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Most anti-car people I know either uber or drive everywhere in a giant fuck-off SUV. So I tend to fully dismiss their opinions as needless whining about being lazy and too socially anxious about driving.

Meanwhile, I bike for nearly every day-to-day activity and before moving to my currently area previously did bike+carshare for about 4 years because it saved money and was an excuse for exercise. I lived about 3 miles from the bar district and took the walk back from a night of degen debauchery as a welcome opportunity to sober up. And I actively support prioritizing gas-guzzling murdercars for urban planning, and worked on a campaign to force new residential development to include more parking instead of the absolutly fucktarded bedroom-to-spot ratio that goes on now.

"Improve Public Transit + Make separate bike corridors that aren't death traps" and "We need to be able to get to places quickly and conveniently in personal vehicles, and denying the reality by shitting up cities isn't a valid position" are not disperate positions.

OTOH, I remember reading car people melting down about lanes being narrowed to add a bike line, citing how bad traffic was. Nigger, every bike in that lane is a car that isn't gridlocking you at the stoplight, you should be doing everything you can to get more people into lycra.

tl;dr:
People are short sighted and stupid, but any democrat position is always wrong.
This is why Abortion should be made illegal and also mandatory.
 
If urbanists just wanted to a car free neighborhood no one would care. In fact, they could do that right now by buying some unincorporated land near a city and building whatever they want on it. They don’t, because the actual goal is to force everyone into their preferred lifestyle.
This right here. They can't just live their preferred lifestyle and leave the rest of us alone, they have to make the rest of us miserable to get their desired result. They're just like communists. Oh, you want to get some of your friends and live inawoods pooling resources communaly? Could be cool, let me know how it goes. What's that, everyone you know is a feckless retard so you just want to sponge off my labor and tax dollars to moderate reddit and pop tiddy skittles all day long? How'd you like a helicopter ride, commie?

Imagine having an idea so good you have to use the law to force it into existence then call anyone that tries to stop you selfish.

- People bitter about being too wracked with anxiety to ever be trusted to drive anything anywhere at any speed, and are too pussyshit to drive defensively and secretly hate themselves for being such a massive pussy about everything all the time
Oh God, the projection is so real there. The worst is when they celebrate architecture that impedes cars. If you can't be trusted to drive over 10MPH without having an autistic meltdown, that's on you. Don't take it out on those of us that don't suck at everything.
 
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I'll make it even simpler for you. Urbanist policies, like all leftist utopian plans, don't have to successfully accomplish their goals in order to ruin people's lives. Millions of walkable apartments don't have to be built before urbanist policies start having real effects; their effect on housing prices and congestion are felt immediately. Just because your utopia hasn't come to fruition doesn't mean that you haven't wrecked millions of people's standard of living in pursuit of it.
What you wrongly attribute to urbanism is mostly just NIMBYism. What kind of urbanism is it if you don’t actually build urban stuff?

You constantly bring up straw urbanism, anyway. If your idea of urbanism is just obstructionism indistinguishable from tree-huggers and NIMBYs, then I am not urbanist. I might be some kind of build-stuff-ist. Or something.

Also, this could explain your absurd claim there are (anglophone) cities where urbanists are in control, which I don’t think is true. When urbanism is defined as making things worse with no upside whatsoever, there’s plenty of cities with urbanists in control.

That's illegal thanks to urban growth boundaries to "protect the environment", which is something that you support
I am not an environmentalist NIMBY either. You may have noticed I proposed building several new Berlins. I am a fan of building more stuff, I am not a fan of not building more stuff.

The kind of “urban growth boundary” I like is when you build enough medium-rise stuff downtown that new demand for suburban houses doesn’t need new suburban houses: people who like the new medium rises move out of the suburbs and more people move in to the suburbs to replace them. You can still build new suburbs if there is demand for it, be my guest.

Since commercial real estate sprawls as well, commute time isn't a limiting factor for city size. We are nowhere close to consuming all available land except for in a handful of areas surrounded by oceans or mountains. Why restrict building and cause the price of housing to rise now just because you personally dislike cars and sprawl?
If what you say is true, why do commute times swell dramatically in sprawling cities? Are people stupid and don’t work in nearby strip malls and business parks? The ideal of decentralized jobs just doesn’t match up with reality. Most jobs, particularly good, well-paying jobs want to locate next to other jobs. The larger your commuting area, the better (worse?) it gets. It’s wrecking millions of people’s standard of living, especially for people who are not particularly fond of driving hours per day just to be able to work. But I guess it’s a good kind of wrecking. You know, with car wrecks?

The “suck it up and drive” rhetoric about people who are anxious or for any other reason not fond of driving around all day is a big reason why America has such high traffic accidents stats. The best way to improve the quality of drivers is to let people who have no business driving not drive if they don’t want to. Fewer, better drivers is not only safer but more efficient for highway traffic.

Also, I still don’t get why you accuse me of wanting to not build stuff. Just build stuff. From my first post in this chain, I advocate building more of all kinds of stuff. Including the good stuff that doesn’t accommodate cars much, but apparently you insist that everything should put the car first. Literally just don’t drive to places that suck to drive in. Your life isn’t getting wrecked by it. Do you complain this much about every single suburb that suck to drive for through traffic? Because a ton of them block through routes and do traffic calming and you already cope with it by not driving there in the first place.

Try not using covid numbers. Housing prices in Texas and other free states went up a ton in the last year because they had far more immigration than normal due to people fleeing draconian lockdown states. Their housing prices will stabilize or fall as the construction industry deals with their unexcepted demand spike. They also don't have a multi year waiting list for apartments like many European cities do.
Cope.

