Rick and Morty Griefing Thread - Now With 300% More Incest!

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Are people allowed to enjoy anything these days? I just got back from the Cyberpunk thread after getting shit on and downvoted for saying I'm enjoying the DLC.

I like this forum but everyone is ultra obsessed with this irony poisoned cynicism where unless you're doing nothing but drinking/smoking weed, being depressed, and whining about troons you're some uncool consumerist dork.

It's getting retarded.
Criticism is better than blind praise, blind praise is how you end up with multiverse of madness. I'd rather err on the side of caution.
And that Harmon's already trying to either buy out his contract for the last 30 episodes season 8-10 would consist of or get Adult Swim to retool the show ala Mr Pickles and turn it into something else that would be covered by said contract for said remaining episodes.
Can you explain the mr pickles/30 episode contact theme? Seems like a pretty obvious deal, how could they legaly cheese it?
 
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Dan Harmon had an interview on The Hollywood Reporter, Rick and Morty was brought up among other things.

Significant portion of the article features talk about Justin Roiland as well:
Rick and Morty was supposed to be Harmon’s reward. He’d all but killed himself making Community, only to feel like he was constantly letting people down. Now, he had a partner in Adult Swim, the nighttime arm of the Cartoon Network, that actively wanted to be in business with him. In fact, executives there had courted him with the promise that they’d love him the way that NBC didn’t. And in the early days, working on Rick and Morty was blissful, or as blissful as any Dan Harmon production can be. It wasn’t until season two that everything started to change.

Let me back up here and tell you that Harmon has never seen Rick and Morty as his show. When Adult Swim first approached him, he figured he’d be six episodes and out unless he enlisted a subversive animator like Justin Roiland with big, crazy ideas. He had met Roiland through Channel 101, the experimental film festival that Harmon had founded in the early aughts, between co-creating Heat Vision and Jack and The Sarah Silverman Program. “It’s not that I’m bereft of ideas, but I wouldn’t know where to begin,” explains Harmon. “I’m a character person and a story person and an I-just-want-people-to-like-me person.”

It was Roiland who suggested that they revisit one of his zanier shorts, an off-color parody of Back to the Future’s Marty McFly and Doc Brown, which he’d drawn for Channel 101 back in 2006. Harmon loved the idea, and the two hired their 101 pals to work with them. Initially, there was some pushback from Adult Swim about Roiland voicing both leads — in this case, a narcissistic, alcoholic genius (Rick) and his bumbling grandson (Morty) — but the network ultimately caved and the series premiered to widespread critical praise in 2013. And though the pair shares a co-creator credit, Harmon has always been sensitive to Roiland’s contributions. After all, they were his voices and his characters, even if many of the show’s writers suggest they’ve modeled Rick after Harmon. (Not all of them, however. Heather Anne Campbell, who joined the show in 2020, says the two have diverged over time: “Rick may be very intelligent and caustically funny like Dan, but the character is a callous, terrified man and, at least in the time I’ve been working here, Dan is open and almost recursively self-aware.”)

What happened next still rattles Harmon, which is one of the reasons he’s never publicly addressed it until now. When the show scored its second season, Harmon was eager to staff up, filling out their ragtag cable team with Harvard-educated Community writers. If they were going to make a play for network primetime audiences, he reasoned, they’d need network primetime writers. “If I had felt like I was imposing something, I would have never done it,” he says, having played the whole thing back in his head countless times over the past decade. He can see now how Roiland must have felt that that transition was about making the show more Harmon’s than his, but he insists that was not his intent.

“If anything, what I wanted was for Justin and I both to be able to be increasingly lazy and not show up for work. That was the dream,” says Harmon. “We’d be these rich idea men. He could roll around and go, like, ‘What if a genie had a butt instead of a dick?’ And I could be like, ‘Yeah, and plus, we’re going to make people cry about it, and that’s going to make them freak out. It’s a story about a genie butt dick, but then we’d win an Emmy, and it’d be more ironic than ever.’ And then I’d come to find out later that it was like, ‘Oh, Harmon brought in his Harmon writers,’ and, man, that is not how I saw it.”

