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AnOminous said:
Because that's idiotic and utterly misses the point of philosophical antinatalism. I know you're responding to redditors, and their viewpoint is completely incoherent, but the general thrust of antinatalism is that the net value of a completely random person being born is negative.

It decreases the amount of value in the world. It is thus a mistake to bring another person into the world.

How exactly does killing yourself fix this? Perhaps despite the inherent problem of being born at all, you're actually enjoying life. So you could kill yourself. Then, you remove your own enjoyment of life, as well as inflicting permanent pain on everyone who ever cared about you.

How does that fix the problem? It doesn't. You can't retroactively cancel your own existence, nor can you erase the fact that you existed at all. All you'd be doing is erasing any enjoyment you were having while simultaneously inflicting pointless pain on everyone around you.

Sorry, your post definitely adequately addresses redditards, but you did it using reddit logic yourself.

Suicide is not the answer to existential quandaries.
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The main problem is that most people don't understand the difference between "antinatalism" and "childfree".

People who believe in antinatalism actually don't hate children, in fact, they actually feel sympathy for most of them that got to be born in an awful place with no food, shelter and sometimes horrible parents. I've read a few posts in the actual antinatalism subreddit, and while you get your political spergeries about Trump and some of them believe that all children = annoying brats, most of them actually just want to reduce the suffering in the world by having less people on it... which I think it's a little retarded, but I can kinda see where they are coming from. They usually never complain about families who actually can provide a safe and good household besides "they're making animals suffer and produce a lot of trash", but that would be an another story.

Childfree people however, at least the reddit variety, are some of the absolutely most repulsive people I've read online. Most of these people are basically manchildren who hate anyone from the age of 0-17. If there's a family with 8 children, with everyone happy, and 0 financial problems? "Look at these stupid breeders that aren't allowed the many joys of life like smoking weed and buying funko pops lol, how sad that they must give up their freedom to engage in limitless hedonistic actions to take care of dumb children that scream at you for free!". Being antinatalist to them is just an excuse to hate on children, they never actually believe in the net value of being born and how humans are making the planet suffer, they just hate that they're actual adults and that they can't enjoy a pure hedonistic lifestyle.

Basically, one feels bad for people being born, and the other hates newborns, because anything that gives you any responsibility should be avoided, and what else could give someone more responsibility than taking care of their own offspring? Why do that when I can use that time to consoom more product?
 
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A man comes to the classic cars reddit and claims to own Pontiac.

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Meet Devon Xavier Beck, the new CEO of Pontiac. I thought that to be a 'CEO' you'd have to answer a board of directors but maybe he didn't think of this as hard as I did.
 
Maurice Maine said:
A man comes to the classic cars reddit and claims to own Pontiac.

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Meet Devon Xavier Beck, the new CEO of Pontiac. I thought that to be a 'CEO' you'd have to answer a board of directors but maybe he didn't think of this as hard as I did.
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("How is This Possible? Aren’t You Just a Fan? 🔥

Great question—let’s address the skepticism right away:

“You don’t own Pontiac. How can you bring it back?”
GM owns the trademark, but Pontiac isn’t producing vehicles. Brands can be revived under new ownership models, just like DeLorean, Hummer, and Fisker. I’m building a fully independent Pontiac Motor Company with community-driven backing.

“Is GM involved?”
Not yet, but they have the option to join later. Our mission is to prove demand, develop real prototypes, and push for a full-scale production revival—whether under Pontiac’s existing name or as an independent muscle car brand. ")


I believe this nigger might be retarded.
 
@Metallic Blood Nah, there's a lot of cross-pollination between antinatalists and childfrees on Peddit and the subs share a lot of gegbulls and usually the only difference between the two is the first has some philosophical justification for thinking that having kids LE VERY HECKIN BAD while the other is just "DAE EVERYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 20 A USELESS AND DISGUSTING CROTCHFRUIT? WHY CAN'T WE OUTLAW BREEDING, WE LIVE IN 21st HECKIN CENTURY? KILL EVERY BREEDER AND THEIR SPAWN FOR TAKING MY CONSUMER GOODS". So the former is coming from a place of pity (in a fake and gay Peddit way) and the other just holds kids and people who procreate in contempt, but at the core they're very similar.
 
Metallic Blood said:
They usually never complain about families who actually can provide a safe and good household besides "they're making animals suffer and produce a lot of trash", but that would be an another story.
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Metallic Blood said:
Basically, one feels bad for people being born, and the other hates newborns, because anything that gives you any responsibility should be avoided, and what else could give someone more responsibility than taking care of their own offspring? Why do that when I can use that time to consoom more product?
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You're giving antinatalists far too much credit. They're still just nihilistic retards who think that their gay ideology justifies human extinction. Make no mistake, these faggots don't want anyone to have children. There are dozens of posts from them desiring that daddy government pass some new law to stop the 'breeders' from destroying the planet.
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Caligura said:
What was this written, 2011? Redditors hate cops because of muh ACAB despite the fact that their alternatives are quite literally just cops in all but name.
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I remember someone saying that they hated cops because they wanted to commit crimes but who are you fooling, these guys don't go outside
 
Mac Monster said:
You're giving antinatalists far too much credit. They're still just nihilistic retards who think that their gay ideology justifies human extinction. Make no mistake, these faggots don't want anyone to have children. There are dozens of posts from them desiring that daddy government pass some new law to stop the 'breeders' from destroying the planet.
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Ah don't get me wrong, I think antinatalism is a retarded ideology all around, because like you said, they believe that human extinction (and sometimes ANY animal extinction) is a good thing as it causes less overall suffering in the universe... whatever that's supposed to actually mean. But I believe there's a difference between retards who believe that their self-righteous "human extinction" philosophy is right and manchildren who hate kids but wants to be treated better than 0 year olds who can't even talk.

I just think the latter is more of a laughing stock than the former, since it's easier to laugh at a guy who advocates for birth policies because they want to buy their toys and enjoy public spaces with less children in sight rather than some oddly spiritual "nobody can consent being born" and "we must reduce the amount of suffering of the world by having less people on it... because we should ok!!!".

But again, both are laughable.
 
Evil Peter Griffin said:
Here Redditors learn that most people don't agree with them.
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One of the comments still tries to imply that trooning out kids is just "regular healthcare", that kids can consent to it and that it improves children's lives despite mounting evidence to the contrary.

Fedposting here, but this level of malicious delusion is why I no longer see this kind of leftists as human, and I honsetly would be happy if they gave up the ghost.
 
Dasjas Watanid Tabas said:
@Metallic Blood Nah, there's a lot of cross-pollination between antinatalists and childfrees on Peddit and the subs share a lot of gegbulls and usually the only difference between the two is the first has some philosophical justification for thinking that having kids LE VERY HECKIN BAD while the other is just "DAE EVERYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 20 A USELESS AND DISGUSTING CROTCHFRUIT? WHY CAN'T WE OUTLAW BREEDING, WE LIVE IN 21st HECKIN CENTURY? KILL EVERY BREEDER AND THEIR SPAWN FOR TAKING MY CONSUMER GOODS". So the former is coming from a place of pity (in a fake and gay Peddit way) and the other just holds kids and people who procreate in contempt, but at the core they're very similar.
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I honestly think the whole no kids thing is a smokescreen. In fact, you can throw in porn addiction and a healthy dose of "most of reddit" and stack it all up next to a picture of a spliff.

I think because you do not OD and die on it, people just think of it as harmless. Perhaps in a few more years we can get a real exposure on how damaging weed has been and in so many different ways.
 
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