(((Richard B. Spencer))) - Child Porn Supporting "Founder" of the "Alt-Right", Cucked by ANTIFA, Soyboy, ALLEGED Wife Beater

[Ishtar]

He put out a really dumb Twitter thread the other day about the shooting in the buffalo. While it went largely ignored as all his tweets do, this one just happened to get heavily ratioed for reasons you can all understand.
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I know he is trolling to some extent, but he is just such so mind-numbingly infuriating with his behavior. His willingness to throw everyone underneath the bus because of his own vindictive behavior makes him such a massive piece of shit.

I am literally at the point now where if he was assaulted by some left-wing activist I would not care. He deserves all the pain and suffering he receives.

this is also a lie. Red pilling has awakened large swathes of the white population to what is really going on. Before 2017-the average republican had never heard of the great replacement, and more people are aware of Jewish perfidy than since...the 1940s. Obviously not the majority of the public, much less elected representatives.

Yes it leads to some misdirection, missteps and misfires-and these bouts of violence, but the patience and propaganda of the alt/dissident right has effected a change in public opinion over the last 15-20 odd years.

Spencer is trying to get in good with liberals, this whole ubermenschen for Europa rebrand is a clumsy way of disguising this.

 

[pharaohwewuz]

Apparently Implicit Dicky now endorses drag queen story hours to epically pwn the conservatards

Keith Woods his jilted ex dunked on him on Telegram for it and here he is hedging after Mark Brahmin chimped out about Woods' post:

In other news he praises Laura Loomer kvetching about Christian nationalists being antisemitititic and gets the approval of Lion of the Blogosphere/Half Sigma, an ancient Jewish blogger from NRx circles who now spends his days tweeting to no one about the latest coof variants

 

[Ishtar]

Apparently Implicit Dicky now endorses drag queen story hours to epically pwn the conservatards
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Keith Woods his jilted ex dunked on him on Telegram for it and here he is hedging after Mark Brahmin chimped out about Woods' post:
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In other news he praises Laura Loomer kvetching about Christian nationalists being antisemitititic and gets the approval of Lion of the Blogosphere/Half Sigma, an ancient Jewish blogger from NRx circles who now spends his days tweeting to no one about the latest coof variants
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He's basically just restating Brahmin's "christianity is a jewish plot" line verbatim. Then again he did say that only Jewish intellectuals on the right were of any value/insight...so?

As for the original tweet-it doesn't remotely mention conservatives or say what Spencer thought it did. (conservatives are silly and neurotic for being bothered by it). He's either unable to read or he's lying-I'll presume it was the latter simply to own conservatives. His response when confronted is also intentionally ambiguous-he doesn't condemn it. Just insinuates his interlocutors are obsessed and petty.

Spencer and Brahmin seem to be playing tag team here-Spencer comes across as disingenuous yet indifferent, whereas Brahmin tries to come across as firm yet judicious. Spencer deflects and mocks critics, Brahmin calls them pussies who won't grok a direct confrontation.

Its bullshit obviously, but 9/10 on coordinated PR.

 

[LordofCringe7206]

I don't know if the TRS guys bashed him on a podcast recently or something, but Spencer had a multi-tweet spergout over them the other day.

I don't know if he has been having a bad week or something because he's been flipping out a lot on Twitter the past few days. From the Elon Musk Twitter deal to the groupers to virtually everyone else he has a problem with.

Spoiler: This weeks tweets

 

[Ishtar]

Some context-the NJP has been focusing a lot of energy on the Jupiter Paulsen case-where some nigger stabbed a white girl to death. Protests, media press releases, the whole shebang.

The NJP's model here seems to be "look Whites are being physically attacked, we need to fucking do something"-even if that something is as milquetoast as screaming on a street corner.

I completely sympathize-especially when the media hides such things, and Jewish authors tacitly acknowledge its factual validity "they say whites are being attacked, this case fits this cleanly...anyway nazis are bad, white people dying is ok".

Its a very emotional sort of politics, the NJP's propaganda and articles are intended to make you righteously angry, and not much else.

Maybe Spencer wasn't paying attention or he doesn't care-if the latter he looks bad. But it doesn't matter.

In his defense however-the NJP model will never work, ZOG and non Whites will never feel sympathy for Whites, or give them some sort of affirmation-its basically shouting "white lives matter"-its passive and in some ways pathetic, because to Jews and blacks the natural response is "lol no they don't" and keep on doing what they do.

Spencer could clearly have expressed this better. If he actually was paying attention to what NJP is on about. If he is, then it confirms my suspicion that he literally does not care about Whites especially lower class ones. If he wasn't then this is just another Spencer attempting to "own" people who he dislikes.

