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holyhandgrenade said:
correctly interpreting reality and what the left is actually doing vs what they claim to be doing does mean we are calling them evil yes. Don't make me post the meme.
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"When the left calls out the fucked up shit we do they call us evil, when we call out the fucked up shit they do and call them degenerates and other insults it's just 'observing reality'" and you apparently couldn't link to one of those studies you based your argument on.

Cope and sneed.
 
a kiwifarms user said:
"When the left calls out the fucked up shit we do they call us evil, when we call out the fucked up shit they do and call them degenerates and other insults it's just 'observing reality'" and you apparently couldn't link to one of those studies you based your argument on.

Cope and sneed.
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I don't think you need a study to know that leftist is based, fundamentally, on the denial of reality.
 
LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
Punk is the most limp-wristed, soycucked, safe edgy genre in existence.

The average punk rocker expends more time and energy trying to censor and brownbeat other artists and music fans with lame moralfaggotry than they spend on their actual music.
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Punk died in the 2000s. The final stage of punk was pop punk because it was self aware about fucking around and having fun. It was childish, but it was just dudes being dudes for the most part. Bands like Blink 182 and Bowling for soup took the concept of punk and made it a joke. When your "outsider" movement becomes main stream the only option left to rebel against it is to laugh at it and how dumb it's become. Punk was never truly outsider music, it was edgy counter culture at best any way. Wear something edgy and make Granny complain music.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
Punk died in the 2000s. The final stage of punk was pop punk because it was self aware about fucking around and having fun. It was childish, but it was just dudes being dudes for the most part. Bands like Blink 182 and Bowling for soup took the concept of punk and made it a joke. When your "outsider" movement becomes main stream the only option left to rebel against it is to laugh at it and how dumb it's become. Punk was never truly outsider music, it was edgy counter culture at best any way. Wear something edgy and make Granny complain music.
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punk was born dead, at least to its own standards since it was used as a marketing gimmick and just another fashion fad from the very start. Already in the 80s there was a thing like post-punk and it was essentially just another form of pop music.

At least the 2000s pop punk bands were actually fun teen boy music instead of whiny vegans singing about drinking soy. The "hardcore" scene ended up being lamer and gayer than the mainstream pop version.
 
Kofi Drinka said:
Punk died in the 2000s. The final stage of punk was pop punk because it was self aware about fucking around and having fun. It was childish, but it was just dudes being dudes for the most part. Bands like Blink 182 and Bowling for soup took the concept of punk and made it a joke. When your "outsider" movement becomes main stream the only option left to rebel against it is to laugh at it and how dumb it's become. Punk was never truly outsider music, it was edgy counter culture at best any way. Wear something edgy and make Granny complain music.
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my impression is that over time most of the people who liked punk rock for the actual music (fast, hard, loud, distorted guitars) left it behind and became metalheads, because metal with its dozens of subgenres is where you can find that type of music in much higher quality and with much more variety.
the people who stuck with punk instead were the ones who didn't care that much about the music itself and were more interested in the aesthetic of being a loudmouthed contrarian who larps about being a 'rebel' against society and has to let everyone know about it.
 
DumbDude43 said:
my impression is that over time most of the people who liked punk rock for the actual music (fast, hard, loud, distorted guitars) left it behind and became metalheads, because metal with its dozens of subgenres is where you can find that type of music in much higher quality and with much more variety.
the people who stuck with punk instead were the ones who didn't care that much about the music itself and were more interested in the aesthetic of being a loudmouthed contrarian who larps about being a 'rebel' against society and has to let everyone know about it.
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Music fags always do this with music and try to put it all into weird niche genres to say how special they are. Metal and punk have so much overlap any sane grouping would put them together. People listen to more than 1 genre of music and as you said those two genres were very close enough to not even need splitting apart.

LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said:
At least the 2000s pop punk bands were actually fun teen boy music instead of whiny vegans singing about drinking soy. The "hardcore" scene ended up being lamer and gayer than the mainstream pop version.
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There's a lot of modern punk bands recording in really low quality. They want to mimic the cheap run down systems they used in the 70s so you get music that's barely listenable.
 
The real question is what does this have to do with r/teenagers? If I asked this comment on Reddit these people would say "A lot of "queer" trans teens in Kansas will be affected by this law". The most vanilla response that has no backing to it whatso ever.
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