Careercow Richard Stallman / rms - Dirty old communist hobo who eats his own footskin. HURD release: Never. Parrot sex: Imminent.

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They're mostly text editors, IDEs, and I guess the GNU calculator app mostly works.
This is a horrifically uninformed opinion. Webkit/Chromium, the underlying engine all modern browsers use (and which basically every phone app is just a wrapper of, including all of Discord) is FOSS. All of Linux is FOSS. A lot of shit is FOSS. A lot of corporate products utilize FOSS components. And they all utilize RMS's FSF licenses.
 
This is a horrifically uninformed opinion. Webkit/Chromium, the underlying engine all modern browsers use (and which basically every phone app is just a wrapper of, including all of Discord) is FOSS. All of Linux is FOSS. A lot of shit is FOSS. A lot of corporate products utilize FOSS components. And they all utilize RMS's FSF licenses.
That's a fair point. I forgot Mozilla Firefox is some great FOSS too.
 
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FOSS software runs and powers the internet. Concerns about privacy and proprietary lock-in are valid. RMS is right about a lot of stuff. He's also a disgusting goblin who's currently causing the entire open source community to descend into bitter infighting.

I kinda feel this thread will either pay off within a few weeks or wont go anywhere at all, depends on if he makes a stink about all of the (upcoming) resignations.
 
AFAIK Stallman's never touched a kid and is clearly actually crazy (and extremely intelligent), so as far as I'm concerned he's on par with Terry. I'd advocate changing the tag here to Schizocow to actually reflect his nature.
RMS isn't schizophrenic, he's a massive autist. His rants are so bizarre because he genuinely cannot relate to normies and he doesn't understand them.

Also his GNU tools are way less impressive than Temple OS. He wrote some useful shit but it isn't even in the same league as writing an entire OS and software suite from scratch.
 
RMS isn't schizophrenic, he's a massive autist. His rants are so bizarre because he genuinely cannot relate to normies and he doesn't understand them.

Also his GNU tools are way less impressive than Temple OS. He wrote some useful shit but it isn't even in the same league as writing an entire OS and software suite from scratch.
1. Schizocow generally applies to any cow where the content is the result of severe mental illness. Stallman's autism is really bad.
2. Organizing and founding the Free Software Foundation has legitimately contributed a hundred times more good to the world than TempleOS, and is Stallman's actual legacy.
 
Stallman is a massive sperg but the FSF deserves to burn without him. I fully endorse him taking it back over, as he's done a ton of good work, and the FSF exists entirely due to him amd the shit he's made. Laugh at his weird sex shit, as it's deserved, but his attempt to take back the FSF is a good thing and a fuck you to the type of people ruining technology these days
 
Also his GNU tools are way less impressive than Temple OS. He wrote some useful shit but it isn't even in the same league as writing an entire OS and software suite from scratch.
TempleOS is an extremely basic OS. As far as one-man hobby OS projects goes it's one of the least impressive ones.
Just compare it to something like MenuetOS.

Emacs is actually a way more complex and larger piece of software than TempleOS.
Not to mention that RMS is also the one who started GCC, an extremely important project that is competitive with the best commercial compilers.
 
Open source software serves as a guillotine for corrupt or stale pieces of software whose owners aren't wealthy enough to maintain systematic corruption. Where I've noticed that open source fails to beat proprietary are application that are typically niche, highly complex, require the most pristine quality and where pumping in tons of money increases profits massively.

The existence of open source software helps to eliminate mid-level tech by offering competent alternatives for hugely popular proprietary software. This further empowers big tech who can maintain their role on the top by catering to specific niches and trough corruption. E.g. in many countries all government facilities have windows PCs even when nothing is done with them what couldn't be done with linux. Big tech funds open source project partly to make it harder for mid sized companies to build up their enterprise and topple the kings.
 
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I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
 
They've got an open letter/petition calling for the removal of Richard Stallman and the removal of the entire board of the FSF:
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Payload paragraph:
We are calling for the removal of the entire Board of the Free Software Foundation. These are people who have enabled and empowered RMS for years. They demonstrate this again by permitting him to rejoin the FSF Board. It is time for RMS to step back from the free software, tech ethics, digital rights, and tech communities, for he cannot provide the leadership we need. We are also calling for Richard M. Stallman to be removed from all leadership positions, including the GNU Project.
2021-03-23

Richard M. Stallman, frequently known as RMS, has been a dangerous force in the free software community for a long time. He has shown himself to be misogynist, ableist, and transphobic, among other serious accusations of impropriety. These sorts of beliefs have no place in the free software, digital rights, and tech communities. With his recent reinstatement to the Board of Directors of the Free Software Foundation, we call for the entire Board of the FSF to step down and for RMS to be removed from all leadership positions.