Roiland started to pull back during season two. By then, the room was working considerably longer hours, as Harmon obsessed over the show’s quality, and the environment was no longer as much fun. After the season wrapped, Roiland sat down with Harmon and acknowledged just how miserable he’d become working at the show. The implication, according to Harmon, was that it was his fault. “Honestly, I wasn’t sure what he was saying,” recalls Harmon, “other than, maybe, ‘I feel like I’m in your shadow and I wish I wasn’t.’ ”

Mike Lazzo, who was running Adult Swim out of Atlanta at the time, was aware of the growing tensions insomuch as he’d see signs when he came to visit. “Dan would be in the writers room and Justin would be running radio control cars around the studio,” says Lazzo, who gives Harmon the lion’s share of the credit for Rick and Morty’s success: “It’s so dependent on writing and character, and those are Dan’s strengths. I remember I’d get frustrated waiting on his scripts, but then they’d arrive and they would be masterpieces.”

At some point in season three, Roiland simply stopped showing up. A mediator was ultimately brought in, but the exercise went nowhere. “I always felt like Justin wanted everybody to make him feel more comfortable, and I was just like, ‘Everybody wants to make you comfortable, communicate, tell us how to do that,’ ” says Harmon, who acknowledges: “I was freaking out about the whole thing because I wanted the partnership to function. I wanted him happy because when he’s happy, we have a hit on our hands.”

As drama waged behind the scenes, the show’s ratings continued to soar. Rick and Morty had quickly become the most viewed comedy among millennials in all of television. It was easily the most watched series in Adult Swim’s history. After season three, the two even managed to put their differences aside long enough to secure an additional 70 episodes, which was more than double the amount that had already aired. “It was like Justin and I were in love again, because we were dealing with the powers that be and talking about how rich we might be if we negotiated together,” says Harmon. But the moment was short-lived.

The last time he and Roiland spoke was over text in 2019, a conversation that left Harmon in tears. “He said things that he’d never said before about being unhappy, and I remember saying to him the last time we spoke in person, like, ‘I am worried about you, and I don’t know what to do about that except to give you all the string and also just say I’m scared that you’re not going to come back.’ But then this conversation became unprecedentedly confrontational.” Harmon stops himself there. “I think that’s as far as I get to take the story. At that point, we’re no longer both there for it, and it starts to become not only unfair for me to continue but totally uncomfortable because, from there, a friendship goes away, and I still don’t fully understand why.”

The 70-episode deal proved transformative for the show and for Harmon, who used the opportunity to hire “a real showrunner” in Scott Marder. As Harmon explains it now, Marder brought a level of professionalism and structure to a production that sorely needed it, and it enabled him to relax his grip for the first time in his career. Rick and Morty writer Rob Schrab, whose friendship with Harmon dates back to their time on the Milwaukee comedy circuit, insists it was one of the smartest moves he’s made. “Dan is great as the person that’s going to sit on top of the mountain demanding quality, but the day-to-day management of the show needs to be done by somebody with a very special skill set,” says Schrab. “Honestly, I don’t think there’d still be a Rick and Morty if it weren’t for Scott Marder.”

The way that Rick and Morty is run now, Harmon believes it could mirror The Simpsons and continue for decades — though they’ve only aired 30 of the 70 episodes, and he’s been around the business long enough to know that nothing is promised. Adult Swim’s latest owner, Warner Bros., and its CEO, David Zaslav, whom Harmon has not yet met, could decide to pull the plug tomorrow. And in fact, there was a moment, earlier this year, when that felt plausible in a way that it never had before.

On Jan. 12, NBC News reported that Roiland had been charged with felony domestic violence in connection with a 2020 incident, which sent everyone involved with the show, many of whom have never actually met Roiland, into a tailspin. Roiland was later cleared of the charges due to insufficient evidence, but Adult Swim had already severed ties with him. When Rick and Morty returns for its seventh season Oct. 15, it will do so without Roiland’s voice. They’ve hired two young, unknown voice actors for the roles of Rick and Morty, a process that Harmon says he largely avoided, mostly out of denial. “It’s all just sad because the goal is for it to be indistinguishable,” he says, “at the same time, it would be absurd to suddenly decide that the entire foundation of your creative project was, oh, coincidentally, unimportant.”

But a few days after my time with Harmon, the same outlet published a new report featuring nine separate accounts of Roiland’s alleged misconduct, which range from sexual harassment to sexual assault. To lure these women, Roiland, who has denied the allegations, reportedly leveraged his affiliation with the show and its success on social media apps and on dating apps. When Harmon and I connect again, more than a week later, he’s read the piece and he can no longer stay quiet.

