Culture Reddit Officially Bans /r/ChapoTrapHouse and /r/The_Donald - More than 2,000 communities are being removed on Monday for violating Reddit’s new content policies

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Reddit will ban r/The_Donald, r/ChapoTrapHouse, and about 2,000 other communities today after updating its content policy to more explicitly ban hate speech. The policy update comes three weeks after Black Lives Matter protests led several popular Reddit forums to go dark temporarily in protest of what they called the company’s lax policies around hosting and promoting racist content. It marks a major reversal for a company whose commitment to free expression has historically been so strong that it once allowed users to distribute stolen nude photos freely on the site.

“I have to admit that I’ve struggled with balancing my values as an American, and around free speech and free expression, with my values and the company’s values around common human decency,” Reddit CEO Steve Huffman said in a call with reporters.

In a blog post that cites the company’s new rules, Huffman said users of the r/The_Donald subreddit had violated the site’s policies for years. (The site has no official connection to President Donald Trump, although he did do an Ask Me Anything there as a candidate in 2016.) “The community has consistently hosted and upvoted more rule-breaking content than average (Rule 1), antagonized us and other communities (Rules 2 and 8), and its mods have refused to meet our most basic expectations,” Huffman said.

Similarly, r/ChapoTrapHouse had also hosted content that violates the site’s rules, Huffman said. The subreddit is a spinoff of the popular left-wing podcast.

Reddit’s new policy begins with a first rule that requires users to “consider the human.” It reads:
Remember the human. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people. Everyone has a right to use Reddit free of harassment, bullying, and threats of violence. Communities and people that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.
That formed the basis of a policy framework that bans hate speech.

“Reddit’s mission is to bring community and belonging to everybody in the world, and there is speech in the world and on Reddit that prevents other people from doing so,” Huffman told reporters. “Harassing speech or hateful speech prevents people from coming to Reddit and feeling safe and sharing their vulnerabilities ... So if we have speech on Reddit that’s preventing people from using Reddit the way that we intend it to be used, or that prevents us from achieving our mission, then it’s actually a very easy decision.”

The introduction of the new policies has resulted in the removal of about 2,000 subreddits so far, and the company says “the vast majority” were inactive. Only about 200 of them had more than 10 daily users, the company said. They include:
  • r/DarkHumorAndMemes
  • r/ConsumeProduct
  • r/DarkJokeCentral
  • r/GenderCritical
  • r/Cumtown
  • r/imgoingtohellforthis2
  • r/Wojak
  • r/soyboys
Last year, Reddit “quarantined” r/The_Donald, placing it behind a warning screen after it was found to host content that incited violence. The company had previously prevented posts on the forum from reaching Reddit’s front page. Former users of the forum began moving to a new site off Reddit last year.

While Monday’s removals hit some high-profile political communities, Huffman said the company would continue to support a broad range of political speech.

“Political speech continues to be safe,” Huffman said. “But all communities, including our political communities, have to abide by our policies. And while we will do everything we can to help bring them in line, if they fail in doing so they are not allowed on Reddit.”

While r/The_Donald has no official connection to Trump, Reddit’s move could draw the ire of the president. Trump’s campaign complained after Snap removed him from promotion in Snapchat’s Discover tab earlier this month, and after Twitter began placing warnings on some of the president’s tweets.

At the same time, the company has been under more pressure to remove hate speech. Among the critics has been former Reddit CEO Ellen Pao, who earlier this month said r/The_Donald should have been removed long ago. “You should have shut down the_donald instead of amplifying it and its hate, racism, and violence,” she said in a tweet directed at Huffman. “So much of what is happening now lies at your feet. You don’t get to say BLM when Reddit nurtures and monetizes white supremacy and hate all day long.”
 
Why the fuck couldn't the admins of r/thedonald see the writing on the wall? It's been in that weird restricted mode for months. If they had tried to migrate to another site while the subreddit was still up, it would have been a lot easier than trying to do it now.
They created an off-site and moved there months ago.
 
I wonder what’s next to be banned because they are not stopping. I think the circlejerk threads will be next after everything else that doesn’t meet standards are banned.
 