We, the undersigned, believe in the necessity of digital autonomy and the powerful role user freedom plays in protecting our fundamental human rights. In order to realize the promise of everything software freedom makes possible, there must be radical change within the community. We believe in a present and a future where all technology empowers – not oppresses – people. We know that this is only possible in a world where technology is built to pay respect to our rights at its most foundational levels. While these ideas have been popularized in some form by Richard M. Stallman, he does not speak for us. We do not condone his actions and opinions. We do not acknowledge his leadership or the leadership of the Free Software Foundation as it stands today.

There has been enough tolerance of RMS’s repugnant ideas and behavior. We cannot continue to let one person ruin the meaning of our work. Our communities have no space for people like Richard M. Stallman, and we will not continue suffering his behavior, giving him a leadership role, or otherwise holding him and his hurtful and dangerous ideology as acceptable.

We are calling for the removal of the entire Board of the Free Software Foundation. These are people who have enabled and empowered RMS for years. They demonstrate this again by permitting him to rejoin the FSF Board. It is time for RMS to step back from the free software, tech ethics, digital rights, and tech communities, for he cannot provide the leadership we need. We are also calling for Richard M. Stallman to be removed from all leadership positions, including the GNU Project.

We urge those in a position to do so to stop supporting the Free Software Foundation. Refuse to contribute to projects related to the FSF and RMS. Do not speak at or attend FSF events, or events that welcome RMS and his brand of intolerance. We ask for contributors to free software projects to take a stand against bigotry and hate within their projects. While doing these things, tell these communities and the FSF why.

We have detailed several public incidents of RMS’s behavior. Some of us have our own stories about RMS and our interactions with him, things that are not captured in email threads or on video. We hope you will read what has been shared and consider the harm that he has done to our community and others.

To sign, please email digitalautonomy at riseup.net or submit a pull request.

Signed,
<1600+ (and counting) signatures snipped>

In the open letter they link to their appendix where they "detail several public incidents of RMS's behavior":
RMS has a history of mistreating women and making them feel uncomfortable, unsafe, and unwelcome. For incidents relating to RMS and MIT, please see: https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88.

RMS’s views on rape and child sex laws were publicly discussed in the Fall of 2019, when Selam G wrote about them.1 Especially chilling is when Stallman addresses the accusations that Marvin Minsky sexually assaulted one of Jeffrey Epstein’s trafficking victims (Virginia Giuffre) by saying “but the most plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as entirely willing.”2 RMS decries that this is not “sexual assault” because “‘assaulting’ presumes that he applied force or violence” while the report being discussed “says no such thing. Only that they had sex.”3 Rather than discussing this further, let’s instead focus on his personal web site, where he also shares his views on minors being “entirely willing.”4 (Note: While several news reports misrepresented Stallman’s position while discussing allegations against Minsky, Stallman has previously expressed opinions that were consistent with the inaccurate portrayal.)

He regularly and repeatedly makes comments about “the dishonest law that labels sex with adolescents as ‘rape’ even if they are willing.”5 He compares United States law to Sudanese law in saying that “US laws that define ‘rape’ to include voluntary sex with under N years of age (where N varies)” and that “both laws falsify the meaning of ‘rape.’”6

Of a woman having sex with a minor, he said “I wish an attractive woman had ‘abused’ me that way when I was 14.”7 He directly addressed child pornography by saying that “making such photos should be a crime, and is a crime, but that is no reason to prohibit possessing copies of the photos.”8 He defended pedophilia, in general, in saying that “there is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children.”9 Note: RMS apologized for this comment on 14 September, 2019.Citation. Edit made: 24 March, 2021 - 08:50 EDT.

In 2015 and 2016 RMS made three posts on his website about Down’s syndrome. He recommended that, should someone find out they are pregnant and the child tests positive for Down’s syndrome “the right course of action for the woman is to terminate the pregnancy.”10 He referred to people deciding to “carry fetuses with Down’s syndrome to term” as “perverse” and said that there is “nothing virtuous” in “[increasing] the number of people that have Down’s syndrome.”11 He also said that “when a fetus has Down’s syndrome, you should abort it and try again.”12 On at least one occasion RMS likened having a child with Down’s syndrome to having a pet.13

RMS has spent years on a campaign against using people’s correct pronouns. This is poorly disguised transphobia. In the original publication of the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines, he said “there are various ways to express gender neutrality in third-person singular pronouns in English; you do not have to use ‘they.’”14 This text has since been updated, but is still transphobic.15 The main page on his web site includes the statement that “‘They’ is plural — for singular antecedents, use singular gender-neutral pronouns.”16

Edit to add: While I'm browsing Twitter hot-takes, here's the video where RMS makes his announcement to return to the FSF:
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TempleOS is an extremely basic OS. As far as one-man hobby OS projects goes it's one of the least impressive ones.
Just compare it to something like MenuetOS.