I'd say both parties look bad here-Spencer comes across as indifferent and casual about the very real harm inflicted on Whites-especially of working class backgrounds, and the NJP's message is fundamentally passive and speaks to their own political passivity.

*As an aside, I think this speaks to lasting divisions within the alt right itself. That of class. Striker and TRS have a far more working class focus, especially of former industrial zones and the east coast, whereas Spencer came from money and even now structures his takes to appeal to well heeled upper middle class Whites. Then you have...I dunno Fuentes? Who strikes me as more middle class in character, though someone correct me if I'm wrong on that.

These sorts of class divisions, as well as regional differences-between southerners, midwesterners, and alt righters from upstate new york are a vastly understudied reason for its collapse and often vicious infighting.

 

[believe all women]

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This is just dishonest. TRS thought that it was a misguided and foolish thing to do, in the context of conservative politics, but that the people had grievances against the US government. Mike Enoch has explicitly said that he doesn't believe that election fraud was a major factor in Joe Biden's victory in the election, which was the primary driver of the riot. TRS/NJP hate Republicans. They always have, and have been quite open about it. They've called the mainstream Republican party their main obstacle in implementing the kind of politics they want.

He was just as enthusiastic as they were about the Trump campaign in 2016, and both parties have distanced themselves in the following years. Yet Spencer thinks he is standing on some kind of high ground, talking down to idiots and simpletons. He is just a repulsively smarmy person.

The NJP's model here seems to be "look Whites are being physically attacked, we need to fucking do something"-even if that something is as milquetoast as screaming on a street corner.

I completely sympathize-especially when the media hides such things, and Jewish authors tacitly acknowledge its factual validity "they say whites are being attacked, this case fits this cleanly...anyway nazis are bad, white people dying is ok".

I'm not sure if this is the ideal approach for gaining supporters, but it is certainly the reason for some whites being in the dissident right. Pretending to be some kind of übermensch is a retarded non-starter. If you remember the "Neo-Reactionary" movement that was popular a few years ago, they followed a similar approach: Computer nerds pretending to be haughty, aloof aristocrats and such. The remains of the alt right has seeded numerous memes into the popular culture, while the neo-reactionaries are remembered for being pretentious, if anything. So what sounds like a more effective approach?

 

[pharaohwewuz]

I don't know if he has been having a bad week or something because he's been flipping out a lot on Twitter the past few days. From the Elon Musk Twitter deal to the groupers to virtually everyone else he has a problem with.

He might be legitimately rattled by the Twitter news, he was really excited about the possibility of Daddy Musk authenticating all humans. Check out his past tweets about Musk, it's a real roller coaster.

 

[Ishtar]

This is just dishonest. TRS thought that it was a misguided and foolish thing to do, in the context of conservative politics, but that the people had grievances against the US government. Mike Enoch has explicitly said that he doesn't believe that election fraud was a major factor in Joe Biden's victory in the election, which was the primary driver of the riot. TRS/NJP hate Republicans. They always have, and have been quite open about it. They've called the mainstream Republican party their main obstacle in implementing the kind of politics they want.

He was just as enthusiastic as they were about the Trump campaign in 2016, and both parties have distanced themselves in the following years. Yet Spencer thinks he is standing on some kind of high ground, talking down to idiots and simpletons. He is just a repulsively smarmy person.

I'm not sure if this is the ideal approach for gaining supporters, but it is certainly the reason for some whites being in the dissident right. Pretending to be some kind of übermensch is a retarded non-starter. If you remember the "Neo-Reactionary" movement that was popular a few years ago, they followed a similar approach: Computer nerds pretending to be haughty, aloof aristocrats and such. The remains of the alt right has seeded numerous memes into the popular culture, while the neo-reactionaries are remembered for being pretentious, if anything. So what sounds like a more effective approach?

I think there’s a problem with the fact that one-painting Whites as victims is demoralizing and secondly, unless you are willing to Fedpost in RL it comes off as weak. Are the NJP going to lynch the black in question? Are they going to assassinate the Jewish author that attacked them? The Antifa counter protestors?

Obviously not. You can point out a million and one examples of black savagery and Antifa and Jewish malice-and all you will get is angry and upset, justifiably so-but what exactly does Eric Striker want Whites to do about it? Join the NJP? Have shouting matches with Antifa vermin on the street?

