RIP Internet Explorer

[Zero Day Defense]

It's a good thing I can still install the IE tab for the exactly one site whose plugin requires Internet Explorer to run.

I tried to install IE 11 a few days back, but the install wizard kept lying to me about it being installed while insisting I restart to finish installation-- which I did, multiple times.

Born to chrome forced to edge

Everything is chrome(ium) in the future!

 

[The Cunting Death]

I can't name of a browser that isn't based off of Firefox or Chromium anymore.

 

[Spasticus Autisticus]

This was already announced months ago I think. Edge is nothing but a Chrome-reskin. This is bad for everyone because the less browsers the are, the more Google has a monopoly to how the web has to look like. This could lead to things like adverts that are only very difficult to block.

It's a shame Microsoft abandoned the EdgeHTML engine. It seemed to have a lot of promise at the time it was rolled out, but Microsoft let it languish and didn't keep up with the advances in web standards. Now all we have is Webkit/Blink and Gecko. And with the way Mozilla is going I have doubts that Gecko will be around a whole lot longer.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I only used IE and Fire Fox years ago. I don't like Google so I refuse to use Chrome. So I just stick with Edge which is what I use most of the time and I have no issue with it. After that it's Fire Fox, Brave and Tor. I only used Tor for one forum anyway.

Edge is literally just a reskin of Chrome.

 

[Tacitus Kilgore]

Edge is literally just a reskin of Chrome.

But I don't have to put up with Google while using.

 

[Churros con Manteca]

RIP IE, now I can calmly continue to not provide support for your ever decreasing userbase.



Also do you recall when the bastard above gave you a very hard time?

 

[seri0us]

Well?

 

[I fucking love Cocaine]

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Looks like he finally won in the long run. But, was it really worth it? Wonder what he's going to do now.

Well, he delivered.

Nathan Lineback's opinion piece regarding the retirement of Internet Explorer.

6/14/2022
Microsoft is officially "retiring" Microsoft Internet Explorer.
What exactly does that mean? Not much really. Everyone knew this was coming the moment they pushed out Microsoft Edge. What this means is that after an "update", users of standard Windows 10 who try to launch the Internet Explorer application via the desktop icons will instead see a dialog that redirects them to Microsoft Edge. This does not affect Windows 11, which already omitted the Internet Explorer application icon.

But make no mistake, it is not completely gone. Its rotting guts will be in there for a long time yet. Edge's Internet Explorer mode, that uses the Internet Explorer rendering engine, will remain available. Other Windows applications that similarly embed Internet Explorer's rendering engine should continue to work for the time being.

Back in the IE 4 days, Microsoft was practically breaking developer's legs if they didn't embed IE in their applications or do something that required it. That legacy shit is everywhere, and if Microsoft just magically broke all compatibility with existing Windows applications, people might accidentally consider switching to an OS besides Windows.

I told everyone embedding IE was a bad idea, but nobody listened to me.

Also, the other day there was a news story that Microsoft apparently wants to prevent people from booting from regular magnetic hard drives, instead requiring everyone to use SSDs. There was some crap about Microsoft wanting to force OEMs to make systems with only SSDs. That is just beyond stupid. If having SSDs over magnetic hard drives was so much better that everyone was willing to PAY the extra money for them, then they would. No need for Microsoft to make more fake minimum requirements.

http://toastytech.com/evil/rants.html

 

[Kosher Dill]

I don't like Google so I refuse to use Chrome. So I just stick with Edge

I've got some bad news for you.

And with the way Mozilla is going I have doubts that Gecko will be around a whole lot longer.

Mozilla isn't going anywhere, because it's Google's fig leaf to pretend they're not a monopoly.

 

[Flabba Wabba Jabba]

Edge is literally just a reskin of Chrome.

Not exactly. They both use Chromium, which is open-source. But I would assume that Edge uses their own libraries for their specific purposes, and Chromium is an API for generic operations that all browsers need to perform.

 

[Flaming Dumpster]

I have a tweaker program called, and one of the options is to turn off prelaunching and it's still starts almost immediately:

WinAero Tweaker? All it's doing is flipping the registry key for this GPO.

As far as I can tell, that GPO is applicable to old Edge and not Edge Chromium as that version wasn't stable until 2020 and the GPO is 1809+.

You've got an SSD, right? Basically any browser should launch quickly though I wonder if Defender is ignoring Edge because it's Microsoft-signed and conveniently making everything else a little slower, especially if you've got a shit CPU.

