(((Richard B. Spencer))) - Child Porn Supporting "Founder" of the "Alt-Right", Cucked by ANTIFA, Soyboy, ALLEGED Wife Beater

The imperial ambitions are for Europe, connected with his new pagan ideology. In 2017 he self described as a "spiritual christian", now he completely rejects christianity and sees it as a weakness. So he's contrarian to the dissident right, because the trend seems to be to convert.

It's hard to describe where he is, but I'll provide an example: the talking points of the right against Biden, Trudeau, Macron, Merkel, and the entire neo-liberal establishment were about tyranny, masks, vaccines, the lockdowns, free speech etc - and Spencer is a good old fascist, that thinks the role of the state is exactly that, to rule the people even if it's against their will. I think the people that call him fed all the time don't get that.
I can't wait for when he and Mark Brahmin inevitably split. I've seen on their twitter accounts-a lot of the followers of Mark's e-cult are very unhappy with Spencer. Spencer's stanning of Ukraine when it has a Jewish president and some of his rhetoric(one Appollonian stated "earlier Spencer said he would fight Whites even if they were the dumbest" but now Spencer seems to think most Whites deserve to perish/or is at least indifferent to them.

Tangent about Mark Brahmin (relevant insofar as he's been a longstanding part of Spencer's main crew)-

It's hard to get to the bottom of what Brahmin actually believes. His writings are obscure, and don't seem to have any introductory text. I saw about half of this video a few months ago:


It starts off decent before becoming a kind of debate about obscure facts and methodologies. What really stands out to me, though, is that Mark Brahmin talks like a schizophrenic person: He doesn't actually defend any of his views well, he just describes some vague similarity between two things, draws a far-reaching conclusion, and uses the word "clearly" to link the two ideas. For instance, he says that Baldr comes from Jewish thought, because he's a diety that dies, so "clearly" he must have been implanted there by Jewish people, because there is a diety that shares this superficial similarity in a Jewish-origin religion. For all of his great education (and he clearly knows a lot of information), he just talks like a garden-variety conspiracy nut to support his views.
Brief comment on this.

Brahmin doesn't articulate his own beliefs very well, some of his supporters do.

Basically he argues Jews emerged as a sort of priest caste in Sumer and elsewhere-a social type more than a race, that undermined Aryan(TM) warrior elites with things like poetry, metaphysics, philosophy, and uh well just thinking in general for access to Aryan women and money. Dionysianism-the religion of the Jew, and his antecedents, is emotional, sexually predatory, and chthonic, whereas Apollo represents the Aryan, being masculine, and just aping fourteen year olds who discovered Nietzche.

Mark is an atheist, as are his followers-they don't believe Apollo exists as an actual being, he's just a representation of or symbolic metaphor for the Aryan race itself.

His main thesis is Jews subtly demoralize Aryans with JEM-Jewish Esoteric Moralization(basically a sort of esoteric propaganda or coding-similar to other conspiracy theories about hidden messages), and thus all art even as far back as the Iliad is a Jewish product to weaken Aryans.

Its insane, but its what he believes. Thus Apollonians and Brahmin don't care about discussing morality, or philosophy-and have actually claimed "any sort of thinking about abstraction is Jewish", and are more interested in the role of art as propaganda, combine that with Greco-Roman larping, and sexual insecurities(the White woman needs protecting from the clever Jew who will steal her heart and take her genes), and you get an e-religion that is as blasely cynical as it is hilarious.

Spencer likes this because it fits his Imperium centric way of thinking, as well as his claimed elitism. Neither he nor Mark care much for most Whites, and aren't really interested in convincing them that they should sign on with their project, they'll eventually die off due to not reproducing or miscegnation, and a core of Aryan elite(TM) ubermenschen will somehow ride back into power over the brown masses...somehow.*

*one apollonian casually talked about "in the future our apollonian state in western europe" as if they were totes going to seize power in a generation or two.
 
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Part of Spencer's schtick nowadays seems to be counter signaling conservatives at every opportunity. Whether he genuinely believes this will somehow impress status motivated liberals, or its simply a new and convoluted form of trolling is impossible for anyone to know but him.