I may be giving too much credit to Spencer-but I think he’d probably argue that this anger is simply wasted and achieves nothing. That this entire frame-Whites as victims just makes one helplessly passive and combine that with denunciations of ZOG-dead weight. Because after all you don’t want to go to jail do you? If you really care about Paulsen’s case or any other such incident you ought to be willing to kill for it, Trump supporters were willing to be arrested and took radical action, what exactly is the NJP doing?

That is the most charitable reading of Spencer’s statement I can think of. He’ll probably prove me wrong to be so generous, but I’ll give some benefit of the doubt on this.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Spencer doesn't have a lot of options. Look at what happened to Matt Heimbach (a contemporary of Spencer's, who was involved in various racialist groups and came out as an anti-racist in 2020, IIRC). If you go to his SPLC page, it treats him as if he is still an enemy, and mentions in a single sentence that he apparently rescinded his views.

1) Become a fed. Occupy a position of being simultaneously hated by the left and mainstream, because you continue to talk like a radical, and also hated by anyone who shares your radical ideology, if they find out that you're compromised. The benefit to this is that you don't go to jail.
2) Become a born-again liberal. If he does this, he will be featured in a few media articles and features for a few weeks at most. When he's done with all that, he will be treated with suspicion and hatred by leftists.
3) Continue to occupy the same position that he has for a long time. This is not an appealing option for a guy who is losing interest and is already considered untrustworthy, but this is his best option for saving his dignity.

If Spencer thinks he is going to occupy a fourth option where he can continue to act like a James Bond villain but liberals will tune in to listen to his novelty takes, that's too bad for him.

wouldn't the smartest move be to just fuck off to the 3rd world? just do what other people with his beliefs did and go "america can't be saved so i escaped to Serbia/Weevland/Mexico/Argentina/etc. to start a new life because of it" Just in terms of far-right ex-pats he clearly looks better than most of them and they all got wives and kids. even Drake Bell got away with starting a new life for years and he was a fuckload more famous with a much more unique name than Rich.

in a lot of countries his views would be more moderate plus he could always continue his writing somewhere else. Speaking of which, WTF has he been doing for work? all these political talking heads just leave the public eye yet don't seem to be working some shit job like hotel concierge yet.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

Some context-the NJP has been focusing a lot of energy on the Jupiter Paulsen case-where some nigger stabbed a white girl to death. Protests, media press releases, the whole shebang.

The NJP's model here seems to be "look Whites are being physically attacked, we need to fucking do something"-even if that something is as milquetoast as screaming on a street corner.

I completely sympathize-especially when the media hides such things, and Jewish authors tacitly acknowledge its factual validity "they say whites are being attacked, this case fits this cleanly...anyway nazis are bad, white people dying is ok".

Its a very emotional sort of politics, the NJP's propaganda and articles are intended to make you righteously angry, and not much else.

Maybe Spencer wasn't paying attention or he doesn't care-if the latter he looks bad. But it doesn't matter.

In his defense however-the NJP model will never work, ZOG and non Whites will never feel sympathy for Whites, or give them some sort of affirmation-its basically shouting "white lives matter"-its passive and in some ways pathetic, because to Jews and blacks the natural response is "lol no they don't" and keep on doing what they do.

Spencer could clearly have expressed this better. If he actually was paying attention to what NJP is on about. If he is, then it confirms my suspicion that he literally does not care about Whites especially lower class ones. If he wasn't then this is just another Spencer attempting to "own" people who he dislikes.

I'd say both parties look bad here-Spencer comes across as indifferent and casual about the very real harm inflicted on Whites-especially of working class backgrounds, and the NJP's message is fundamentally passive and speaks to their own political passivity.

*As an aside, I think this speaks to lasting divisions within the alt right itself. That of class. Striker and TRS have a far more working class focus, especially of former industrial zones and the east coast, whereas Spencer came from money and even now structures his takes to appeal to well heeled upper middle class Whites. Then you have...I dunno Fuentes? Who strikes me as more middle class in character, though someone correct me if I'm wrong on that.

These sorts of class divisions, as well as regional differences-between southerners, midwesterners, and alt righters from upstate new york are a vastly understudied reason for its collapse and often vicious infighting.

What exactly does Richard Spencer value outside of himself?

I'm not sure if this is the ideal approach for gaining supporters, but it is certainly the reason for some whites being in the dissident right. Pretending to be some kind of übermensch is a retarded non-starter. If you remember the "Neo-Reactionary" movement that was popular a few years ago, they followed a similar approach: Computer nerds pretending to be haughty, aloof aristocrats and such. The remains of the alt right has seeded numerous memes into the popular culture, while the neo-reactionaries are remembered for being pretentious, if anything. So what sounds like a more effective approach?