Emacs is actually a way more complex and larger piece of software than TempleOS.
Not to mention that RMS is also the one who started GCC, an extremely important project that is competitive with the best commercial compilers.
People overpraise TempleOS because Terry would say nigger and had a pretty heavy handicap from schizophrenia. Treating TempleOS as anything but a virtual Art Brut installation is missing the plot.

Think of it like Justo Gallego Martinez's Cathedral or James Hampton's Throne.

also, holy shit, they actually included Terry in the "Outsider Art" wikipedia page!
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Open source software serves as a guillotine for corrupt or stale pieces of software whose owners aren't wealthy enough to maintain systematic corruption. Where I've noticed that open source fails to beat proprietary are are application that are typically niche, highly complex, require the most pristine quality and where pumping in tons of money increases profits massively.

The existence of open source software helps to eliminate mid-level tech by offering competent alternatives for hugely popular proprietary software. This further empowers big tech who can maintain their role on the top by catering to specific niches and trough corruption. E.g. in many countries all government facilities have windows PCs even when nothing is done with them what couldn't be done with linux. Big tech funds open source project partly to make it harder for mid sized companies to build up their enterprise and topple the kings.
>Open source software, something Big Tech has been trying to kill virtually since its inception, is actually a Big Tech weapon
You're smoking copium agonists, very impressive.
People overpraise TempleOS because Terry would say nigger and had a pretty heavy handicap from schizophrenia. Treating TempleOS as anything but a virtual Art Brut installation is missing the plot.

Think of it like Justo Gallego Martinez's Cathedral or James Hampton's Throne.

also, holy shit, they actually included Terry in the "Outsider Art" wikipedia page!
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Yeah, it's kind of depressing that a large part of Terry's following are people who don't care about his personal struggles or the bizarre, redirected potential that TempleOS represented at all and just think that he was a "redpilled genius saying the truth" or some shit.
 
>Open source software, something Big Tech has been trying to kill virtually since its inception, is actually a Big Tech weapon
You're smoking copium agonists, very impressive.
Open source is too complicated to kill. Ranchers like Bill Gates just herd the nigger cattle. People like Stallman are shepherds who lead their sheep astray.
 
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Stallman may be a commie with lack of hygiene and slightly off his rocker.

However I can say at the very least he has proven to stand for his beliefs, something that I cannot say for that faggot Torvalds or the retards that have co-opted the open source community.

I'm happy to hear he got his job back at the freedom software foundation, the hack that had taken his place seemed more concerned with driving "diversity" efforts than software.
 
Open source is too complicated to kill. Ranchers like Bill Gates just herd the nigger cattle. People like Stallman are shepherds who lead their sheep astray.
So what's your alternative, or are you just here to go "Good thing bad, you're bad to feel good, start feeling miserable!"
 
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Twitter hot-takes (#uninStallman)

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This guy's giving up his award because Parrot Man Bad:
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Oh no! No more Outreachy?! This is terrible.
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The Open Source Initiative is also calling for Stallman to go:
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(OSI_response / archive)

Bad Packets is pulling their FSF sponsorship:
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Matty here seems convinced that Stallman was still operating within the FSF behind the scenes:

The leader of the Debian project put out a blog post calling for Stallman's re-resignation and the resignation of everyone on the FSF board:
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One of the GnuPG guys with commit privileges is fucking off too, citing this Stallman/FSF thingo as his reason:
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Free Software Foundation Europe (a sister-organization of the FSF) is also not pleased with the news:
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I think you're right @Carver, this could be big. There's a lot of big names in FOSS throwing their (soy-filled) weight around over this. RMS is rattling a lot of cages looking for parrots probably.
 
I support Stallman as it makes the current troons in the FSF angry. There's also some genderspecial wording in some open source licenses now.

To be fair Stallman was absolutely right about open sores licenses, corporations took and monetized a bunch of originally open sores ideas and then closed the sores!!!
 
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