I'd also be curious if WebView2 applications launching in the background on startup causes the Edge DLLs to be held in memory and give a faster startup time.

On my computer, Microsoft Edge has a startup entry, so that might be responsible too.

 

[Exceptional individualist]

Was ie always complete garbage it was there ever a time when it was on par with other software
Surely it was better than net scape?

 

[Ronnie McNutt]

say what you want about IE but atleast loading website on it didn't take up 6 gorillobytes of ram unlike modern web engines, it was also useful for testing old deprecated stuff like java applets and flash which modern browsers don't even want you to have an option to choose

 

[Pinochet Was Right]

It's a shame Microsoft abandoned the EdgeHTML engine. It seemed to have a lot of promise at the time it was rolled out, but Microsoft let it languish and didn't keep up with the advances in web standards. Now all we have is Webkit/Blink and Gecko. And with the way Mozilla is going I have doubts that Gecko will be around a whole lot longer.

It's like back then they were more concerned with Legacy Edge's UI, which was fantastic, but the rest of the experience was poor. Legacy Edge was a UWP app, something that never got properly implemented or felt finished after they gave up on Windows Phone, and it's not really "universal" if they are so poorly coded (damn pajeets) they completely crap out in a low end office workstation by just trying to LAUNCH. Not to mention they didn't do shit about Google sabotaging it by making YouTube run intentionally slow in it and forcing the video player to be tiny compared to Firefox or the Chromelikes.

 

[Aidan]

Well, he delivered.

Nathan Lineback's opinion piece regarding the retirement of Internet Explorer.

http://toastytech.com/evil/rants.html

This is a gold nugget, thanks!

I have an old busted up Heathkit Hero Robot. It used to belong to the high school I went to, they used it in their electronics class where the brain dead monkey fucks they had for students there tore it up

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I used IE for a while because it didn't have the same issues as Netscape, both would blue screen the computer with multiple windows open but in NT4 IE worked better. Rest in my old memories, both of you.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

I don't know why, but every other browser I've used takes forever to start.

Because they all have bloat (including trackers)

You need browsers that don't have bloat and start instantly, like Ungoogled Chromium and LibreWolf. Never had a waiting issue with any of them.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Because they all have bloat (including trackers)

You need browsers that don't have bloat and start instantly, like Ungoogled Chromium and LibreWolf. Never had a waiting issue with any of them.

I actually had no latency issue with Brave, it starts up quicker than Firefox which in itself starts quicker than Google Chrome (No needs to guess why). I'd recommend Brave or Waterfox if you want speed, but if you want to compile chromium each update you do you.

say what you want about IE but atleast loading website on it didn't take up 6 gorillobytes of ram unlike modern web engines, it was also useful for testing old deprecated stuff like java applets and flash which modern browsers don't even want you to have an option to choose

I think it's possible to reenable flash in the configuration settings on Chrome and Firefox. I understand the imperative to disable Flash, but to outright remove the option of using it at all without anyone's consent was really a dumb move that the tech giants are proud of.

Edge is literally just a reskin of Chrome.

Atleast IE is still there in spirit although it's now a Frankenstein monster.

Mozilla isn't going anywhere, because it's Google's fig leaf to pretend they're not a monopoly.

I think it's obvious to everyone out there that Google Chrome is a monopoly, they really don't need to pretend:



I've been thinking about this issue for a while now, but what if Microsoft just made Internet Explorer open source? I'd be glad they did that even if there are little benefits to it, people could actually make the browser more secure whilst also keeping the experience authentic to what Internet Explorer used to be (Instead of building Edge on top of it like Microsoft did).

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I've been thinking about this issue for a while now, but what if Microsoft just made Internet Explorer open source? I'd be glad they did that even if there are little benefits to it, people could actually make the browser more secure whilst also keeping the experience authentic to what Internet Explorer used to be (Instead of building Edge on top of it like Microsoft did).

The same question could be ask about the EdgeHTML engine as well. I wonder if some folks at Microsoft might be afraid then a Internet Explorer open source will be more successeful?

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

The same question could be ask about the EdgeHTML engine as well. I wonder if some folks at Microsoft might be afraid then a Internet Explorer open source will be more successeful?

I've been thinking about this issue for a while now, but what if Microsoft just made Internet Explorer open source? I'd be glad they did that even if there are little benefits to it, people could actually make the browser more secure whilst also keeping the experience authentic to what Internet Explorer used to be (Instead of building Edge on top of it like Microsoft did).

I'm reasonably certain this is the same reason why they're never ever going to release Win7's source code either.