Retro games and emulation - Discuss retro shit in case you're stuck in the past or a hipster

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An interesting read I found today. It was originally on Exclusively Games by TheQuartering, but now another guy hosts the article.
Another possibility, and I admit I’m spitballing here, would be for the IP owners to sell the ROMs themselves. I would imagine hosting the ROMs on their site would be a trivial matter for a big tech company, and many of them already handle on-line purchases of current games, subscription services and the like, so the financial soft-infrastructure is already in place.


I’m sure many people would purchase these ROMS if they were priced appropriately, say $5 for a popular ROM, $2.99 for more obscure ones etc. The IP owners could state in their terms of service that it is up to the end user to find an emulator that will work with said ROMs, and that they accept no responsibility for this.
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But what if... what if he's playing on an actual Gamecube?
There’s an adapter that lets you connect a bunch of different Bluetooth controllers including PS4, but keep in mind that I WILL call you a gay homo if you use it for anything other than emulating SNES.
 
Why would you want to use a shitty feeling controller with extremely short battery life and the wrong button layout to play GameCube games?

I use my bluetooth adapters for GameCube primarily for Game Boy Player. You can connect a wireless SNES controller or better yet a Famicom Switch Online controller.
 
Because GameCube is retro now, does anyone have any recommendations for GameCube controllers that don't cost an arm and a leg?

I'm looking to buy four, and I'm trying to avoid spending $80 per piece.

The clone controllers from companies like Old Skool and Cirka have OK reviews but they're super cheap. I'm hesitant about how long they'll last.

Anyone have a good experience with a third party controller?
For N64, I bought the retro-bit Tribute 64. I didn't know at the time it was supposedly in moderate to high demand.

It has an issue that makes playing Turok and other c-button FPSs a pain. Holding c^ and c> causes the controller to switch input modes, so you can accidentally do that easily. The stick is a bit weird when it comes to sensitivity, but it works fine. And the d-pad is bad imo, so not good for WWF No Mercy.

But, if you want to play n64 games that are stick focused, and use the full set of c-buttons, it works great. So games like Mario 64 are good on it. Though rendered obsolete via source ports. Not worth scalper prices, but for playing n64 casually now and then, it's good enough.


I've not tried the controllers you mentioned, however, there are companies that people swear by. 8bitdo used to be one. Retro Fighters was another. They tend to do runs of retro controllers, and if you happen to grab one, they're supposedly good. They aren't so rare as to be scalped, but they used to only be available for a few months with long wait times between revisions. Source. Me trying to find a replacement Dreamcast controller years ago (while making this post, turns out they have the wireless DC controller in stock. I'd prefer wired, but considering that. Or an OG Xbox controller.)

They appear to have wireless Gamecube style controllers available atm. Not looked at reviews so you'll have to do your research. Which might be difficult because 8bitdo has a lot of shill YouTubers. How trustworthy they are, I can't say. They usually sell on Amazon.
 
I own one RetroFighters controller for N64 and would not buy another one. The button layout is just different enough to cause problems (the gap to the C buttons is different and the buttons size is wrong), the stick doesn't feel anywhere near as sensitive as a real N64 controller, and the whole unit feels cheap and creaky.

Not much a point in buying them when good condition N64 controllers from Japan are readily available and they never seem to have loose sticks like American units, largely because the system was wildly unsuccessful there and most controllers saw little use.
 
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Not much a point in buying them when good condition N64 controllers from Japan are readily available and they never seem to have loose sticks like American units, largely because the system was wildly unsuccessful there and most controllers saw little use.

Especially considering that real N64 controllers would need adapters, I just can't imagine that there's no third-party solution yet for those C-buttons as C-sticking in Zelda is really painful. I've been pretty happy with my wired 8BitDo SN30. Could use a longer cable, though.

Controllers that are sturdy enough that they don't disintegrate within six months of light use and not overpriced autist shit seem to be a narrow category.
 
Especially considering that real N64 controllers would need adapters, I just can't imagine that there's no third-party solution yet for those C-buttons as C-sticking in Zelda is really painful. I've been pretty happy with my wired 8BitDo SN30. Could use a longer cable, though.

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These are being made by 8bitdo.
 
So I got one of the 8BitDo NeoGeo pads for Christmas.

I never actually used one of the originals, I wasn't rich, nobody I knew could afford a NeoGeo, but holy crap is it nice for arcade games like fighting games and brawlers.
 
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So I got one of the 8BitDo NeoGeo pads for Christmas.

