Regarding the apparent and imminent repeal of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act and the future of this website.

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If they repeal 230 kiss your first amendment rights goodbye. We would now live in some ofcom style hell where you can only post if it's the "right" thing. But what is right yknow? Who is judge of it? The internet was meant to be a free space of free flowing of ideas and talents across nations races ethnicities continents and oceans. When you try and "tame the west" this time you'll be killing everything authentic creative and cool about it leaving only a corporate controlled husk behind. I do believe at that point I'll shed a tear not for the internet but for us and what we have done to ourselves and what we have lost in pursuit of all that we were hoping to gain by doing this.
 
Lets be very clear, what the conservatives want is to not get censored on social media by twitter/facebook

What the democrats want is inscrutable, buy probably violating the 1st amendment.
Don’t kid yourself, Republicans only use “free speech” as an excuse to force their religous morality on the internet. They’d be perfectly fine with censoring anybody that talks shit about their precious Israel. Democrats only want section 230 gone to stick it to the racists and take down anything that’s deemed offensive. If those offended or religious types ever had control over the internet, then it would pretty much be fucked.
 
Don’t kid yourself, Republicans only use “free speech” as an excuse to force their religous morality on the internet. They’d be perfectly fine with censoring anybody that talks shit about their precious Israel. Democrats only want section 230 gone to stick it to the racists and take down anything that’s deemed offensive. If those offended or religious types ever had control over the internet, then it would pretty much be fucked.
So basically a lose-lose situation regardless.

It's only a matter of time before we know what will happen, I guess.
 
They have been doing that with 230 for the past 10 years. 230 as far as I'm concerned exists only on paper.
If they repeal 230 kiss your first amendment rights goodbye. We would now live in some ofcom style hell where you can only post if it's the "right" thing. But what is right yknow? Who is judge of it? The internet was meant to be a free space of free flowing of ideas and talents across nations races ethnicities continents and oceans. When you try and "tame the west" this time you'll be killing everything authentic creative and cool about it leaving only a corporate controlled husk behind. I do believe at that point I'll shed a tear not for the internet but for us and what we have done to ourselves and what we have lost in pursuit of all that we were hoping to gain by doing this.
 
Even if Section 230 does get repealed, it won't necessarily mean the end of the internet. Decentralized peer-to-peer platforms, using technologies like blockchain, where there is no central server or administration would gain a surge in popularity. Look at LBRY, and Odysee among others. No one centrally controls these platforms, so there's no one but the users who can be held liable. Of course, there could be other solutions, but the key here is decentralization.

If anything, repealing Section 230 would create two divergent internets - a centralized AI-moderated televisionesque exclusive club controlled by Big Tech (thanks DARPA), and peer-to-peer platforms where every user is a node that makes up a piece of them, where you can post and express anything you want, but no one has to see it (or have it show up in their personalized feed). It'll be as though there's a digital Berlin wall between internet users. Perhaps, for Kiwifarms to survive, it'll have to go peer-to-peer, or adopt other technologies to shield it from legal liability.

I'd like to get @Null's take on this.
 
BASED reasons why Section 230 should be repealed
1. God Emperor Trump said so, so it has to be true!
2. (Insert irrelevant 1984 quote here, who cares, it fits your agenda! 1984 goes with anything! Totally not overabused!)
3. SJWs and libs hate the repeal, they're soyboy cucks! (Insert soyjak pic here)
4. Owning the Big Brother censorship for Twitter, Facebook and Reddit as I got banned for spamming the word "nigger" :(
5. Some irrelevant unreliable obscure opinionated blogpost that explained why is it a good thing

I don't know, I think it's BASED to repeal Section 230, amirite fellow Kiwi users?
 
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I'll hold out hope. I don't think big daddy Donald will be able to push this one through before he has to leave the office to make room for the child-sniffer in chief.

But, I suppose on the off chance it does go through, it's been an honor to shitpost with you guys, godspeed you glorious faggots.

 
It's hard to grapple that the site that I've (vaguely) regularly checked for the past 5 years might finally shit the bed permanently. Whatever Null and the jannies decide to do after, I wish you all success and enjoyment away from this hellsite. Thanks for the years of endless entertainment
 
I've only had this account for 2 months, but honestly its been fun. You guys have been a nice bunch, and it'll be sad if it ends
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Doomfagging aside, whether it's in the next couple weeks, months, or years there's an inevitable end and I'm curious about the archive torrent.