His cronies and minions' main takes seem to be-conservatives are dumb, liberals can somehow be convinced to be racist if your pp looks reasonably handsome and dunk on conservatives, the EU will save the huyte race, and uh that's it. Also, its passe to talk about Jews, degeneracy, or really anything else the Alt Right was concerned with-its either unimportant or just so not this year.
 
Saw this on a /pol/ thread and it made me laugh.
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Part of Spencer's schtick nowadays seems to be counter signaling conservatives at every opportunity. Whether he genuinely believes this will somehow impress status motivated liberals, or its simply a new and convoluted form of trolling is impossible for anyone to know but him.

His cronies and minions' main takes seem to be-conservatives are dumb, liberals can somehow be convinced to be racist if your pp looks reasonably handsome and dunk on conservatives, the EU will save the huyte race, and uh that's it. Also, its passe to talk about Jews, degeneracy, or really anything else the Alt Right was concerned with-its either unimportant or just so not this year.
At this point I think Richard realized that his political career and ambitions are dead. Right now he seems to be trying to save face for the powers at be as a desperate attempt to be "redeemed" by them. He doesn't want to die while having a wikipedia article that goes "he died as a white supremacist that said hail Trump"
 
He put out a series of tweets about the Coach Red Pill situation earlier this week. Despite both being involved in the IBS scene, Spencer claims he had no idea about his MRA schtick and only remembered him from his libertarian days.

During his tweet thread he put out one of the least self-aware tweets I have ever seen from him.
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I can't tell if he just deliberately trolling or if he genuinely believes he is above that.
 
The imperial ambitions are for Europe, connected with his new pagan ideology. In 2017 he self described as a "spiritual christian", now he completely rejects christianity and sees it as a weakness. So he's contrarian to the dissident right, because the trend seems to be to convert.
Richard Spencer called himself a "cultural Christian," not a "spiritual Christian." Those are opposites. The implication is that he didn't actually actively believe in Christian myths and metaphysics. Interestingly, I remember that Andrew Anglin said something similar. (I saw this as a clip on a Youtube channel, and I believe they were sharing an interview.) He said "When someone asks me about my religion, I just say I'm Christian." This also implies he didn't actually believe in Christianity.

A few years later, they've gone in opposite directions. Spencer is hostile to Christianity and Anglin shills it like an old-fashioned televangelist. I think it's just a class thing: Spencer wants people highly-educated people and Anglin wants barely literate zoomers who are moving on from America First.

His main thesis is Jews subtly demoralize Aryans with JEM-Jewish Esoteric Moralization(basically a sort of esoteric propaganda or coding-similar to other conspiracy theories about hidden messages), and thus all art even as far back as the Iliad is a Jewish product to weaken Aryans.
"Whites are the superior race. Here, I will explain why all of their cultural achievements are Jewish trash."

Brahmin might be the most esoteric and bizarre theorist I've encountered on the internet, so I guess he gets credit for that.

He and Greg Johnson have spoken in defense of gays and homosexuality many times. Depends on you if that is evidence of someones sexuality. It seems to be enough for annymous commenters.
Greg Johnson did speak in defense of homosexuals, but did Spencer? Or did he just talk about homosexuality in a non-hysterical way? Please give specific examples. I'm not interested in hearsay.
 
Greg Johnson did speak in defense of homosexuals, but did Spencer? Or did he just talk about homosexuality in a non-hysterical way? Please give specific examples. I'm not interested in hearsay.
Richard Spencer, president of the white-nationalist National Policy Institute who is considered one of the founders of the Alt Right movement, has also made overtures toward LGBT people, explicitly barring homophobes from the organization’s annual conference in 2015. Matthew Heimbach of the Traditionalist Youth Network (TYN) was reportedly disinvited from the event for his anti-gay views, while Jack Donovan, an openly gay Alt-Right author, was a key speaker.
 
Part of Spencer's schtick nowadays seems to be counter signaling conservatives at every opportunity. Whether he genuinely believes this will somehow impress status motivated liberals, or its simply a new and convoluted form of trolling is impossible for anyone to know but him.