I never actually used one of the originals, I wasn't rich, nobody I knew could afford a NeoGeo, but holy crap is it nice for arcade games like fighting games and brawlers.
That's their clone of the NG CD pad?

I always heard the micro switched slide pad was great and mimicked an arcade stick. For a long time I've had this PS2 pad on my mental shopping list list:

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The 8bitdo recreation looks really nice but I've been holding out for one with Switch compatibility to play nicer with my bluetooth adapters.

Do you own any arcade sticks? They similarly are great for high action 2D games, the microswitched stick really helps. One of mine is a modded NeoGeo stick I put together a few years ago
 
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That's their clone of the NG CD pad?

I always heard the micro switched slide pad was great and mimicked an arcade stick. For a long time I've had this PS2 pad on my mental shopping list list:

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The 8bitdo recreation looks really nice but I've been holding out for one with Switch compatibility to play nicer with my bluetooth adapters.

Do you own any arcade sticks? They similarly are great for high action 2D games, the microswitched stick really helps. One of mine is a modded NeoGeo stick I put together a few years ago

That's the one, yes. The 8bitdo version puts the L1 and R1 buttons on the shoulders where they belong, though, and just doesn't bother with L2/R2. It's great for arcade games and anything up through 16 bit and most 32 bit games, but it won't be suitable for more modern games.

An arcade stick is next on my list of things to get. I've held off for a long time because I've had fantasies about building my own from scratch... I used to do woodworking, but that was when I had access to a wood shop that I no longer do. I'm looking at the 8bitdo one... Unsurprisingly, I suppose, they're really coming to dominate the 3rd party gaming controller market. Like a MadCatz that's actually good.
 
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Does anybody know of good controller adapters for PC? As in, USB adapters for original console controllers. I have NES, SNES and Genesis controllers with me, and anything that requires analog sticks (PS2, Nintendo 64, etc.) is already covered with my PS4 controller.

It appears my days playing games with the keyboard will be gone because of a nagging injury in my right elbow. Adding to that, I think I'm developing some sort of RSI in my right hand and wrist as well, since I also use this setup for work, and I'm constantly shifting my hand between the keyboard and the mouse.
 
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Does anybody know of good controller adapters for PC? As in, USB adapters for original console controllers. I have NES, SNES and Genesis controllers with me, and anything that requires analog sticks (PS2, Nintendo 64, etc.) is already covered with my PS4 controller.
Go with Mayflash MF104 for Genesis and TotalConsole PC053 for NES/SNES (despite the name it's also manufactured by Mayflash). Both are on Amazon. Mayflash adapters are chinkshit, but in my experience they work without issue. Remember to configure the controller inputs in your emulator of choice.
 
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These are being made by 8bitdo.
I preordered one of those a while back. My MiSTeR Pi is slowly becoming my emulation system of choice for N64 and older, and it supports per-controller per-console (but not per-game) mapping, so I’m hoping the C-buttons are comfortable enough to make it an all-in-one controller. Playing N64 with anything other than an N64 layout feels wrong.
 
Not much a point in buying them when good condition N64 controllers from Japan are readily available and they never seem to have loose sticks like American units, largely because the system was wildly unsuccessful there and most controllers saw little use.
I don't think so? I mentioned in another thread that retro "pickers" destroyed the Japanese retro market (at least for westerners) shortly after covid.

so is ps4 emulation allowed to talk here?
Why wouldn't it be allowed?

Though the real question is, what are you going to emulate that isn't Bloodbourne?
 
I don't think so? I mentioned in another thread that retro "pickers" destroyed the Japanese retro market (at least for westerners) shortly after covid.
Not to power level too hard but I have a lot of first hand experience with this.

It's not as good as it used to be when I was buying a lot, but even then people would talk about the glory days of buying everything for 100 yen. But it's still a massive bargain compared to what you can get in the US domestic market.

Use Buyee or Amazon Japan (ordering in batches makes the shipping very reasonable), don't use ebay.

Just as a sample here's a two-tone translucent red/white N64 controller, a desirable color:

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The cost after subtracting tax and converting to USD is $11.31. You may think the shipping is expensive but the way it works for things "shipped from amazon" is there's a base fee then it's by weight and sometimes size, which is why you're best off making a batch order of 5+ items. In this case the shipping to my house is 700yen over the base fee which is $4.44. It helps that the Yen is extremely weak right now.

Amazon is a bit more of a gamble on condition than Buyee/YAJ and items tend to cost more but the shipping is a lot faster and cheaper. I tend to find it better for common items and use Buyee only for really hard to get stuff.
 
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