Let's Sperg Revolution 60: Game of the Year Contender

Should I kill a main character?

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Cure Quanta said:
Yeah, totally. Geishabots in Republican Space Rangers would absolutely fit and they'd probably be hilarious if you played them as much. That's why I'm hoping for a reply from Smutley soon, since I can't gauge if there's any tongue-in-cheekness to be had to let these things slide. It looks like Revolution 60 is totally trying to play this straight, and it's sucking hard at it.
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While you're at it, could we have Smutley look outside and tell us what color the sky is?

Yeah, Briana Wu is actually a closet satirist. There isn't an emoticon eye rolly enough to properly icon my emotes here.
 
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Cure Quanta said:
Yeah, totally. Geishabots in Republican Space Rangers would absolutely fit and they'd probably be hilarious if you played them as much. That's why I'm hoping for a reply from Smutley soon, since I can't gauge if there's any tongue-in-cheekness to be had to let these things slide. It looks like Revolution 60 is totally trying to play this straight, and it's sucking hard at it.
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The GTA series is clever in how it riddicules various facets of culture. Everything from the names of the cars to the various ingame advertisments to what the characters say and do is making fun of SOMETHING. Thats why its useless to get angry about it. While Republican Space Rangers makes fun of the right wing, Impotent Rage makes fun of the left for instance.

Revolution 60... parodys nothing. Its all serious. The Geishabots are actually serious. Fuck the what.
 
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Woody Chan said:
I know exactly what you mean and this isn't a case of being "Ironic".

Okay. Like if GTAV had in some minigame Trevor tripping on something and going into a dream sequence where hes a Republican Space Ranger (I am a pretty right-wing guy... and honestly I love them, I get thee joke) and they are fighting - oh no - GEISHABOTS? I'd get the joke (albeit in this setup its very cheap and rockstar would probobly go for something more clever) in saying that sci-fi fembots are tacky.

But when you do it here for serious? No. Its just tacky.

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No you don't get it, the geisha bots are empowering because they aren't working to service people to but to guard things and be tuff. They show all the little fem bots out there you can do other things and fight the robot patriarchy established robot gender roles. Robot Feminism.
 
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Uzumaki said:
While you're at it, could we have Smutley look outside and tell us what color the sky is?

Yeah, Briana Wu is actually a closet satirist. There isn't an emoticon eye rolly enough to properly icon my emotes here.
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Hey, any other opinions help. It's all data colleciton, and it can only help if you see the results are backing each other up.

We know she's not clever, but it helps to look at all the nuts and bolts so we know exactly why, and even if we just get stuff confirmed that we already know, we're at least making it clear.

Besides, who knows if there's any extra smugness in there, like, "oh, hey, even the GIIIIRL robots are a cut above, that's why we're keeping them!" Gotta look at it from all angles.
 
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Woody Chan said:
The GTA series is clever in how it riddicules various facets of culture. Everything from the names of the cars to the various ingame advertisments to what the characters say and do is making fun of SOMETHING. Thats why its useless to get angry about it. While Republican Space Rangers makes fun of the right wing, Impotent Rage makes fun of the left for instance.
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This is the crux of why policing art is pointless: the self-appointed art police Never. Fucking. Get. It. 90% of the time they go after stuff that actually agrees with them but which was written by someone without an atrophied irony lobe.

You never see arguably genuinely harmful shit banned, it's always classics like Huckleberry Finn. There's no reason why those intelligent enough to understand them can't have nice things just because they fly over the heads of mouth breathers who can only see things in the simplest, black and white terms possible.
 
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Haha, oh, yeah, this game is played entirely straight. It falls in to the trap a lot of poorly written stories do - being so in love with the universe that you take it too seriously while relying on "snappy" dialog of characters that are actually wooden and 1-dimensional. Take the press release for the game for example.

