[Resolved] Domain Registrar & Epik's Seizure

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Should we sue Epik LLC?

  • Yes, I'll chip in.

    Votes: 1,709 55.2%
  • Yes, but I'm broke.

    Votes: 1,220 39.4%
  • No.

    Votes: 79 2.6%
  • No, but I'll chip in regardless.

    Votes: 86 2.8%

  • Total voters
    3,094
Regarding concerns for fiat, I believe that you will have two options:
1. Pay by card on a website I am going to set up on a different domain.
2. Mail a check to my escrow attorney.

The money will be held by an escrow attorney for the purpose of litigation relating to the Kiwi Farms and myself as a person.

I am very serious about this. What is happening is a sort of avalanche effect. Relatively important companies and people are just flat out lying about us in the worst way, and these baseless and dangerous false statements are adding up in a way that permits Liz Fong-Jones and the people he pays to continue to deplatform us. There's no way around it at this point. We either have to fight these claims and legally demand our existence, or we will won't be permitted anything.
Again, you may wish to go after a company that exists at the time of filing, has known owners, and more in assets than liabilities (not broke as fuck). Cloudflare, $28 billion marketcap, said Kiwifarms was responsible for "imminent threats to human life" and their termination of the service had your business to go offline. Epik has dwindling money, probably millions owed, and no known owners.
 
In the event of an award which exceeds costs and fees, can we expect reimbursement and if not what do you plan to do with the money? I'm willing to give money with no expectation of getting it back but I would prefer that clarified in advance.
Since you use the site, you're openly being accused of associating with child predators. A win would mean your name is cleared. I think that's a good prize.
 
I think the answer depends entirely on the lawyer you're able to find. It needs to be someone who has a favorable view of the site or at least has other principles that align with the site being able to stay up regardless of personal taste. If a lawsuit is brought, Epik will likely fill their filings with every single accusation ever made against the site. You need someone who is willing to push back on those accusations and I'm not sure that some random lawyer-for-hire will be motivated enough to do it properly.

The other major concern is that the lawsuit could get fucky. If the jury/judge find their claims to be true for some retarded reason than it would effectively legitimize every adverse action ever taken by a host/registrar/etc against the site.
 
I'm not, there is a pretty big precident of legal proceedings fucking over "deplorables" like say Alex Jones there is really no reason not to think they wouldn't do the same to Josh.
Epik is also pretty much consigned to the "deplorables" realm by the powers that be too:

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Fucking guy's legal name is "Robert W. Monster"
 
you get a forum that stays up. if that's not enough, consider investing in doge.

You know, it might be better to say something like "that's a hypothetical scenario that's so far from being realized that I can't possibly answer it at this time" than being smarmy to the people you're asking to fund lawsuits for you lmao
 
Taking a case to trial is at least $75,000.
I believe these resources should be saved for litigations against a certain wealthy individual who was the original goal.
There definitely won't be any damages you could prove for these statements alone, and they may be able to burn far more money than any pro se litigant ever could.
Then again in the interest of total war perhaps any avenue should be exploited, all foes demonstrated against.

If you start this battle you better be sure of no less than absolute victory.
 
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You know, it might be better to say something like "that's a hypothetical scenario that's so far from being realized that I can't possibly answer it at this time" than being smarmy to the people you're asking to fund lawsuits for you lmao
I mean he's asking ROI on funding a defamation lawsuit. My brain isn't really designed to handle that.
 
Vitos problem is being a pedo shielding faggot
No, Vito's problem is HE IS A FUCKING PEDO.

I could probably count the number of cows on this site I'd like to see dead on one hand. He's one of them. I am not a vicious person, but I will unironically celebrate Vito's death if were to happen. This should not be taken as any desire to actively bring said death about.

Anyways, I've been giving money to buy people T&H on a fairly regular basis. I'll just keep doing that, and Null could use/divert it as he seems necessary.
 
You know, it might be better to say something like "that's a hypothetical scenario that's so far from being realized that I can't possibly answer it at this time" than being smarmy to the people you're asking to fund lawsuits for you lmao
This is a court case, not a venture capital fund. The question is absurd.
 
I already contribute to pizza day on the Gumroad. I'm no rich man but I'll be more than happy to drop a little to support this. Seriously can't believe that the company twitter troon was insane enough to actually say something like that. Trying to be edgy perhaps? But their posts are still up so they haven't been tard-wrangled yet if that's the case. Absolute shitshow.
 
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