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[Betonhaus]

Also what the fuck are these moderators doing that they need tools that do more than 100 API calls a minute? Seriously moderating is looking at a post and deciding if you delete or ban the user

Possibly multiple mods using the same tool, or mods that are actively trying to control the site with stuff like fake comments to manufacture consensus and flagging posts on far off subreddits to brigade

 

[Catloaf]

Reminder that Reddit powerjannies are pathetic without their mod powers. Too optimistic but I really hope that Redditors vote powerjannies out.

 

[AnOminous]

Reminder that Reddit powerjannies are pathetic without their mod powers. Too optimistic but I really hope that Redditors vote powerjannies out.

Fuck these crybullies. They don't give a shit if anyone they ban over nothing is socially isolated or whatever so why do they expect any mercy?

 

[MAPK phosphatase]

This may be an unpopular opinion but I believe everyone involved in this story should die.

I know it's been said before but I lament what Reddit did to the diversity of forums on the internet. The network effect is just too powerful, as was the allure of "free" hosting. A forum that would normally be only 300 people could suddenly become 3,000 simply because their community was easier to discover and participate in on reddit. Same thing with YouTube. It's easier to attract people on an existing platform than it is to convince someone to create an account for your bespoke forum.

But this had an insidious effect. Larger communities are more active, but past a certain point they loose the small community feel and turn to sludge. The up-vote format speeds up the process, and reddit-style moderation puts a brick on the gas pedal. Reddit these days isn't a way to grow your niche community, it's an efficient way to turn your community to sludge. Turns out those barriers to entry weren't a liability, they were an asset.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

. The up-vote format speeds up the process, and reddit-style moderation puts a brick on the gas pedal.

They become spammed with attention-seeking posts and memes and reddit already isn't designed to look for older posts. r/datahoarder is a trudge to scroll through to find only one informational post. The rest is tech support, check out my setup, and (rarely) political archiving calls to action. The popular The_Archivist account bailed out of datahoarder due to the political nature of the archiving outside of porn, mainstream youtube, and movies. Not sure if he's active there again.
So many google search suggestions have reddit appended on them because google results are flooded with spam websites, particularly for product reviews. I've resorted to creating a personal archive of solutions posted on reddit in case something happens like the sub going private or banned.

 

[WULULULULU]

This may be an unpopular opinion but I believe everyone involved in this story should die.

I know it's been said before but I lament what Reddit did to the diversity of forums on the internet. The network effect is just too powerful, as was the allure of "free" hosting. A forum that would normally be only 300 people could suddenly become 3,000 simply because their community was easier to discover and participate in on reddit. Same thing with YouTube. It's easier to attract people on an existing platform than it is to convince someone to create an account for your bespoke forum.

But this had an insidious effect. Larger communities are more active, but past a certain point they loose the small community feel and turn to sludge. The up-vote format speeds up the process, and reddit-style moderation puts a brick on the gas pedal. Reddit these days isn't a way to grow your niche community, it's an efficient way to turn your community to sludge. Turns out those barriers to entry weren't a liability, they were an asset.

I've been fully convinced no one is worth a damn on reddit, hell you could say that to anyone who is part of the current internet (including 4chan given its a shell of its own self). What I can say however is that the burning here is more delicious and that their "collapse" is one good popcorn to not pass up.

Speaking of what you said, about bigger communities. Here is what I've noticed with certain subreddits that joined versus those that did NOT join.

• The Dark Souls (I-II), Bloodborne and Demons' Souls subreddits joined but Sekiro, Dark Souls III and Elden Ring did not (including Armored Core). With the exception of Elden Ring, the former 4 have bigger community counts than Sekiro and DSIII's subreddits (not counting the fact that DSIII has a "Return to Lothric" event, probably explaining why they didn't give a shit)
• The mainline Team Fortress 2 and PAYDAY subreddits went Restricted/Read Mode but their smaller subreddits such as tf2shitpostersclub and PaydayBuilds, which are smaller than their original branch subs, never joined and just focused as usual.
• /r/Anime was indefinitely shut down but various anime specific communities are still alive and kicking (of course, few joined the protest but its a small number like Danmachi). Same case with the main FGO and F/SN subreddits, privated but the smaller, character specific ones remains (also, small tidbit but Astolfo is still alive while all the femboy-related subreddits like VentiHentai were shutdown).
• Oddly enough, the only subreddits related to Valve that did not join was Half Life (because very few browse the place and became a fanart dump) and Counter Strike (not GlobalOffensive but that is specific to one CS game). All the others joined.
• On the other side of the spectrum, most of 40K subreddits (minus Grimdank, Eldar and LeaguesOfVotann as well as 30k) never joined but are all smaller, especially when compared to the obvious big guy that is Grimdank.

