[Resolved] Domain Registrar & Epik's Seizure

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Should we sue Epik LLC?

  • Yes, I'll chip in.

    Votes: 1,709 55.2%
  • Yes, but I'm broke.

    Votes: 1,220 39.4%
  • No.

    Votes: 79 2.6%
  • No, but I'll chip in regardless.

    Votes: 86 2.8%

  • Total voters
    3,094
Epik LLC has made two claims on X :
1) They were forced to put a clientHold on kiwifarms.net by Law Enforcement, which we evaded by moving the domain out of the country.
2) That the Kiwi Farms "hosts child porn".

These are both false, and these are both instances of actionable per se defamation. The damage of these claims is inherent in the claim and they are already being parroted by adversaries for the purposes of trying to further erode our ability to find stability and sure footing on the Internet.

Epik is a Wyoming LLC, X is a California LLC, and Kiwi Farms is a West Virginia LLC. To pursue this, I would have to find a lawyer in one of these jurisdictions. I don't know any.

Taking a case to trial is at least $75,000. However, they would be able to pay because they are a big company, and this would be an amazing step for being able to show providers: Yes, we are legal, and yes, we are taking steps to remedy actionable defamation to the contrary.

I've put up a poll. I am already dealing with litigation and saving money for another case. Would the community itself actually want to finance litigation?


Edit: I will find a way to get fiat working so you don't need crypto, but special crypto wallets can also be set up.
What few shekels I can throw your way are yours Deer Feeder. Rip and tear.
 
I would be very, very excited to contribute at least $1,000 and if you leave the fundraising running for a while I will likely have more over time. However I will need to pay via credit card. If you like, I can do it through your Gumroad. Just give the word and I'll do it tonight. Sue those bastards, Josh. It will send a message to every single one of those woke companies who think they are untouchable.

Reading their spergout today made me real MATI. It would be nice to act on my impotent rage in a constructive manner instead of just lifting weights until my arms fall off. Go get 'em kid!
 
One thing that Null needs to be prepared for, and should have a good discussion with potential counsel about, is the discovery process. At a bare minimum, I would expect to have to turn over a full copy of the forum data, as well as any older backup copies, as the entirety of the site's content would be potentially at issue and therefore responsive. I would also expect to have to turn over information will show all previous and existing vendors, whose entire staff and those of their clients can expect to receive some very aggressive girl talk.
 
I imagine they'd want to settle pretty quickly once lawyers got involved and looked into the details. Sounds like a social media tranny was put in charge of their account and got too big for their britches (probably because of the male genitalia contained therein).

It's an excellent chance to finally hold someone accountable. $75,000 isn't a small ask, but I think we could do it if we made a concerted effort as a community.
 
Good point.

A suggestion I can think of that don’t rely on third party services:

Temporarily limit new accounts to not be allowed to upload any attachments until a set time. (Obviously a bit of a bandaid fix, but I can’t really think of anything better. Maybe manual mod approval for every attachment for new accounts?)

There are also third party anti-CSAM tools like PhotoDNA and whatever garbage YouTube uses. I don’t know how the approval process for using these tools works but I’m not sure if it would be viable.
PhotoDNA sucks and is effectively storing thumbnails of CSAM.
 
I would like Total Retard War as much as the next red-blooded Kiwi here, but Vito is an utterly uninformed fat pedophile living in LA. He does not know that 8chan died like 8 years ago, and so Epik's recent decision to de-platform KF cannot have anything to do with the pedos spamming CP on 8chan all those years ago (back when 8chan had nowhere near as many problems staying online). A few years of legal battle and $75k+ is not going to make him change his mind, as he is too busy gooning.

I think sinking Epik would be very funny, but please consider all available options before committing! One can only commit one's total retard force once every so often!
 
I'll take a beating from my wife and donate our retirement fund. She knew what she was getting into when she married a retard.
Why haven't you gotten into option trading then? It's free money or about 10 feet of rope.

Also I'm going to send a check to support this if you go through with it. I bought one of the most cursed coins in existence and I am more than willing to give cash for a lawsuit against these people.
 
So it looks like the overwhelming response is:

Cry havoc, and unleash the retards of war...

Personally 50/50. Lolsuits usually waste money and Null better be prepared for a nasty discovery process. Will try and chip in money depending on donation method.
 
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