His cronies and minions' main takes seem to be-conservatives are dumb, liberals can somehow be convinced to be racist if your pp looks reasonably handsome and dunk on conservatives, the EU will save the huyte race, and uh that's it. Also, its passe to talk about Jews, degeneracy, or really anything else the Alt Right was concerned with-its either unimportant or just so not this year.
Well there's the ever present contrarianism, but also Spencer is attacking contemporary dissident rightists for cribbing their political understanding, their concerns and goals within 1980s and 90s paleoconservatism and white nationalism. In the sense that their frame of reference is obsolete. The America of 40 years ago is gone, and cargo-culting it serves no productive purpose.

It's a tough pill that has to be swallowed eventually, but it's coming from Spencer. So there's that.

He and Greg Johnson have spoken in defense of gays and homosexuality many times. Depends on you if that is evidence of someones sexuality. It seems to be enough for annymous commenters.
Seems ambivalent-to-critical, tbh.
 
I'm aware of him shunning Heimbach (which we can tell is a case of good judgment at this point), but is that really because Heimbach was anti-gay, or because he was physically repulsive, trashy, and repellant to anyone who respects the atmosphere of an intellectual conference?

What I'm trying to say is that there is a difference between being critical of something (which the majority of NPI attendees probably were towards gays) on one hand and being hysterical ("this is an urgent issue") and repulsive (constant lucid references to anal sex and other perversions) on the other hand. A lot of the Christian alt-right guys are the latter. They don't seem to have the social skills to understand that it comes off as repulsive even to a lot of people who are generally conservative on the issue.
 
Well there's the ever present contrarianism, but also Spencer is attacking contemporary dissident rightists for cribbing their political understanding, their concerns and goals within 1980s and 90s paleoconservatism and white nationalism. In the sense that their frame of reference is obsolete. The America of 40 years ago is gone, and cargo-culting it serves no productive purpose.

It's a tough pill that has to be swallowed eventually, but it's coming from Spencer. So there's that.
I don't think anyone thinks we can go back to the nineties or eighties. I mean maybe some people do, but I'm not sure where he thinks that's the dominant ideal.

Spencer on the other hand seems to think that White liberals on the NE coast will be impressed with his geopolitical takes and attacking conservatives, and somehow this will make them support White Europa(TM). He has no program or ideal, beyond the aforementioned apollonian/nietzchean larp that totally elite eugenic Whites such as himself will survive to take back power somehow.

Accuse a lot of right wingers of larping if you want, but Spencer's whole "plan" such as its even sincere is just self masturbatory nonsense.

"Whites are the superior race. Here, I will explain why all of their cultural achievements are Jewish trash."

Brahmin might be the most esoteric and bizarre theorist I've encountered on the internet, so I guess he gets credit for that.
Indeed.

He is bizarre, and his ideas often involve a lot of schizo etymology-and an utter lack of engagement with any scholarship on Judaism, Christianity, the ancient near east, indo-european linguistics, or really anything else. But he presents them in a way that is confident and self-assured.

I'll give him credit-he does have occasional rhetorical flourishes such as postmodernism being "exhausted souls sinking into Tartarus" and one his followers saying something about Aryans being the center of the world-not western, eastern, northern, or southern. It was strikingly poetic and compelling in just a writing sense. So sometimes they can really turn a phrase, and they don't lack for cocksureness, which is something I guess.

Saw this on a /pol/ thread and it made me laugh.
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At this point I think Richard realized that his political career and ambitions are dead. Right now he seems to be trying to save face for the powers at be as a desperate attempt to be "redeemed" by them. He doesn't want to die while having a wikipedia article that goes "he died as a white supremacist that said hail Trump"
I mean he could do the "redeemed ex Nazi" arc. Say he rejected White supremacy and is committed to undoing the harm he caused. But I don't think he would ever humiliate himself like that.
 
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I mean he could do the "redeemed ex Nazi" arc. Say he rejected White supremacy and is committed to undoing the harm he caused. But I don't think he would ever humiliate himself like that.

The Redeemed Nazi arc doesn't really work at the level of former 'leaders' or prominent influencers, these are generally crushed, humiliated and send to the gulag (doxxed, deplatformed, disowned by family, excommunicated by polite society and reduced to menial labour) in order to set an example. If you look at all the Redeemed Nazi 'deradicalisation' people, it's always low level street activists (former skinheads) and mid to low tier SM influencers (some breadtubers), and their position in the libtard-progressive social hierarchy is always around the lower middle tier. It is simply too crowded in the libtard camp for converts to get any position of note. Note that only defectors from the libtard camp to the conservatard camp get nice media/politics gigs, it doesn't work the other way around.