I'm definitely seeing a pattern of "too big to fail" subreddits joining while the small niche ones (some of them at least) just minding their own business.

 

[Smar Mijou]

Larger communities are more active, but past a certain point they loose the small community feel and turn to sludge. The up-vote format speeds up the process, and reddit-style moderation puts a brick on the gas pedal. Reddit these days isn't a way to grow your niche community, it's an efficient way to turn your community to sludge. Turns out those barriers to entry weren't a liability, they were an asset.

Aside from the decimation of forums alongside FB and other social media platforms, pReddit is even worse because if you piss off a tranny-janny and they go full-retard, your entire post history will disappear. You could be the only person in the world who has the cure for cancer, solution to world hunger, and a way towards world peace, and post it for all the world to see on pReddit... but if you say something "pRoBlEmAtIc" it'll be [deleted] and lost to the ether because some tranny got their feelings hurt.

I will say though that for now, YouTube is still good for things like vehicle and electric repair tutorials, if you can manage to sift through their algorithm-approved bullshit.

 

[MAPK phosphatase]

They become spammed with attention-seeking posts and memes and reddit already isn't designed to look for older posts. r/datahoarder is a trudge to scroll through to find only one informational post. The rest is tech support, check out my setup, and (rarely) political archiving calls to action.

I absolutely despise reddit brain.
The r/datahoarder situation just reminds me of how many subreddits would be substantially improved if they were a wiki with a regular forum attached.

I'm definitely seeing a pattern of "too big to fail" subreddits joining while the small niche ones (some of them at least) just minding their own business.

I've noticed this as well. I'd like to think that smaller communities have moderators that care about the community, but it may just be they actually understand they lack power in this situation. There's also probably a little bit of Robert Conquests 2nd law taking effect on the very large subreddits, but I don't want to too much.

I will say though that for now, YouTube is still good for things like vehicle and electric repair tutorials, if you can manage to sift through their algorithm-approved bullshit.

I bring up YouTube more as an example of the network effect in action and why competitors have such a hard time breaking in. But I agree that it does also produce a lot of garbage.

 

[anustart76]

how many subreddits would be substantially improved if they were a wiki with a regular forum attached

I would say the same about Discord too. The loss of traditional wikis and forums has been a disaster for information preservation.

 

[mister fireworks]

does the reddit app even suck that bad? i use the reddit only when i google something i need info on and of the top answers is reddit. its just too annoying to fuck with reading comments otherwise. How much reddit usage is necessary for one to find a lot of utility in one of the 3p apps.? Once you break the habit of scrolling any social media app and come back to it later, it feels like a retarded waste of time and you feel like youre in a twilight zone episode because everyone around you is doing it and they have this slack jawed expressionless face. KF fills the reddit shaped hole in my life and the lack of mobile app (and now especially on tor) is a sort of self-jannying supplementary mechanism.

 

[BlueSpark]

Spoiler: They do it for free

Jannys are delusional and think that reddit will die without them:



The free work these losers do is worth millions of dollars despite the fact that they could be replaced instantly with other free workers at any time:



The wrongthink is surging unabated without these brave jannys to mop it away:



Janny threatens a modern day burning of the Library of Alexandria (aka the jannys' post histories):



Doing it for free is now a badge of honour:



Jannys are gonna murder spez (but not the other, paid, reddit employees who all surely have the utmost respect for the upaid post-moppers):

Janny threatens to sabotage subreddits on the way out if his precious moderator duties are taken away (also lol at that last comment trying to insult prospective "scab" mods when it applies just as easily to the current retards):

I'LL DO IT, SPEZ! I'LL DELETE MY ACCOUNT I'M FUCKING CRAZY ENOUGH DON'T THINK I WON'T YOU FASCIST! WE JANNYS BUILT YOUR SITE AND WE 'LL TEAR IT DOWN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:

How do these stupid plebs not understand the plight of their janny overlords?:



We have the upvotes on our side, spez! You're outgunned!:



TCD:

Link to the thread and archive:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/14ahxda/reddit_threatens_to_remove_moderators_from/

https://web.archive.org/web/20230616075146/https://old.reddit.com/r/Save3rdPartyApps/comments/14ahxda/reddit_threatens_to_remove_moderators_from/

 

[whogoesthere]

Null was talking about all this reddit shit on his last stream. He mentioned a user, and he showed a sort of progression of trannydom and regret from a single user on reddit over a period of time. Now of course, this person is at the end of their tether. But the people who encouraged them along, I wonder if any of them realise that a year or so a go, the person they encouraged to be a tranny was a huge mistake and they hate themselves for it. Do those users ever find out that the things they say can have a real world reaction. Are any of the many posters who told this young man to do these things, will they have to help him pick up the pieces?