(I originally posted this somewhere else but it's far more relevant for here)

I'm hit with a sense of disappointment, more than anything.
We all know having a conversation on reddit is usually pointless, since your worth as a user and the comments you make are valued on whether the mods condone it and if fellow users agree with it. It attracts only the most shallow, dopamine-inducing platitudes to get seen, so even if you want to contribute you find yourself intentionally holding off on your real views, as the hive doesn't reward nuance or deviation.

Having said that, I'll miss quite a few meme subs, who provided good humour. I'll also deeply miss a lot of the political subs, not because I agreed with what was said, but because on the mid-sized subreddits you could get distilled case studies in what the composite opinion of a specific ideology was on any given subject. The larger subs you could generally forget about, but the likes of /r/GenderCritical was thunk-provoking most days, and the fact they've pillaged the Dirtbag Left as well is really damning (Red Scare ladies being the lone holdout). This is just the first wave though and I fully expect the lifeboat subs will be purged as well in due time.

What makes me truly MOTI though is how thousands of unique subs are gone forever, yet the entire SRS franchise goes unmolested. Here are a network of subreddits on this site, which has spent years making fun of people and brigading other subs for Wrongthink (read; opinions which are completely normal in the real world). Seriously! I invite everybody to go to /r/ShitRedditSays right now and read the headlines. Spot a lie out of any of the comments they're 'wow just wow'ing over.
Their whole shtick is to cherrypick people Mad On The Internet and find ways to demean and pathologise those views. Nothing productive comes from it except a self-referential circle-jerk of their own superiority, which is totally unearned. Why is nobody else on the Internet allowed an opinion except for them?
I would love to go use another platform instead of reddit, but they hold an effective monopoly over content aggregation, and even if I just wanted to see interesting Right wing LGBT views now, or TERF anecdotes, or just some memes making fun of obtuse consumerism, I don't know where to do that because reddit just cast hundreds of thousands of people to the wind with no way to see where they'll all go. They've all been made to fuck off, but they've done as much in a million different directions. Will they coalesce again? Hard to say, but I figure the majority will now keep their views to themselves because they've no viable off-site alternative.

Trump better do more than just 'monitor the situation' or 'consider' action here. He needs to clamp the fuck down because what reddit have just done is firmly assert itself as a political corporate entity, and a content publisher instead of just a platform. Nail them to the wall for every failure in this role until it fully embraces the spirit of the 1st Amendment in its company policy.
If he doesn't he loses this election, not because his opposition had better arguments, but because they denied his supporters any viable means to express their support.

This won't bite reddit in the ass. Nope, not at all....
This is unironically reminiscent of the start of the Confederacy.
Lincoln got elected, and rather than wait for him to abolish slavery they pre-empt this by going on the offensive first.
Likewise, reddit et al found it very unsettling their circle-jerk apparatus was used against them, and rather than wait for Trump to declare large social media platforms 21st century public squares and therefore open to all Americans for (almost) everything, they're going balls-deep in making it a propaganda arm for anti-Trump... because they know Biden will just facilitate such activity even if they censor further.
This is all DESPITE THE FACT that Trump has been President for 3 and a half years, and has done NOTHING to safeguard free speech on the internet, or push back on the current lunacy.

Reddit is one of the biggest content aggregators on the internet, and they have:
>loudly and proudly told ring wing LGBT people to fuck off (during pride month)
>Banned a fan forum for the president of the United States for having opinions beyond the pale
>Banned forums and any individual who will state the unambiguous fact that Women do not have penises.
 
They literally did migrate to another site 3 months ago dude, its called thedonald.win. There subreddit has been a ghost town for months all of this has been posted earlier in the thread man come on.

It's a fair point, but let's say I'm a boomer and I've typed various combinations of 'the donald' into google and can't find anything approximating that subreddit. As in something that looks exactly like the site I was previously very comfortable getting my information from.

If you type "the donald" into google you used to get the subreddit, now all you get is stories about why it's such great news it was banned.
 
You hid the best part.

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I think at this point, Null is probably gonna nuke the site once he's back from his vacation. The refugees from other sites will be too much and he was already on the mind set that the site was a lost cause.

They banned his twitch and his fanmade subreddit. How long until Trump gets banned from Twitter and creates an account here?
Trump isn't getting banned off Twitter. That would be suicide at this point. The courts have already ruled that Trump's (or any public government official's) twitter account are public space, the public must have unabated access to it, and banning his or any government official's account would constitute a 1A violation. They're already skirting real close to the line by putting those warnings before some of his posts. If they seriously ban his account, not just take it down for a few hours or whatever, Twitter will be opened up to a host of lawsuits.