At least the Mencius Moldbug neo-reactionaries types are still slowly putting the right ideas into peoples heads and are still around. Name me anyone who still considers themselves alt-right.

 

[Ishtar]

"White people are being attacked!" is a great way to get people to join the dissident right, you have to be utterly brainwashed or deracinated to not see nigger savagery and start asking questions about moustache man and official narratives of American history, its a poor model for political action.

Whites don't have a collective identity-so getting Whites en masse to act on the basis of self defense is a non starter, it tacitly makes a plea to our enemies-that will never be accepted, and it inculcates a passive mindset-if you want to shout on the street or at a screen over nigger criminality-that's easy, its also non productive in that you aren't doing anything about it.

That said, I'm sure Spencer is utterly indifferent to the Paulsen case and other such incidents-he came from money, and has likely never had to enter a ghetto, or a rapidly declining neighborhood or felt uneasy at an exurban mcdonald's, much less seen black behavior at anything more than a distance.

TRS on the other hand both tries to appeal and comes from Whites-that do have such backgrounds.

 

[believe all women]

I think there’s a problem with the fact that one-painting Whites as victims is demoralizing

It's honest. The problem with lots of white Americans, especially those that are Gen X and older, is that they can't even imagine an America where whites are not comfortable and in charge. This is where sympathy for the "white privilege" narrative comes from. Younger generations of people, especially those on the lower side of the socioeconomic scale, have been in social situations where whites are minorities, and they know that minorities will happily push them aside, and some will genuinely hate them.

Obviously not. You can point out a million and one examples of black savagery and Antifa and Jewish malice-and all you will get is angry and upset, justifiably so-but what exactly does Eric Striker want Whites to do about it? Join the NJP? Have shouting matches with Antifa vermin on the street?

I've got to admit that, in the context of United States politics, I have no idea what they could do. But we could infer from the establishment's reactions to any pro-white meme spreading that they are utterly terrified of pro-white narratives becoming popular. Whatever your enemy fears is probably going to help you.

At least the Mencius Moldbug neo-reactionaries types are still slowly putting the right ideas into peoples heads and are still around. Name me anyone who still considers themselves alt-right.

They are allowed to exist because they are utterly impotent and irrelevant. They are self-marginalizing, creating grandiose narratives about themselves while affecting nothing in the real world.

 

[popnloch ness monster]

but Spencer had a multi-tweet spergout over them the other day

what a retard he is, TRS have been like the only people who've treated his public person with the warranted level of nuance to not fall into the usual low IQ antagonism of calling him a gay, a fed and the rest of it, and have treated all his actual business, political and character failings with kid gloves

 

[Ishtar]

It's honest. The problem with lots of white Americans, especially those that are Gen X and older, is that they can't even imagine an America where whites are not comfortable and in charge. This is where sympathy for the "white privilege" narrative comes from. Younger generations of people, especially those on the lower side of the socioeconomic scale, have been in social situations where whites are minorities, and they know that minorities will happily push them aside, and some will genuinely hate them.

It also doesn't appeal to people of middle or upper class backgrounds. TRS speaks to working class whites in the situations you cite. Middle class Whites and those of wealth are going to find the propaganda as hackneyed as that Jewish journalist spencer cited. Whether or not they sympathize. That may be a failing of upper crust Whites, but there is some argument to be made that appealing to lower class Whites will simply net a passive movement motivated by resentment-justified or not that doesn't have the moral confidence or composure to win. You don't need to be an internet nietzchean or le apollonian or whatever to see how that could occur.

I've got to admit that, in the context of United States politics, I have no idea what they could do. But we could infer from the establishment's reactions to any pro-white meme spreading that they are utterly terrified of pro-white narratives becoming popular. Whatever your enemy fears is probably going to help you.

Ultimately you need to both shift the political sphere and do RL fedposting. And that is a generous assessment.

Again I think this speaks to how class divides the dissident right-Spencer comes from money, Brahmin either comes from money or wishes he did, their respective cronies all structure their pps and diction to appeal to educated higher status Whites, TRS does the opposite. It appeals to Whites in declining post industrial cities, to descedants of ethnic Whites in places like New York and Boston, and so on.

There are other divisions-southerners, midwesterners, middle class backgrounded kids from Chicago and Nashville, etc... that speak different lingos, structure their messages to different audiences, and have different ideas to what the future would look like.

How you reconcile these divisions I have no idea, but clearly it won't be anytime soon.

 

[Punchoboe]

I don't know if the TRS guys bashed him on a podcast recently or something, but Spencer had a multi-tweet spergout over them the other day.