I hope the trannyjannies win, and I hope they continue to make reddit the shithole it has become, and the users being niggercattle that they are just accept it.

 

[Still Exceptional]

I'm actually loving the thought of Reddit putting a few boots up jannie asses. Reddit's moderators are the very definition of "mad with power." They thought they could basically hold the entire site hostage and deprive reddit of traffic for whatever reason they want. They did it over a subreddit for those skeptical of the coof, privating their communities until reddit gave them what they wanted. And guess what, reddit was dumb enough to do it. So they themselves taught those jannies that this behavior was acceptable.

Now it's affect their bottom line and they're mad. And so now the jannies are in the crosshairs and corporate is now seeing them as liabilities instead of assets and seem to be moving against them. I'm legit hoping that a lot of powermods lose everything they've obsessively built over this.

It's shaping up to be potentially beautiful.

 

[Baguette Child]

On what fucking planet would people be rooting for Reddit itself, a company so pozzed and globalist that the CCP owns a large stake in it through Tencent (regardless of how they try to spin it as a separate entity), to step on and oust people trying to prevent them from locking off 3rd party API use all so they can sell out even better?

I'm not rooting for anyone, I'm rooting against everyone. Reddit is unimportant tranny garbage and I am greatly enjoying all parties involved doing their best to fuck over one another.

 

[Catloaf]

Doing it for free is now a badge of honour:

Mods thinking they worth something when in fact they worth nothing contribute to nothing and doing it FOR FREE is fucking hilarious. It reminds me of the BPD ex that tells you "If you leave, you'll never find someone like me" or "If you leave I'll kill myself" but instead it's "if you demod me, you'll never find someone like me who'll do it FOR FREE" and "if you demod me, I'll remove all automod shit". Both sides are shitty, but if Reddit wanted to create automod bots, they certainly have the ability to make anyone else who is willing to do it for free.

I get it, humans have the need to feel like they did something or contributed to something. Jannies are trying to convince themselves (or people, but I doubt) that they are doing reddit a big favour by doing shit for free. As would Uncle Ted say, People have the need to fulfil the power process.

 

[Slur Generator]

Without women, your profit margin for ads is gonna be in the toilet, since they won't be buying shit unless it's funkos.

In general yes but it depends what the add is for. If its for supplements, crypto\ get rich quick schemes, that's overwhelmingly male.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

In general yes but it depends what the add is for. If its for supplements, crypto\ get rich quick schemes, that's overwhelmingly male.

if you have those types of advertisements either you're Alex Jones or you've already hit rock bottom

i think (hope) that the underlying story about all these things is that advertising is worth MUCH LESS than everyone thought, and the chickens are coming home to roost

 

[AssignedEva]

Also what the fuck are these moderators doing that they need tools that do more than 100 API calls a minute? Seriously moderating is looking at a post and deciding if you delete or ban the user

The mods are insisting they can't moderate without their favourite third party apps.
I'm (obviously) not a reddit mod, but going off the official website - in the official reddit app, to ban someone you need to have mod mode enabled, then either click on your subreddit mod tab and add them to a list of banned users, or click on their profile and then click to ban them.

Some of the 3rd party apps let you one-click ban people, including without opening the post;

The other main benefits third party apps have are creating a multifeed of modmail (users messaging the mods), mod queue (list of things that have been automoderated for approval or reported) and mod log (list of actions taken by other mods) so if you're moderating a bunch of massive subreddits you've got them all in one place. Likewise there's sometimes some integration with custom bots and other fancy features like highlighting posts from new reddit accounts or gesture control moderator actions (if you pay for Apollo Premium).

Basically only really impacting power tripping mods or the powermods who mod tonnes of subreddits, or who want to do unusual specific features on their phones on the fly like modifying other mods's access permissions easily (which can still be achieved through the browser). I think it's more that the powermods are used to being catered to by the admins, and when the API changes were brought up and the powermods were like "Spez my dude, can you roll this back please? I don't want to switch to the official app" they were confronted at how transactional their "powerful friendships" really were and couldn't handle being told no.