That's not even mentioning what will happen when Trump sets up shop at a new site. Most of the traffic will be diverted to whatever platform Trump is on and this would be the beginning of the end for Twitter. Trump is a major draw to the site.
 
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I think at this point, Null is probably gonna nuke the site once he's back from his vacation. The refugees from other sites will be too much and he was already on the mind set that the site was a lost cause.

Trump isn't getting banned off Twitter. That would be suicide at this point. The courts have already ruled that Trump's twitter account is a public space, the public must have unabaited access to it, and banning it would consitute a 1A violation. They're already skirtting real close to the line by putting those warnings before some of his posts. If they seriously ban his account, not just take it down for a few hours or whatever, Twitter will be opened up to a host of lawsuits.
Where do we all go next if this site is nuked.
 
Here's a list of banned subs as made by Reddit:


They censored everything past the top 10 because they are lunatics.

Code:
Banned subreddits with > 10 daily users. Subreddits after the top 10 are
blurred.

Subreddit        7-Day-Avg-DAU
------------------------------
darkhumorandmemes        49893
chapotraphouse           42949
consumeproduct           30349
darkjokecentral          27356
gendercritical           27333
cumtown                   8091
wojak                     7813
the_donald                7780
imgoingtohellforthis2     7073
thenewright               6844
so*****                   6081
da******                  5423
ri***********             5295
sm******                  5149
cl**********              3696
ha*************           3182
wh****************        3136
sh************            2853
oa*****************       2699
al**************          2312
br*******                 2081
cc**                      2080
th*******                 2078
de************            2027
ir***********             1794
ze********                1403
yo*******************     1375
th************            1342
bi********                1296
gr**************          1292
mi**************          1079
ba******************      1068
to*****************       1039
pr****************         929
mu***********              817
ag*****************        760
as***********              753
ch*************            746
th*********                740
li*****                    673
en****************         587
fr*****************        562
ch*****************        492
po******************       474
na*********                439
fr*************            416
al*************            404
ba*********                371
et******************       359
ra**                       324
wh************             310
hb*                        301
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me***************          283
et***                      240
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ca****************         208
ok***************          206
no***                      202
is**********               192
ev************             185
wh***********              178
cl*************            175
ne*********                165
fa**************           165
al***************          162
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ma********                  81
an*****************         81
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th**********                75
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ca**********                63
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bl****************          62
pr*****************         62
li***************           61
wh********                  60
ga***********               58
eb******                    57
20******                    55
st*****************         53
om******                    53
th**********                52
ph*******************       51
ni**                        50
go******                    50
re**************            48
as**********                47
ba*************             46
an******                    46
ex****************          45
na***                       43
ko***                       43
re************              42
me*******                   42
an************              41
fr*******************       40
he*********                 39
wh************              38
bl***************           38
va************              37
si**************            36
an******                    36
fa*********                 36
to***********               35
wu*********                 34
pr**************            34
fu******************        34
tr********                  33
sh********                  33
ic**********                33
ag*******************       33
bl**********                32
ee********                  32
fe*****                     30
ci***********               28
in*********                 28
ch******************        26
po*****                     25
wo**********                24
sh*********                 24
bi*******                   23
sh**********                22
wh**********                22
ra***********               22
ch*************             21
so******                    21
be***********               21
co*********                 21
me********                  21
pi*******                   20
no*************             20
n_***                       18
wh**************            18
ch*************             18
th**********                18
me***********               18
mo***********               17
br**************            17
ok******************        17
da**********                17
an*************             16
fo************              16
co**********                16
ra****************          15
st*************             15
gc***********               15
st****************          15
st*******************       15
ni*****                     14
ld*******                   14
an*******                   14
ja*************             14
pe*************             14
ug***********               13
sa**********                13
le*******                   13
ma***********               13
ni***                       13
we************              13
my****************          13
th***************           12
th***************           12
tr********                  12
co******                    12
ih*******                   12
ra********                  12
fu*************             12
re******                    11
ge******************        11
be************              10
li***********               10
ch***************           10
im*****************         10
so******                    10
sr******************        10
ni*******************       10
lo******                    10
pl*****                     10
ha*****                     10
 
I am surprised they haven't banned r/Eyeblech. A counter sub to r/Eyebleach, made to trick people into thinking they were going to see cute animal pictures etc, but instead it is full of uncensored gore and various other things.
 
