Rep. Stephen Lynch Tests Positive for COVID-19 After Receiving Two Doses of Vaccine - Maybe he needed three

Lynch's office says that he did continue to follow COVID-19 safety protocols, such as social distancing and wearing a mask, even after receiving the vaccine.

A statement from Pfizer said that it can take seven days for protection from the second dose to kick in. However, the statement from Lynch's office said the congressman received the second dose vaccine before attending President Joe Biden's inauguration on Jan. 20, nine days before his positive test.

Lynch, who represents the state's 8th Congressional District, also tested negative for COVID-19 prior to the inauguration.

Congressman Stephen Lynch of Massachusetts tested positive for coronavirus after receiving his second vaccine dose.

"While Mr. Lynch remains asymptomatic and feels fine, he will self-quarantine and will vote by proxy in Congress during the coming week," Molly Rose Tarpey, Lynch's communications director, said in a statement.

Lynch is the second congressional member from Massachusetts to test positive for COVID-19 in two days; Rep. Lori Trahan, a fellow Democrat, announced her test result Thursday.

Rep. Stephen Lynch Tests Positive for COVID-19

U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch, D-Mass., has tested positive for COVID-19, his office announced Friday. Lynch, who had already received both doses of Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine, was tested for the virus after a staff member in his Boston office tested positive earlier in the week. The congressman...

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[Ruin]

Anyone who gets the jab is a fucking idiot. It's obvious they slapped this thing together in a month for political reasons and have absolutely no idea what it does or if it works.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Anyone who gets the jab is a fucking idiot. It's obvious they slapped this thing together in a month for political reasons and have absolutely no idea what it does or if it works.

From what I heard, it doesn't do shit. You can get as many injections as you want, but if the infected cells that are now dead are still deep within your nose, you will be testing positive till the end of time. That's right... DEAD cells in your nose... cells that aren't doing shit anymore... will fuck you over every time.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Oh, it's the Pfizer one. I thought it was already established that one is garbage. Somebody tag me when it's the Moderna one that doesn't work.

I'm pretty sure Pfizer even said that while it may not block transmission it should block symptoms. Literally "feature not a bug" tier. Don't know why this is news.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

Given the incompleteness of their vaccines re: effects, did Pfizer and Moderna consider combining their vaccines?

 

[soy_king]

It is a sad, sad statement when "corrupt but seems to give a damn" is the best we can hope for in politicians.

It's the way Congress has traditionally worked and was envisioned to work. The local representatives are ultimately liable to both their constituents and their local party machine, and as a result are generally popular only if they deliver something to their constituents. The Senate's a bit different, but ultimately functions like that on a larger scale.

Congressmen like AOC, who are nationally prominent with little to no support within their district, are not the norm, and usually are incredibly vulnerable to getting primaried. Congress as a collective is required to give a damn about the country, but each member should place the interests of their constituents as a priority and work to compromise with other members to secure rational compromises.

 

[BobbyBriggs69420]

" Mr. Lynch remains asymptomatic and feels fine"

I don't always feel fine and asymptomatic, but when I do, I go get a swab shoved up my nose to tell me if I might really actually be sick and not know it.

 

[Snekposter]

It's the way Congress has traditionally worked and was envisioned to work. The local representatives are ultimately liable to both their constituents and their local party machine, and as a result are generally popular only if they deliver something to their constituents. The Senate's a bit different, but ultimately functions like that on a larger scale.

Congressmen like AOC, who are nationally prominent with little to no support within their district, are not the norm, and usually are incredibly vulnerable to getting primaried. Congress as a collective is required to give a damn about the country, but each member should place the interests of their constituents as a priority and work to compromise with other members to secure rational compromises.

Oh, I'm well aware of that. But I just hate that the corruption is mandatory as opposed to being undesirable on the national level.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Probably just need more doses better order another 300 million.

 

[soy_king]

Oh, I'm well aware of that. But I just hate that the corruption is mandatory as opposed to being undesirable on the national level.

I'd be okay with at least some of the corruption if it wasn't so blatant, prevalent, hypocritical, and totalitarian.

