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CrunkLord420 said:
It's easy to avoid scary thoughts when you can just make up arguments I didn't make. Though, imagine arguing that whether or not you use a corporate-walled-garden site like reddit versus a fringe darknet-only traditional forum is a random distribution with no correlation to autonomy.
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It was a joke. A little self deprecation never hurt. Lol calm down, janny.
 
AssignedEva said:
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This guys hammer analogy is retarded, the real solution is to give the hammer to someone else. But I guess reddit jannies either think they really are un-replaceable or more like they just don't want to give up their one source of power over others.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
... I think you spend too much time on Reddit. I could care less if they burn their userbase to the ground. I don't fucking use reddit. This is comedy gold to me. I am treating how I see reddit like any other business, that just so happens to coincide with making the jannies mad. As long as the Reddit admins don't directly target the Farms, I really don't care what they do with their little hive.
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Look, I agree, and I'm not trying to be an autist, but in recent years reddit has done a really good job disguising just how much they are directing shit. While I recognize we all want reddit blow up, it's important to remember that reddit is not organic and they pull a lot of smoke and mirrors shit, and they kind of like this stuff happening a little because it gives the impression there IS a neat line between mods and admins that the admins respect. This kind of protest just validates the admins and helps "hide the puppet strings."

Leaks from Merari01 (I cannot recall where they are or where to find them anymore, I think I saw them on Twitter) indicated that the Challenor blackout took the admins by surprise with their pants down and they put things into place to make sure it wouldn't happen again. They're allowing this protest to continue on so it gives the impression users still have some sort of say on their communities. If the admins were afraid of this protest, they'd have found a way to prevent it. The fact that these protests are so lukewarm is due to all the interventions they've done over the years.

Reddit is literally the website that pioneered "shadowbanning" so that users don't know they are secretly banned off the site.

I'll tell you one thing though. They're definitely paying attention to who led blackouts on their higher profile subs. They will find their accounts banned eventually.
 
Harbinger of Kali Yuga said:
Look, I agree, and I'm not trying to be an autist, but in recent years reddit has done a really good job disguising just how much they are directing shit. While I recognize we all want reddit blow up, it's important to remember that reddit is not organic and they pull a lot of smoke and mirrors shit, and they kind of like this stuff happening a little because it gives the impression there IS a neat line between mods and admins that the admins respect. This kind of protest just validates the admins and helps "hide the puppet strings."

Leaks from Merari01 (I cannot recall where they are or where to find them anymore, I think I saw them on Twitter) indicated that the Challenor blackout took the admins by surprise with their pants down and they put things into place to make sure it wouldn't happen again. They're allowing this protest to continue on so it gives the impression users still have some sort of say on their communities. If the admins were afraid of this protest, they'd have found a way to prevent it. The fact that these protests are so lukewarm is due to all the interventions they've done over the years.

Reddit is literally the website that pioneered "shadowbanning" so that users don't know they are secretly banned off the site.

I'll tell you one thing though. They're definitely paying attention to who led blackouts on their higher profile subs. They will find their accounts banned eventually.
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I don't doubt for a second the bullshit meter is off the charts, if anything its a open secret. Which is all the more reason i'm laughing instead of seething. They're only now getting off their asses to crush these protests because they had no countermeasures in place. Its hilarious. And what is it over, really? A couple ads when all you have to do is sign in on the web browser and use ad block? Their porn getting messed with? That's what they're upset about? First world issues is a understatement. Let Reddit get a taste of the shit we've had to deal with for years, they deserve it, the car hating fucks.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
I don't doubt for a second the bullshit meter is off the charts, if anything its a open secret. Which is all the more reason i'm laughing instead of seething. They're only now getting off their asses to crush these protests because they had no countermeasures in place. Its hilarious. And what is it over, really? A couple ads when all you have to do is sign in on the web browser and use ad block? Their porn getting messed with? That's what they're upset about? First world issues is a understatement. Let Reddit get a taste of the shit we've had to deal with for years, they deserve it, the car hating fucks.
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Oh, absolutely, I think this is more about reddit users in general vs the admins and not so much a mods vs admins thing. It's just really important to note just how fake reddit's community is. Redditors are sheep, even the mods, and the admins are the Afghani shepherds with a penchant for beastiality.

I also have a very personal reason to hate reddit that all of you would understand if I could tell it, but it could potentially signal who I am to reddit's mod/admin inner circle. It's not that interesting, but I got my good reasons, and lets just say if I told it, you'd get it. Among many things it showed me just how close the top mods and admins are and how they must talk and gossip.
 
Harbinger of Kali Yuga said:
Oh, absolutely, I think this is more about reddit users in general vs the admins and not so much a mods vs admins thing. It's just really important to note just how fake reddit's community is. Redditors are sheep, even the mods, and the admins are the Afghani shepherds with a penchant for beastiality.