Years in the future, in Revolution 60 an American orbital weapons platform has drifted off course, threatening an international incident. Chessboard, a special ops group led by an artificial intelligence, has tasked a team to rendezvous with the station and regain control. In this crucial mission players are cast as Holiday, a Chessboard assassin who must decide if her loyalty is to her friends or to the mission. Featuring a fully voice acted all female cast, players undertake a series of missions, and make difficult moral choices that have significant effects on the game outcome so that every ending is different.
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It's all sweeping universes and world-saving plots and significant moral choices... in a visual novel that makes you wait 30 seconds between page flips because animations. There's no room for satire when you have one-liner spouting ultra badass superheroes. There's no rhyme or reason behind anything, it's "just cause", as in "...it looks cool", "...that's sexy", "...it's subvertive", "...I love that movie!".

Also, I discovered reading that press release that this game has "26 different battles" and "4 mini-bosses". I'm praying that the mini-bosses are counted as battles because otherwise I'm less than half way done :(
 
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I think what sealed it for me were the one-liners that Holiday kept spouting after every. Single. Solitary. BATTLE! My mind flipped between "Oh my God, they thought this was cool" and "This has to be a joke," with "We've found Video Brinquedo USA!" every few minutes. The hackneyedness and genericness got so over-the-top that after a moment I was wondering if we weren't being led around by the balls by a bunch of trolls. Then again, stuttering disbelief my first reaction to most lolcows and their work, and the quotes you transcribed make me think like "Okay, hey, it seems like they'll converse like actual human beings-dammit, never mind."

I actually kind of wonder why this WASN'T a visual novel. You can make static character art and splash images eye-catching and totally memorable, and storytelling could have been pulled to the fore if this game went that way: I don't remember anybody ragging on, say, Planetarian, my favorite kinetic novel, because it was too visually unimpressive or something. What, taking that way out to focus on storytelling or even making it a more traditional RPG would've made it too close to a Homie-approved waifu game or something?
 
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Cure Quanta said:
I actually kind of wonder why this WASN'T a visual novel.
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Because Wu likes Mass Effect

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Blonde (fuck if I remember their names):What am I going to tell her fiance?
Brunette: Maybe he's not so into personality?
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MYSOGONY ALERT

Also is it wrong that I find Cyborg Val kinda hot?
 
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I've been following Smutley's play-through (for science), and I've noticed that whilst Rev60's not horribly written, it doesn't flesh things out well and really drops the ball on making itself seem like an organic universe. Everything in it seems to feed off of contrivance. Why are all the enemies literal clones? Because they're cloned terrorists. Why are the enemy robots using our character models? Because repurposed sexbots. None of these ideas are expressly horrible, and many of them show promise, but in the hands of Brianna Wu it's like trying to watch my Cairn Terrier balance a tea set on his back whilst doing a happy dance.
 
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Ok, I just have to get this out of my system.

Years ago I stumbled upon this CGI porn clip. I don't remember where I found it, but it was one of those odd occurrences that just sort of stick around in the back of your head. Probably because the clip was some of the weirdest porn I've ever seen. Anyway, it was a gay porn about superheroes or some shit and - swear to god - the animation looked EXACTLY like the graphics for this game.
 
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Woody Chan said:
Yknow, this isnt *as bad* as I thought it would be.

If you cut the utter shit combat, it actually would resemble a Telltale game. THIS IS A GOOD THING.

I cant really comment on the plot because honestly? I think its okay. But I can comment on the combat: Its shit, thats how I feel, and I'll smash yo fuckin face, thats how I'm real.

I also like the ship designs and admitably the costume designs (except for that damn go-go outfit, seriously even in sci-fi armor is skintight tropes that makes NO GODDAMN SENSE) and how the game is /u/-shipping material fantastic.

I do wonder *how much* Wu was involved in development here. I can see her peering over the story writers shoulder and saying "DIALOG MUST BE LIKE MASS EFFECT DO IT NOW NOWNONWONWONW"
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Jesus Christ Woody you must have absolutely zero standards.
 
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Woody Chan said:
This was before the revelation of Geishabots.

Now its shit.
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Not just the story, mate.
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