goes for surgery on larger patients; there is literally a lot more work that has to be done.

This isn’t a “fat shaming” issue. If you are literally so large you NEED things like a soft cot to be moved? Those things are so expensive because they are made for such a small demographic to protect both the patient, and the responders and medical personnel treating them (eg, their backs when they’re lifting with all proper procedure-and let me tell you, as someone who’s had a 500lb gurney roll over my foot and crush the steel toe in my boot, I 150% support that).

Standard hospital and first-response equipment is made for a majority demographic. When you say “specialty equipment”, that’s pertaining to a very specific set of circumstances. Dire ones, too, if I may say so. And telling someone who is over 350 pounds that they have to adjust their lifestyle because they’re literally killing themselves, (which also merits mental health intervention too, might I add) isn’t “fat shaming”-if I was a doctor and my patient was in the position of needing that special equipment, I absolutely would tell them to start making the changes necessary to put themselves on a track to better health. Not because as a person I see someone larger and go, eww they’re fat, but because as a medical provider I would be SERIOUSLY concerned about that person’s health.

So stop. Stop saying ‘that specialized equipment needs to be the norm’. Because no, it doesn’t. If you’re so overweight you’ve gotten to the point you need and XXL BP cuff or a soft cot, you are very very sick and in no way AT ALL do I advocate that as an acceptable way of life; and it’s harmful to paint it as okay when it is so far from okay it might as well be on the moon.
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Lard Ass said:
No, actually. Wrong. We’re not talking here just about specialised equipment for people who cannot move themselves, we are talking about day to day medical (and non-medical) equipment. We are talking about the chairs in the waiting rooms, we are talking about elective surgery being denied unless the patient gets their weight within the (provably inaccurate/misleading) “healthy” BMI range, we are talking about patients being denied the option of a water birth because the lifting equipment (that might be needed in case of emergency where the patient might be unable to get themselves out of the pool) has a weight limit on it (one which excludes patients who are classed as “overweight” but are by no means the morbidly obese/unable to move themselves that you suggest (and bearing in mind that pregnant patients will usually weigh more than their “usual” weight anyway)).

I’ve had the last two happen to me, personally, and I am nowhere near the “so heavy that they *can’t move themselves* that you claim is the only reason medical equipment is classed as “specialised”. Put simply, you have no idea what you’re talking about, the examples you give are a very very very small minority and the kind of discrimination we are talking about happens very very regularly… and, as you yourself have proved, working in the medical profession in no way prevents people from being fatphobic and from concern trolling (in fact, it many ways it encourages it).
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red3blob said:
Fat people with mobility concerns deserve medical care, too. The fact that a medical profession exploitatively references people who are 500lbs (BINGO!) to suggest those people don’t deserve medical care is deeply disgusting.

Not surprising, but horrifyingly disgusting. That they are so eager to fat shame people to death and still feel entitled to deny it is fat shaming is perhaps the worst part. They rationalize that they aren’t fat shaming anyone because fat people deserve to be ashamed. The idea of someone with such violent impulses about fat bodies being a medical profession is a sad reminder of why fat people are often reluctant to seek medical attention. A post like theirs ought to be grounds for them to lose their license, but we all know it never would be. Wishing fat people could be neglected to death is a perfectly ordinary viewpoint in the medical profession.

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Eat Beast said:
Also medical equipment is expensive but not as fragile as you think. Much of is it made so that thousands of people can use it in a day, unless it’s something that is supposed to be disposable because of exchange of fluids etc. But even then it needs to be durable. Medical equipment can accommodate fat people, it can be designed for that, it’s just easier to act like fat people are a burden then to take into account their needs when designing this shit. Which is bullshit.
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Explaining the problems with accommodating special-needs people = wanting special-needs people to die. I suppose that explaining the difficulties of legally representing a mentally-challenged client or a child is also a covertly expressed desire for said people to go without representation.

I would be surprised, but I remember a guy who once said that "cut taxes" is code for "genocide". This is a decades-old piece of...rhetoric.
 
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Something of an anecdote re: rehauling medical devices to cater to fatties

When I went to get my legs x-rayed it took ten goddamn tries in order to get a clear shot. According to the guy running the x-ray, the clinic is so used to dealing with morbidly obese people he couldn't fucking remember how to get proper x-rays of non-obese folk. Make what you will of that.

Insufferable whiner said:
I’ve had the last two happen to me, personally, and I am nowhere near the “so heavy that they *can’t move themselves* that you claim is the only reason medical equipment is classed as “specialised”
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Insufferable whiner said:
We are talking about the 1 chairs in the waiting rooms, 2 we are talking about elective surgery being denied unless the patient gets their weight within the (provably inaccurate/misleading) “healthy” BMI range, 3 we are talking about patients being denied the option of a water birth because the lifting equipment (that might be needed in case of emergency where the patient might be unable to get themselves out of the pool) has a weight limit on it (one which excludes patients who are classed as “overweight” but are by no means the morbidly obese/unable to move themselves that you suggest (and bearing in mind that pregnant patients will usually weigh more than their “usual” weight anyway)).
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Am...Am I reading that right? Is he saying he was denied a water birth?
 
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Maybe his fat mom wasn't able to pop him out in a blow up pool and it's haunted him ever since.
 
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