Is there a ballpark figure floating around for how big the farms actually is so the data hoarders know how much real estate to set aside for shit hitting the fan?
 
I literally joined the KiwiFarms 1 week to comment in a thread ago and now is getting shut down?

Most websites are going to be fucking Dogshit if 230 gets repealed though, you think Social media censorship sucks? Just wait until l Mark Suckerberg and that Cuck from Twitter realize that they are potentially losing millions of dollars, they will ban every fucker that may seem like risk, Good luck running any website, eventually some retard is going to post something lawsuit worthy, hell they don't even need a valid reason, just go for a lawsuit if you have more money than your opponent you have the upper hand already, just wait until they run out of money and they have to close down their shitty forum.

I swear the internet just keeps getting shittier everyday.
 

Some people feel repealing 230 will backlash. Kind of hard for me to understand myself. Is section 230 is gone websites can no longer claim they cannot be sued if a user posts something hateful.

But from now on websites can just claim they did not see the post then censored it as soon as possible. Facebook does this all the time. Sure people post messed up racist crap. Then like a year later all of it gets deleted and the user gets blocked. Its not like Facebook itself did not care to not censor the user. They simply have over a billion or so members and some stuff can just not be notified of fast enough and still they have to deal with every other user.

Now the truth they have to investigate what they are censoring before they censor it. Some things are blatantly hateful. Others are borderline hateful. Others are opinionated like "this black person pisses me off they raped 4 people and got away with it. Just like a black person would."

Anyone who investigates this claim can see its blatantly racist and hateful. The part at the end where they say "just like a black person would" gives it all away. But if people are just browsing key words and phrases trying to police 2 billion social media users then the first statement does not necessarily set off a red flag. The person pisses off the community they raped people and got away with it. At first glance it looks like a piece of opinion stated entirely openly. The account would have to be investigated to truly see a long history of racial discrimination. Hard to do with protection acts.

I was watching a show the other day about the history of MASH. You know the 70s Vietnam sitcom about doctors during the Vietnam war? Many people tried to remove the show saying it was too graphic for family tv and glorified people being hurt in war. It was ruled out in court nothing about the show discriminated against one race being more important in a war when surgery was done for a patient it did not discriminate against white or Vietnamese people although really you never did see a Vietkong being saved in the medical tent. Regardless the courts ruled the show could not be taken down as it was protected under the 1st amendment rights.

So what does this have to do with section 230? Well with section 230 around if someone is saying bad things about races or aspergers calling them spergs well lol the website just says "we will remove that user."

The problem is some sites are set up to let people say that stuff all day. Sites like....

.... Well like this one. 😆 LOL

But still removing section 230 just means now you can sue a site directly for things a person is putting on the site. But still the site can just say "we got to the comment on time and edited out when we saw it. The site gets a million comments a day its hard to keep up with all of them." So back to square one. Will all the lawsuits stick? No only a rare few will stick.

In a way it kind of doesn't change things. Even with section 230 you can still sue a site if comments exist that are not removed even if the site owners say they are not responsible for a user its still possible to prove they invoked the user rights to create the hate speech therefore they are responsible. But with section 230 its a lot harder.

I am sure if 230 is removed something else will be written in its place. Some guideline on pursuing legal action against a site for the content users create.

Its not like hate speech is legal or has been. Its just hard to filter out what is and isn't hate speech because under Amendments that protect freedom of speech a person can state their opinion that "I think black people rob the most out of any race." Some interpret that as hate speech. Others interpret it as 1st amendment protected expression of opinion.

Removing section 230 means you can directly after the site a lot quicker then you could by trying to first get the site to help you pursue and censor a hateful user.

😆 in a way only sites that really promote hate speech will be in trouble. Ummm.... Those sites. Ummm... You know the ones. We have ummmm...... Heard of them.

But guidelines will still be set on how to pursue sites for promoting hate speech even without section 230 it will be a process. Likely a new section will be written in. What it will be we have yet to know.
 
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