“The easiest thing for me to say about Justin has been nothing. Easy because he isolated so well and easy because I’m nobody’s first choice as a judge of anything or anyone. This is where I’d love to change the subject to myself, to what a piece of crap I’ve been my whole public life,” he says. “I would feel so safe and comfortable making this about me, but that trick is worthless here and dangerous to others. It’s other people’s safety and comfort that got damaged while I obsessed over a cartoon’s quality. Trust has now been violated between countless people and a show designed to please them. I’m frustrated, ashamed and heartbroken that a lot of hard work, joy and passion can be leveraged to exploit and harm strangers.”
Highlights include Rick apparently being modeled off of Harmon for some time, difficulties working with Roiland and the idea that the show could run forever like The Simpsons.
 
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The 70-episode deal proved transformative for the show and for Harmon, who used the opportunity to hire “a real showrunner” in Scott Marder. As Harmon explains it now, Marder brought a level of professionalism and structure to a production that sorely needed it, and it enabled him to relax his grip for the first time in his career. Rick and Morty writer Rob Schrab, whose friendship with Harmon dates back to their time on the Milwaukee comedy circuit, insists it was one of the smartest moves he’s made. “Dan is great as the person that’s going to sit on top of the mountain demanding quality, but the day-to-day management of the show needs to be done by somebody with a very special skill set,” says Schrab. “Honestly, I don’t think there’d still be a Rick and Morty if it weren’t for Scott Marder.”

This part is especially funny to me. Rick & Morty comes out, mostly headed by Justin Roiland, and (regardless of one's personal opinion of the show) it immediately becomes a big hit. Dan Harmon then brings his own friends into the production staff starting in season 3, wrestles control away from Roiland, and the quality immediately drops. Harmon's retrospective? "Fuck Justin. I was just trying to cooperate with him by replacing his writing staff, replacing his showrunner, and undercutting his creative ideas. How does he repay me? With accusations that I'm trying to steal the show out from under him! The gall of that goy. I don't think there'd be a Rick & Morty if it weren't for the literally who-bergs I hired three seasons into the show."
 
I don't think either Justin Roiland or Dan Harmon are good people, but it's becoming clearer to me every day that Roiland is the only reason Season 1 of Rick & Morty was funny at all, and Harmon and his "Harvard-educated Community writers" (Community is the opposite of funny) are responsible for the show getting stuck up its own ass.

So much of the content of Season 2 forward is metaplot-driven and made to be taken seriously, which gives me tonal whiplash when the show is otherwise an irreverent comedy. The people who write Rick & Morty now seem convinced that the main reason people are still watching is to be spoonfed bits of Rick's backstory. They mock empty sentimentality, but that's exactly what the "serious" moments come across as
 
Dan Harmon is a colossal faggot who crammed the writers room full of unfunny women and other diversity hires to get ahead of a looming cancellation. He's also completely convinced that just because he's an alcoholic wreck it must mean he's also a brilliant writer that can do no wrong (see repeatedly jerking himself off about his fucking story circle bs).

Roiland may be a degenerate fuck but at least he brought something unique to the table and losing him has killed of what little merit the show had left. Now it's gonna be nothing but stupid meta plot and Harmon and his gaggle of holes cramming in as much incest and other assorted fetishes as they are able to.
 
Highlights include Rick apparently being modeled off of Harmon for some time, difficulties working with Roiland and the idea that the show could run forever like The Simpsons.
Part of me wonders if this was all a power play made by Adult Swim and Harmon? It's not implausible even though by airing the dirty laundry they taint the brand but implausibility is ripe in Hollywood.
 
Part of me wonders if this was all a power play made by Adult Swim and Harmon? It's not implausible even though by airing the dirty laundry they taint the brand but implausibility is ripe in Hollywood.
More like Roiland vs Harmond.

Harmond wants fame and complete control, Roiland wants to own the property+creative control.
 
More like Roiland vs Harmond.

Harmond wants fame and complete control, Roiland wants to own the property+creative control.
Except Harmon is a shitty writer whose done some very deviant, questionable stuff. Roiland is pretty much the same, and everyone whose closely associated with Harmon are just as much scumbags as him
 
So much of the content of Season 2 forward is metaplot-driven and made to be taken seriously, which gives me tonal whiplash when the show is otherwise an irreverent comedy. The people who write Rick & Morty now seem convinced that the main reason people are still watching is to be spoonfed bits of Rick's backstory. They mock empty sentimentality, but that's exactly what the "serious" moments come across as
It's still baffling to me they retconned the fake backstory joke from season 3's opener into rick's real backstory. The entire fucking goofy prison break scene season 3 opens on now makes no fucking sense. The joke was initially something like "You thought i had this sad backstory where alternate timeline versions of me killed my kid and wife? Fucking idiot you feds have all personal info on me how do you not realize how fucking stupid that would be?" and now it's real which makes it fucking weird that it was even a surprise to the feds if that's rick's origin now.