I also have a very personal reason to hate reddit that all of you would understand if I could tell it, but it could potentially signal who I am to reddit's mod/admin inner circle. It's not that interesting, but I got my good reasons, and lets just say if I told it, you'd get it. Among many things it showed me just how close the top mods and admins are and how they must talk and gossip.
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Bro, if you're some admin/top jannie, i'm saying this as a matter of the fourm: Pics or GTFO. Even if they're highly, HIGHLY censored, don't hold back on that milk. At least let some of the staff in on this shit
 
WelperHelper99 said:
Bro, if you're some admin/top jannie, i'm saying this as a matter of the fourm: Pics or GTFO. Even if they're highly, HIGHLY censored, don't hold back on that milk. At least let some of the staff in on this shit
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I'm not, and it's not like that. I was affiliated with some free speech/anti sjw subs at one time. There were a lot of them and a lot of little cliques running them. Let's just say I was accused of something I didn't do, behind the scenes, that had real-world ramifications that pissed me off pretty good, and it came from what had to have been talk between mods and cancer mods and admins. There's nothing you wouldn't already know here, I have no scandal to bust wide-open. Just a personal grudge against some bad people.
 
sum ting wong said:
This guys hammer analogy is retarded, the real solution is to give the hammer to someone else. But I guess reddit jannies either think they really are un-replaceable or more like they just don't want to give up their one source of power over others.
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Yes, and a lot of casual users are seeing that plain as day.

For example, /r/gaming just reopened with this piece of autism:
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We are aware that reddit is not performing to our standards for a percentage of our users, in particular those with mobile devices using certain 3rd-party applications.
For example Redditors using cutting edge applications like Apollo and RIF will experience problems starting on July 1st, as Reddit has decided to effectively kill off 3rd party API usage through exorbitant access fees. Rest assured that Reddit has made no indication that they care about the users who rely on these 3rd party applications for accessibility, moderation, or even general use.
Additionally, current CEO /u/spez has decided to trivialize the efforts of thousands of subreddits who are protesting both his shortsighted decisions, as well as his willingness to blatantly lie about his interactions with 3rd party developers (see: Steven Huffman lies about Apollo Developer threats).
Because of this ongoing situation, these intermittent blackout periods - as well as other methods of protest - may continue across all of Reddit. We appreciate your patience at this time.
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I can't even start unpacking the autism going on here, although I do especially like that they've tried to create a sort of official letterhead for /r/gaming. Anyway the thread is full of people calling them out for proving spez right that the protest was pointless and they've reopened because they don't want to lose their mod status and be replaced. There's also entertainingly quite a lot of people asking what the big deal with the official app is because they've never used any 3rd party app (and when invited to try, "why would I try something that's about to shut down").

While spez is an absolute dickhead, he's taking the necessary steps to monetise reddit (the forced app isn't just about advertising revenue, but also about the fact 3rd party apps - like old reddit - short-circuit all the other monetisation features like buying stickers you can reward people with or buying little hats and outfits for your reddit snoo avatar or the reddit premium membership that opts you out of adverts - none of these things show up on most 3rd party apps).

The people who really really care about this are autistic people who don't like their app being changed, and mods who don't want their moderation tools broken (which now mostly aren't being broken, but again, autistic people don't like change) - and then people who rely on accessibility functions like screenreaders because they're blind. The third group aren't the reason all these subreddits went dark, but it gives the first two groups social justice points to pretend otherwise. Most people who use reddit just don't really care that much and are annoyed their subs went dark and are potentially going dark again (but in a way that won't mean the mods will stop being mods).
 
I was hoping this blackout lasted forever, or at least to make reddit irrelevant again. Both for the jokes about it and because forums have always been a better media than reddit.
Harbinger of Kali Yuga said:
Reddit is too far gone
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One of the many hints that reddit was completely gone from what is was is when Aaron Swartz's name was removed from the founders' list (unless they've reimplemented it, but I don't care enough since it's not the point)
Fools Idol said:
Wouldn't be happening if the Internet wasn't fully centralized.
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Indeed. It would also be nice if those idiots over at 4chan's /g/ wouldn't praise centralization so much.
 
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When reddit jannies off themselves, the others will not be able to comprehend that reddit now has a higher body count than "we do". Thats when the dam breaks.
 
Glowie Hunter Art Bell said:
The reality is that anyone with any sort of common sense, direction or a spine bounced the fuck out of reddit long ago and the whole site is a glorified instagram comments section
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Where did they all go, though? This site is temporarily off the clearnet and Funnyjunk is largely forgotten, and not a lot of other sites allow unimpeded discussion.
 
Betonhaus said:
Where did they all go, though? This site is temporarily off the clearnet and Funnyjunk is largely forgotten, and not a lot of other sites allow unimpeded discussion.
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They were systemically banned by the admins as they introduced deliberately vague and subjective rules. If they wanted someone taken cared of, they'd go through their posting history and find a reason. Sometimes they were banned without any reason given. I don't know when this was but at some point the reddit admins got a lot less strict about when and how they'd ban or delete posts. I know long-time mods that were a thorn in the side for the reddit admins (due to the subs they modded, etc) that one day logged in and found themselves banned, no post associated with the ban, no contact, no reason given, nothin'.
 
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