Rewriting Animated Series

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I have a question for y'all. Let's say you got the rights to any animated series and you have complete control over it. Which one would you pick to change and how would you do it? You could even change the art style too if you want, even the entire premise. The possibilities are endless.
 
Oats12345 said:
Owl House but take away all the gay shit or turn the gay shit down.
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Same with Steven Universe, but also follow the perspective of characters other than Steven, demonstrate further the impact of the Gem Empire on the galaxy, and try to integrate the townie aspects of the show better with the alien magic stuff. That show had a lot of great ideas, but squandered them at every turn.
 
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"Star Vs. The Forces of Evil" in the Hannah Barbera style? But remove the shipping and melding of two dimensions.
 
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Cheerlead-in-Chief said:
"Star Vs. The Forces of Evil" in the Hannah Barbera style? But remove the shipping and melding of two dimensions.
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Same show, slightly different changes.

1.) The shipping was fine, even sweet at times, but it dragged out one season too long. Them getting together could've easily been part of the season 3 finale.
2.) Nut up and make Eclipsa the well intentioned but totalitarian dictator that she was implied to be. There were all these hints with her power of spying, mind control, etc, that she was running some kind of 1984 forced racial integration project... and then it turned out history just hated her for being a coalburner.
3.) In fact, just have more moral ambiguity between monsters and Mewmans in general. WHY were those unions feared so much? Is it possibly because, in the one example we have, it produced a child who turned out to be a total psychopath with dangerously unstable magic? Maybe those hybrids are inherently dangerous, and it ended up creating a racial tension that wouldn't exist otherwise? Because THAT would be an interesting story, much more than "wypipo colonizing muh sacred Native Americans".
4.) Not have Star destroy magic, which made no goddamn sense. Instead, democratize it so monsters can use it as well.
5.) Follow through on the "evil Marco" hints that we kept getting. Monster Arm, Toffee's mirror, his magic marks in Deep Dive... strong indications that he had both a hidden darkness and a sleeping power. I really thought Marco has going to lose his shit at some point over getting cucked and become a/THE villain, at least temporarily. Never followed up on. Maybe make him Eclipsa's student or something like that.
6.) Kill/remove Pony Head. She contributes NOTHING.

Season 2 had such amazing promise, but it just never quite delivered. There's probably more, but I've sperged about children's cartoons enough.
 
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Lord of the Large Pants said:
Same show, slightly different changes.

1.) The shipping was fine, even sweet at times, but it dragged out one season too long. Them getting together could've easily been part of the season 3 finale.
2.) Nut up and make Eclipsa the well intentioned but totalitarian dictator that she was implied to be. There were all these hints with her power of spying, mind control, etc, that she was running some kind of 1984 forced racial integration project... and then it turned out history just hated her for being a coalburner.
3.) In fact, just have more moral ambiguity between monsters and Mewmans in general. WHY were those unions feared so much? Is it possibly because, in the one example we have, it produced a child who turned out to be a total psychopath with dangerously unstable magic? Maybe those hybrids are inherently dangerous, and it ended up creating a racial tension that wouldn't exist otherwise? Because THAT would be an interesting story, much more than "wypipo colonizing muh sacred Native Americans".
4.) Not have Star destroy magic, which made no goddamn sense. Instead, democratize it so monsters can use it as well.
5.) Follow through on the "evil Marco" hints that we kept getting. Monster Arm, Toffee's mirror, his magic marks in Deep Dive... strong indications that he had both a hidden darkness and a sleeping power. I really thought Marco has going to lose his shit at some point over getting cucked and become a/THE villain, at least temporarily. Never followed up on. Maybe make him Eclipsa's student or something like that.
6.) Kill/remove Pony Head. She contributes NOTHING.

Season 2 had such amazing promise, but it just never quite delivered. There's probably more, but I've sperged about children's cartoons enough.
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I agree with all your points. I swear the show had made plenty hints of Eclipsa being a villain. I mean the show even had some of her spells that were clearly dangerous in nature in season 2 before she appeared. I would have had Eclipsa as the main antagonist of season 3 after Toffee and than season 4 you could have Marco go crazy and turn evil. Have him be the main villain of the final season. That honselty would have made it stand out form the other lore shows have the final villain be one of the main protagonists gone crazy. I agree they were clearly hinting that Marco had a dark side and I find it to be a waste that it went no wares
 
Oats12345 said:
I agree with all your points. I swear the show had made plenty hints of Eclipsa being a villain. I mean the show even had some of her spells that were clearly dangerous in nature in season 2 before she appeared. I would have had Eclipsa as the main antagonist of season 3 after Toffee and than season 4 you could have Marco go crazy and turn evil. Have him be the main villain of the final season. That honselty would have made it stand out form the other lore shows have the final villain be one of the main protagonists gone crazy. I agree they were clearly hinting that Marco had a dark side and I find it to be a waste that it went no wares
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Oh yeah, forgot about that part... nevermind Eclipsa's personal morality, we saw multiple times that she really WAS playing with dark and dangerous powers. That alone should have been a valid reason to at least not trust her, but... nope. Mewni just couldn't handle the interracial monster dickings.
 