Spencer is bitter 'his' movement failed and its adherents largely left him behind, and like the scorned narcissist he is, he is in the devaluation/discard phase of his relationship with his former clan. He'll keep countersignalling the dissident right anons, continue to do half assed 'intellectual' work in a dilletante fashion to fill his days while he continues to enjoy his trust fund and waits for his inheritance. Lots of rich, prominent families have their black sheep, crazy Nazi great-uncles, unhinged harpy Antifa nieces, about who the others stay silent. Hell, one of Spencer's early backers, William Henry Regnery II was exactly one of those. The family bites their lip and hopes the issue is forgotten about over time. Spencer's Wikipedia will resemble that of Regnery once he dies.
 
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Was Richard Spencer ever a significant leader of anyone outside of the fever dreams/propaganda of the state-media?

I put the quotation marks there for a reason. But the wignat faction which attempted to hijack the broad-tent alt-right after Trump won certainly took him seriously, he was slated as a main speaker at the Charlottesville rally, that must have meant something.
 
Spencer on the other hand seems to think that White liberals on the NE coast will be impressed with his geopolitical takes and attacking conservatives, and somehow this will make them support White Europa(TM). He has no program or ideal, beyond the aforementioned apollonian/nietzchean larp that totally elite eugenic Whites such as himself will survive to take back power somehow.
For all intents and purposes, he is a NE-style liberal, they just want nothing to do with him. He was raised as one, went to the same schools as one, etc. Spencer and guys like Heimbach are nothing alike. Since Spencer fashions himself a Machiavellian, he probably thought everything would be okay as long as guys like Heimbach are under his thumb and know their role. However he was never going to share power with these guys. It’s why Spencer checked out of the alt right so quickly. Since he fashions himself a Bond villain, this would like Blofeld flouncing the first time Bond would attempt to foil his plan.

But Spencer regressed back to his pre-salad days of pretending to lead the alt right, which is being a NE-style liberal. Everything makes sense in that lens, even that dumb Apollo-based religion because nobody can come up with that level of retarded and nonsensical psuedo-philosophies quite like rich white people.
 
I don't think anyone thinks we can go back to the nineties or eighties. I mean maybe some people do, but I'm not sure where he thinks that's the dominant ideal.

Spencer on the other hand seems to think that White liberals on the NE coast will be impressed with his geopolitical takes and attacking conservatives, and somehow this will make them support White Europa(TM). He has no program or ideal, beyond the aforementioned apollonian/nietzchean larp that totally elite eugenic Whites such as himself will survive to take back power somehow.

Accuse a lot of right wingers of larping if you want, but Spencer's whole "plan" such as its even sincere is just self masturbatory nonsense.


Indeed.

He is bizarre, and his ideas often involve a lot of schizo etymology-and an utter lack of engagement with any scholarship on Judaism, Christianity, the ancient near east, indo-european linguistics, or really anything else. But he presents them in a way that is confident and self-assured.

I'll give him credit-he does have occasional rhetorical flourishes such as postmodernism being "exhausted souls sinking into Tartarus" and one his followers saying something about Aryans being the center of the world-not western, eastern, northern, or southern. It was strikingly poetic and compelling in just a writing sense. So sometimes they can really turn a phrase, and they don't lack for cocksureness, which is something I guess.


I mean he could do the "redeemed ex Nazi" arc. Say he rejected White supremacy and is committed to undoing the harm he caused. But I don't think he would ever humiliate himself like that.
He's not saying they view that Era as an ideal, or they'd like to go back to that stretch of time in particular (some definitely do). He's saying they never left it mentally.

One of Spencer's claims is that the very fact people even discuss immigration restrictions and deportations shows they've lost the plot. I tend to agree. We're clearly past that.

His whole thing is thinking about a future in which white people don't have popular political power like we used to (or rather the pretense IMO). You need to convince elites, or start building a counter-elite. Though I don't see how Apollonianism or appealing to the most debased libtards on Twitter accomplishes this. It might just be Spencer trolling.
 
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