 

[Tovarisz]

Don't worry, it's probably just a different strain of Covid, just get vaccinated for the current strain to be safe and then get hyped for the next vaccine.

 

[pwnest injun]

COVID-19 is a disorder, like AIDS. It's caused by a virus, but diagnosed by its symptoms. So, you can have SARS-CoV-2 and not have COVID-19 just like you can have HIV and not have AIDS.

In this case, the Rep does not have COVID-19, he has AIDS just tested positive for the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in an unspecified test.
Its propaganda for "the new normal" where you still have to stay in your pod no matter what.

 

[Carcinogenesis]

This is how I understand the process, is this right?

Normal infection timeline: virus gets inside a cell and turns it into a virus factory, spreads fabricants -> exponentially increasing virus level, begin shedding virus to others; immune system starts trying "keys" to "lock" the harmful virus protein -> symptoms begin -> immune system wins, or covid does

Vaccine timeline: receive vaccine, which stimulates immune system to start making correct "key" for covid "locks" -> personal immune system dictates how quickly the new information is disseminated -> recieve booster vaccine shot (2nd dose) which does more of the same -> [hypothetically] contract sars-cov-2, virus gets into a cell and turns it into a virus factory, spreads fabricants -> immune system is ready and shuts it down quickly (depending on personal immune system), but Covid (the DISEASE caused by the novel coronavirus) fails to develop.

Seems to me that in the vaccine timeline, nothing procludes a positive 'covid' test.

When you get a new infection, the pathogen can start replicating without too much attention from the immune system. We still have systems in place to deal with pathogens without needing to develop "locks and keys" but these systems are more for general use and can be avoided. When viral load is high enough, the immune systems begins ramping up defenses as too many cells are getting killed., causing symptoms The immune system takes a sample of the pathogen, called an antigen, which is taken to lymph nodes where B cells are activated to produce antibodies that target the specific antigen. If the infection is cleared, the body kills off most of those activated B cells except for a few. The ones kept are called memory B cells. Of course, getting immunized "the natural way" can either kill or weaken you. This is especially an issue with the measles virus which is well known for causing immune amnesia by killing memory cells.

When you get a vaccine, weakened or dead viruses act as target practice for the immune system. The immune system can produce memory cells without much risk. Activating B cells and designing antibodies takes time, but memory cells activate much quicker. It's why you won't get infected again assuming the vaccine works and that you have a working immune system. This is a very simplified explanation as I only focused on B cells, which produce antibodies. The immune system is a vast network of many different types of cells with different functions. If the vaccine works, you shouldn't have any viral RNA in your body. Either the vaccine didn't work or the test gave a false positive.

COVID-19 is a disorder, like AIDS. It's caused by a virus, but diagnosed by its symptoms. So, you can have SARS-CoV-2 and not have COVID-19 just like you can have HIV and not have AIDS.

In this case, the Rep does not have COVID-19, he has AIDS just tested positive for the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in an unspecified test.
Its propaganda for "the new normal" where you still have to stay in your pod no matter what.

You wouldn't have sex with a person who is HIV-positive even if they don't AIDS. The concern is that people can become carriers for SARS-CoV 2 and spread it without knowing. It can still potentially kill people with underlying conditions, doesn't help that many people can be at risk. Either the test is flawed, or the vaccine isn't working. I don't see it as propaganda, just gross incompetence.

 

[Getwhatyou]

The vaccine doesn't stop transmission it limits the damage it does if you get it.

 

[pwnest injun]

You wouldn't have sex with a person who is HIV-positive even if they don't AIDS. The concern is that people can become carriers for SARS-CoV 2 and spread it without knowing. It can still potentially kill people with underlying conditions, doesn't help that many people can be at risk. Either the test is flawed, or the vaccine isn't working. I don't see it as propaganda, just gross incompetence.

I would if they were undetectable thanks to anti-retrovirals, but to your point, it's sensationalized, incomplete information. The reason you release bad info is because it suits your purposes.

 

[Shield Breaker]

It doesn't stop you from getting it, it stops the symptoms.