This Harmon shit reminds me of the fact when Rick and Morty first came out and was a massive hit Press/interview shit kept phrasing shit like "RICK AND MORTY CREATOR DAN HARMON" and Justin as "Rick and morty Co-Creator Justin Roiland".
I guess we know why now.
 
It's still baffling to me they retconned the fake backstory joke from season 3's opener into rick's real backstory. The entire fucking goofy prison break scene season 3 opens on now makes no fucking sense. The joke was initially something like "You thought i had this sad backstory where alternate timeline versions of me killed my kid and wife? Fucking idiot you feds have all personal info on me how do you not realize how fucking stupid that would be?" and now it's real which makes it fucking weird that it was even a surprise to the feds if that's rick's origin now.

This Harmon shit reminds me of the fact when Rick and Morty first came out and was a massive hit Press/interview shit kept phrasing shit like "RICK AND MORTY CREATOR DAN HARMON" and Justin as "Rick and morty Co-Creator Justin Roiland".
I guess we know why now.
tbf, it was more like "it might be my backstory", which in fiction means it's 100% his backstory. Issue is that the show already played the idea of original family members dying/being left for dead so it just comes off as uninspired.
 
Yeahhh, that was bad. Mr. PB’s voice completely jolted me, but besides that, did we really need an entire episode devoted to this character? It was just fine when he showed up at the end of each season. There was nothing funny going on here, at all.
His whole initial joke when he first showed up is there were parasites that were messing with everyone's memory and people thought he was one, but it turned out he was actually along time family friend nobody mentioned beforehand and the encounters with him happened offscreen. When he got shot it was just him writhing on the ground in pain and going to physical therapy, that was the entire end to the setup for the punchine that was his existence. Everything after that was brief cameos to show how his life was going to hammer home how he's up to stuff we never see. He was never made to be a front and center kinda guy.
 
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Fucking Horrible. If you can't tell something is off with the voices you may be slow. And shocker...the jokes are even gayer than last year. Put this show out of it's misery.
Maybe because most people do not care that much about a manchild cartoon made for redditors and autists?
 
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Yeahhh, that was bad. Mr. PB’s voice completely jolted me, but besides that, did we really need an entire episode devoted to this character? It was just fine when he showed up at the end of each season. There was nothing funny going on here, at all.

Mr. Poopybutthole worked for that one episode with all the fake characters and the final shock of him actually being real. It was a great over-the-top and funny concept that it worked.

Constantly bringing him back only cheapens that original joke, which serves as a microcosm for what the show has become. It started off fresh, funny, and creative, and has devolved into a cynical and meaningless mess of a show.

Also, Smiling Friends > Rick and Morty. When is Season 2 of that coming?
 
Are people allowed to enjoy anything these days? I just got back from the Cyberpunk thread after getting shit on and downvoted for saying I'm enjoying the DLC.

I like this forum but everyone is ultra obsessed with this irony poisoned cynicism where unless you're doing nothing but drinking/smoking weed, being depressed, and whining about troons you're some uncool consumerist dork.

It's getting retarded.
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Are people allowed to enjoy anything these days? I just got back from the Cyberpunk thread after getting shit on and downvoted for saying I'm enjoying the DLC.

I like this forum but everyone is ultra obsessed with this irony poisoned cynicism where unless you're doing nothing but drinking/smoking weed, being depressed, and whining about troons you're some uncool consumerist dork.

It's getting retarded.
This place runs on hate and autism.
 
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Mr. Poopybutthole worked for that one episode with all the fake characters and the final shock of him actually being real. It was a great over-the-top and funny concept that it worked.

Constantly bringing him back only cheapens that original joke, which serves as a microcosm for what the show has become. It started off fresh, funny, and creative, and has devolved into a cynical and meaningless mess of a show.

Also, Smiling Friends > Rick and Morty. When is Season 2 of that coming?
Issue in Rick and Morty is that the writers have zero idea what to do with the cast, which necessitates them to keep bringing back one time wacky characters to create new plot threads.

Which ironically enough was the exact thing that episode was parodying.
 
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