When Spencer claims that the Jan 6 protesters wanted to have Trump installed as a dictator, he's just lying. He's been around the American right too long to believe that.

These sorts of class divisions, as well as regional differences-between southerners, midwesterners, and alt righters from upstate new york are a vastly understudied reason for its collapse and often vicious infighting.

Whiteness is not a nation, which is a significant reason white nationalism never made it out of the fringes, even though many millions disagree with diversity, poz and multiculturalism.

Even worse, white nationalism devolves into a twisted mythology of life as a Manichaean struggle of Faustian Whites vs. Jewish masters who constantly outwit them. It devolves into a parody of itself, a doctrine of defeat.

 

[believe all women]

It also doesn't appeal to people of middle or upper class backgrounds. TRS speaks to working class whites in the situations you cite. Middle class Whites and those of wealth are going to find the propaganda as hackneyed as that Jewish journalist spencer cited. Whether or not they sympathize. That may be a failing of upper crust Whites,

When it comes to upper middle class Americans, I think they're just too vapid to ever be useful. Upper middle class people are the ones who "buy in" to the system the most: They get most of the good jobs, the good educational positions, the penthouses and big research grants. They are materialistic and never shut up about their jobs. Whatever is respectable and fashionable rules their minds. I don't think most of them could even conceptualize something like intellectual integrity or moral courage.

As for winning truly these people over, you have to completely take over society and tell them that being dissident right (no longer dissident in this case) is how they get into law school or get the promotion. The best way to deal with them in the short term, I think, is just to make leftism such an embarrassing and shameful position to have that they're not willing to articulate these opinions openly.

Again I think this speaks to how class divides the dissident right-Spencer comes from money, Brahmin either comes from money or wishes he did, their respective cronies all structure their pps and diction to appeal to educated higher status Whites, TRS does the opposite. It appeals to Whites in declining post industrial cities, to descedants of ethnic Whites in places like New York and Boston, and so on.

Spencer coming from the upper middle class makes complete sense in regards to his worst traits: Being prissy, vain, and preferring attention-grabbing statements over any substantial and specific set of beliefs.

When you say "TRS does the opposite," I think you mean that Mike Enoch and The Daily Shoah do the opposite. Plenty of guys on TRS conduct dialog on a more educated level. If you take the "alt right" jargon out of FTN, it's sounds like educated upper middle class guys talking about politics. Guys like Borzoi are nerds with niche hobbies, and discusses Baudrillard during movie reviews. Does that sound "working class" to you?

Rather than appealing to the working class of America, the dissident right is, whether consciously or unconsciously, trying to undo the very American-ness of the American political space: They want collectivism rather than individualism, tradition rather than revolution, blood and soil rather than money, and so on. This isn't really a class thing, this is a negation of the American spirit.

There are other divisions-southerners, midwesterners, middle class backgrounded kids from Chicago and Nashville, etc... that speak different lingos, structure their messages to different audiences, and have different ideas to what the future would look like.

I think American regional differences matter less than they ever have before, and will continue to decline in relevance. All these kids are watching the same media, occupying the same spaces online, and reading the same news on the internet.

 

[Can't Stand Ya]

Then you have...I dunno Fuentes? Who strikes me as more middle class in character, though someone correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Fuentes is upper-middle class, but he has spoken multiple times about how much he despises working class and lower class whites. Also rural whites, regardless of their actual economic situation. It's funny how similar he is to Spencer considering they vehemently hate each other.

 

[Punchoboe]

Fuentes is upper-middle class, but he has spoken multiple times about how much he despises working class and lower class whites. Also rural whites, regardless of their actual economic situation. It's funny how similar he is to Spencer considering they vehemently hate each other.

Mainstream Republicans and the dissident right compete to show how much they hate Americans as people.

Spencer has never made a secret of his resentments, which may come from spending so much time in Texas, where he is a misfit.

 

[pharaohwewuz]

At this point Stockholm syndrome should be renamed Spencer syndrome, because sheesh, has there been anyone who ballwashed the people responsible for ruining his life more than Spencer does? It goes beyond contrarianism, he has this fucked up complex about power that he thinks is a big brained 4d chess Nietzschean take but really is nothing more than a cuckold fantasy. If the liberal order has made his name synonymous with raycis KKK nadzee, that in his eyes means that it's competent and powerful and therefore good. It's not about rehabilitating his image or courting the winning team for a piece of the pie. He's just been buckbroken.

 

[Adamska]

He can scream at the elites to take him back and posture their talking points all he wants, but he's going to forever be a speck they ignore and hate due to his big gay nazi LARP. Got kicked out of your group faggot.