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Lord of the Large Pants said:
Oh yeah, forgot about that part... nevermind Eclipsa's personal morality, we saw multiple times that she really WAS playing with dark and dangerous powers. That alone should have been a valid reason to at least not trust her, but... nope. Mewni just couldn't handle the interracial monster dickings.
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I seriously think she was originally ment to be evil until middle of the series the creative team decided to change their mind and made the whole thing about racism. Hell evil Marco could have been part of the originally plan as well. Just my thought with all the foreshadowing that lead to nowhere.
 
Legend of Korra.
-Don't set it in the 1920's
-Don't make the next Avatar an ass-kicking girlboss who is holding the idiot ball so closely she's gonna get a traveling penalty
-Don't have a hackneyed romance triangle that turns the entire fandom off to the very idea of this show writing romance (except for a tiny tiny subset of fetishists who think the two female characters are cute)
-Don't kill your main character's connection to the avatars of the past and then handwave it away in less than 10 minutes of screen time
Better yet,
-Don't make it at all

Unironically I'd rather watch middle-aged Aang and the gang as a sequel series over the mess that was Korra.
 
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Oats12345 said:
I seriously think she was originally ment to be evil until middle of the series the creative team decided to change their mind and made the whole thing about racism. Hell evil Marco could have been part of the originally plan as well. Just my thought with all the foreshadowing that lead to nowhere.
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Well, as far back as Mewnipendence Day in season 1, there were hints that the monster weren't as evil as everyone said and the Mewmans weren't that innocent. Which is still a story that could have been interesting, if it hadn't ended up being completely one sided.

If it had been "both our peoples made mistakes in the past, did horrible things that we regret, but it's time to move past that and live as brothers despite the danger and difficulty", that would've probably been alright. But instead it was just complaining about colonialism and wypipo.

Not to mention HOW it happened. Mewmans (which, for those who haven't seen the show, are fantasy land I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Humans) come to the monster (Native American) lands from a far off, forgotten country. Mewmans carve out a place for themselves, and Mewmans and monsters just kind of ignore each other for a few hundred years. Until Mewmans starting encroaching on monster territory, and the monsters understandably fought back. But it was all low level conflict.

Then ONE DAY, for NO REASON AT ALL, Queen Solaria decided that this was an affront to... something, I guess? So she creates a bunch of anti-monster killsquads, which the general citizenry was not really on board with. Then, ???, and then everybody hated monsters. Seriously, that's what happened.

Including the Magical High Commission, a group of demigods who oversee the balance of magic. Who should be above petty concepts like species or national politics. Yeah, they work closely with the Queen of Mewni, but... still.

For a show that was surprisingly subtle and nuanced at times, the whole thing was just so fucking... ham fisted.
 
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Lord of the Large Pants said:
Well, as far back as Mewnipendence Day in season 1, there were hints that the monster weren't as evil as everyone said and the Mewmans weren't that innocent. Which is still a story that could have been interesting, if it hadn't ended up being completely one sided.

If it had been "both our peoples made mistakes in the past, did horrible things that we regret, but it's time to move past that and live as brothers despite the danger and difficulty", that would've probably been alright. But instead it was just complaining about colonialism and wypipo.

Not to mention HOW it happened. Mewmans (which, for those who haven't seen the show, are fantasy land I-Can't-Believe-It's-Not-Humans) come to the monster (Native American) lands from a far off, forgotten country. Mewmans carve out a place for themselves, and Mewmans and monsters just kind of ignore each other for a few hundred years. Until Mewmans starting encroaching on monster territory, and the monsters understandably fought back. But it was all low level conflict.

Then ONE DAY, for NO REASON AT ALL, Queen Solaria decided that this was an affront to... something, I guess? So she creates a bunch of anti-monster killsquads, which the general citizenry was not really on board with. Then, ???, and then everybody hated monsters. Seriously, that's what happened.

Including the Magical High Commission, a group of demigods who oversee the balance of magic. Who should be above petty concepts like species or national politics. Yeah, they work closely with the Queen of Mewni, but... still.

For a show that was surprisingly subtle and nuanced at times, the whole thing was just so fucking... ham fisted.
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No I agree both were foreshadow and only one went somewhere in the story. Which suck because having both sides be kind of shitty would have been realistic and good story telling. But instead they decided to go full no Mewmens were in the wrong. Monsters were innocent.

Like I said Eclipsa should have been a villain who was still complex at the same time.
 
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What if "DBZ" was animated in the Western style of old cartoons? They already have the Pugnacious Character template for most of the fighters.
 
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