Mods thinking they worth something when in fact they worth nothing contribute to nothing and doing it FOR FREE is fucking hilarious. It reminds me of the BPD ex that tells you "If you leave, you'll never find someone like me" or "If you leave I'll kill myself" but instead it's "if you demod me, you'll never find someone like me who'll do it FOR FREE" and "if you demod me, I'll remove all automod shit". Both sides are shitty, but if Reddit wanted to create automod bots, they certainly have the ability to make anyone else who is willing to do it for free.

It's very BPD, which I guess shouldn't be surprising given the number of terminally online trannies involved (to the point where there's an insane network of tranny powermods that have control over a large number of large subreddits and also most lgbt subreddits, especially including the ones targeted towards lgbt youth; it's how Aimee Challenor got hired, he used to be a powermod who was friends with other powermods, and that's also how he met his paedophile polycule partners).

Reddit has an automoderator built in. It can blacklist keywords, remove highly reported content, assign link flair (like how some subreddits tag things behind a paywall), filter source links, restrict images in comments to users who've got high subreddit-specific karma (so are regular posters), schedule regular posts (like a daily megathread), /r/4chan used it to automatically PM Avengers: Endgame spoilers to anyone who commented...

There's a few features it doesn't have, which is why third party bots are a thing, for example scanning image submissions with a neural net and automatically removing posts that it thinks are porn, or reading a chain of single letter comments to see if people were spelling out a no-no word. The main feature is automatically banning people (automod doesn't ban). BotDefense does it based on accounts that are frequently reported to it as spam (like those auto-reply bots) but the most popular bots (SaferBot/SafestBot) are the ones that let mods ban anyone from their subreddits if they post in no-no subreddits. This is legitimately a feature that a lot of people have a big issue with, and it has been argued in the past is a breach of mod rules. The mods say it's to combat "brigading".

Reddit argues it has its own features to combat brigading - "crowd control" (auto-collapse comments from non-regular users) and automod rules to remove posts from people who aren't regulars - but the powermods like auto-banning anyone from wrongthink subreddits either to enforce groupthink or literally just to punish TERFs for daring to TERF or whatever.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I guarantee you one of the changes reddit is going to make in the near-term is keep internal version control of posts (if they don't already have them) so they can undelete any posts they want in case a future protest tries to revive the idea.

They already have them. You can prove it really easily, go on reddit, make the most basic subreddit, make a post, delete it, and you'll still see it (as the subreddit's mod) with options to undelete it.

The best protest strategy imo was the mass self-deleting of comments and submissions.

I agree. While Reddit could always reverse it, that'd take time, and you can probably delete faster (given more people) than they can undelete.

This one really hurts, I went from using it almost daily to forgetting it existed until you just mentioned it as it can't even reverse search movie titles anymore from screen shots of the movie because they gimped it so hard.

Yandex still has a decent image reverse feature if you don't mind using Russian spyware instead of bad US spyware.

in complete denial and insisting they "can't be replaced"

How are they this retarded? I mean, maybe us A&N mods could try and pull something like this, people who are retarded enough to moderate A&N have always been difficult to come by (though, obviously we are still replaceable), but they don't have even that.

This is your reddit powermod pre-transition, lol.

How come he looks like an bootleg Idubz mixed with a bit of Mitten Squad?

Reddit has already said they are allowing the Accessibility apps to continue free of charge or at least with a heavily reduced cost to use API, which means the only reason to keep the blackout going is because of the lack of mass moderation tools,

Even then, they already made most of that free:

https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/141oqn8/api_updates_questions/

https://mods.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/16693988535309

Unless you pay to use a different version of Reddit, at which case, lol.

That deserves to be archived here:
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That's pretty bigoted, why won't she accept her parents new gender?

Janny threatens a modern day burning of the Library of Alexandria (aka the jannys' post histories):

They realize Reddit can restore that, right?

I'LL DO IT, SPEZ! I'LL DELETE MY ACCOUNT I'M FUCKING CRAZY ENOUGH DON'T THINK I WON'T YOU FASCIST! WE JANNYS BUILT YOUR SITE AND WE 'LL TEAR IT DOWN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE:

What the fuck is "crypto-fascisim?"

 

[WelperHelper99]

In general yes but it depends what the add is for. If its for supplements, crypto\ get rich quick schemes, that's overwhelmingly male.

You first need money to get Crypto, or at least a beefy rig to start mining. I guess they could advertise computer parts, if the male redditors could afford it