Manosphere Return of Kings and Roosh V / Roosh Vorek / Daryush Valizadeh - Thread #2: Return of Douches. NPC Roosh, Hater of Human Female Buttocks & also just Human Females in General.

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My impression of Roosh has always been that he is a remarkably slavish man. I first read him when he was still a PUA. What stood out about his writings is that he didn't seem to take any joy in what he did. He seemed like a miserable, joyless man who based his whole life around having sex just because he had to, like a lifelong medical condition or something.
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I got a very similar impression from the man. No matter what he was doing, he did it because it was expected of somebody in his "position". When he was a PUA he claimed to have fucked a lot of women because that is what PUAs do.

When he became religious he incessantly talked about religion - after all, isn't that what the religious do?

Not once did I see him do anything which looked spontaneous or as if he took pleasure from it. Watching Roosh was like seeing a facade with nothing behind it.

As for his "piety", I don't know much about the Orthodox tradition, but most Christian (and Islamic, except for Salafism) denominations look on boastful expositions of one's own faith and/or humility in the manner characteristic of Roosh as gravely sinful.

Is the Orthodox Church any different in this regard?
 
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Cyberpunk Panatela said:
I got a very similar impression from the man. No matter what he was doing, he did it because it was expected of somebody in his "position". When he was a PUA he claimed to have fucked a lot of women because that is what PUAs do.

When he became religious he incessantly talked about religion - after all, isn't that what the religious do?

Not once did I see him do anything which looked spontaneous or as if he took pleasure from it. Watching Roosh was like seeing a facade with nothing behind it.

As for his "piety", I don't know much about the Orthodox tradition, but most Christian (and Islamic, except for Salafism) denominations look on boastful expositions of one's own faith and/or humility in the manner characteristic of Roosh as gravely sinful.

Is the Orthodox Church any different in this regard?
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The type of Orthodoxy he joined is more like a "based online autists cult" than normal Christianity of any type. A lot of them end up dropping out and becoming Muslim or even Asatru because they single-mindedly evaluate everything based on their weird little internet cult rubric of "basedness" and have no perspective or greater love of truth and beauty. I would be shocked if Roosh doesn't end up doing that, especially given the Anglin endorsement mentioned in the post above mine.

Roosh and people like him are spiritual troons. Always running away from themselves, chasing the dragon of "basedness" without examining what is going on in their own hearts and minds to cause the distress.
 
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Cyberpunk Panatela said:
I got a very similar impression from the man. No matter what he was doing, he did it because it was expected of somebody in his "position". When he was a PUA he claimed to have fucked a lot of women because that is what PUAs do.
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Sounds like he was (and has always been) that boy with an inferiority complex whose main motivation for doing things is that those are cool things whose coolness will finally rub on him someday, thus eventually making him become somebody worthy of admiration/a cool dude (like a boy joining karate classes in the 90s not because he genuinely enjoys karate but because it's the cool thing for cool boys to do; what he really wants is to become a cool boy). But that real validation will never come because he is always using somebody else's judgment (in this case, 'based' autists on the net). It does not trickle down to his insecure heart and thus he, like a troon, is never really satisfied and needs even more validation. Real contentment does not need continuous passive-aggressive boasts on the net.

Cyberpunk Panatela said:
When he became religious he incessantly talked about religion - after all, isn't that what the religious do?

Not once did I see him do anything which looked spontaneous or as if he took pleasure from it. Watching Roosh was like seeing a facade with nothing behind it.
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He went from 'Look at how many gorgeous Slavic chicks I am fucking! I'm a winner!' to 'Look at how many gorgeous Slavic chicks I am NOT fucking (but totally could) by using the divinely-inspired faculty of restraint! I'm a winner, eh I meant sinner!'. And all this time the real message behind it all was 'Am I finally one of the cool dudes?'
There is always a homoerotic undertone (sometimes more than an undertone, cough cough Jack Murphy) with these 'based manosphere guru' dudes. Must be the inferiority complex which is driving all of their actions and which is the building block fot a lot of homoeroticism.

Cyberpunk Panatela said:
As for his "piety", I don't know much about the Orthodox tradition, but most Christian (and Islamic, except for Salafism) denominations look on boastful expositions of one's own faith and/or humility in the manner characteristic of Roosh as gravely sinful.

Is the Orthodox Church any different in this regard?
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No it isn't. Well, I don't think so at least. I studied some Russian literature and boastful 'Rooshisms' were not seen as proper to attain holiness. A simple, rigorous and humble life of prayer and service was.

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Roosh and people like him are spiritual troons. Always running away from themselves, chasing the dragon of "basedness" without examining what is going on in their own hearts and minds to cause the distress.
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I am guessing being raised by Boomer parents and thus almost guaranteed to have little to no parental guidance in life produced a generation of npd/bpd babies who never felt loved so they need to 'up the ante' with more and more transgressive behavior, but little genuine introspection, to make up for that internal lack of love and security. My 2 cents.
 
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I used to visit there, I wasn't really into pickup(I was/am religious), but it was still a straight talking community of men looking to improve. Post Roosh's Jesus quest, most posts were passively focused on external events and tut-tuting.

I think his conversion is sincere, since he delisted all his Pickup/sexhunting books.
 
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I used to visit there, I wasn't really into pickup(I was/am religious), but it was still a straight talking community of men looking to improve. Post Roosh's Jesus quest, most posts were passively focused on external events and tut-tuting.

I think his conversion is sincere, since he delisted all his Pickup/sexhunting books.
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He did that after a few religion bloggers who were skeptical of his conversion asked him why they were still for sale on his site and yes, after Amazon and some other platforms took a closer look at them and realized they were legal minefields. Better late than never, but hardly a meaningful gauge of sincerity.
 
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Christian Roosh used to be funny because he'd basically turned from manosphere + culture wars, to the sort of fundie who thought bar codes were the sign of the beast, but now he's just pathetic.

My armchair psychoanalysis on him is that he wouldn't become a monk because he likes having his little flock on the forums, even though it keeps dwindling due to the purity spiraling (he deleted the Catholic/Protestant subforums a while ago). That plus he definitely seems like a sperg, and a lot of spergs have issues with authority because "this is just how we do things" can clash with the highly rules- and logic-driven brain of the sperg. Dude hasn't held a f/t job for longer than a month since GWB was President. But, I'm not that familiar with him, so I may well be totally wrong.
 
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Havel the Rock said:
become a monk
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Seems Roosh wants to live "no fun allowed"?

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17 Worldly Consolations That Decrease My Faith – Roosh Valizadeh said:
1. Eating tasty food past the point of satiety

2. Reaching for my smartphone to check for unimportant new messages or news

3. Prolonged staring at beautiful women

4. Seeking direct praise when sharing my opinions, stories, or ideas

5. Oversleeping, taking gratuitous naps, or using an alarm clock’s snooze function beyond what is reasonable

6. Consuming secular music or films to “unwind,” not worry about life, and forget about death

7. Taking unnecessarily long showers in hot water

8. Consuming a socially acceptable drug (e.g., caffeine, alcohol) to create a desirable mental or physical state

9. Craving nonstop laughter and fun during social conversation

10. Seeking novelty through travel

11. Gaining useless secular knowledge to feel more knowledgeable

12. Improving my physical appearance for the main purpose of looking better than other men

13. Complaining and grumbling (usually about other people)

14. Using modern medicine and supplements to alleviate the fear, anxiety, and physical pain of common illnesses

15. Turning on the air conditioning when it’s not that hot

16. Indulging in fantasies where I am a hero or saint

17. Responding with anger upon an insult or false accusation
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