I hope you’re right, but I am not as optimistic.
 
What you wrongly attribute to urbanism is mostly just NIMBYism. What kind of urbanism is it if you don’t actually build urban stuff?
They do build stuff, just only stuff they like because they’ve banned the building of anything else.
You constantly bring up straw urbanism, anyway. If your idea of urbanism is just obstructionism indistinguishable from tree-huggers and NIMBYs, then I am not urbanist. I might be some kind of build-stuff-ist. Or something.
If you support a true free market urban environment where everyone can build whatever they want, then you are not an urbanist. Most urbanists claim to want a free market but balk when asked if they’d support the repeal of urban growth boundaries, parking maximums, and transit subsidies, which reveals that stance as a lie to try and convince libertarians to support their ideology.
Also, this could explain your absurd claim there are (anglophone) cities where urbanists are in control, which I don’t think is true. When urbanism is defined as making things worse with no upside whatsoever, there’s plenty of cities with urbanists in control.
Examples of American cities controlled by urbanists include and are not limited to, Portland, Seattle, and Austin. The level of control they have varies: Portland has made it illegal to build on rural land unless you’re an active commercial farmer, and Austin is held in check by their sane state government, but they are all ruled by people with the same ideology (i.e. /r/fuckcars subscribers). The policies I described are realities in many cities around the world and are done out of hatred for cars rather than love for other modes of transport. I’ve seen urbanists complain about Japanese infrastructure that theoretically checks all of their boxes because the Japanese aren’t anti-car and also built expressways and roads with more than one lane.
Also, I still don’t get why you accuse me of wanting to not build stuff. Just build stuff. From my first post in this chain, I advocate building more of all kinds of stuff. Including the good stuff that doesn’t accommodate cars much, but apparently you insist that everything should put the car first.
You originally asked why there was pushback. I gave you the answer, and you took it as a personal attack. I never insisted that everything should always put the car first, only that in reality, urbanists tend to ban anything that isn’t anti-car. I’m actually in favor of a true free market. Most urbanists are NIMBYs (or rather NIYBYs) and your point of view, if you’re being honest, is the minority amongst them.
Literally just don’t drive to places that suck to drive in. Your life isn’t getting wrecked by it. Do you complain this much about every single suburb that suck to drive for through traffic? Because a ton of them block through routes and do traffic calming and you already cope with it by not driving there in the first place.
My life is negatively affected by it if places I go to suddenly become more difficult to get to because some connected people have a mindless hatred for cars. Note that I said more difficult to get to, not more difficult to drive to; in these urbanist run cities, 10 minute drives become 25 minute transit trips.
If what you say is true, why do commute times swell dramatically in sprawling cities? Are people stupid and don’t work in nearby strip malls and business parks? The ideal of decentralized jobs just doesn’t match up with reality. Most jobs, particularly good, well-paying jobs want to locate next to other jobs. The larger your commuting area, the better (worse?) it gets.
They don’t. The US has lower commute times than other OECD countries:
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Also, no one cares that their company’s office tower is right next door to their competitors. Jobs have been distributed fairly evenly throughout sprawling metro areas since the invention of the office park.

There is way too much off topic discussion about urbanism in this thread that is supposed to be about stupid things redditors say.
 
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commuting in urban areas via car sucks
i can assure you that commuting in urban areas via bus sucks ten times more
not only are you losing even more time, you also spend that time standing in a tightly packed crowd of loud and smelly retards instead of sitting in the comfort of your own private car
also walking to and from the bus stop leaves you exposed to the elements a lot longer than getting in and out of your car would, and you can't really take anything that's large or heavy with you on the bus either
 
Reddit "There's no attack on Christianity"
Also Reddit "we need the Christian right to pay for this and also take away their kids!!!"
I am a pro-life man. But I know many women who are pro-life. Hell most of the pro-life marches are made up of women. Infact I see alot of pretty women at the marches.

Have you ever noticed when theirs a pro-abortion rallies. The non ugly people at the protest are the celebrities they invite and everyone else looks like they came form Mordor.

I remmber my sister went to both marches one year to get a feel of the events. She said she liked the pro-life March better because it was more positive.
 
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LMAO it is really telling how much they seethe at white kids, overpopulation seems to only ever be a problem when it's white people.

For reference, a black friend of mine told me his father has 10 siblings and his mother 9, (0 halfsiblings in there).
He does not know all of his cousins and some have kids which are already his age.

But something tells me Reddit would react quite different to a picture of his family.
 
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Imagine being so fucked in the head that you can't recognize this is just a picture of multiple generations and actually indicates a slowdown in population growth for just this family. The people who got married 60 years ago had six kids. Each of their kids seem to have had no more than three kids. The oldest of those kids seem to have had no more than two kids at most so far.
 
So according to this moron, every Republican woman or Pro-Life woman is anti-woman? I knew redditors were stupid, but this takes the cake.
Because "woman" is a political term now that is defined by being pro-abortion, pro-transwomen, and pro-sex workers. If you're against any of those three, you're officially anti-woman. Kinda makes me feel old-fashioned for hating women just because they won't shut their damn yaps
 
Because "woman" is a political term now that is defined by being pro-abortion, pro-transwomen, and pro-sex workers. If you're against any of those three, you're officially anti-woman. Kinda makes me feel old-fashioned for hating women just because they won't shut their damn yaps
I love how lefties somehow made pro-sex worker a pro-women thing. When you would think that would be seen as demeaning towards women.
 
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