Here's a list of banned subs as made by Reddit:


They censored everything past the top 10 because they are lunatics.

Code:
Banned subreddits with > 10 daily users. Subreddits after the top 10 are
blurred.

Subreddit        7-Day-Avg-DAU
------------------------------
darkhumorandmemes        49893
chapotraphouse           42949
consumeproduct           30349
darkjokecentral          27356
gendercritical           27333
cumtown                   8091
wojak                     7813
the_donald                7780
imgoingtohellforthis2     7073
thenewright               6844
so*****                   6081
da******                  5423
ri***********             5295
sm******                  5149
cl**********              3696
ha*************           3182
wh****************        3136
sh************            2853
oa*****************       2699
al**************          2312
br*******                 2081
cc**                      2080
th*******                 2078
de************            2027
ir***********             1794
ze********                1403
yo*******************     1375
th************            1342
bi********                1296
gr**************          1292
mi**************          1079
ba******************      1068
to*****************       1039
pr****************         929
mu***********              817
ag*****************        760
as***********              753
ch*************            746
th*********                740
li*****                    673
en****************         587
fr*****************        562
ch*****************        492
po******************       474
na*********                439
fr*************            416
al*************            404
ba*********                371
et******************       359
ra**                       324
wh************             310
hb*                        301
ex*****                    294
me***************          283
et***                      240
te*******************      226
ca****************         208
ok***************          206
no***                      202
is**********               192
ev************             185
wh***********              178
cl*************            175
ne*********                165
fa**************           165
al***************          162
fr*******                  162
sh************             143
id***********              143
mi******************       134
wo*******************      131
fi*******************      129
wh*********                123
fa*************            119
ba**************           117
ch*************            116
fe*******                  113
ob***************          111
da********                 110
vo****                     107
ha********                 104
of***************          100
ch*********                 97
in**********                96
ha********                  95
fa*                         88
cl*************             85
ma********                  81
an*****************         81
me*********                 78
ne********                  76
th**********                75
ba****************          75
ex*******************       71
ca**********                63
wh******************        62
bl****************          62
pr*****************         62
li***************           61
wh********                  60
ga***********               58
eb******                    57
20******                    55
st*****************         53
om******                    53
th**********                52
ph*******************       51
ni**                        50
go******                    50
re**************            48
as**********                47
ba*************             46
an******                    46
ex****************          45
na***                       43
ko***                       43
re************              42
me*******                   42
an************              41
fr*******************       40
he*********                 39
wh************              38
bl***************           38
va************              37
si**************            36
an******                    36
fa*********                 36
to***********               35
wu*********                 34
pr**************            34
fu******************        34
tr********                  33
sh********                  33
ic**********                33
ag*******************       33
bl**********                32
ee********                  32
fe*****                     30
ci***********               28
in*********                 28
ch******************        26
po*****                     25
wo**********                24
sh*********                 24
bi*******                   23
sh**********                22
wh**********                22
ra***********               22
ch*************             21
so******                    21
be***********               21
co*********                 21
me********                  21
pi*******                   20
no*************             20
n_***                       18
wh**************            18
ch*************             18
th**********                18
me***********               18
mo***********               17
br**************            17
ok******************        17
da**********                17
an*************             16
fo************              16
co**********                16
ra****************          15
st*************             15
gc***********               15
st****************          15
st*******************       15
ni*****                     14
ld*******                   14
an*******                   14
ja*************             14
pe*************             14
ug***********               13
sa**********                13
le*******                   13
ma***********               13
ni***                       13
we************              13
my****************          13
th***************           12
th***************           12
tr********                  12
co******                    12
ih*******                   12
ra********                  12
fu*************             12
re******                    11
ge******************        11
be************              10
li***********               10
ch***************           10
im*****************         10
so******                    10
sr******************        10
ni*******************       10
lo******                    10
pl*****                     10
ha*****                     10

WTF is up with that list? I can't find a full list. Is it too cover up all the CP supposedly floating around?
 
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