 

[Baroque]

Quoted Text

Thanks for this, really fascinating subject and your response was informative. Its clear that this topic is NOT the neophyte's playground. I hope someone knows what they're doing.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

COVID-19 is a disorder, like AIDS. It's caused by a virus, but diagnosed by its symptoms. So, you can have SARS-CoV-2 and not have COVID-19 just like you can have HIV and not have AIDS.

In this case, the Rep does not have COVID-19, he has AIDS just tested positive for the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in an unspecified test.
Its propaganda for "the new normal" where you still have to stay in your pod no matter what.

The fucking "new normal" can go to hell, I hope Lynch will use more vitamin D and zinc or even HCQ.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

This is how I understand the process, is this right?

Normal infection timeline: virus gets inside a cell and turns it into a virus factory, spreads fabricants -> exponentially increasing virus level, begin shedding virus to others; immune system starts trying "keys" to "lock" the harmful virus protein -> symptoms begin -> immune system wins, or covid does

Vaccine timeline: receive vaccine, which stimulates immune system to start making correct "key" for covid "locks" -> personal immune system dictates how quickly the new information is disseminated -> recieve booster vaccine shot (2nd dose) which does more of the same -> [hypothetically] contract sars-cov-2, virus gets into a cell and turns it into a virus factory, spreads fabricants -> immune system is ready and shuts it down quickly (depending on personal immune system), but Covid (the DISEASE caused by the novel coronavirus) fails to develop.

Seems to me that in the vaccine timeline, nothing procludes a positive 'covid' test.

The underlined portion depends on what type of virus it is. DNA viruses (herpes) and Retroviruses (HIV/lentiviruses) basically permanently hijack the cell and use it to slowly produce replicants, usually while the cell continues on its businesses as normal.
Simple RNA viruses (influenza, rhinoviruses, coronaviruses) hijack the cell, quickly create replicants then the replicants burst from the cell at once and go on the hunt for new cells to infect.
Think of DNA & Retroviruses as the GeneStealer Cult from WH40K, quietly producing alien babies while going about their daily lives as normal; and simple RNA viruses as the Xenomorphs from Alien, but instead of one chest buster you're dealing with anywhere from 10-100 new little aliens bursting from the cell.

This is where killer T-cells come in: they basically kill off the cells that have been infected before the viral replicants can be produced; and of course memory T-cells to store the information of what a cell infected by that type of virus looks like.

Most vaccines use some form of viral particle, be it a live closely related species (think Smallpox vaccine), the protein spike of the real thing cleaved to a virtually harmless virus (using a weak common cold to carry the identifying feature of a deadlier disease) or just a dead particle from the target disease. These new vaccines, however, use messenger RNA (mRNA) to carry the "recipe" to your B-cells to teach them to make the right antibody configuration.
The great question is whether or not these mRNA vaccines also teach your T-cells to recognize an infected cell (and of course other long-term side effects of a method of vaccine which has literally never been used before now).

The final factor is that the vaccine is claimed to only prevent symptoms of COVID (basically your immune system beating back the virus) but not actually prevent you from spreading it.
This of course, coming after all the autistic screeching and reeee'ing and chimping about how surviving a COVID infection doesn't prevent you from "catching" it again.

 

[frozenrunner]

This is not that surprising. The mRNA "vaccine" has to be kept cold or it will become totally ineffective. It wouldn't be hard to damage a batch during transportation or to leave it out too long before injection. We can assume this will happen from time to time.

 

[CatboyCumDump]

"A statement from Pfizer said that it can take seven days for protection from the second dose to kick in"...wtf. Seriously. It takes a week for a 2nd dosage to supposedly provide protection? Like...I suppose I never would expect a vaccine to make you immediately immune to a certain malady, but this just sounds like grade A malarkey. Granted that's been par for the course when it's come to the government and this virus.

On another note, all we know is that the Representative tested positive. Who knows if the test was BS. Hopefully it was, but that still doesn't make me any more enthusiastic about these "vaccines".

NO MALARKEY!!